From jaredljennings@gmail.com Tue Jan 1 22:26:58 2013 Return-Path: X-Original-To: foundation-list@gnome.org Delivered-To: foundation-list@gnome.org Received: from localhost (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5C2C1750083 for ; Tue, 1 Jan 2013 22:26:58 +0000 (UTC) X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at gnome.org X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -2.699 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.699 tagged_above=-999 required=2 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, FREEMAIL_FROM=0.001, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_LOW=-0.7, SPF_PASS=-0.001] autolearn=ham Received: from menubar.gnome.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (menubar.gnome.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id minfGBQT-gle for ; Tue, 1 Jan 2013 22:26:56 +0000 (UTC) Received: from mail-ia0-f175.google.com (mail-ia0-f175.google.com [209.85.210.175]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 667C075001A for ; Tue, 1 Jan 2013 22:26:56 +0000 (UTC) Received: by mail-ia0-f175.google.com with SMTP id z3so11160936iad.6 for ; Tue, 01 Jan 2013 14:27:21 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=x-received:from:content-type:subject:message-id:date:to :mime-version:x-mailer; bh=8ENKpCBcFpHN+UADczB2rV5ESFsMcvVynxhr0TeFQkk=; b=ig0fx0Lc2URWEQHqfzMgKE14UtOsafq87KiCI+Wg96xZfNZGYp69SuAGZjVkTg6uWO 0aj+0Df2LEbtuDWzAiGarsdMULNiSSNlq7bvbtJaMnnF+AHuFm+O3mj42cAxANBOZn6o zxw0spfDXHr2PTCrd8T17y27Of2vDCUImC1q4aW5kn66Uvxv/AFruTLWOh5h9VLb5GzN C6yrj8xxSrE5tn6ReS85uOED50eRk/kpQ6B5Oda06jKCqoKyfrF1ZFpkCykXMRW0zHLQ rfIkxMuGqrlxvG+GhbfSO55Baue/tgctbbXXytF8iXXlMuoDkgt07O/1rd7rIghhu+/+ Qx/A== X-Received: by 10.50.151.238 with SMTP id ut14mr38218754igb.58.1357079240919; Tue, 01 Jan 2013 14:27:20 -0800 (PST) Received: from [172.16.1.13] ([67.143.229.17]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id wg2sm40494726igb.13.2013.01.01.14.27.16 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=OTHER); Tue, 01 Jan 2013 14:27:20 -0800 (PST) From: Jared Jennings Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="Apple-Mail=_36A6C350-016A-4191-9E0A-C5810D1E31B4" Subject: GNOME on Github - Tomboy Message-Id: <5887B9F5-36FC-4B49-BA95-72277E240B90@gmail.com> Date: Tue, 1 Jan 2013 16:27:10 -0600 To: "foundation-list@gnome.org" Mime-Version: 1.0 (Mac OS X Mail 6.2 \(1499\)) X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.1499) X-BeenThere: foundation-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: Discussion relating to the GNOME Foundation List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 01 Jan 2013 22:26:58 -0000 --Apple-Mail=_36A6C350-016A-4191-9E0A-C5810D1E31B4 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Today I found that GNOME is an organization on Github with several = repp's. While I think this is fantastic, several Repo's including Tomboy = are out of date. Regrettably, a few users are cloning and using these = outdated Repo's. 1. Why isn't this being updated. Is it an automatic process? 2. If it is manual, can I get access so that I can keep it updated? 3. I wish GNOME would move to Github, but I know that has been = discussed. I wasn't around and don't need an explanation or any = response. Just poking, I am sure a can of worms :) :) Thanks, Jared Jennings --Apple-Mail=_36A6C350-016A-4191-9E0A-C5810D1E31B4 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Type: text/html; charset=us-ascii Today I found that GNOME is an organization on Github with several repp's. While I think this is fantastic, several Repo's including Tomboy are out of date. Regrettably, a few users are cloning and using these outdated Repo's.

1. Why isn't this being updated. Is it an automatic process?
2. If it is manual, can I get access so that I can keep it updated?
3. I wish GNOME would move to Github, but I know that has been discussed. I wasn't around and don't need an explanation or any response. Just poking, I am sure a can of worms :) :)

