From Karen.Watson@dfw.wa.gov Fri Jan 1 00:06:25 2010 Return-Path: X-Original-To: dia-list@gnome.org Delivered-To: dia-list@gnome.org Received: from localhost (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B1D9D75010E for ; Fri, 1 Jan 2010 00:06:25 +0000 (GMT) X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at gnome.org X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -2.999 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.999 tagged_above=-999 required=2 tests=[BAYES_60=1, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_MED=-4] autolearn=ham Received: from menubar.gnome.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (menubar.gnome.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id Y6yQ0VRppQMD for ; Fri, 1 Jan 2010 00:06:19 +0000 (GMT) Received: from ssvmxgateway.ssv.wa.gov (ssvmxgateway.ssv.wa.gov [198.238.211.80]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 51D1B750108 for ; Fri, 1 Jan 2010 00:06:10 +0000 (GMT) X-TM-IMSS-Message-ID: <3b3b4760000ce9cb@ssvmxgateway.ssv.wa.gov> Received: from ssvmxolydfw01.ssv.wa.lcl ([198.238.211.85]) by ssvmxgateway.ssv.wa.gov ([198.238.211.80]) with ESMTP (TREND IMSS SMTP Service 7.0) id 3b3b4760000ce9cb ; Thu, 31 Dec 2009 16:06:09 -0800 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft Exchange V6.5 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----_=_NextPart_001_01CA8A76.386670C8" x-cr-puzzleid: {D3BFBC1C-46C2-400D-AEBA-A3C625CBDD90} Content-class: urn:content-classes:message Subject: Dia. diagrams and ERwin x-cr-hashedpuzzle: BIVo CovL C1/B C73c DBkq DZv/ D2gQ E7h/ Foie GEhG HfLd H9fW KEdV K9DN LVhi LuLe; 1; ZABpAGEALQBsAGkAcwB0AEAAZwBuAG8AbQBlAC4AbwByAGcA; Sosha1_v1; 7; {D3BFBC1C-46C2-400D-AEBA-A3C625CBDD90}; awBhAHIAZQBuAC4AdwBhAHQAcwBvAG4AQABkAGYAdwAuAHcAYQAuAGcAbwB2AA==; Fri, 01 Jan 2010 00:06:06 GMT; RABpAGEALgAgAGQAaQBhAGcAcgBhAG0AcwAgAGEAbgBkACAARQBSAHcAaQBuAA== Date: Thu, 31 Dec 2009 16:06:06 -0800 Message-ID: <63C508381E090A4083A86984CE8AA4031022D3@ssvmxolydfw01.ssv.wa.lcl> X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: Thread-Topic: Dia. diagrams and ERwin Thread-Index: AcqKdjaSgAfYk+96TUSoY3RafyZLiQ== From: "Watson, Karen S (DFW)" To: X-Mailman-Approved-At: Sun, 03 Jan 2010 00:21:15 +0000 X-BeenThere: dia-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.12 Precedence: list Reply-To: discussions about usage and development of dia List-Id: discussions about usage and development of dia List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 01 Jan 2010 00:06:25 -0000 This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------_=_NextPart_001_01CA8A76.386670C8 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable I currently use the ERwin data modeling tool. I receive models that are created using the Dia. Software. Is it possible to export a diagram from Dia. with a ".erwin" format, so that I can import it into Erwin r7.2? =20 Thank you =20 Karen Watson Washington State Dept. of Fish and Wildlife Karen.Watson@dfw.wa.gov =20 (360) 902-2338 =20 ------_=_NextPart_001_01CA8A76.386670C8 Content-Type: text/html; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

I currently use the ERwin data modeling tool.  =  I receive models that are created using the Dia. Software.  Is it = possible to export a diagram from Dia. with a “.erwin” format, so = that I can import it into Erwin r7.2?

 

Thank you

 

Karen Watson

Washington State Dept. of Fish and = Wildlife

Karen.Watson@dfw.wa.gov

(360) 902-2338

 

------_=_NextPart_001_01CA8A76.386670C8-- From sdteffen@gmail.com Sun Jan 3 11:25:07 2010 Return-Path: X-Original-To: dia-list@gnome.org Delivered-To: dia-list@gnome.org Received: from localhost (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C99A4750081 for ; Sun, 3 Jan 2010 11:25:07 +0000 (GMT) X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at gnome.org X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -2.599 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.599 tagged_above=-999 required=2 tests=[BAYES_00=-2.599] autolearn=ham Received: from menubar.gnome.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (menubar.gnome.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id FZ4s3Q8ep3JX for ; Sun, 3 Jan 2010 11:25:01 +0000 (GMT) Received: from mail-fx0-f227.google.com (mail-fx0-f227.google.com [209.85.220.227]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 70429750064 for ; Sun, 3 Jan 2010 11:24:53 +0000 (GMT) Received: by fxm27 with SMTP id 27so72531fxm.23 for ; Sun, 03 Jan 2010 03:24:51 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; bh=psUv1IPioWwgxxSuhsrrNWnsG7OF8RK/siQKN1x+a0U=; b=LjOJbEt7T1w8Jdy4I62HmgguZHtBkwO1BLcnvlKBVIlXR86qryBa+58bnKPbZtloR1 uScj2waiGf8lYFyQdASH7k2CAtk5ZxpYbrVrkoLr23j/7fViqIFeNkQn+lIj7ixd87zU 7yVUB07ecF5lQf3XUpokV0r5Ab/E0EVBVZIvs= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=qC3H1uOMKK4j1nyqcvZ+VG2sYv2MF0/F54XFVxFeC9uSjUVawE7A/VOWz0emI4zC6o pEe/XnH93ivw0qfhhpCBW1W1AottDBZH4kuOrHzIP030ILNi6LasO4eL+ebZ+CWLgB/d a1Nul4ySKSFgCq2yB/aLb/2epbhSahX+BZir8= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.239.170.28 with SMTP id q28mr498500hbe.149.1262517890981; Sun, 03 Jan 2010 03:24:50 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: <63C508381E090A4083A86984CE8AA4031022D3@ssvmxolydfw01.ssv.wa.lcl> References: <63C508381E090A4083A86984CE8AA4031022D3@ssvmxolydfw01.ssv.wa.lcl> Date: Sun, 3 Jan 2010 03:24:50 -0800 Message-ID: <3cb1691c1001030324l24c1819eo6b72971837710c70@mail.gmail.com> Subject: Re: Dia. diagrams and ERwin From: Steffen Macke To: discussions about usage and development of dia Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-BeenThere: dia-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.12 Precedence: list Reply-To: discussions about usage and development of dia List-Id: discussions about usage and development of dia List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 03 Jan 2010 11:25:08 -0000 Hi, > I currently use the ERwin data modeling tool.=A0 =A0I receive models that= are > created using the Dia. Software.=A0 Is it possible to export a diagram fr= om > Dia. with a =93.erwin=94 format, so that I can import it into Erwin r7.2? I'm not aware of any *.erwin export filter for Dia. Is *.erwin the only format supported by ERwin? Is there *.erwin format documented somewhere (this would eventually allow to create an *.erwin export filter in Dia)? Regards, Steffen From reisrocks@yahoo.com Mon Jan 4 11:24:31 2010 Return-Path: X-Original-To: dia-list@gnome.org Delivered-To: dia-list@gnome.org Received: from localhost (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 05D607500CD for ; Mon, 4 Jan 2010 11:24:31 +0000 (GMT) X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at gnome.org X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -2.598 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.598 tagged_above=-999 required=2 tests=[BAYES_00=-2.599, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001] autolearn=ham Received: from menubar.gnome.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (menubar.gnome.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id aOlqvHBL+GIP for ; Mon, 4 Jan 2010 11:24:24 +0000 (GMT) Received: from web30508.mail.mud.yahoo.com (web30508.mail.mud.yahoo.com [68.142.200.121]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 2ED8175008E for ; Mon, 4 Jan 2010 11:24:15 +0000 (GMT) Received: (qmail 15754 invoked by uid 60001); 4 Jan 2010 11:24:14 -0000 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=yahoo.com; s=s1024; t=1262604254; bh=48hq8GesXwdarozJkn3LQ11V3k6noh+tr7JzY9/5CAo=; h=Message-ID:X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:Date:From:Subject:To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=GFLU/li+/XOu89MYPxBbnYin0nAD/6KipliSkjTMHD91JUE+bGFGj1GmKm+lvQdzSxGbk45PHMaYYTXxBiNf9eR5CGk9p7wsOPairna4Tp5LfcEE67aQTWDiWEuVLsq2lcU3mWCRlXUf31Tezjru5iBtQX6F1UnnUokbpRXDXrI= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; h=Message-ID:X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:Date:From:Subject:To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=k4JC2j4iJRe6D1qrW+Oj/aXSfSTO0fpwoOd9p0VHFm4uOGDIiNk3rltz2uIUEElhftOvNBpScwQLALLdzT0gA4Xy6x0PxKE93y/Kd+J/J/rYEaAiJzrsuOqYoMi2jKjuC5f45PZYgfHWM0Mw7JEln//6lOMi1PdwJeWpjd5jBtY=; Message-ID: <324016.14875.qm@web30508.mail.mud.yahoo.com> X-YMail-OSG: BGgEHp0VM1mEDdGHKsfkRJaR.YBtQIdI92J8jnrs_9rRtAALFSnwN6twyQVg.ydHePuA3EphleqfiqnJ4uQPDplHujiz4G34gjIjZyqgVEsR8YyHa.ewwxWC2AKczvFhhxU92mftopE8gZ3aw5w7ak_lio7XpUk4DmxICjukgnRV.34Gu2sapugxrzPpJY8vb6hgb24ppUvDDmAaAvgK5bQFbTJapimzDRLOlS8Yf.jvUyPfjk2czPujwsVGQYuNyzAp4PC1eqij4qZPKtslsVVOinmT69KjbkjIEL5DL2n009oRorXXaZ8Xxv8TLsaoZG6GpyGOq.OqwCWveYGs3O4- Received: from [217.46.147.13] by web30508.mail.mud.yahoo.com via HTTP; Mon, 04 Jan 2010 03:24:14 PST X-Mailer: YahooMailRC/240.3 YahooMailWebService/0.8.100.260964 Date: Mon, 4 Jan 2010 03:24:14 -0800 (PST) From: reisrocks Subject: visibility and layer selection - interaction To: dia-list@gnome.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="0-596688045-1262604254=:14875" X-BeenThere: dia-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.12 Precedence: list Reply-To: discussions about usage and development of dia List-Id: discussions about usage and development of dia List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 04 Jan 2010 11:24:31 -0000 --0-596688045-1262604254=:14875 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii User story: User has multiple layers (A B and C). All layers are kept switched off other than the layer currently being edited: A. When user wants to edit layer B, layer A has to be hidden (1 click), layer B has to be displayed (1 click) and selected (1 click). That's a total of 3 clicks just to switch layers. Something which I find myself doing a lot is hiding A, showing B then I continue working.. only to find I'm still editing layer A. Could possible solutions be: - right-clicking the layer visibility Eye icon also enables the layer and - middle clicking the layer visibility Eye icon also selects it, and hides the previously enabled layer The first solution reduces the number of clicks to 2 to switch layers, the second solution reduces it to 1 single click. In the long run that would save the user a lot of redundant clicking. Small change to the interaction design, but I find this is slowing down my user experience. Right-clicking the Eye icon to show all layers, or isolate that layer is a great key combo by the way. Very well thought out. Oh and I'm using 78 layers, and my file is currently 3,457KB. I'm really impressed with the speed and stability despite the size of my file.. number of crashes so far: nill Thanks for your consideration / comments. Reis --0-596688045-1262604254=:14875 Content-Type: text/html; charset=us-ascii
User story:

