From nirbhay.singh.tomar@ericsson.com Tue Apr 10 07:16:28 2012 Return-Path: X-Original-To: deja-dup-list@gnome.org Delivered-To: deja-dup-list@gnome.org Received: from localhost (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 79A307501E9 for ; Tue, 10 Apr 2012 07:16:28 +0000 (UTC) X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at gnome.org X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -4.123 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-4.123 tagged_above=-999 required=2 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_MED=-2.3, SPF_PASS=-0.001, TW_QO=0.077] autolearn=ham Received: from menubar.gnome.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (menubar.gnome.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id txZKjjzvCWwi for ; Tue, 10 Apr 2012 07:16:12 +0000 (UTC) X-Greylist: delayed 919 seconds by postgrey-1.32 at menubar.gnome.org; Tue, 10 Apr 2012 07:16:11 UTC Received: from mailgw2.ericsson.se (mailgw2.ericsson.se [193.180.251.37]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id AFC027501E7 for ; Tue, 10 Apr 2012 07:16:03 +0000 (UTC) X-AuditID: c1b4fb25-b7b18ae000000dce-a7-4f83da99cfeb Authentication-Results: mailgw2.ericsson.se x-tls.subject="/CN=esessmw0184"; auth=fail (cipher=AES128-SHA) Received: from esessmw0184.eemea.ericsson.se (Unknown_Domain [153.88.253.125]) (using TLS with cipher AES128-SHA (AES128-SHA/128 bits)) (Client CN "esessmw0184", Issuer "esessmw0184" (not verified)) by mailgw2.ericsson.se (Symantec Mail Security) with SMTP id A4.A5.03534.99AD38F4; Tue, 10 Apr 2012 09:00:41 +0200 (CEST) Received: from 1SFFVQ1.egi.ericsson.com (153.88.115.8) by esessmw0184.eemea.ericsson.se (153.88.115.82) with Microsoft SMTP Server id 8.3.213.0; Tue, 10 Apr 2012 09:00:40 +0200 Message-ID: <4F83DA97.30309@ericsson.com> Date: Tue, 10 Apr 2012 12:30:39 +0530 From: enirtom Organization: Ericsson India Global Services Pvt. Ltd User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux i686; rv:8.0) Gecko/20111110 Thunderbird/8.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: deja-dup-list@gnome.org Subject: Reg: Testing of Deja-dup as active backup client. Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="------------040307030100020806030909" X-Brightmail-Tracker: AAAAAA== X-BeenThere: deja-dup-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list Reply-To: nirbhay.singh.tomar@ericsson.com List-Id: "Dé jà Dup backup tool discussion" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 10 Apr 2012 07:16:28 -0000 --------------040307030100020806030909 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="ISO-8859-1"; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Hi All, I am want to use Deja-Dup as backup client but want to do some customization. Can some one help me out how i will do below thing :: 1. I want to have only ssh in backup location. 2. I want to have some fixed values into ssh configuration. 3. I want to have an option to delete the backups and currently how will i do it. 4.*Is it possible that it will show me the remaining space as i have qouta implementation in backup location. As i am implementing dejadup for a large user base. *quick reply will be appreciated. // Nirbhay Solution Integrator --------------040307030100020806030909 Content-Type: text/html; charset="ISO-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit

Hi All,

I am want to use Deja-Dup as backup client but want to do some customization. Can some one help me out how i will do below thing ::

1. I want to have only ssh in backup location.
2. I want to have some fixed values into ssh configuration.
3. I want to have an option to delete the backups and currently how will i do it.
4. Is it possible that it will show me the remaining space as i have qouta implementation in backup location. As i am implementing dejadup for a large user base.

quick reply will be appreciated.