Thanks,

Jared Jennings

--Apple-Mail=_36A6C350-016A-4191-9E0A-C5810D1E31B4-- From ak-47@gmx.net Tue Jan 1 23:14:22 2013 Return-Path: X-Original-To: foundation-list@gnome.org Delivered-To: foundation-list@gnome.org Received: from localhost (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 952737500C4 for ; Tue, 1 Jan 2013 23:14:22 +0000 (UTC) X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at gnome.org X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -1.66 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.66 tagged_above=-999 required=2 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, FREEMAIL_ENVFROM_END_DIGIT=0.25, FREEMAIL_FROM=0.001, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE=-0.0001, SPF_PASS=-0.001, T_RP_MATCHES_RCVD=-0.01] autolearn=no Received: from menubar.gnome.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (menubar.gnome.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id z8JTvOq87WYz for ; Tue, 1 Jan 2013 23:14:09 +0000 (UTC) Received: from mout.gmx.net (mout.gmx.net [212.227.15.19]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7B3E1750083 for ; Tue, 1 Jan 2013 23:14:09 +0000 (UTC) Received: from mailout-de.gmx.net ([10.1.76.33]) by mrigmx.server.lan (mrigmx001) with ESMTP (Nemesis) id 0MCNfL-1Th4Ei3mAD-0099gq for ; Wed, 02 Jan 2013 00:14:33 +0100 Received: (qmail invoked by alias); 01 Jan 2013 23:14:33 -0000 Received: from ip-84-42-203-5.net.upcbroadband.cz (EHLO [192.168.1.15]) [84.42.203.5] by mail.gmx.net (mp033) with SMTP; 02 Jan 2013 00:14:33 +0100 X-Authenticated: #726810 X-Provags-ID: V01U2FsdGVkX19xK0oyTC5x/527jO3zTGeUvjgs7htM88HV+FSmz8 L7lFtGf8+4urfR Message-ID: <1357082073.18332.0.camel@embrace.foo> Subject: Re: GNOME on Github - Tomboy From: Andre Klapper To: foundation-list@gnome.org Date: Wed, 02 Jan 2013 00:14:33 +0100 In-Reply-To: <5887B9F5-36FC-4B49-BA95-72277E240B90@gmail.com> References: <5887B9F5-36FC-4B49-BA95-72277E240B90@gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" X-Mailer: Evolution 3.2.3 (3.2.3-3.fc16) Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Y-GMX-Trusted: 0 X-BeenThere: foundation-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: Discussion relating to the GNOME Foundation List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 01 Jan 2013 23:14:22 -0000 On Tue, 2013-01-01 at 16:27 -0600, Jared Jennings wrote: > Today I found that GNOME is an organization on Github with several > repp's. What's the URL? andre -- Andre Klapper | ak-47@gmx.net http://blogs.gnome.org/aklapper/ From arclnx@gmail.com Tue Jan 1 23:32:49 2013 Return-Path: X-Original-To: foundation-list@gnome.org Delivered-To: foundation-list@gnome.org Received: from localhost (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D2B3575001A for ; Tue, 1 Jan 2013 23:32:49 +0000 (UTC) X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at gnome.org X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -2.598 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.598 tagged_above=-999 required=2 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, FREEMAIL_FROM=0.001, HK_RANDOM_ENVFROM=0.001, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_LOW=-0.7, SPF_PASS=-0.001] autolearn=ham Received: from menubar.gnome.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (menubar.gnome.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id p-lcHtgL7SdK for ; Tue, 1 Jan 2013 23:32:34 +0000 (UTC) Received: from mail-ee0-f43.google.com (mail-ee0-f43.google.com [74.125.83.43]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DC6527500C5 for ; Tue, 1 Jan 2013 23:32:33 +0000 (UTC) Received: by mail-ee0-f43.google.com with SMTP id e49so6777559eek.2 for ; Tue, 01 Jan 2013 15:32:58 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:sender:in-reply-to:references:date :x-google-sender-auth:message-id:subject:from:to:cc:content-type; bh=Io6AKmJLj3FctBWNlGFrmaKo5NeKPHpaRS/q8Qdf56s=; b=AqXLNmCqh5lUgeoa+LUnklQ2LaQrRL0YinH6E2Ik1jarTaHTSSwCMdbe0mf569IDnl jiryq2utMUra5hLPzLAZFVxkLH0egraz+I6HFHzcq9MSMKv8WvS7HCTTwhrJmXbfx3+G cyi9u0NWQTfwnd4Dq4p3WGvotR4a8fQbw12WE15lOEeQR0SsEvWYf1lSKWHhsiIBT3yI 4u1MQrf5ZCKOZBrWRvnWR7Kx9G3JSKuwhCFBmivut4zsYpnASWQuZufds5QfyOJZFWEl HxCsPG2b2nqhGKCUFAChfLXNrK/klrGyyc0DhUpSfJbsb2y0fyhVlMXebRuszWygHlGP y7Cw== MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.14.207.195 with SMTP id n43mr119605842eeo.38.1357083178320; Tue, 01 Jan 2013 15:32:58 -0800 (PST) Sender: arclnx@gmail.com Received: by 10.223.178.136 with HTTP; Tue, 1 Jan 2013 15:32:58 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: <1357082073.18332.0.camel@embrace.foo> References: <5887B9F5-36FC-4B49-BA95-72277E240B90@gmail.com> <1357082073.18332.0.camel@embrace.foo> Date: Tue, 1 Jan 2013 23:32:58 +0000 X-Google-Sender-Auth: wBMxMBUo4YH7P9fmpzyGtuFxXZg Message-ID: Subject: Re: GNOME on Github - Tomboy From: Alberto Ruiz To: Andre Klapper Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=047d7b343732c6429b04d2428c7a Cc: foundation-list X-BeenThere: foundation-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: Discussion relating to the GNOME Foundation List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 01 Jan 2013 23:32:50 -0000 --047d7b343732c6429b04d2428c7a Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 The URL is: http://github.com/GNOME And I am the owner, I've been working with the github guys to try to come up with self-hosted mirror that does not need me or anyone running scripts, it was meant to be a surprise but the github guys have been really busy lately. 2013/1/1 Andre Klapper > On Tue, 2013-01-01 at 16:27 -0600, Jared Jennings wrote: > > Today I found that GNOME is an organization on Github with several > > repp's. > > What's the URL? > > andre > -- > Andre Klapper | ak-47@gmx.net > http://blogs.gnome.org/aklapper/ > > _______________________________________________ > foundation-list mailing list > foundation-list@gnome.org > https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/foundation-list > -- Cheers, Alberto Ruiz --047d7b343732c6429b04d2428c7a Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
And I am the owner, I've been worki= ng with the github guys to try to come up with self-hosted mirror that does= not need me or anyone running scripts, it was meant to be a surprise but t= he github guys have been really busy lately.


2013/1/= 1 Andre Klapper <ak-47@gmx.net>
On Tue, 2013-01-01 at 16:27 -0600, Jared Jennings wrote:<= br> > Today I found that GNOME is an organization on Github with several
> repp's.