User has multiple layers (A B and C). All layers are kept switched off other than the layer currently being edited: A. When user wants to edit layer B, layer A has to be hidden (1 click), layer B has to be displayed (1 click) and selected (1 click).

That's a total of 3 clicks just to switch layers. Something which I find myself doing a lot is hiding A, showing B then I continue working.. only to find I'm still editing layer A.

Could possible solutions be:
- right-clicking the layer visibility Eye icon also enables the layer
and
- middle clicking the layer visibility Eye icon also selects it, and hides the previously enabled layer

The first solution reduces the number of clicks to 2 to switch layers, the second solution reduces it to 1 single click.

In the long run that would save the user a lot of redundant clicking. Small change to the interaction design, but I find this is slowing down my user experience.

Right-clicking the Eye icon to show all layers, or isolate that layer is a great key combo by the way. Very well thought out.

Oh and I'm using 78 layers, and my file is currently 3,457KB. I'm really impressed with the speed and stability despite the size of my file.. number of crashes so far: nill

Thanks for your consideration / comments.

Reis

--0-596688045-1262604254=:14875-- From reisrocks@yahoo.com Mon Jan 4 11:26:40 2010 Return-Path: X-Original-To: dia-list@gnome.org Delivered-To: dia-list@gnome.org Received: from localhost (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BDEA97500BA for ; Mon, 4 Jan 2010 11:26:40 +0000 (GMT) X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at gnome.org X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -2.598 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.598 tagged_above=-999 required=2 tests=[BAYES_00=-2.599, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001] autolearn=ham Received: from menubar.gnome.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (menubar.gnome.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 7RSJxxMc-34k for ; Mon, 4 Jan 2010 11:26:34 +0000 (GMT) Received: from web30507.mail.mud.yahoo.com (web30507.mail.mud.yahoo.com [68.142.200.120]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 52DE175008E for ; Mon, 4 Jan 2010 11:26:25 +0000 (GMT) Received: (qmail 60849 invoked by uid 60001); 4 Jan 2010 11:26:24 -0000 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=yahoo.com; s=s1024; t=1262604384; bh=7PL+wiA/B/lgRMUsFaDSZ7gjzA7mWBLa+6+hbLHbiN8=; h=Message-ID:X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:References:Date:From:Subject:To:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=N3aneF9oA207X7qWpi2PzyRCe00Je83WRkCy53jAy03CEFNMspWgQ+Bq/ud/FvPU5yw9Ud0zcNh0zsCtlsTMnpZ2WYAJMMvUqQYWaChhBnvUfywMx34cFtGuMvs16sdcTdRn9ZEnNb5szrscTan2xdCKFYopdA8ILuWs+bji2Ss= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; h=Message-ID:X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:References:Date:From:Subject:To:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=gG9rTFbh8aS29xiLibjI+A2AfIDhyxzNi1zYA/wsrvf70w8sCCVuA+85fEndRFtYRHa2xMcGU0o/0m+2ev777FO91F04Wa5QIxdCwOnqL0T7uwXZ3DPV7l3bp6PP+rQfjvrh8GjblFquaqO36X5stIMMRFu45V2Z6IbLHuyqJH0=; Message-ID: <743139.60043.qm@web30507.mail.mud.yahoo.com> X-YMail-OSG: 7ADplUQVM1mIw3vvnt3.5aWbPLR1tIVSL6GnzYrtNghg0M39y3zScLEAQWMjXnzp4SDUOu1HSLSR5cC_7u.6VuPQT69754vfL.K5Jx6KJdXDJ6mbOTL0xsazxR.HPq4WvgfsackayDMt8GFGujs8uN4M5rn981H1gVWOejJj94Wi8TIVj7ydlV0kJ3qFdr4I1NsDLaff8eDYyz0rsA9uPT3tx4AFaEPl8zpOv33QS2vEyNm9Qnljbhv08FXKtFkuu3cgkuLTwG9uWdgPZLQUcMZ8guV75KQXsBEV3k1k4gVj3bGpEOspUbvGfL_7uM4DAfNXUvnYMtR77RDy__SZQev_x_.oMB1Zp7jGR_hyT7223dSipVNfkiIB Received: from [217.46.147.13] by web30507.mail.mud.yahoo.com via HTTP; Mon, 04 Jan 2010 03:26:24 PST X-Mailer: YahooMailRC/240.3 YahooMailWebService/0.8.100.260964 References: <324016.14875.qm@web30508.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Date: Mon, 4 Jan 2010 03:26:24 -0800 (PST) From: reisrocks Subject: Re: visibility and layer selection - interaction To: discussions about usage and development of dia In-Reply-To: <324016.14875.qm@web30508.mail.mud.yahoo.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="0-69498699-1262604384=:60043" X-BeenThere: dia-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.12 Precedence: list Reply-To: discussions about usage and development of dia List-Id: discussions about usage and development of dia List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 04 Jan 2010 11:26:41 -0000 --0-69498699-1262604384=:60043 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii > Right-clicking the Eye icon to show all layers, or isolate that layer is a great key combo by the way. Very well thought out. Oops I meant shift-clicking :) ________________________________ From: reisrocks To: dia-list@gnome.org Sent: Mon, January 4, 2010 11:24:14 AM Subject: visibility and layer selection - interaction User story: User has multiple layers (A B and C). All layers are kept switched off other than the layer currently being edited: A. When user wants to edit layer B, layer A has to be hidden (1 click), layer B has to be displayed (1 click) and selected (1 click). That's a total of 3 clicks just to switch layers. Something which I find myself doing a lot is hiding A, showing B then I continue working.. only to find I'm still editing layer A. Could possible solutions be: - right-clicking the layer visibility Eye icon also enables the layer and - middle clicking the layer visibility Eye icon also selects it, and hides the previously enabled layer The first solution reduces the number of clicks to 2 to switch layers, the second solution reduces it to 1 single click. In the long run that would save the user a lot of redundant clicking. Small change to the interaction design, but I find this is slowing down my user experience. Right-clicking the Eye icon to show all layers, or isolate that layer is a great key combo by the way. Very well thought out. Oh and I'm using 78 layers, and my file is currently 3,457KB. I'm really impressed with the speed and stability despite the size of my file.. number of crashes so far: nill Thanks for your consideration / comments. Reis --0-69498699-1262604384=:60043 Content-Type: text/html; charset=us-ascii
> Right-clicking the Eye icon to show all layers, or isolate that layer is a great key combo by the way. Very well thought out.