// Nirbhay
Solution Integrator

--------------040307030100020806030909-- From michael.b.arthur@gmail.com Tue Apr 10 13:09:25 2012 Return-Path: X-Original-To: deja-dup-list@gnome.org Delivered-To: deja-dup-list@gnome.org Received: from localhost (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6ADA3750257 for ; Tue, 10 Apr 2012 13:09:25 +0000 (UTC) X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at gnome.org X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -2.522 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.522 tagged_above=-999 required=2 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, FREEMAIL_FROM=0.001, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_LOW=-0.7, SPF_PASS=-0.001, TW_QO=0.077, URIBL_DBL_REDIR=0.001] autolearn=ham Received: from menubar.gnome.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (menubar.gnome.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 44pVywrt21l5 for ; Tue, 10 Apr 2012 13:09:22 +0000 (UTC) Received: from mail-iy0-f182.google.com (mail-iy0-f182.google.com [209.85.210.182]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8A0EB7501F8 for ; Tue, 10 Apr 2012 13:09:14 +0000 (UTC) Received: by iahk25 with SMTP id k25so12047054iah.27 for ; Tue, 10 Apr 2012 06:09:12 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:sender:in-reply-to:references:date :x-google-sender-auth:message-id:subject:from:to:cc:content-type; bh=7CD+jmObNmVfMhNEqhYcuXNgV4H+2XH9tPcfzdCySSc=; b=pTbGtYIcDgS+Hi1AVRY7IKc0zcPafjtag0pwSEUNsts9K9WJChr+ZAYGyuJi6gu0t+ MmNdb+8eZ7mMkFsi3Rw4LjqLRp0zKgOE903JylgdRYw9cOWE5pF9L037ssXYiWbkpppR aJ7HB6lLK04w9EnL6XD1PPpI698Q6L5vpcUXo3hJp9irb/KeJt9ErChDGrr/bq9XURdE YuZ90qL6NJVkBSxZXFLMtuekAwwozQhvTRoqlMbBzLnlU/mn0WREogDP+S+0DiDFFSQT p4+GDlkas4A3kvY17o86sdDei+VKzT/eUAo8TYLdhjkAuva9m5e9eVW1wmvcQfnDHxoU djgA== MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.50.153.198 with SMTP id vi6mr2329644igb.0.1334063352819; Tue, 10 Apr 2012 06:09:12 -0700 (PDT) Sender: michael.b.arthur@gmail.com Received: by 10.50.100.198 with HTTP; Tue, 10 Apr 2012 06:09:12 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <4F83DA97.30309@ericsson.com> References: <4F83DA97.30309@ericsson.com> Date: Tue, 10 Apr 2012 09:09:12 -0400 X-Google-Sender-Auth: xfMlKx-VtOYR_rFSXTMjVRtUXIE Message-ID: Subject: Re: Reg: Testing of Deja-dup as active backup client. From: Michael Terry To: nirbhay.singh.tomar@ericsson.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Cc: deja-dup-list@gnome.org X-BeenThere: deja-dup-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: "Dé jà Dup backup tool discussion" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 10 Apr 2012 13:09:25 -0000 Hello Nirbhay! I'm going to assume a level of familiarity with GTK+ and Linux development in general. Though I assume you're not especially intimate with Vala, the programming language used in Deja Dup. First, here's a link for how to get setup for development on deja-dup and it has further links to learn more about Vala: http://live.gnome.org/DejaDup/GettingInvolved/Coding To answer your bullet points: 1) Edit widgets/ConfigLocation.vala and comment out the lines that add the non-SSH options. 2) Edit widgets/ConfigLocationSSH.vala and comment out the controls you don't want. Then for the values you want to hardcode, you can either edit the default values for SSH in data/org.gnome.DejaDup.gschema.xml.in or ship a gsettings override file (see "Vender overrides" in http://developer.gnome.org/gio/unstable/GSettings.html) 3) This is tricky. There is code in common/Duplicity.vala to delete all-but-X backup chains. So you could try telling it to delete all-but-zero. See delete_excess(). You might want to add a new OperationDelete class (see other Operation classes and modify one of them to fit your needs) and a new Operation.Mode.DELETE. You can then drive an OperationDelete object from the GUI layer. 4) There is existing code to detect remaining space. See common/BackendFile.vala and its get_space() method. You'd just need to add some display widget somewhere that uses that call. One problem is I'm not sure SSH quotas are reported. I think it just reports on the total free space of the disk. I'm not sure how to get at the quote going through GIO. Worth testing to confirm that it doesn't report quota like you want, but I'm not sure what you can do to get quota if it doesn't... -mt On 10 April 2012 03:00, enirtom wrote: > Hi All, > > I am want to use Deja-Dup as backup client but want to do some > customization. Can some one help me out how i will do below thing :: > > 1. I want to have only ssh in