What's the URL?

andre
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Andre Klapper =A0| =A0ak-47@gmx.net http://blogs= .gnome.org/aklapper/

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foundation-list mailing list
foundation-list@gnome.org<= br> https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/foundation-list



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Cheers,
= Alberto Ruiz --047d7b343732c6429b04d2428c7a-- From behdad.esfahbod@gmail.com Wed Jan 2 00:02:04 2013 Return-Path: X-Original-To: foundation-list@gnome.org Delivered-To: foundation-list@gnome.org Received: from localhost (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1E9E47500C4; Wed, 2 Jan 2013 00:02:04 +0000 (UTC) X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at gnome.org X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -2.6 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.6 tagged_above=-999 required=2 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, FREEMAIL_FROM=0.001, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_LOW=-0.7, SPF_PASS=-0.001] autolearn=ham Received: from menubar.gnome.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (menubar.gnome.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id yWzqHM60K4pQ; Wed, 2 Jan 2013 00:02:01 +0000 (UTC) Received: from mail-ye0-f172.google.com (mail-ye0-f172.google.com [209.85.213.172]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 99E7375001A; Wed, 2 Jan 2013 00:02:01 +0000 (UTC) Received: by mail-ye0-f172.google.com with SMTP id m10so2110170yen.3 for ; Tue, 01 Jan 2013 16:02:26 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=x-received:sender:message-id:date:from:user-agent:mime-version:to :cc:subject:references:in-reply-to:x-enigmail-version:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; bh=sVvUDdzUVoG6bIgQAZh/zCwJuEJh7ugfsKZTQ4XdO1U=; b=fJalcSckxQ0hWTpb1iCVAKBeuQQqfJSrie79KYFbNGuIIa1RwT/smnPdYAwfuZ09y1 UomkD2F9wGE0Lf6mH9zh0AS8MusqMrwVIyDV8+fc/AKnF/gwFo2+OgtnLkuxQIEK2X+D hwlfygTEV8aX7kIP9qD534asKSEBm46iIz3RSSpHp2mBUjvLIQhcTIbZO7Ji3/XQaWgl MH3NZ4MiKluuvMleKOk+5ne/ZxYGPwTFPmX33svXFvmjcEx3/ZyBDW68v+wt3t0Kl+Zb 97Fy3kpfIeBNcU0UBeYORFVjxqAs79N5qoFRYkz5qmUUnRHwVBhovOkwtTN+j1bt12IQ JxAA== X-Received: by 10.236.129.4 with SMTP id g4mr42072698yhi.55.1357084946569; Tue, 01 Jan 2013 16:02:26 -0800 (PST) Received: from [192.168.1.198] ([189.137.23.189]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id g26sm4396342yhi.15.2013.01.01.16.02.24 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=OTHER); Tue, 01 Jan 2013 16:02:25 -0800 (PST) Sender: Behdad Esfahbod Message-ID: <50E3790E.1040206@behdad.org> Date: Tue, 01 Jan 2013 18:02:22 -0600 From: Behdad Esfahbod User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux x86_64; rv:17.0) Gecko/17.0 Thunderbird/17.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Alberto Ruiz Subject: Re: GNOME on Github - Tomboy References: <5887B9F5-36FC-4B49-BA95-72277E240B90@gmail.com> <1357082073.18332.0.camel@embrace.foo> In-Reply-To: X-Enigmail-Version: 1.4.6 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: foundation-list X-BeenThere: foundation-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: Discussion relating to the GNOME Foundation List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 02 Jan 2013 00:02:04 -0000 On 13-01-01 05:32 PM, Alberto Ruiz wrote: > The URL is: http://github.com/GNOME > > And I am the owner, I've been working with the github guys to try to come up > with self-hosted mirror that does not need me or anyone running scripts, it > was meant to be a surprise but the github guys have been really busy lately. +1. Please also do for freedesktop.org repos! > > 2013/1/1 Andre Klapper > > > On Tue, 2013-01-01 at 16:27 -0600, Jared Jennings wrote: > > Today I found that GNOME is an organization on Github with several > > repp's. > > What's the URL? > > andre > -- > Andre Klapper | ak-47@gmx.net > http://blogs.gnome.org/aklapper/ > > _______________________________________________ > foundation-list mailing list > foundation-list@gnome.org > https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/foundation-list > > > > > -- > Cheers, > Alberto Ruiz > > > _______________________________________________ > foundation-list mailing list > foundation-list@gnome.org > https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/foundation-list > -- behdad http://behdad.org/ From jaredljennings@gmail.com Wed Jan 2 00:09:39 2013 Return-Path: X-Original-To: foundation-list@gnome.org Delivered-To: foundation-list@gnome.org Received: from localhost (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7AA457500C4; Wed, 2 Jan 2013 00:09:39 +0000 (UTC) X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at gnome.org X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -2.699 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.699 tagged_above=-999 required=2 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, FREEMAIL_FROM=0.001, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_LOW=-0.7, SPF_PASS=-0.001] autolearn=ham Received: from menubar.gnome.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (menubar.gnome.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id fIjsIA1DvTKE; Wed, 2 Jan 2013 00:09:37 +0000 (UTC) Received: from mail-ia0-f172.google.com (mail-ia0-f172.google.com [209.85.210.172]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8421475001A; Wed, 2 Jan 2013 00:09:37 +0000 (UTC) Received: by mail-ia0-f172.google.com with SMTP id z13so11501557iaz.3 for ; Tue, 01 Jan 2013 16:10:02 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=x-received:content-type:mime-version:subject:from:in-reply-to:date :cc:message-id:references:to:x-mailer; bh=y2G+H2pwkPs2cm/1gWOW2WAD3H6vvJKWlhrI3ceQsTg=; b=KsS2IopZ6ivdN9AN0SoaQUgP4fUh+nDJjBIHzL6lAtGsUYLWQhNQMFGsOzhLykB3Vw 8L/v3BVeFPNhJXilLaTzShIk6d8xWiJz5lRKEKFKauiPnrngUkHxPvO228mdEWb89Vkn nHZEHU5DHxA9tXT6dFjwffgFq/vuN0il0eArMOhhKR7I/hjqAyaNLbab0xqDHtVTj65f 8CSB3RCXU9fLHS7iXJJgAH5wJY8gtliMRkdHml5fYTQdHXAPgEth+BiEIf+ONmXXRNi3 g/1qV4WV5k93b0UUFBpmXlYF0DxNI2EnIEcZTR+CnlzPt3Wzuv32V37vTHYthSZpL34R tvdA== X-Received: by 10.42.101.144 with SMTP id e16mr34200657ico.5.1357085402580; Tue, 01 Jan 2013 16:10:02 -0800 (PST) Received: from [172.16.1.13] ([67.143.229.17]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id fa6sm37095327igb.2.2013.01.01.16.09.56 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=OTHER); Tue, 01 Jan 2013 16:10:02 -0800 (PST) Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="Apple-Mail=_61C7FE65-0DEA-428A-A93A-5C54CF12D208" Mime-Version: 1.0 (Mac OS X Mail 6.2 \(1499\)) Subject: Re: GNOME on Github - Tomboy From: Jared L Jennings In-Reply-To: Date: Tue, 1 Jan 2013 18:09:51 -0600 Message-Id: <89C7523F-B50D-4E6A-849D-664098705283@gmail.com> References: <5887B9F5-36FC-4B49-BA95-72277E240B90@gmail.com> <1357082073.18332.0.camel@embrace.foo> To: Alberto Ruiz X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.1499) Cc: foundation-list X-BeenThere: foundation-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: Discussion relating to the GNOME Foundation List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 02 Jan 2013 00:09:39 -0000 --Apple-Mail=_61C7FE65-0DEA-428A-A93A-5C54CF12D208 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Oops!! Sorry. Jared Jennings On Jan 1, 2013, at 5:32 PM, Alberto Ruiz wrote: > it was meant to be a surprise but the github guys have been really = busy lately. --Apple-Mail=_61C7FE65-0DEA-428A-A93A-5C54CF12D208 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Type: text/html; charset=iso-8859-1 Oops!! Sorry.