Oops I meant shift-clicking :)

From: reisrocks <reisrocks@yahoo.com>
To: dia-list@gnome.org
Sent: Mon, January 4, 2010 11:24:14 AM
Subject: visibility and layer selection - interaction

User story:

User has multiple layers (A B and C). All layers are kept switched off other than the layer currently being edited: A. When user wants to edit layer B, layer A has to be hidden (1 click), layer B has to be displayed (1 click) and selected (1 click).

That's a total of 3 clicks just to switch layers. Something which I find myself doing a lot is hiding A, showing B then I continue working.. only to find I'm still editing layer A.

Could possible solutions be:
- right-clicking the layer visibility Eye icon also enables the layer
and
- middle clicking the layer visibility Eye icon also selects it, and hides the previously enabled layer

The first solution reduces the number of clicks to 2 to switch layers, the second solution reduces it to 1 single click.

In the long run that would save the user a lot of redundant clicking. Small change to the interaction design, but I find this is slowing down my user experience.

Right-clicking the Eye icon to show all layers, or isolate that layer is a great key combo by the way. Very well thought out.

Oh and I'm using 78 layers, and my file is currently 3,457KB. I'm really impressed with the speed and stability despite the size of my file.. number of crashes so far: nill

Thanks for your consideration / comments.

Reis


--0-69498699-1262604384=:60043-- From killboy_powerhed@yahoo.com.au Fri Jan 8 01:26:35 2010 Return-Path: X-Original-To: dia-list@gnome.org Delivered-To: dia-list@gnome.org Received: from localhost (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CE476750063 for ; Fri, 8 Jan 2010 01:26:35 +0000 (GMT) X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at gnome.org X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -2.599 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.599 tagged_above=-999 required=2 tests=[BAYES_00=-2.599] autolearn=ham Received: from menubar.gnome.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (menubar.gnome.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 3nZEeLld5scj for ; Fri, 8 Jan 2010 01:26:26 +0000 (GMT) Received: from web51602.mail.re2.yahoo.com (web51602.mail.re2.yahoo.com [206.190.38.207]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 8CDA1750073 for ; Fri, 8 Jan 2010 01:26:18 +0000 (GMT) Received: (qmail 91274 invoked by uid 60001); 8 Jan 2010 01:26:16 -0000 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=yahoo.com.au; s=s1024; t=1262913976; bh=sWxDrU6blZErZSqr18dGYDeA4FI850qha3HME6plrLU=; h=Message-ID:X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:Date:From:Subject:To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=Bvnc6y1L0r4DXzjiuesD4eMv7yPCAPRtzYgb74MBBKjqEtUT/rTqoy4Lbmb5wpN3EdmwR92UnTYa61J2BZYXeQ1liCf/2KdbURW7oqL/bf3rvveUVF10yJVxTDcdCXSArD4BkNFStY8JHdmfv4J340ryIR8L3QRGXkK8K9OVgjc= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.com.au; h=Message-ID:X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:Date:From:Subject:To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=n1Nk5s9CVFDI5cwMt9cVPUuxaCe7qZaUsqNWNeYGi1ybHFzwVfWRYLDYBiGHI9WgO/JlZlvzp7o05M6G3y8PSS+AwpCvdIqbl+IKGPs4GYU64UWMW0G8PeoRNr2gIZcKtTkJYAstxFcBeWKqCq7srmaPQpE7axcVJLJONpxn5rI=; Message-ID: <727802.90637.qm@web51602.mail.re2.yahoo.com> X-YMail-OSG: QA.X9ZcVM1kw7Or72BWfIxgAebC_lGleQa9CrJGAUjMKLzlmyG6tDrw7hTdWhJ.jTR6N2rkvzFzJvRmEhZJmuHi_1CZuE0wO4NsQBjzvaejUsKbWb8zOOBe7Q1.ENIhunzUMIjZDsvu40RnymKPBsJUr1bVmEY7D7gTYUa7.3DD7rCQNW1uYjovcizwljwl_ZGA1eZO_xt3wPq6MoQPf1TTbcNMnKAKmJkN5FHp3Z9ifRvro0HH8N7mq9h5Btp.APSm0OAXtZ_Ex8zM6tUfb3hr_aHQsmqVoHtXzfnFFiRwusFkX57GGuHD_7bodzOVchH7VGAx9x2nyuQxiNrn_.QHDkaeDUJ8AfUZylXa1XwSOgeAYSJIUC4cebsdxZVDgwWZ762qWaB4trNUXAg-- Received: from [120.156.183.129] by web51602.mail.re2.yahoo.com via HTTP; Thu, 07 Jan 2010 17:26:16 PST X-Mailer: YahooMailClassic/9.0.20 YahooMailWebService/0.8.100.260964 Date: Thu, 7 Jan 2010 17:26:16 -0800 (PST) From: KillBoy PowerHed Subject: complex svg workaround To: dia-list@gnome.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="0-368772668-1262913976=:90637" X-BeenThere: dia-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.12 Precedence: list Reply-To: discussions about usage and development of dia List-Id: discussions about usage and development of dia List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 08 Jan 2010 01:26:36 -0000 --0-368772668-1262913976=:90637 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hi all,=0A=0AI've been using Dia for some time and I'm really happy with it= , great work guys. 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discussions about usage and development of dia List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 12 Jan 2010 05:06:43 -0000 --0-949351868-1263272783=:98513 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Sorry... bit of a lack of testing, new version attached=0A=0Acheers=0A=0A--= - On Fri, 8/1/10, KillBoy PowerHed wrote:= =0A=0A> From: KillBoy PowerHed =0A> Subject:= complex svg workaround=0A> To: dia-list@gnome.org=0A> Received: Friday, 8 = January, 2010, 12:26 PM=0A> Hi all,=0A> =0A> I've been using Dia for some t= ime and I'm really happy with=0A> it, great work guys. Recently I needed my= diagrams to look a=0A> little more modern to compete with visio so I creat= ed a few=0A> svg's. They ended up being too complex for Dia to handle so=0A= > I switched to using the image object. The output was ok but=0A> having to= always insert the images got tiresome, so I=0A> exported my image object t= o a shape - but then it didn't=0A> have any connectors...=0A> =0A> In the e= nd I've come up with a script to generate my shapes=0A> directly from the i= mage file. I add the shapes to a custom=0A> sheet, create my diagram then e= xport as an image to use=0A> wherever. There is a major limitation which is= that the Dia=0A> diagram is not portable but it works for my needs.=0A> = =0A> Please let me know if there's a better way to do this,=0A> otherwise f= eel free to use the attached script ( requires=0A> ImageMagick )=0A> =0A> c= heers=0A> =0A> killboy=0A> =0A> =0A> =A0 =A0 =A0=0A> ______________________= ____________________________________________________________=0A> See what's= on at the movies in your area. Find out now: http://au.movies.yahoo.com/se= ssion-times/=0A> -----Inline Attachment Follows-----=0A> =0A> _____________= __________________________________=0A> dia-list mailing list=0A> dia-list@g= nome.org=0A> http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/dia-list=0A> FAQ at htt= p://live.gnome.org/Dia/Faq=0A> Main page at http://live.gnome.org/Dia=0A> = =0A>=0A=0A=0A ________________________________________________________= __________________________=0ASee what's on at the movies in your area. 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Date: Tue, 12 Jan 2010 09:16:39 -0500 Message-ID: <1D9361C130B11C4DB300ADBFCA365270093152F2@zrtphxm0.corp.nortel.com> X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: Thread-Topic: Properties for objects? Thread-Index: AcqTkduD6viQ697mSemidOyXtezD+Q== From: "Joseph Chiarelli" To: X-Mailman-Approved-At: Tue, 12 Jan 2010 14:27:37 +0000 X-BeenThere: dia-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.12 Precedence: list Reply-To: discussions about usage and development of dia List-Id: discussions about usage and development of dia List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 12 Jan 2010 14:17:40 -0000 This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------_=_NextPart_001_01CA9391.DB9E894C Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable =20 I am trying to use Dia to create a layout of my work network. I have added items ( unix workstation for example). =20 How can I add 'properties' to an object in Dia. For example, if a user select a workstation can i display say the hostname, ipaddress and login information somehow? =20 Can you export to html from dia? Regards,=20 Joseph Chiarelli Multimedia Applications Solutions=20 ------_=_NextPart_001_01CA9391.DB9E894C Content-Type: text/html; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
 
I am = trying to use=20 Dia to create a layout of my work network.
I have = added items (=20 unix workstation for example).
 