backup location. > 2. I want to have some fixed values into ssh configuration. > 3. I want to have an option to delete the backups and currently how will i > do it. > 4. Is it possible that it will show me the remaining space as i have qouta > implementation in backup location. As i am implementing dejadup for a large > user base. > > quick reply will be appreciated. > > // Nirbhay > Solution Integrator > > > _______________________________________________ > deja-dup-list mailing list > deja-dup-list@gnome.org > http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/deja-dup-list > From michael.b.arthur@gmail.com Mon Apr 16 00:13:51 2012 Return-Path: X-Original-To: deja-dup-list@gnome.org Delivered-To: deja-dup-list@gnome.org Received: from localhost (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C729375013F for ; Mon, 16 Apr 2012 00:13:51 +0000 (UTC) X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at gnome.org X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -2.6 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.6 tagged_above=-999 required=2 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, FREEMAIL_FROM=0.001, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_LOW=-0.7, SPF_PASS=-0.001] autolearn=ham Received: from menubar.gnome.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (menubar.gnome.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id zC-nswj0qSnx for ; Mon, 16 Apr 2012 00:13:37 +0000 (UTC) Received: from mail-iy0-f182.google.com (mail-iy0-f182.google.com [209.85.210.182]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4961175009D for ; Mon, 16 Apr 2012 00:13:28 +0000 (UTC) Received: by iahk25 with SMTP id k25so10839728iah.27 for ; Sun, 15 Apr 2012 17:13:26 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:sender:date:x-google-sender-auth:message-id:subject :from:to:content-type; bh=WhrJUc9y/PejTqZjGLO4aq8zi90f48vbhGv//1iKNII=; b=zTSvENE7WfELs/8fZyl16lIGw+Q/+zB0yYZFNwbakPPdp9HvsQgHOMpj4bB2hQiUdZ Y13JfWWNfZzWIT7JUiQyCxZeh2J78UKvtcZTp9TE/y55N741dj6i4/L+1akDWOEh0ANp n9Zp+Hf7AoPDY9m7DINr3Hvsrt83DYCV5nIe0OOzfCXq8VQCepieN1fANXiXu3qXTZd6 5bQ/cQomoPOkKnmvayy272sOtVzxHOgwXd7mHo85NKyJtOajdM1q8ohu9jwOAiimbBNH yfEkpMYhmhMa8lNn+fjkIvvr0mOVKl8v3IILVw/XCquhPVblkhjiOYCatHcBc7Hm3fHB B5lw== MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.43.56.196 with SMTP id wd4mr6165490icb.40.1334535206496; Sun, 15 Apr 2012 17:13:26 -0700 (PDT) Sender: michael.b.arthur@gmail.com Received: by 10.50.100.198 with HTTP; Sun, 15 Apr 2012 17:13:26 -0700 (PDT) Date: Sun, 15 Apr 2012 20:13:26 -0400 X-Google-Sender-Auth: zWtRSeHvLEefbpj8ULOhkS7fnYQ Message-ID: Subject: Design: Backup Schedule From: Michael Terry To: deja-dup-list@gnome.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 X-BeenThere: deja-dup-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: "Dé jà Dup backup tool discussion" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 16 Apr 2012 00:13:52 -0000 Does anyone have any thoughts on whether to allow setting the backup schedule? Currently Deja Dup allows the user to specify a number of days between backups (UI shows settings like "daily", "weekly", "monthly"). I'm wondering if we shouldn't just drop the preference altogether and always use "daily" backups. My reasons being: why would a (target audience) user particularly care how often the backup happens? They just want their data to be backed up. This would be one less preference and would let us make more optimizations in future, like instantaneous backups or some such. If this happened, I might want to make each backup less "noisy" then (less notifications about successful, normal operation backups). -mt From dylanmccall@gmail.com Mon Apr 16 01:00:23 2012 Return-Path: X-Original-To: deja-dup-list@gnome.org Delivered-To: deja-dup-list@gnome.org Received: from localhost (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 08D0A7500D3 for ; Mon, 16 Apr 2012 01:00:23 +0000 (UTC) X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at gnome.org X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -2.7 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.7 tagged_above=-999 required=2 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, FREEMAIL_FROM=0.001, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_LOW=-0.7, SPF_PASS=-0.001] autolearn=ham Received: from menubar.gnome.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (menubar.gnome.