Jared Jennings

On Jan 1, 2013, at 5:32 PM, Alberto Ruiz <aruiz@gnome.org> wrote:

it was meant to be a surprise but the github guys have been really busy lately.

--Apple-Mail=_61C7FE65-0DEA-428A-A93A-5C54CF12D208-- From andrew@operationaldynamics.com Wed Jan 2 04:07:25 2013 Return-Path: X-Original-To: foundation-list@gnome.org Delivered-To: foundation-list@gnome.org Received: from localhost (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8A9E37500C9 for ; Wed, 2 Jan 2013 04:07:25 +0000 (UTC) X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at gnome.org X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -1.9 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.9 tagged_above=-999 required=2 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9] autolearn=ham Received: from menubar.gnome.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (menubar.gnome.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id a1lhXZKTaZm4 for ; Wed, 2 Jan 2013 04:07:23 +0000 (UTC) X-Greylist: delayed 596 seconds by postgrey-1.34 at menubar.gnome.org; Wed, 02 Jan 2013 04:07:23 UTC Received: from roomen.pair.com (roomen.pair.com [209.68.1.131]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1166F7500C5 for ; Wed, 2 Jan 2013 04:07:21 +0000 (UTC) Received: from [192.168.253.35] (unknown [150.101.114.203]) by roomen.pair.com (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id EB42D8FED7 for ; Tue, 1 Jan 2013 22:57:50 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: <1357099067.4882.20.camel@turminder-xuss.roaming.operationaldynamics.com> Subject: Re: GNOME on Github - Tomboy From: Andrew Cowie To: foundation-list@gnome.org Date: Wed, 02 Jan 2013 14:57:47 +1100 In-Reply-To: References: <5887B9F5-36FC-4B49-BA95-72277E240B90@gmail.com> <1357082073.18332.0.camel@embrace.foo> Organization: Operational Dynamics Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" X-Mailer: Evolution 3.6.0-0ubuntu3 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-BeenThere: foundation-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: Discussion relating to the GNOME Foundation List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 02 Jan 2013 04:07:25 -0000 On Tue, 2013-01-01 at 23:32 +0000, Alberto Ruiz wrote: > I've been working with the github guys to try to come up with > self-hosted mirror that does not need me or anyone running scripts, it > was meant to be a surprise but the github guys have been really busy > lately. Hey, terrific! Well done for taking the initiative. 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DOmT9ZWijzK0udaeuhXFxyxT3Zk4Yd8DuhwLJZNoqY3kGwYNzql.fqVoY4CE - Received: from [84.125.140.247] by web133203.mail.ir2.yahoo.com via HTTP; Wed, 02 Jan 2013 23:53:25 GMT X-Rocket-MIMEInfo: 001.001, CgoKCgoKLS0tLS0gTWVuc2FqZSBvcmlnaW5hbCAtLS0tLQo.IERlOiBBbmRyZSBLbGFwcGVyIDxhay00N0BnbXgubmV0Pgo.IFBhcmE6IGZvdW5kYXRpb24tbGlzdEBnbm9tZS5vcmcKPiBDQzogCj4gRW52aWFkbzogTHVuZXMgMzEgZGUgZGljaWVtYnJlIGRlIDIwMTIgMTc6MjQKPiBBc3VudG86IFJlOiBHTk9NRSBRdWFydGVybHkgUmVwb3J0cwo.IAo.IE9uIFN1biwgMjAxMi0xMi0xNiBhdCAxMjo0NSArMDEwMCwgRGF2ZSBOZWFyeSB3cm90ZToKPj7CoMKgUGVyaGFwcyBpdCBtZWFucyBvdXIgY3VycmVudCABMAEBAQE- X-Mailer: YahooMailWebService/0.8.129.483 References: <1350240006.13740.26.camel@embrace.foo> <1355586448.30433.0.camel@embrace.foo> <50CDB43F.1000008@gnome.org> <1356971087.24078.15.camel@embrace.foo> Message-ID: <1357170805.54245.YahooMailNeo@web133203.mail.ir2.yahoo.com> Date: Wed, 2 Jan 2013 23:53:25 +0000 (GMT) From: =?iso-8859-1?Q?Juanjo_Mar=EDn?= Subject: Re: GNOME Quarterly Reports To: "foundation-list@gnome.org" In-Reply-To: <1356971087.24078.15.camel@embrace.foo> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-BeenThere: foundation-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list Reply-To: =?iso-8859-1?Q?Juanjo_Mar=EDn?= List-Id: Discussion relating to the GNOME Foundation List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 02 Jan 2013 23:52:59 -0000 =0A=0A=0A=0A=0A=0A----- Mensaje original -----=0A> De: Andre Klapper =0A> Para: foundation-list@gnome.org=0A> CC: =0A> Enviado: Lunes 3= 1 de diciembre de 2012 17:24=0A> Asunto: Re: GNOME Quarterly Reports=0A> = =0A> On Sun, 2012-12-16 at 12:45 +0100, Dave Neary wrote:=0A>>=A0=A0Perhaps= it means our current way =0A>>=A0=A0of doing them is not successful, and w= e need to try something else.=0A> =0A> So in case anybody wants to assemble= what's going on and present it in a=0A> better way, I am happy to help out= .=0A> =0A> Currently I don't plan to send out further calls for quarterly r= eports=0A> (as it would be the case again tomorrow).=0A> =0Athere is a mism= atching between=0A=0AHi,=0A=0AI personally think that the major drawback is= that there is a mismatch between the quarterly reports and our release sch= eme. IMHO, it would be easier if we adapt our reports to the our release sc= heduler. One of the inmediate advantages of this can be that can be used fo= r writing the release notes more accurately in time. I think a quarterly re= ports can be thought as a sort of logs of the work developed by the teams i= n every release. And I think they should be updated everytime a new milesto= ne has been reached.=0A=0A=0AJust my two cents,=0A=0A=A0=A0 -- Juanjo Marin= =0A From andrew@operationaldynamics.com Thu Jan 3 00:49:31 2013 Return-Path: X-Original-To: foundation-list@gnome.org Delivered-To: foundation-list@gnome.org Received: from localhost (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A13197500E9 for ; Thu, 3 Jan 2013 00:49:31 +0000 (UTC) X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at gnome.org X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -1.9 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.9 tagged_above=-999 required=2 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9] autolearn=ham Received: from menubar.gnome.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (menubar.gnome.