How = can I add=20 'properties' to an object in Dia.
For = example, if a=20 user select a workstation can i display say the hostname, ipaddress and = login=20 information somehow?
 
Can = you export to=20 html from dia?

Regards,

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------_=_NextPart_001_01CA9391.DB9E894C-- From sdteffen@gmail.com Tue Jan 12 17:56:39 2010 Return-Path: X-Original-To: dia-list@gnome.org Delivered-To: dia-list@gnome.org Received: from localhost (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 638CD7500B7 for ; Tue, 12 Jan 2010 17:56:39 +0000 (GMT) X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at gnome.org X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -2.599 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.599 tagged_above=-999 required=2 tests=[BAYES_00=-2.599] autolearn=ham Received: from menubar.gnome.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (menubar.gnome.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id YJxVVjRIVfVu for ; Tue, 12 Jan 2010 17:56:30 +0000 (GMT) Received: from mail-fx0-f227.google.com (mail-fx0-f227.google.com [209.85.220.227]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C4C6F75010A for ; Tue, 12 Jan 2010 17:56:21 +0000 (GMT) Received: by fxm27 with SMTP id 27so501955fxm.23 for ; Tue, 12 Jan 2010 09:56:19 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=kPlz31TkeX7zhL3ftLXXA5Xldx0VdsBl1ryQTmj+3MA=; b=cTfafoEab1Ir/I93inER5DbCCeToGOYw5ioc6nd/n6/3aC4fYK02hxfRHRzH/7iUme T6gFZLu0cSxm4tfJEg4BUe6VbMtv1VkZP+l8VcX03esocIVo/dFeIf8+eZTTNCemY6Ok 3CkbN3Svc1JmodghrRWRRx0hRMW6dkr2D9RaI= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; b=LwU3umH59Efz4dDT97x1rFwoQwCEfS9FL8U/zGvepc0R+2XzfPXuSs7z2b0lxIvHQr Z4k+XkPsU7g1fs0Atj4jRFiICpLJcDkEqru9mjuyyG4R/XjiQVfMPpjUTrPBeJK+f0A3 yRLruM6qM+9brtaYHHhrbi+8dyHQwQXOQm5gs= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.239.185.81 with SMTP id b17mr141074hbh.191.1263318979452; Tue, 12 Jan 2010 09:56:19 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: <1D9361C130B11C4DB300ADBFCA365270093152F2@zrtphxm0.corp.nortel.com> References: <1D9361C130B11C4DB300ADBFCA365270093152F2@zrtphxm0.corp.nortel.com> Date: Tue, 12 Jan 2010 09:56:19 -0800 Message-ID: <3cb1691c1001120956y754adbc7m45b816f104d29eba@mail.gmail.com> Subject: Re: Properties for objects? From: Steffen Macke To: discussions about usage and development of dia Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 X-BeenThere: dia-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.12 Precedence: list Reply-To: discussions about usage and development of dia List-Id: discussions about usage and development of dia List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 12 Jan 2010 17:56:39 -0000 Hi Joseph, > How can I add 'properties' to an object in Dia. > For example, if a user select a workstation can i display say the hostname, > ipaddress and login information somehow? This is described here: http://git.gnome.org/cgit/dia/tree/doc/custom-shapes > Can you export to html from dia? You could do something like that e.g. using the XSL export filters. But why don't you just use an exported image (e.g. in PNG format) in your HTML (using the tag)? Regards, Steffen From sdteffen@gmail.com Thu Jan 14 21:29:32 2010 Return-Path: X-Original-To: dia-list@gnome.org Delivered-To: dia-list@gnome.org Received: from localhost (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A1D2C75009C for ; Thu, 14 Jan 2010 21:29:32 +0000 (GMT) X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at gnome.org X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -2.599 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.599 tagged_above=-999 required=2 tests=[BAYES_00=-2.599] autolearn=ham Received: from menubar.gnome.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (menubar.gnome.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id EG9Q3635TXgw for ; Thu, 14 Jan 2010 21:29:27 +0000 (GMT) Received: from fg-out-1718.google.com (fg-out-1718.google.com [72.14.220.158]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D8FC77500BA for ; Thu, 14 Jan 2010 21:29:18 +0000 (GMT) Received: by fg-out-1718.google.com with SMTP id e12so55261fga.9 for ; Thu, 14 Jan 2010 13:29:16 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=Ee2pxE7o5FL7b5qHE/BW1qkYIXRsnnnlkBosypZfCLg=; b=XCnTNx1EqRo/GGAbM0Gy2AEq9R5ETlTVroUe7YgG1wf04EoTKw/dzkwta++4Ooa8it VG2ppREwfpisvrcHBYnLiO1OkJHbVxIuqysAjlAgkAVH4trULI1y8/QdG+B8Hwr0tgrz JQ9TfxjknFDClHyVF2xaw3dCF/0EVkB6zLdeQ= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; b=E31XClp0OThl7MoxQG+uR6RHA+UFzwuRbpMJTE7LXHksLVuWwJHhJDYMkdgIhhD7wy lfUXiee2BrbXu8oTd5+EKXfpnwn3t1keimJ4AYsJgOa3iwpepdveYxZQ6Gp6PjUH3l8l 78oB9PdsPQKtXp645KUp9KrBQv5sdKuUcO7eQ= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.239.184.6 with SMTP id w6mr159956hbg.4.1263504555892; Thu, 14 Jan 2010 13:29:15 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: <648746.98513.qm@web51608.mail.re2.yahoo.com> References: <648746.98513.qm@web51608.mail.re2.yahoo.com> Date: Thu, 14 Jan 2010 13:29:15 -0800 Message-ID: <3cb1691c1001141329i55828f3drd7a3dd8495abb93b@mail.gmail.com> Subject: Re: complex svg workaround From: Steffen Macke To: discussions about usage and development of dia Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 X-BeenThere: dia-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.12 Precedence: list Reply-To: discussions about usage and development of dia List-Id: discussions about usage and development of dia List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 14 Jan 2010 21:29:32 -0000 Hi KillBoy, thanks for sharing these shape creation tools! My imagemagick/mogrify is having some problems creating the icon, but otherwise things worked just fine Regards, Steffen From progysm@gmail.com Sun Jan 17 22:10:14 2010 Return-Path: X-Original-To: dia-list@gnome.org Delivered-To: dia-list@gnome.org Received: from localhost (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 47E6C75010E for ; Sun, 17 Jan 2010 22:10:14 +0000 (GMT) X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at gnome.org X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -2.599 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.599 tagged_above=-999 required=2 tests=[BAYES_00=-2.599] autolearn=ham Received: from menubar.gnome.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (menubar.gnome.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id qD-KDjBCFaOa for ; Sun, 17 Jan 2010 22:10:05 +0000 (GMT) Received: from mail-qy0-f193.google.com (mail-qy0-f193.google.com [209.85.221.193]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 51516750126 for ; Sun, 17 Jan 2010 22:09:56 +0000 (GMT) Received: by qyk31 with SMTP id 31so1409176qyk.9 for ; Sun, 17 Jan 2010 14:09:55 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from :user-agent:mime-version:to:subject:x-enigmail-version:content-type; bh=OGrtb1Dg4k+iUqrNebLHLts9932vBu0CwnO7oUMjeOI=; b=thrtUU7+7N8ojoeKPPnodAeLd2mZxPXJsNkpiqRs+jrr6WkBdBPfQrm/JbsP1aFl6h ToL1EoWL4HCcwc98YVVgMcIMw8sS11iY7yhPTRvJnIXcK6lror00x5pgWMEnl7OwysSG SxTqKWNMyi8k/r52HfixmJIIZG+tKSCvAyfGw= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:user-agent:mime-version:to:subject :x-enigmail-version:content-type; b=vOFqrIyatOw8wMWZm5l0E57OUN1uUZJ5QJHlFQxsYf3UNdGDpPLN6lsfXnzofOWkx3 Lm3bh727KfTBt6l/4pjXDrWKgA25zJo+H2DgIvxxIxnsRhULHQ8qJn0D5DCPHYJNqcVT Kl7d5aMUCLcVqjySTT9MsLDl100MK/xDGDS1w= Received: by 10.229.46.204 with SMTP id k12mr3596304qcf.40.1263766194569; Sun, 17 Jan 2010 14:09:54 -0800 (PST) Received: from work.progysm.ysm (progysm.com [69.70.71.74]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id 23sm4355009qyk.3.2010.01.17.14.09.52 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=RC4-MD5); Sun, 17 Jan 2010 14:09:53 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <4B538B42.7040105@gmail.com> Date: Sun, 17 Jan 2010 17:12:18 -0500 From: Yan Morin User-Agent: Mozilla-Thunderbird 2.0.0.22 (X11/20091109) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: dia-list@gnome.org Subject: How to create proportionnal shapes? X-Enigmail-Version: 0.95.