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id YjcvXB4aFVId for ; Mon, 16 Apr 2012 01:00:20 +0000 (UTC) Received: from mail-pz0-f42.google.com (mail-pz0-f42.google.com [209.85.210.42]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 717C475009D for ; Mon, 16 Apr 2012 01:00:12 +0000 (UTC) Received: by dang27 with SMTP id g27so7844135dan.29 for ; Sun, 15 Apr 2012 18:00:10 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:from:date:message-id:subject:to :cc:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=eaOS4NCWrnFnQMnaDkyG5P2LdJaJF4NkFBeAPn0SoqY=; b=lNFeORgqHWDwegVJqrOfzmIdJU8gTMEH7uYLsp5O/tvfpn0ETZUaLQ1ahH3lZRQUn3 HdiWLp8XU6+twKuoiT3MM6FAgHW4MvxkyXxG5JzIW5iMLl1H4RJxXU5qIkNAs3/uReAk mO8NYWnzVcLcmPUr3a7iETo6a+cA8KD416Sp/5PfVtICQL7a+h60kyFRel9NuGRY+9r8 52SCzfAJnokzN3TI+wxx/5Jh541Yw9Q7F4YMpG3bZRzzvSmUvPXbPLzuggPF/1qqoHBd 7wkjh9J5S+ikHXvnc+8+6YyBqRQGjp5Qve2Y907sfOLSbnHCO0pJKtH70H17SpPzpXoE DFPg== Received: by 10.68.202.163 with SMTP id kj3mr23304406pbc.165.1334538010675; Sun, 15 Apr 2012 18:00:10 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.142.106.2 with HTTP; Sun, 15 Apr 2012 17:59:40 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: References: From: Dylan McCall Date: Sun, 15 Apr 2012 17:59:40 -0700 Message-ID: Subject: Re: Design: Backup Schedule To: Michael Terry Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Cc: deja-dup-list@gnome.org X-BeenThere: deja-dup-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: "Dé jà Dup backup tool discussion" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 16 Apr 2012 01:00:23 -0000 On Sun, Apr 15, 2012 at 5:13 PM, Michael Terry wrote: > Does anyone have any thoughts on whether to allow setting the backup sche= dule? > > Currently Deja Dup allows the user to specify a number of days between > backups (UI shows settings like "daily", "weekly", "monthly"). > > I'm wondering if we shouldn't just drop the preference altogether and > always use "daily" backups. > > My reasons being: why would a (target audience) user particularly care > how often the backup happens? =A0They just want their data to be backed > up. =A0This would be one less preference and would let us make more > optimizations in future, like instantaneous backups or some such. > > If this happened, I might want to make each backup less "noisy" then > (less notifications about successful, normal operation backups). > > -mt So, in my case I do my backups to an external hard drive that is usually turned off (because it doesn't have anything immediately useful on it, except backups). Deja Dup pops up once a week asking me to please connect my backup hard drive so it can run a backup. If that was happening daily, it would be rather annoying, but I do agree with your point that daily backups would be reasonably fast and, if it's done well, much less obtrusive. (Not to mention the lowered chance of data loss!). I think my ideal arrangement would be if Deja Dup does a quiet daily backup, with a simple notification that it's happening, but only when it's possible =97 when connected to the Internet, with the backup media attached. Then, there could be a louder backup (like it does today) at a wider interval like every two weeks. That louder backup would ask for the backup media to be attached and it would communicate a little more actively that it's doing stuff. The louder backups would have a slightly better chance of actually happening. With the quieter backups, the user might log out before the backup can finish. Something along those lines would also give you somewhere to present the occasional full backups that happen: the daily backups can be reserved for quick, incremental updates while the loud backups can get away with heavier maintenance tasks. Dylan From michael.b.arthur@gmail.com Mon Apr 16 18:27:28 2012 Return-Path: X-Original-To: deja-dup-list@gnome.org Delivered-To: deja-dup-list@gnome.org Received: from localhost (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2622A7502F5 for ; Mon, 16 Apr 2012 18:27:28 +0000 (UTC) X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at gnome.org X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -2.6 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.6 tagged_above=-999 required=2 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, FREEMAIL_FROM=0.001, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_LOW=-0.7, SPF_PASS=-0.001] autolearn=ham Received: from menubar.gnome.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (menubar.gnome.