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id OkqlxIkzJisv for ; Thu, 3 Jan 2013 00:49:30 +0000 (UTC) Received: from roomen.pair.com (roomen.pair.com [209.68.1.131]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 03C727500BF for ; Thu, 3 Jan 2013 00:49:29 +0000 (UTC) Received: from [192.168.253.35] (unknown [150.101.114.203]) by roomen.pair.com (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 4EEB78FEDA for ; Wed, 2 Jan 2013 19:49:57 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: <1357174189.4160.3.camel@turminder-xuss.roaming.operationaldynamics.com> Subject: Re: GNOME Quarterly Reports From: Andrew Cowie To: foundation-list@gnome.org Date: Thu, 03 Jan 2013 11:49:49 +1100 In-Reply-To: <1357170805.54245.YahooMailNeo@web133203.mail.ir2.yahoo.com> References: <1350240006.13740.26.camel@embrace.foo> <1355586448.30433.0.camel@embrace.foo> <50CDB43F.1000008@gnome.org> <1356971087.24078.15.camel@embrace.foo> <1357170805.54245.YahooMailNeo@web133203.mail.ir2.yahoo.com> Organization: Operational Dynamics Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg="pgp-sha256"; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="=-ZQoDlqvsdjXgv+NfOsDZ" X-Mailer: Evolution 3.6.0-0ubuntu3 Mime-Version: 1.0 X-BeenThere: foundation-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: Discussion relating to the GNOME Foundation List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 03 Jan 2013 00:49:31 -0000 --=-ZQoDlqvsdjXgv+NfOsDZ Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Wed, 2013-01-02 at 23:53 +0000, Juanjo Mar=C3=ADn wrote: > I personally think that the major drawback is that there is a mismatch > between the quarterly reports and our release scheme. Rather than being a PR exercise, the quarterly report could be recast as, alternately, a formal progress report ~2 months before release (highlighting areas of urgent concern), and then a review ~1 month after (observing what worked and what didn't in well enough time to make adjustments next cycle). We have a lot of structure in our release process, but defined occasions to discuss progress might be a good addition. AfC Sydney --=-ZQoDlqvsdjXgv+NfOsDZ Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name="signature.asc" Content-Description: This is a digitally signed message part Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.11 (GNU/Linux) iQIcBAABCAAGBQJQ5NWtAAoJENUAEPtctIrqeOkP/3Ay/R0B4915peazPp8XQOsu sad2/do8q66q+X0ohI0zB8/6niiO9srFhtgJMpNbADyWp9LOlgfwutribEeCjTV8 i3Zuaw6Ad7xDei7C4CI76PoSWTlxN9rG1ANNqAt96cgQpy9dHek7IzP7q13g9uGy jOwK10vFFjcfkR9qNGEdACtU2BFJKPI7mUdxdPdURvsE7mdRhRMQLvQ5UwM4dTkA Rcmb1Hfz35A7i6MeBFRyzKwTzBhxxJOZaL3/ExEwYFxUujspzJgEc/1+Wb3/8Y54 lbzsibduNsdAx+JPi0/ZbOXT1cjMuwrZ923punHszfdggo+XhptfaJnW1YMH4MEX XmwC64cwNotv4I1esUdKgOfk4fwulkKVdQ/mPky+OeJB5PLR/yI2K/lK+/Vq4AkK JbB07A/6AlNT0hnMysbzJ7hg5ZhmH2qUNpiGQ3HhkQC9E+6OnA5Yr/KA9/TUErIe pPwhbXCmWlo8i3OYpYK5wE41OxYyK//N+CSIhRmrlfsq3x8u4H+h6in6sAa7CQx2 zfaf/DgxIdRNozgNbEQP02Kd5lZmUMV8ibokYcXhhNJntKRRgSVXzj8mrQCyavDz Og7Z/khcVXnKOJ5PwKnYo+kY5/R2CWLQpT0z/mLiDG6cM/+f5UCbc651ib1b+VO1 ZvFz1YJuxIRfjT94u74v =Uufg -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --=-ZQoDlqvsdjXgv+NfOsDZ-- From karen@gnome.org Thu Jan 3 05:28:07 2013 Return-Path: X-Original-To: foundation-list@gnome.org Delivered-To: foundation-list@gnome.org Received: from localhost (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7565175017D for ; Thu, 3 Jan 2013 05:28:07 +0000 (UTC) X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at gnome.org X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -3.421 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-3.421 tagged_above=-999 required=2 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_MED=-2.3, SPF_NEUTRAL=0.779] autolearn=ham Received: from menubar.gnome.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (menubar.gnome.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id QdOiQJmh1Fa5 for ; Thu, 3 Jan 2013 05:28:06 +0000 (UTC) Received: from pure.motives.com (pure.motives.com [207.192.71.45]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DCBF2750156 for ; Thu, 3 Jan 2013 05:28:05 +0000 (UTC) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by pure.motives.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1AC0384091; Thu, 3 Jan 2013 00:28:35 -0500 (EST) Received: from pure.motives.com ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (pure.motives.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 2Izwb-HSLj3P; Thu, 3 Jan 2013 00:28:34 -0500 (EST) Received: from secure.motives.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by pure.motives.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 311488408F; Thu, 3 Jan 2013 00:28:34 -0500 (EST) Received: from 184.152.52.83 (SquirrelMail authenticated user karen) by secure.motives.com with HTTP; Thu, 3 Jan 2013 00:28:34 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: <40e0c25975d452b55350af91ff24b57d.squirrel@secure.motives.com> In-Reply-To: <1357174189.4160.3.camel@turminder-xuss.roaming.operationaldynamics.co m> References: <1350240006.13740.26.camel@embrace.foo> <1355586448.30433.0.camel@embrace.foo> <50CDB43F.1000008@gnome.org> <1356971087.24078.15.camel@embrace.foo> <1357170805.54245.YahooMailNeo@web133203.mail.ir2.yahoo.com> <1357174189.4160.3.camel@turminder-xuss.roaming.operationaldynamics.com> Date: Thu, 3 Jan 2013 00:28:34 -0500 (EST) Subject: Re: GNOME Quarterly Reports From: "Karen Sandler" To: "Andrew Cowie" User-Agent: SquirrelMail/1.4.15 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain;charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Importance: Normal Cc: foundation-list@gnome.org X-BeenThere: foundation-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list Reply-To: karen@gnome.org List-Id: Discussion relating to the GNOME Foundation List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 03 Jan 