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="------------010704010906050903080601" X-BeenThere: dia-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.12 Precedence: list Reply-To: discussions about usage and development of dia List-Id: discussions about usage and development of dia List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 17 Jan 2010 22:10:14 -0000 This is a multi-part message in MIME format. --------------010704010906050903080601 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Hi, I would like to know how to draw, edit or create proportionnal shapes (.shape in svg) so that when I insert different kind of valve (chemical/engineering), they have the same size and they are on the same middle level. Right now, I've tried to copy chemeng/val.shape to ~/.dia/shapes/val-manual.shape and then add some lines to create a manual valve. In ascii art this is the normal valve (found in ChemEng) |\ /| | \/ | | /\ | |/ \| And I want to create this: _____ | |\ |/| | \/ | | /\ | |/ \| But when I use normal valve, and insert my new valve, they don't have the same size since their absolute height and width are not the same, even if they have the same coordinate (in the svg). If I use magnetic grid, both shape center are not on the same line. The final goal is to easily attach a pipe on the center of each valve, horizontal and vertical, without too much manipulation, but they need to be the same size. I know that I could manually resize them and then copy/paste it. Then I would have to select them all, and then align them (with the menu)... But what is the magnetic grid for if I can't use it... Could I specify a outer box in SVG so that each object are the same width, height and center? Final result: (lines/pipes are aligned on magnetic grid) _____ | |\ /| |\ |/| ______| \/ |_____| \/ |_____________ <-- this pipe and valves center are align with magnetic grid | /\ | | /\ | | |/ \| |/ \| | | _____ |----------- <-- this pipe too... | | |\ /| |\ |/| | ______| \/ |_____| \/ |____________| <-- this pipe and valves center are align with magnetic grid too | /\ | | /\ | |/ \| |/ \| -- Yan Morin Consultant en Logiciel Libre de Progysm progysm@gmail.com http://www.progysm.com/ 819 499-0616 --------------010704010906050903080601 Content-Type: text/x-vcard; charset=utf-8; name="progysm.vcf" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: attachment; filename="progysm.vcf" begin:vcard fn:Yan Morin n:Morin;Yan org:ProgYSM adr;quoted-printable:;;417, rue du Portage, app. 17;Mont-Laurier;Qu=C3=A9bec;J9L 2A3;Canada email;internet:progysm@gmail.com title:Consultant en Logiciel Libre tel;work:819-499-0616 note;quoted-printable:Consultation pour les Logiciels Libres=0D=0A= Programmation Web=0D=0A= Programmation XUL, Java, C++=0D=0A= Scripting Linux=0D=0A= Support technique Linux=0D=0A= Formation Web/Linux/Programmation url:http://www.progysm.com/ version:2.1 end:vcard --------------010704010906050903080601-- From sdteffen@gmail.com Mon Jan 18 07:13:06 2010 Return-Path: X-Original-To: dia-list@gnome.org Delivered-To: dia-list@gnome.org Received: from localhost (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6893375004D for ; Mon, 18 Jan 2010 07:13:06 +0000 (GMT) X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at gnome.org X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -2.599 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.599 tagged_above=-999 required=2 tests=[BAYES_00=-2.599] autolearn=ham Received: from menubar.gnome.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (menubar.gnome.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id fTyA-jWayTJH for ; Mon, 18 Jan 2010 07:12:58 +0000 (GMT) Received: from mail-fx0-f227.google.com (mail-fx0-f227.google.com [209.85.220.227]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 633E275008C for ; Mon, 18 Jan 2010 07:12:50 +0000 (GMT) Received: by fxm27 with SMTP id 27so1949722fxm.23 for ; Sun, 17 Jan 2010 23:12:48 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=R+9U0FrGBWWfx6dYQidSU47Zq6MagfbZncLOJXoIekc=; b=fk6rMJCM6Kf7djD3vOch5zRdi/aSD7o9DJmSFbPeM7Y1cbM5iPBufQFX9sXd/HX4Xt yQxBRqiMHpFFjHm8FDoJ5Es2tJlQFICxlv/QoXcA6gFIh4B6Wimm9SWp4RS/xJbJ7w2l PqodV4fMAadLSFfqin73c+bz6xodDzoDUjwto= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; b=OZBEGPVKEW8LfaLgF7cBsJujeUvNPZ88ZFgycMa0gbYVySd2aqyEZRuz50bGOLQdKh V5KjBtmHvwkC1tkllqQGaP33EA2SbfYG1OouQYFZw6SylwbUsQQLU/jcIyLtVvXPHWPQ hkwGhLL1Pysc1SnCVjO0GHCguLyHTzhNs1Ki4= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.239.188.135 with SMTP id p7mr330741hbh.141.1263798767896; Sun, 17 Jan 2010 23:12:47 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: <4B538B42.7040105@gmail.com> References: <4B538B42.7040105@gmail.com> Date: Sun, 17 Jan 2010 23:12:47 -0800 Message-ID: <3cb1691c1001172312w6af22a0u2f0b3c1a4dc7ec90@mail.gmail.com> Subject: Re: How to create proportionnal shapes? From: Steffen Macke To: discussions about usage and development of dia Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 X-BeenThere: dia-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.12 Precedence: list Reply-To: discussions about usage and development of dia List-Id: discussions about usage and development of dia List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 18 Jan 2010 07:13:06 -0000 Hi Yann, so basically you want to assign a default size to your shapes. See http://git.gnome.org/browse/dia/tree/doc/custom-shapes Shapes are given a default size on creation. If that default size does not fit your needs you can overwrite it by (one or both): 1cm 3cm The default unit "cm" can be omitted. Have you tried to add these values to your shapes? Regards, Steffen From progysm@gmail.com Mon Jan 18 19:13:35 2010 Return-Path: X-Original-To: dia-list@gnome.org Delivered-To: dia-list@gnome.org Received: from localhost (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 00A197500F7 for ; Mon, 18 Jan 2010 19:13:35 +0000 (GMT) X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at gnome.org X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -2.599 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.599 tagged_above=-999 required=2 tests=[BAYES_00=-2.599] autolearn=ham Received: from menubar.gnome.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (menubar.gnome.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 6yemUfpLi2aW for ; Mon, 18 Jan 2010 19:13:25 +0000 (GMT) Received: from mail-gx0-f217.google.com (mail-gx0-f217.google.com [209.85.217.217]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 26AA775008C for ; Mon, 18 Jan 2010 19:13:16 +0000 (GMT) Received: by gxk9 with SMTP id 9so4321824gxk.8 for ; Mon, 18 Jan 2010 11:13:15 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from :user-agent:mime-version:to:subject:references:in-reply-to :x-enigmail-version:content-type; bh=qTbT+Nspv4Srh1S5O3LE2VGnptVPR0GQeHp0HXyfsqs=; b=IhAeKDkFrhGwDA33xoXy6pnMroVBWKMjsBECg79tFMzsN8jMbmNOK+IXrkn6T5QAMm jbmiUiHyv16ju8xn+7AT7+5E7YBBDviYPSZ+uamyNUS3l/IS7zi4N8DBA5+jK1pj5jMN Ivj7iDuB93pLWFXpQU3sdchpB9u0ZcDz1edbg= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:user-agent:mime-version:to:subject:references :in-reply-to:x-enigmail-version:content-type; b=tFo9YhrCG1LjX9ZtFPQQm0D+0/ntVDO+N0dT5ngdFACmY0RLpoKufc8xB8MckBlZ2t u1kcqdFywW92nbET24EgL8rH5A2efA3cUeLIP2pBNNUyNxOLuOnr1Q9gwmMpZgpZS1OJ NsZpvKQN7gUsiapXd2lK0Lp8aowzEQSR7quX8= Received: by 10.151.89.31 with SMTP id r31mr6149175ybl.99.1263841990501; Mon, 18 Jan 2010 11:13:10 -0800 (PST) Received: from work.progysm.ysm (progysm.com [69.70.71.74]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id 21sm2181726ywh.46.2010.01.18.11.13.08 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=RC4-MD5); Mon, 18 Jan 2010 11:13:09 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <4B54B357.5080705@gmail.com> Date: Mon, 18 Jan 2010 14:15:35 -0500 From: Yan Morin User-Agent: Mozilla-Thunderbird 2.0.0.22 (X11/20091109) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: dia-list@gnome.org Subject: Re: Re: How to create proportionnal shapes? References: In-Reply-To: X-Enigmail-Version: 0.95.