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id Q1iTsHMAnD5j for ; Mon, 16 Apr 2012 18:27:26 +0000 (UTC) Received: from mail-gy0-f182.google.com (mail-gy0-f182.google.com [209.85.160.182]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 68C0E7500A3 for ; Mon, 16 Apr 2012 18:27:17 +0000 (UTC) Received: by ghrr20 with SMTP id r20so3831463ghr.27 for ; Mon, 16 Apr 2012 11:27:16 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:sender:in-reply-to:references:date :x-google-sender-auth:message-id:subject:from:to:cc:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; bh=2QWpXaZJb/JxScg1N5C8iFqi+dTlkCcx6uTWyF+M7E8=; b=T+zBxZ2UMxk9TGxl0j0ywkiduRRidqie18AjIXtOLgAPWnujdthDhjnz/xXwnl1vkJ bo4AP1JstzKO2Z2TEQg73kLyjJfzS7Fh8ewcVkJjQkmlZ22Edl616/0cghhbOaSpTsPb rJjcZiey4B2AidQ+H/SuIA3xo56AZtJy5mhUBmsTQLoTXICX9/UPP+iqvFmLFYE6N+4i 7Dfu5Eo4JlQUsquC41sTrm/AzeOdjPTxvgLrLCMJXV10vV7s21Cud5UovTAouj5CeVrW YMyhR7/Dx2Q0KNtosWJzZiP0gw1nhLXq0tD82ETK3/qdOeyWEsMwlwhXnaRGnqOIDQZB IQiA== MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.50.47.162 with SMTP id e2mr6978161ign.0.1334600836360; Mon, 16 Apr 2012 11:27:16 -0700 (PDT) Sender: michael.b.arthur@gmail.com Received: by 10.50.100.198 with HTTP; Mon, 16 Apr 2012 11:27:16 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <4F8C60BB.5070704@gmail.com> References: <4F8C60BB.5070704@gmail.com> Date: Mon, 16 Apr 2012 14:27:16 -0400 X-Google-Sender-Auth: 4w03nz5c8n0Ji_jHHv8574eByEg Message-ID: Subject: Re: Design: Backup Schedule From: Michael Terry To: =?UTF-8?Q?Damien_Courouss=C3=A9?= Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Cc: deja-dup-list@gnome.org X-BeenThere: deja-dup-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: "Dé jà Dup backup tool discussion" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 16 Apr 2012 18:27:28 -0000 On 16 April 2012 14:11, Damien Courouss=C3=A9 = wrote: > The "daily" option suits very well my needs, but I would like to be able > to postpone a little bit the backup, for example for 15 minutes. > Here is the explanation : I have to setup a VPN connection and my > backups are done on a remote storage server accessible via VPN. > Currently, Deja Dup starts as soon as the session is opened This is a bit of a tangent to the question of daily scheduling, but have you tried 22.0 yet? It has code that tests if the server name is reachable, which should help with VPN setups. -mt From damien.courousse@free.fr Mon Apr 16 18:43:41 2012 Return-Path: X-Original-To: deja-dup-list@gnome.org Delivered-To: deja-dup-list@gnome.org Received: from localhost (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2944D750070 for ; Mon, 16 Apr 2012 18:43:41 +0000 (UTC) X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at gnome.org X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -1.899 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.899 tagged_above=-999 required=2 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, FREEMAIL_FROM=0.001, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE=-0.0001] autolearn=ham Received: from menubar.gnome.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (menubar.gnome.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id QuuwZR3y9czB for ; Mon, 16 Apr 2012 18:43:38 +0000 (UTC) Received: from smtp5-g21.free.fr (smtp5-g21.free.fr [212.27.42.5]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id EC269750391 for ; Mon, 16 Apr 2012 18:43:36 +0000 (UTC) Received: from [192.168.0.2] (unknown [78.249.57.166]) by smtp5-g21.free.fr (Postfix) with ESMTP id 17B55D4801A; Mon, 16 Apr 2012 20:43:28 +0200 (CEST) Message-ID: <4F8C684F.8010004@free.fr> Date: Mon, 16 Apr 2012 20:43:27 +0200 From: =?UTF-8?B?RGFtaWVuIENvdXJvdXNzw6k=?= User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux i686; rv:10.0.3) Gecko/20120329 Icedove/10.0.3 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Michael Terry Subject: Re: Design: Backup Schedule References: <4F8C60BB.5070704@gmail.com> In-Reply-To: X-Enigmail-Version: 1.4 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Cc: deja-dup-list@gnome.org, =?UTF-8?B?RGFtaWVuIENvdXJvdXNzw6k=?= X-BeenThere: deja-dup-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: "Dé jà Dup backup tool discussion" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 16 Apr 2012 18:43:41 -0000 On 16/04/2012 20:27, Michael Terry wrote: > On 16 April 2012 14:11, Damien Couroussé wrote: >> The "daily" option suits very well my needs, but I would like to be able >> to postpone a little bit the backup, for example for 15 minutes. >> Here is the explanation : I have to setup a VPN connection and my >> backups are done on a remote storage server accessible via VPN. >> Currently, Deja Dup starts as soon as the session is opened > This is a bit of a tangent to the question of daily scheduling, but > have you tried 22.0 yet? It has