2013 05:28:07 -0000 On Wed, January 2, 2013 7:49 pm, Andrew Cowie wrote: > On Wed, 2013-01-02 at 23:53 +0000, Juanjo MarĂ­n wrote: > >> I personally think that the major drawback is that there is a mismatch >> between the quarterly reports and our release scheme. > > Rather than being a PR exercise, the quarterly report could be recast > as, alternately, a formal progress report ~2 months before release > (highlighting areas of urgent concern), and then a review ~1 month after > (observing what worked and what didn't in well enough time to make > adjustments next cycle). > > We have a lot of structure in our release process, but defined occasions > to discuss progress might be a good addition. I love the idea of tying the reports to our release cycle. Some areas, like events, don't fall on this cycle, but so long as there is a concrete cycle to compile this information I think it doesn't really matter. Quarterly reports as we've had them have often been confusing timing-wise anyway since the Foundation's fiscal year is not the same as the calendar year. I've found the quarterly reports very useful in my work for pulling together information quickly to provide to others across the different parts of GNOME, so I'd really love to see them continue. If bringing them closer to the release schedule makes more sense and has the potential to make them more useful, then we should do it! karen From membership-committee@gnome.org Thu Jan 3 10:50:52 2013 Return-Path: X-Original-To: foundation-list@gnome.org Delivered-To: foundation-list@gnome.org Received: from localhost (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2C60D750207 for ; Thu, 3 Jan 2013 10:50:52 +0000 (UTC) X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at gnome.org X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -2.823 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.823 tagged_above=-999 required=2 tests=[ALL_TRUSTED=-1, BAYES_00=-1.9, TW_MK=0.077] autolearn=ham Received: from menubar.gnome.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (menubar.gnome.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id W-Yo9lr3-vqT for ; Thu, 3 Jan 2013 10:50:50 +0000 (UTC) Received: from window.gnome.org (window-back [172.31.1.13]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 824687501C9 for ; Thu, 3 Jan 2013 10:50:50 +0000 (UTC) Received: from window.gnome.org (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by window.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E9D446CC456 for ; 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From: Colin Walters To: foundation-list@gnome.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Date: Fri, 04 Jan 2013 19:59:35 -0500 Message-ID: <1357347575.14851.99.camel@localhost> Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Evolution 2.28.3 (2.28.3-27.el6) Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-BeenThere: foundation-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: Discussion relating to the GNOME Foundation List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 05 Jan 2013 00:59:19 -0000 Hi, From: http://upsilon.cc/~zack/blog/posts/2013/01/bits_from_the_DPL_for_December_2012/ Debian has an offer from Amazon to get $8,000 USD of credit - any chance we could do the same? With an estimated $200/month I could easily maintain multiple full time autobuilders (gnome-ostree, mingw32-cross builds of GTK+, jhbuild, etc.) Just one heavy utilization Large reserved instance on a 1 year term is $62/month. There'd only be some small bits to figure out when deploying builders on AWS - mainly we'd need a way to have the build servers authenticate against the GNOME servers (likely just publishing a list of authorized public ssh keys via HTTPS). From karen@gnome.org Sat Jan 5 03:44:29 2013 Return-Path: X-Original-To: foundation-list@gnome.org Delivered-To: foundation-list@gnome.org Received: from localhost (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 26ECD75024E for ; Sat, 5 Jan 2013 03:44:29 +0000 (UTC) X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at gnome.org X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -3.421 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-3.421 tagged_above=-999 required=2 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_MED=-2.3, SPF_NEUTRAL=0.779] autolearn=ham Received: from menubar.gnome.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (menubar.gnome.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id eSbzj+tze0tS for ; Sat, 5 Jan 2013 03:44:26 +0000 (UTC) Received: from pure.motives.com (pure.motives.com [207.192.71.45]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7184C7500BF for ; Sat, 5 Jan 2013 03:44:25 +0000 (UTC) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by pure.motives.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2342A84093; Fri, 4 Jan 2013 22:44:58 -0500 (EST) Received: from pure.motives.com ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (pure.motives.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id ZHoIcQ6-K87X; Fri, 4 Jan 2013 22:44:57 -0500 (EST) Received: from secure.motives.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by pure.motives.