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="------------060609020803040009000809" X-BeenThere: dia-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.12 Precedence: list Reply-To: discussions about usage and development of dia List-Id: discussions about usage and development of dia List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 18 Jan 2010 19:13:35 -0000 This is a multi-part message in MIME format. --------------060609020803040009000809 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Hi Steffen Macke, Of course, I didn't tried and because they aren't inside the web site documentation http://live.gnome.org/Dia/Documentation, How to create a new shape : *.shape XML file FAQ on http://projects.gnome.org/dia/ also gives this link http://projects.gnome.org/dia/custom-shapes Is it possible to tell dia to use magnetic grid on a given point of a shape? Like in my example, I want that the middle of the X be on each pipe/line or do I need to recreate all figure to get a big empty box around each shapes? -- Yan Morin Consultant en Logiciel Libre de Progysm progysm@gmail.com http://www.progysm.com/ 819 499-0616 --------------060609020803040009000809 Content-Type: text/x-vcard; charset=utf-8; name="progysm.vcf" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: attachment; filename="progysm.vcf" begin:vcard fn:Yan Morin n:Morin;Yan org:ProgYSM adr;quoted-printable:;;417, rue du Portage, app. 17;Mont-Laurier;Qu=C3=A9bec;J9L 2A3;Canada email;internet:progysm@gmail.com title:Consultant en Logiciel Libre tel;work:819-499-0616 note;quoted-printable:Consultation pour les Logiciels Libres=0D=0A= Programmation Web=0D=0A= Programmation XUL, Java, C++=0D=0A= Scripting Linux=0D=0A= Support technique Linux=0D=0A= Formation Web/Linux/Programmation url:http://www.progysm.com/ version:2.1 end:vcard --------------060609020803040009000809-- From sdteffen@gmail.com Wed Jan 20 19:41:01 2010 Return-Path: X-Original-To: dia-list@gnome.org Delivered-To: dia-list@gnome.org Received: from localhost (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 30A507500D8 for ; Wed, 20 Jan 2010 19:41:01 +0000 (GMT) X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at gnome.org X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -2.599 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.599 tagged_above=-999 required=2 tests=[BAYES_00=-2.599] autolearn=ham Received: from menubar.gnome.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (menubar.gnome.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id p9xzyJUjziji for ; Wed, 20 Jan 2010 19:40:55 +0000 (GMT) Received: from mail-fx0-f217.google.com (mail-fx0-f217.google.com [209.85.220.217]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7934F75019B for ; Wed, 20 Jan 2010 19:40:47 +0000 (GMT) Received: by fxm9 with SMTP id 9so4363509fxm.30 for ; Wed, 20 Jan 2010 11:40:45 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=TdeLKHTR6xbGxlaCOtOmUdxiSY6voGyZGyky+O0oSDQ=; b=ihxiLQRu/x3OWwpq4MIGLLIUiAvHLtg9XAyUHeIiyyHi516OlNlvISfhc97Zs6vPBn MvleNlDduPX4IfL9bcaOZRv/YsJ3TCTRjBrVfz9DOdLN8lPc3sndaZ5dpjaAqp2bZch3 cj+BifkYeirGADoJVWWKL83Kpzd+HGoENugYM= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; b=fLytZWhWmkPsJH0QslmCkGd5v33kCQtoHji0iZZXSLacBMHlord+HBBdNVu9+uEp5j gnJmNlT0FQKsPP5snicx+CTF/Kc7uO0AqXbXVpiSKEQF9ORLQBijJvRi2v/ebQVzbJVO NPBhumik+QKUP0PFoe7hRXU8ZmyCCORWkD0kI= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.239.150.143 with SMTP id n15mr46655hbb.205.1264016445050; Wed, 20 Jan 2010 11:40:45 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: <4B54B357.5080705@gmail.com> References: <4B54B357.5080705@gmail.com> Date: Wed, 20 Jan 2010 11:40:44 -0800 Message-ID: <3cb1691c1001201140p4540cc68y6acebf10799acea@mail.gmail.com> Subject: Re: Re: How to create proportionnal shapes? From: Steffen Macke To: discussions about usage and development of dia Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 X-BeenThere: dia-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.12 Precedence: list Reply-To: discussions about usage and development of dia List-Id: discussions about usage and development of dia List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 20 Jan 2010 19:41:01 -0000 Hi, > Is it possible to tell dia to use magnetic grid on a given point of a shape? > > Like in my example, I want that the middle of the X be on each pipe/line > or do I need to recreate all figure to get a big empty box around each > shapes? In the example you've given, it should be possible to select the valves and use Objects->Align->Bottom (unless I overlooked something). So as long as you have one common "edge" to align on (top, bottom, center), it might not be necessary to standardize the shape sizes. Regards, Steffen From hans@breuer.org Mon Jan 25 19:24:31 2010 Return-Path: X-Original-To: dia-list@gnome.org Delivered-To: dia-list@gnome.org Received: from localhost (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9AAC47500B4 for ; Mon, 25 Jan 2010 19:24:31 +0000 (GMT) X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at gnome.org X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -2.599 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.599 tagged_above=-999 required=2 tests=[BAYES_00=-2.599] autolearn=ham Received: from menubar.gnome.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (menubar.gnome.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id trb0CfMdVmBv for ; Mon, 25 Jan 2010 19:24:26 +0000 (GMT) Received: from smtprelay.hostedemail.com (smtprelay0186.hostedemail.com [216.40.44.186]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0AF1875006B for ; Mon, 25 Jan 2010 19:24:17 +0000 (GMT) Received: from filter.hostedemail.com (ff-bigip1 [10.5.19.254]) by smtprelay01.hostedemail.com (Postfix) with SMTP id 6156F186EE04 for ; Mon, 25 Jan 2010 19:24:10 +0000 (UTC) X-Panda: scanned! X-Session-Marker: 68616E73406272657565722E6F7267 X-Filterd-Recvd-Size: 1835 Received: from [192.168.42.10] (dslb-092-075-133-067.pools.arcor-ip.net [92.75.133.67]) (Authenticated sender: hans@breuer.org) by omf01.hostedemail.com (Postfix) with ESMTP for ; Mon, 25 Jan 2010 19:24:09 +0000 (UTC) Message-ID: <4B5DEFD7.1060807@breuer.org> Date: Mon, 25 Jan 2010 20:24:07 +0100 From: Hans Breuer User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.9.1.5) Gecko/20091204 Thunderbird/3.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: discussions about usage and development of dia Subject: Dia-0.97.1 - bug-fix release Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-BeenThere: dia-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.12 Precedence: list Reply-To: discussions about usage and development of dia List-Id: discussions about usage and development of dia List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 25 Jan 2010 19:24:31 -0000 Get it at http://download.gnome.org/sources/dia/0.97/ About nine month after Dia 0.97 we felt the need for a bug-fix only release. Notable issues resolved: 570592 Cannot open or save files or paths with localized characters 581380 Consumes more and more memory over time 583533 Selection Inverse, Remove, Union... (all broken) 583675 Crash with help menu entries 585973 Crash upon canseling(closing) object editing 587967 Export and Printing shows none-existing lines 587218 Dia entering an endless loop with cairo print/display rendering/png export 599587 Shape export icon creation fails without libart renderer 603004 Exporting a document to png without --size crashes dia http://bugzilla.gnome.org/buglist.cgi?product=dia&target_milestone=0.97.1 for details and complete list There also is 573261 PDF: Letters above each other but given that Dia-0.97.1 does not enforce Pango-1.26.1 yet, the report is left open. Happy Diagramming, Hans -------- Hans "at" Breuer "dot" Org ----------- Tell me what you need, and I'll tell you how to get along without it. -- Dilbert From sdteffen@gmail.com Mon Jan 25 19:45:24 2010 Return-Path: X-Original-To: dia-list@gnome.org Delivered-To: dia-list@gnome.org Received: from localhost (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9811C7500B4 for ; Mon, 25 Jan 2010 19:45:24 +0000 (GMT) X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at gnome.org X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -2.599 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.599 tagged_above=-999 required=2 tests=[BAYES_00=-2.599] autolearn=ham Received: from menubar.gnome.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (menubar.gnome.