code that tests if the server name is > reachable, which should help with VPN setups. > Hello Michael, No, I did not yet try this version. I will have a look if possible (I am running Debian almost fully stable). thanks, Damien From damien.courousse@gmail.com Mon Apr 16 18:43:52 2012 Return-Path: X-Original-To: deja-dup-list@gnome.org Delivered-To: deja-dup-list@gnome.org Received: from localhost (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4312B7500A3 for ; Mon, 16 Apr 2012 18:43:52 +0000 (UTC) X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at gnome.org X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -2.7 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.7 tagged_above=-999 required=2 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, FREEMAIL_FROM=0.001, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_LOW=-0.7, SPF_PASS=-0.001] autolearn=ham Received: from menubar.gnome.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (menubar.gnome.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id goEkAvMBMOgx for ; Mon, 16 Apr 2012 18:43:50 +0000 (UTC) Received: from mail-ee0-f54.google.com (mail-ee0-f54.google.com [74.125.83.54]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 17808750070 for ; Mon, 16 Apr 2012 18:43:41 +0000 (UTC) Received: by eekd17 with SMTP id d17so1714461eek.27 for ; Mon, 16 Apr 2012 11:43:39 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=message-id:date:from:user-agent:mime-version:to:cc:subject :references:in-reply-to:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=PPsKm9qXoNk2EmwCHwivb15mDLvtzkNIsTMt2u1qmqw=; b=bnk8QwcefYQMhVYg5CS0HeCOgcyfS5bm9cj/DNnBQ4Avwk4CX31vUtIjBQ5VxUpCCS gBOU2xsftud61DNuJClMiZbj+1rv0KP1Tyugr9/xajjLFKTHeHCZ7SwIGjOgHDnX85Pe yq48vnBQ1F+5OVNRrwgI5J9flTZo6bebz9ZzBAZ+/ooTZvB2M3J5C4JhdQ3ZJLmskeop GwuyhnDnNyRsWRgS46Kkhkdgn6ELNSx1e0FORpAOQuLwI927usZVMjkq3U5fULgnC5k2 L2SCcSjve/dya+QdjsUQWPeZxOafcw9XKCDvCyQU0I8BmwiFHBW1imnOOnYUroIHHlmU /jQg== Received: by 10.14.99.129 with SMTP id x1mr1806807eef.1.1334601819834; Mon, 16 Apr 2012 11:43:39 -0700 (PDT) Received: from [192.168.0.2] (dra38-9-78-249-57-166.fbx.proxad.net. [78.249.57.166]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id n55sm90754038eef.6.2012.04.16.11.43.38 (version=SSLv3 cipher=OTHER); Mon, 16 Apr 2012 11:43:39 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <4F8C6859.3050002@gmail.com> Date: Mon, 16 Apr 2012 20:43:37 +0200 From: =?UTF-8?B?RGFtaWVuIENvdXJvdXNzw6k=?= User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux i686; rv:10.0.3) Gecko/20120329 Icedove/10.0.3 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Michael Terry Subject: Re: Design: Backup Schedule References: <4F8C60BB.5070704@gmail.com> In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Cc: deja-dup-list@gnome.org, =?UTF-8?B?RGFtaWVuIENvdXJvdXNzw6k=?= X-BeenThere: deja-dup-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: "Dé jà Dup backup tool discussion" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 16 Apr 2012 18:43:52 -0000 On 16/04/2012 20:27, Michael Terry wrote: > On 16 April 2012 14:11, Damien Couroussé wrote: >> The "daily" option suits very well my needs, but I would like to be able >> to postpone a little bit the backup, for example for 15 minutes. >> Here is the explanation : I have to setup a VPN connection and my >> backups are done on a remote storage server accessible via VPN. >> Currently, Deja Dup starts as soon as the session is opened > This is a bit of a tangent to the question of daily scheduling, but > have you tried 22.0 yet? It has code that tests if the server name is > reachable, which should help with VPN setups. > Hello Michael, No, I did not yet try this version. I will have a look if possible (I am running Debian almost fully stable). thanks, Damien From kissaj@muohio.edu Thu Apr 26 10:51:54 2012 Return-Path: X-Original-To: deja-dup-list@gnome.org Delivered-To: deja-dup-list@gnome.org Received: from localhost (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C3647750279 for ; Thu, 26 Apr 2012 10:51:54 +0000 (UTC) X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at gnome.org X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -4.21 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-4.21 tagged_above=-999 required=2 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_MED=-2.3, T_RP_MATCHES_RCVD=-0.01] autolearn=ham Received: from menubar.gnome.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (menubar.gnome.