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id B5EF584090; Fri, 4 Jan 2013 22:44:56 -0500 (EST) Received: from 184.152.52.83 (SquirrelMail authenticated user karen) by secure.motives.com with HTTP; Fri, 4 Jan 2013 22:44:56 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: <35aae7c1d1dd4b1f55b4930bac551137.squirrel@secure.motives.com> In-Reply-To: <1357347575.14851.99.camel@localhost> References: <1357347575.14851.99.camel@localhost> Date: Fri, 4 Jan 2013 22:44:56 -0500 (EST) Subject: Re: Reaching out to Amazon for credit? From: "Karen Sandler" To: "Colin Walters" User-Agent: SquirrelMail/1.4.15 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain;charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Importance: Normal Cc: foundation-list@gnome.org X-BeenThere: foundation-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list Reply-To: karen@gnome.org List-Id: Discussion relating to the GNOME Foundation List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 05 Jan 2013 03:44:30 -0000 On Fri, January 4, 2013 7:59 pm, Colin Walters wrote: > Hi, > > From: > http://upsilon.cc/~zack/blog/posts/2013/01/bits_from_the_DPL_for_December_2012/ > > Debian has an offer from Amazon to get $8,000 USD of credit - any chance > we could do the same? Thanks for pointing this out! I'll talk to zack and see how it's best for us to reach out to Amazon :) karen > > With an estimated $200/month I could easily maintain multiple full time > autobuilders (gnome-ostree, mingw32-cross builds of GTK+, jhbuild, etc.) > Just one heavy utilization Large reserved instance on a 1 year term is > $62/month. > > There'd only be some small bits to figure out when deploying builders on > AWS - mainly we'd need a way to have the build servers authenticate > against the GNOME servers (likely just publishing a list of authorized > public ssh keys via HTTPS). > > > > _______________________________________________ > foundation-list mailing list > foundation-list@gnome.org > https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/foundation-list > From arclnx@gmail.com Sat Jan 5 05:52:25 2013 Return-Path: X-Original-To: foundation-list@gnome.org Delivered-To: foundation-list@gnome.org Received: from localhost (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 493E075024E; Sat, 5 Jan 2013 05:52:25 +0000 (UTC) X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at gnome.org X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -2.598 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.598 tagged_above=-999 required=2 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, FREEMAIL_FROM=0.001, HK_RANDOM_ENVFROM=0.001, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_LOW=-0.7, SPF_PASS=-0.001] autolearn=ham Received: from menubar.gnome.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (menubar.gnome.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 3-NewkGGI4Z5; Sat, 5 Jan 2013 05:52:12 +0000 (UTC) Received: from mail-ee0-f53.google.com (mail-ee0-f53.google.com [74.125.83.53]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7F25C7500BF; Sat, 5 Jan 2013 05:52:11 +0000 (UTC) Received: by mail-ee0-f53.google.com with SMTP id c50so8227750eek.12 for ; Fri, 04 Jan 2013 21:52:43 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:sender:in-reply-to:references:date :x-google-sender-auth:message-id:subject:from:to:cc:content-type; bh=dQsoKmDDB1P2rnz47Eit6wjmZG7zeSWQJhixK8I8etQ=; b=ajdCMJZFmTI+M50lwsQrgEqayBj3VOR+/igUzabxcLJqKfOh4x0uogUrgrCK2u4VyG 8tWLcMqGUJkBmD9JnewFWo7geBRVg2OArly4ewTY/BRBCmzfkOYMk0BacEoPSpMNG2si 6Z2oDSVjqUvTKA5NqigXe+ZsShR5z2HnhRUVv79MwgiZ0OVMl+PC2Ev5xQPjsWnMeoVX tV/obZ/52BPysixRxnD4TmxrTlSN3zew7G6hDGBC8wIGF1e0F4jpd3n28w05OSjEoNkk Np0nHXiclyOmvR9LkAxD/uH1jDyv57x77+mN47qG4PRsCSXAmr6tP1piohl7/qipVoWE nT/g== MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.14.194.195 with SMTP id m43mr150050553een.44.1357365162959; Fri, 04 Jan 2013 21:52:42 -0800 (PST) Sender: arclnx@gmail.com Received: by 10.223.178.136 with HTTP; Fri, 4 Jan 2013 21:52:42 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: <35aae7c1d1dd4b1f55b4930bac551137.squirrel@secure.motives.com> References: <1357347575.14851.99.camel@localhost> <35aae7c1d1dd4b1f55b4930bac551137.squirrel@secure.motives.com> Date: Sat, 5 Jan 2013 05:52:42 +0000 X-Google-Sender-Auth: M34XeN4SlFv3c1VeSJRL_H8hMNE Message-ID: Subject: Re: Reaching out to Amazon for credit? From: Alberto Ruiz To: Karen Sandler Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=047d7b342c4c5e644004d2843450 Cc: foundation-list X-BeenThere: foundation-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: Discussion relating to the GNOME Foundation List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 05 Jan 2013 05:52:25 -0000 --047d7b342c4c5e644004d2843450 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 I wouldn't discard rackspace, they have been quite keen to sponsor Ubuntu in many ways. Plus they support and fund OpenStack instead of their proprietary AWS cloud platform. 2013/1/5 Karen Sandler > On Fri, January 4, 2013 7:59 pm, Colin Walters wrote: > > Hi, > > > > From: > > > http://upsilon.cc/~zack/blog/posts/2013/01/bits_from_the_DPL_for_December_2012/ > > > > Debian has an offer from Amazon to get $8,000 USD of credit - any chance > > we could do the same? > > Thanks for pointing this out! I'll talk to zack and see how it's best for > us to reach out to Amazon :) > > karen > > > > > > With an estimated $200/month I could easily maintain multiple full time > > autobuilders (gnome-ostree, mingw32-cross builds of GTK+, jhbuild, etc.) > > Just one heavy utilization Large reserved instance on a 1 year term is > > $62/month. > > > > There'd only be some small bits to figure out when deploying builders on > > AWS - mainly we'd need a way to have the build servers authenticate > > against the GNOME servers (likely just publishing a list of authorized > > public ssh keys via HTTPS). > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > foundation-list mailing list > > foundation-list@gnome.org > > https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/foundation-list > > > > > _______________________________________________ > foundation-list mailing list > foundation-list@gnome.org > https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/foundation-list > -- Cheers, Alberto Ruiz --047d7b342c4c5e644004d2843450 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
I wouldn't discard rackspace, they have been quite kee= n to sponsor Ubuntu in many ways. Plus they support and fund OpenStack inst= ead of their proprietary AWS cloud platform.