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id paDYw49Si0hL for ; Mon, 25 Jan 2010 19:45:17 +0000 (GMT) Received: from mail-fx0-f227.google.com (mail-fx0-f227.google.com [209.85.220.227]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1FB5B75006B for ; Mon, 25 Jan 2010 19:45:08 +0000 (GMT) Received: by fxm27 with SMTP id 27so1104910fxm.23 for ; Mon, 25 Jan 2010 11:45:07 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=NIKOXDwnxxaZNaY2X2ofSCTa2m5AMnarfMBMFqV1QEc=; b=dzPT1P5GVwg7fvPmpVpwy4HSo/xyTppsdXJymFs2jT7c4oJAs11S2GlxlVf5Ur6jPY 3gHf/7ZfPK9I0gfMdc4Axh9TL4Zw3T7RCHgn5zUWBOtwY2ZK26Wzg14daFIUHTknluvK NC8gGXTAesVdHnMIHoHCNTkLk/b/4vxudjLEk= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; b=ZsHmh+/sWsmL4mPqdPEYCE11zbNalTpcKYh2OqL3jIzEUIU/KBpKGobfQsSA9kYuKi sTenb8eB+bXijK1MAooSkZJJ6Y+FTttyaSfv7NDA8SprqhVFtd5wzWb/3QMl4huPSgqd HbqOKVCcnIbAO3hdnMGfyym67OakD0wUPvPHM= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.239.187.209 with SMTP id m17mr822679hbh.148.1264448706685; Mon, 25 Jan 2010 11:45:06 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: <4B5DEFD7.1060807@breuer.org> References: <4B5DEFD7.1060807@breuer.org> Date: Mon, 25 Jan 2010 11:45:06 -0800 Message-ID: <3cb1691c1001251145x50fd75c2h7799a943b6bb9668@mail.gmail.com> Subject: Re: Dia-0.97.1 - bug-fix release From: Steffen Macke To: discussions about usage and development of dia Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 X-BeenThere: dia-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.12 Precedence: list Reply-To: discussions about usage and development of dia List-Id: discussions about usage and development of dia List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 25 Jan 2010 19:45:24 -0000 Thanks, Hans! An updated Windows installer is available from http://dia-installer.de The installer now includes the necessary files to embed SVG images in Dia using the Image object. Note that you'll have to switch from "Supported Formats" to "All Files" when browsing for the SVG. This is annoying, but I couldn't figure yet how to make Dia on Windows realize that SVG is supported now - on Linux this works just nicely for me. The installer build uses two files that are not included in the official tarballs - I was too stupid to get the necessary changes into the 0.97 branch in time. Get the files from the git repository or https://sourceforge.net/projects/dia-installer/files/dia/0.97.1/dia-0.97.1-win32-patch.tar.bz2/download Steffen From miked@dewhirst.com.au Wed Jan 27 09:58:42 2010 Return-Path: X-Original-To: dia-list@gnome.org Delivered-To: dia-list@gnome.org Received: from localhost (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id ED40F7500E6 for ; Wed, 27 Jan 2010 09:58:41 +0000 (GMT) X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at gnome.org X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -2.458 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.458 tagged_above=-999 required=2 tests=[AWL=0.141, BAYES_00=-2.599] autolearn=ham Received: from menubar.gnome.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (menubar.gnome.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id pIN+XEC0TIXj for ; Wed, 27 Jan 2010 09:58:35 +0000 (GMT) Received: from mail.turbonet.com.au (mail.turbonet.com.au [203.17.237.132]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 84F937500EB for ; Wed, 27 Jan 2010 09:58:26 +0000 (GMT) Received: from localhost (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by mail.turbonet.com.au (Postfix) with ESMTP id EA77A2242EA for ; Wed, 27 Jan 2010 20:58:23 +1100 (EST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at legion.com.au Received: from mail.turbonet.com.au ([203.17.237.132]) by localhost (santa.legion.com.au [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10030) with LMTP id nhikiA4Ho-Cq for ; Wed, 27 Jan 2010 20:58:19 +1100 (EST) Received: from [192.168.0.50] (unknown [203.25.139.148]) by mail.turbonet.com.au (Postfix) with ESMTP id C87FA2242EB for ; Wed, 27 Jan 2010 20:58:12 +1100 (EST) Message-ID: <4B600E3E.5040704@dewhirst.com.au> Date: Wed, 27 Jan 2010 20:58:22 +1100 From: Mike Dewhirst User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.9.1.5) Gecko/20091204 Thunderbird/3.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: dia-list@gnome.org Subject: database table diagonal lines when printing Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="------------060903090206030207030406" X-Mailman-Approved-At: Wed, 27 Jan 2010 16:45:13 +0000 X-BeenThere: dia-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.12 Precedence: list Reply-To: discussions about usage and development of dia List-Id: discussions about usage and development of dia List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 27 Jan 2010 09:58:42 -0000 This is a multi-part message in MIME format. --------------060903090206030207030406 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit I checked the mailing list archive and found a question on this but no-one appears to have answered it. Hence I'm reporting that I see the same thing and wonder if there is a fix. The Database Table object works fine on-screen. I have attached a small pdf to demonstrate the effect when printing but in case that doesn't make it through the mailing list gate I'll describe it now. When printed on a printer (I have two) or via PDFCreator or via Dia exporting to pdf you see half-strength diagonal lines emanating from the circular bullets (but not the diamond shaped primary key bullet) and rising at about 25 or 30 degrees across the attribute names. Dia is a wonderful package and I'm really pleased to have been using it for the last few years. I've been intending to report this for some time. Sorry it has taken me so long. 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GVbQu1+LfInB for ; Wed, 27 Jan 2010 20:21:23 +0000 (GMT) Received: from mail.g4t3.de (mail.g4t3.de [193.34.68.211]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 625F575006C for ; Wed, 27 Jan 2010 20:21:14 +0000 (GMT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mail.g4t3.de (Postfix) with ESMTP id E549926784 for ; Wed, 27 Jan 2010 21:25:09 +0100 (CET) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at g4t3.de Received: from mail.g4t3.de ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (mail.g4t3.de [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 41tDBuPleB2N for ; Wed, 27 Jan 2010 21:24:55 +0100 (CET) Received: from [10.101.129.15] (95-89-42-209-dynip.superkabel.de [95.89.42.209]) by mail.g4t3.de (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 6A09C82 for ; Wed, 27 Jan 2010 21:24:55 +0100 (CET) Message-ID: <4B60A029.8020907@g4t3.de> Date: Wed, 27 Jan 2010 21:20:57 +0100 From: Thimo Langbehn User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.23 (X11/20100124) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: discussions about usage and development of dia Subject: Re: database table diagonal lines when printing References: <4B600E3E.5040704@dewhirst.com.au> In-Reply-To: <4B600E3E.5040704@dewhirst.com.au> X-Enigmail-Version: 0.95.7 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-BeenThere: dia-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.12 Precedence: list Reply-To: discussions about usage and development of dia List-Id: discussions about usage and development of dia List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 27 Jan 2010 20:21:33 -0000 -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA512 Hi Mike Mike Dewhirst wrote: > The Database Table object works fine on-screen. > > When printed on a printer (I have two) or via PDFCreator or via Dia > exporting to pdf you see half-strength diagonal lines emanating from the > circular bullets (but not the diamond shaped primary key bullet) and > rising at about 25 or 30 degrees across the attribute names. I think this is the same bug as reported in [1] and, according to [2], is already fixed in the current source. I verified that such a problem existed in 0.97-pre3 but is fixed in 0.97.1 . If you have a previous version, please update to the latest release [3]. If your Problem persists in 0.97.1, tell us, or even better, file a Bug Report in [4]. Regards, Thimo [1] https://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=607905 [2] https://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=587967 [3] http://live.gnome.org/Dia/Download [4] https://bugzilla.gnome.org/enter_bug.cgi?product=dia -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2.0.11 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iEUEAREKAAYFAktgoCgACgkQLoHAUMxCwiU/dACfdQ2T3JJhEZww7vc3LTJx7pUb r9YAmLTH8jBXu0VGwQNp+zy8iaJq0FU= =efuj -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- From miked@dewhirst.com.au Wed Jan 27 23:28:51 2010 Return-Path: X-Original-To: dia-list@gnome.org Delivered-To: dia-list@gnome.org Received: from localhost (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id EAD18750138 for ; Wed, 27 Jan 2010 23:28:50 +0000 (GMT) X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at gnome.org X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -2.463 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.463 tagged_above=-999 required=2 tests=[AWL=0.136, BAYES_00=-2.599] autolearn=ham Received: from menubar.gnome.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (menubar.gnome.