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id xrRi246IlTlq for ; Thu, 26 Apr 2012 10:51:41 +0000 (UTC) X-Greylist: delayed 1096 seconds by postgrey-1.32 at menubar.gnome.org; Thu, 26 Apr 2012 10:51:41 UTC Received: from mualmarp02.mcs.muohio.edu (mualmarp02.mcs.muohio.edu [134.53.6.74]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id AAB91750278 for ; Thu, 26 Apr 2012 10:51:33 +0000 (UTC) Received: from mualmafp02.mcs.muohio.edu (mualmafp02.mcs.muohio.edu [134.53.6.6]) by mualmarp02.mcs.muohio.edu (8.13.8/8.13.8) with ESMTP id q3QAXFvk006141 for ; Thu, 26 Apr 2012 06:33:15 -0400 Received: from [192.168.2.106] (cpe-69-133-99-148.woh.res.rr.com [69.133.99.148]) (authenticated bits=0) by mualmafp02.mcs.muohio.edu (8.13.8/8.13.8) with ESMTP id q3QAXDcX006803 for ; Thu, 26 Apr 2012 06:33:14 -0400 Subject: Daily backups From: Andor J Kiss To: "deja-dup-list@gnome.org" Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Organization: AROK Date: Thu, 26 Apr 2012 06:33:12 -0400 Message-ID: <1335436392.3546.70.camel@methy1> Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Evolution 2.30.3 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-BeenThere: deja-dup-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list Reply-To: kissaj@muohio.edu List-Id: "Dé jà Dup backup tool discussion" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 26 Apr 2012 10:51:55 -0000 Hi Michael, My only beef with dailies is that about once a week, I get the "need to make a fresh back-up" and that takes up to six hours and ties up a the CPUs for a lot of stuff, or at least slows the machine down. - Andor From kissaj@muohio.edu Thu Apr 26 12:35:12 2012 Return-Path: X-Original-To: deja-dup-list@gnome.org Delivered-To: deja-dup-list@gnome.org Received: from localhost (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0015C75011C for ; Thu, 26 Apr 2012 12:35:11 +0000 (UTC) X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at gnome.org X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -4.209 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-4.209 tagged_above=-999 required=2 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_MED=-2.3, T_RP_MATCHES_RCVD=-0.01] autolearn=ham Received: from menubar.gnome.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (menubar.gnome.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id gNde3+ieKC6J for ; Thu, 26 Apr 2012 12:35:09 +0000 (UTC) Received: from mualmarp01.mcs.muohio.edu (mualmarp01.mcs.muohio.edu [134.53.6.73]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BA0F7750102 for ; Thu, 26 Apr 2012 12:35:01 +0000 (UTC) Received: from mualmafp01.mcs.muohio.edu (mualmafp01.mcs.muohio.edu [134.53.6.9]) by mualmarp01.mcs.muohio.edu (8.13.8/8.13.8) with ESMTP id q3QCYwNY024542; Thu, 26 Apr 2012 08:34:58 -0400 Received: from [10.34.229.160] ([10.34.229.160]) (authenticated bits=0) by mualmafp01.mcs.muohio.edu (8.13.8/8.13.8) with ESMTP id q3QCYvwv008250; Thu, 26 Apr 2012 08:34:57 -0400 Subject: Re: Daily backups From: Andor J Kiss To: Michael Terry In-Reply-To: References: <1335436392.3546.70.camel@methy1> Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="=-J/EhTf/lTqjRO0h71ZWv" Organization: AROK Date: Thu, 26 Apr 2012 08:34:56 -0400 Message-ID: <1335443696.3746.1.camel@methy1> Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Evolution 2.30.3 Cc: "deja-dup-list@gnome.org" X-BeenThere: deja-dup-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list Reply-To: kissaj@muohio.edu List-Id: "Dé jà Dup backup tool discussion" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 26 Apr 2012 12:35:12 -0000 --=-J/EhTf/lTqjRO0h71ZWv Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Hi Michael, That would be the perfect solution - then I'd be all for dailies. Regards, AJK On Thu, 2012-04-26 at 07:00 -0400, Michael Terry wrote: > I think part of a change to daily backups would be increasing the time > between full backups in that case. > > It would simplify "do I make a full backup?" logic quite a bit, to > know that daily backups are the only kind. Currently, it takes the > schedule into account. > > -mt > > On Apr 26, 2012 6:51 AM, "Andor J Kiss" wrote: > > Hi Michael, > > My only beef with dailies is that about once a week, I get > the "need > to make a fresh back-up" and that takes up to six hours and > ties up a > the CPUs for a lot of stuff, or at least slows the machine > down. > > - Andor > > _______________________________________________ > deja-dup-list mailing list > deja-dup-list@gnome.org > http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/deja-dup-list --=-J/EhTf/lTqjRO0h71ZWv Content-Type: text/html; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Hi Michael,