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id LjasFUjuYBCE for ; Wed, 27 Jan 2010 23:28:42 +0000 (GMT) Received: from mail.turbonet.com.au (mail.turbonet.com.au [203.17.237.132]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 344C5750089 for ; Wed, 27 Jan 2010 23:28:33 +0000 (GMT) Received: from localhost (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by mail.turbonet.com.au (Postfix) with ESMTP id 982732242B1 for ; Thu, 28 Jan 2010 10:28:31 +1100 (EST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at legion.com.au Received: from mail.turbonet.com.au ([203.17.237.132]) by localhost (santa.legion.com.au [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10030) with LMTP id ktddz4ajON4O for ; Thu, 28 Jan 2010 10:28:23 +1100 (EST) Received: from [192.168.0.50] (unknown [203.25.139.148]) by mail.turbonet.com.au (Postfix) with ESMTP id 40ECF2242B4 for ; Thu, 28 Jan 2010 10:28:16 +1100 (EST) Message-ID: <4B60CC1C.6070608@dewhirst.com.au> Date: Thu, 28 Jan 2010 10:28:28 +1100 From: Mike Dewhirst User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.9.1.5) Gecko/20091204 Thunderbird/3.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: discussions about usage and development of dia Subject: Re: database table diagonal lines when printing References: <4B600E3E.5040704@dewhirst.com.au> <4B60A029.8020907@g4t3.de> In-Reply-To: <4B60A029.8020907@g4t3.de> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-BeenThere: dia-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.12 Precedence: list Reply-To: discussions about usage and development of dia List-Id: discussions about usage and development of dia List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 27 Jan 2010 23:28:51 -0000 On 28/01/2010 7:20am, Thimo Langbehn wrote: > -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- > Hash: SHA512 > > Hi Mike > > Mike Dewhirst wrote: >> The Database Table object works fine on-screen. >> >> When printed on a printer (I have two) or via PDFCreator or via Dia >> exporting to pdf you see half-strength diagonal lines emanating from the >> circular bullets (but not the diamond shaped primary key bullet) and >> rising at about 25 or 30 degrees across the attribute names. > > I think this is the same bug as reported in [1] and, according to > [2], is already fixed in the current source. > I verified that such a problem existed in 0.97-pre3 but is fixed in > 0.97.1 . If you have a previous version, please update to the latest > release [3]. Thimo Thanks for that. I went to see if there was a new version and saw 0.97 and assumed I already had the latest. Now I know better I'll dig deeper and go get 0.97.1. Cheers Mike If your Problem persists in 0.97.1, tell us, or even > better, file a Bug Report in [4]. > > Regards, > > Thimo > > [1] https://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=607905 > [2] https://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=587967 > [3] http://live.gnome.org/Dia/Download > [4] https://bugzilla.gnome.org/enter_bug.cgi?product=dia > -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- > Version: GnuPG v2.0.11 (GNU/Linux) > Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org > > iEUEAREKAAYFAktgoCgACgkQLoHAUMxCwiU/dACfdQ2T3JJhEZww7vc3LTJx7pUb > r9YAmLTH8jBXu0VGwQNp+zy8iaJq0FU= > =efuj > -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- > _______________________________________________ > dia-list mailing list > dia-list@gnome.org > http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/dia-list > FAQ at http://live.gnome.org/Dia/Faq > Main page at http://live.gnome.org/Dia > > > From sdteffen@gmail.com Sat Jan 30 21:16:13 2010 Return-Path: X-Original-To: dia-list@gnome.org Delivered-To: dia-list@gnome.org Received: from localhost (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id F1B2B75013D for ; Sat, 30 Jan 2010 21:16:12 +0000 (GMT) X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at gnome.org X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -2.445 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.445 tagged_above=-999 required=2 tests=[BAYES_00=-2.599, TW_BX=0.077, TW_IB=0.077] autolearn=no Received: from menubar.gnome.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (menubar.gnome.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 5msRDSrjN5ry for ; Sat, 30 Jan 2010 21:16:05 +0000 (GMT) Received: from mail-fx0-f227.google.com (mail-fx0-f227.google.com [209.85.220.227]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 305E07501B2 for ; Sat, 30 Jan 2010 21:15:56 +0000 (GMT) Received: by fxm27 with SMTP id 27so547094fxm.23 for ; Sat, 30 Jan 2010 13:15:54 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:date:message-id:subject :from:to:content-type; bh=NCyhtIM9Iq+3GU7TUKJlsjVB4mrs0RT3ygjkeLgsCqQ=; b=YMn6Izm7ZHzhoVwxke/op/UdilEQPb8/R2Y5jvTsBOBQB4laHuXQ85SqC5+cPLp2QH o9V6dDSQiHLtJicOKjUHehSjOnkjW5uD+hUY0ckz2q6jJ8ok8NDZxYVbAwPjRZGcVpJz qkszRRZjl1by/KQdod7pQUIW0O64U3x9uUlxU= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; b=ehcbWC7D9vnFC1G4ANcEqLDPEsaEVL9DVYZ/wYCG8qWR3Q09c2S9+FxVDIgZbolkjn icdyYNAInXy38x2qTPjeVahcN98+l0hn14woiCcVsP9WRKz/tOxkDL+f9vYLiHW5DFk8 eCeKm6C7s6rvwhI7fCD/Sp3s/bT3h0xF2dAog= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.239.134.13 with SMTP id 13mr294446hbx.93.1264886154423; Sat, 30 Jan 2010 13:15:54 -0800 (PST) Date: Sat, 30 Jan 2010 13:15:54 -0800 Message-ID: <3cb1691c1001301315j32fae00frb9407b01989bd43d@mail.gmail.com> Subject: diashapes 0.2.0 From: Steffen Macke To: discussions about usage and development of dia Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 X-BeenThere: dia-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.12 Precedence: list Reply-To: discussions about usage and development of dia List-Id: discussions about usage and development of dia List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 30 Jan 2010 21:16:13 -0000 Hi, I've rewritten diashapes from scratch using Mono. The new version is available from: http://dia-installer.de/diashapes If you have a working diashapes installation, there is no need to upgrade. But the Windows version does not work with the latest libxml2 update included in Dia 0.97.1. What changed: * Smaller Windows installer size * Links to the individual sheet pages allow to preview sheets Regards, Steffen From sdteffen@gmail.com Sun Jan 31 07:04:46 2010 Return-Path: X-Original-To: dia-list@gnome.org Delivered-To: dia-list@gnome.org Received: from localhost (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2DFF675009E for ; Sun, 31 Jan 2010 07:04:46 +0000 (GMT) X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at gnome.org X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -2.599 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.599 tagged_above=-999 required=2 tests=[BAYES_00=-2.599] autolearn=ham Received: from menubar.gnome.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (menubar.gnome.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id zmvlMEr9kPZ5 for ; Sun, 31 Jan 2010 07:04:39 +0000 (GMT) Received: from fg-out-1718.google.com (fg-out-1718.google.com [72.14.220.153]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D456C75009D for ; Sun, 31 Jan 2010 07:04:30 +0000 (GMT) Received: by fg-out-1718.google.com with SMTP id e12so35747fga.9 for ; Sat, 30 Jan 2010 23:04:28 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=xUxZ5SnA+L6akj0RQLA19gnexMj9ldXt6T13s5F9/hc=; b=bAMJbBIbjB3D8sqH/7WNfqP09NFiA2K2C8oYSv/RD9FvBclmFX7Et3A5ug054v0QDU ZYb+8q6abQuGTqTUBR+iF7KNwsZI8/Xo+jNRHlk3lq0Nx0waGWNTfpxPIQPH/WblEnYZ pCFVfgf4sAn26HvDJxbzXvHZABjUoIiik+GCg= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; b=kPDybjfIXiBL6EI5v47rYeWLFSHA6RN/7fZ5aKttp+YwMK5+ohn9VeaecsjWqJsBZH 0liqvNBXwsI35IFkHMsJZy+eXxYBUB9q6HdT+ndmzlseK4hQTkm0bIZJGbGucGXWwQEG ClpTMPBNjFwYOtcyxUWh10NL4JKUvCUt9ao/s= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.239.156.193 with SMTP id n1mr136185hbc.187.1264921468052; Sat, 30 Jan 2010 23:04:28 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: <3cb1691c1001301315j32fae00frb9407b01989bd43d@mail.gmail.com> References: <3cb1691c1001301315j32fae00frb9407b01989bd43d@mail.gmail.com> Date: Sat, 30 Jan 2010 23:04:28 -0800 Message-ID: <3cb1691c1001302304k639ae1b1u55fdd0ee4a1d0e98@mail.gmail.com> Subject: Re: diashapes 0.2.0 From: Steffen Macke To: discussions about usage and development of dia Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 X-BeenThere: dia-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.12 Precedence: list Reply-To: discussions about usage and development of dia List-Id: discussions about usage and development of dia List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 31 Jan 2010 07:04:46 -0000 Hi, The diahapes 0.2.0 installer for Windows used German language by mistake. I've updated it to use English in version 0.2.1. Thanks to Len for telling me about the problem. Sorry for the inconvenience. Get the updated version from http://dia-installer.de/diashapes RPMs and tarball are not affected, there's no need to upgrade those. Regards, Steffen