That would be the perfect solution - then I'd be all for dailies.

Regards,
AJK

On Thu, 2012-04-26 at 07:00 -0400, Michael Terry wrote:

I think part of a change to daily backups would be increasing the time between full backups in that case.

It would simplify "do I make a full backup?" logic quite a bit, to know that daily backups are the only kind. Currently, it takes the schedule into account.

-mt

On Apr 26, 2012 6:51 AM, "Andor J Kiss" <kissaj@muohio.edu> wrote:

Hi Michael,

My only beef with dailies is that about once a week, I get the "need
to make a fresh back-up" and that takes up to six hours and ties up a
the CPUs for a lot of stuff, or at least slows the machine down.

- Andor

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--=-J/EhTf/lTqjRO0h71ZWv-- From michael.b.arthur@gmail.com Thu Apr 26 11:00:44 2012 Return-Path: X-Original-To: deja-dup-list@gnome.org Delivered-To: deja-dup-list@gnome.org Received: from localhost (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4C9DA75020F for ; Thu, 26 Apr 2012 11:00:44 +0000 (UTC) X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at gnome.org X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -2.699 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.699 tagged_above=-999 required=2 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, FREEMAIL_FROM=0.001, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_LOW=-0.7, SPF_PASS=-0.001] autolearn=ham Received: from menubar.gnome.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (menubar.gnome.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 68VXZwiKccjY for ; Thu, 26 Apr 2012 11:00:37 +0000 (UTC) Received: from mail-iy0-f182.google.com (mail-iy0-f182.google.com [209.85.210.182]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BB5D17500F7 for ; Thu, 26 Apr 2012 11:00:29 +0000 (UTC) Received: by iahk25 with SMTP id k25so2421884iah.27 for ; Thu, 26 Apr 2012 04:00:28 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :cc:content-type; bh=VkvRXjS10mRCuUpRF3xhfIg1gR+v7kPVcyTpx8ZYZDY=; b=Hi9zEVr1ijqL3UNrZNmKLBRJCWWrSSrffk33lLiE4YRhnmyttwb7lx7EAnLMlWtbLG yCHfJwrW94eBiODKsMypjgrBLgdQNNeh91wrxjYxo0vkRIMJNOyjRdA7Y5Nv4CWRhPka XnI9irCXEIgvnqkkvmWwjSmVtYj8AO1W0jogwKeSQ556fFXY/A7JpA3rf5N4OGdlvcfV DUGmJ64oyYXo7x4AUkAZYiu4+1yrBqHG2JMFzf1F0U3nDxS0aNaBwOsP6Uq+zQH06MJg bv35+JGy2ftm35eEyDXIGg10YCuyZfuE6jMOxMvMLKH3ObECTvd9IShTvRfGRdy5ox/J XOTA== MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.50.222.202 with SMTP id qo10mr18051739igc.0.1335438028059; Thu, 26 Apr 2012 04:00:28 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.50.100.198 with HTTP; Thu, 26 Apr 2012 04:00:28 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.50.100.198 with HTTP; Thu, 26 Apr 2012 04:00:28 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <1335436392.3546.70.camel@methy1> References: <1335436392.3546.70.camel@methy1> Date: Thu, 26 Apr 2012 07:00:28 -0400 Message-ID: Subject: Re: Daily backups From: Michael Terry To: kissaj@muohio.edu Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=14dae934112b4834db04be92e523 X-Mailman-Approved-At: Fri, 27 Apr 2012 13:01:27 +0000 Cc: "deja-dup-list@gnome.org" X-BeenThere: deja-dup-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: "Dé jà Dup backup tool discussion" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 26 Apr 2012 11:00:44 -0000 --14dae934112b4834db04be92e523 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 I think part of a change to daily backups would be increasing the time between full backups in that case. It would simplify "do I make a full backup?" logic quite a bit, to know that daily backups are the only kind. Currently, it takes the schedule into account. -mt On Apr 26, 2012 6:51 AM, "Andor J Kiss" wrote: > Hi Michael, > > My only beef with dailies is that about once a week, I get the "need > to make a fresh back-up" and that takes up to six hours and ties up a > the CPUs for a lot of stuff, or at least slows the machine down. > > - Andor > > _______________________________________________ > deja-dup-list mailing list > deja-dup-list@gnome.org > http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/deja-dup-list > --14dae934112b4834db04be92e523 Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

I think part of a change to daily backups would be increasing the time b= etween full backups in that case.

It would simplify "do I make a full backup?" logic quite a bit= , to know that daily backups are the only kind.=C2=A0 Currently, it takes t= he schedule into account.

-mt

On Apr 26, 2012 6:51 AM, "Andor J Kiss"= ; <kissaj@muohio.edu> wrote:=

Hi Michael,

=C2=A0 =C2=A0My only beef with dailies is that about once a week, I get th= e "need
to make a fresh back-up" and that takes up to six hours and ties up a<= br> the CPUs for a lot of stuff, or at least slows the machine down.

- Andor

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