2013/1/5 Karen Sandler <karen@gnome.org>
On Fri, January 4, 2013 7:59 pm, Colin Walters wrote:
> Hi,
>
> From:
> http://upsilon.cc/~zack/blog/posts/= 2013/01/bits_from_the_DPL_for_December_2012/
>
> Debian has an offer from Amazon to get $8,000 USD of credit - any chan= ce
> we could do the same?

Thanks for pointing this out! I'll talk to zack and see how it= 9;s best for
us to reach out to Amazon :)

karen


>
> With an estimated $200/month I could easily maintain multiple full tim= e
> autobuilders (gnome-ostree, mingw32-cross builds of GTK+, jhbuild, etc= .)
> Just one heavy utilization Large reserved instance on a 1 year term is=
> $62/month.
>
> There'd only be some small bits to figure out when deploying build= ers on
> AWS - mainly we'd need a way to have the build servers authenticat= e
> against the GNOME servers (likely just publishing a list of authorized=
> public ssh keys via HTTPS).
>
>
>
> _______________________________________________
> foundation-list mailing list
> foundation-list@gnome.org=
> https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/foundation-list=
>


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--
= Cheers,
Alberto Ruiz
--047d7b342c4c5e644004d2843450-- From walters@verbum.org Sat Jan 5 15:23:40 2013 Return-Path: X-Original-To: foundation-list@gnome.org Delivered-To: foundation-list@gnome.org Received: from localhost (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BFB2F75030C; Sat, 5 Jan 2013 15:23:40 +0000 (UTC) X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at gnome.org X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -2.6 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.6 tagged_above=-999 required=2 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_LOW=-0.7] autolearn=ham Received: from menubar.gnome.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (menubar.gnome.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id qjxsVC6vPGzT; Sat, 5 Jan 2013 15:23:26 +0000 (UTC) Received: from out4-smtp.messagingengine.com (out4-smtp.messagingengine.com [66.111.4.28]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A5C2E750268; Sat, 5 Jan 2013 15:23:26 +0000 (UTC) Received: from compute2.internal (compute2.nyi.mail.srv.osa [10.202.2.42]) by gateway1.nyi.mail.srv.osa (Postfix) with ESMTP id EA85A2085E; Sat, 5 Jan 2013 10:23:58 -0500 (EST) Received: from frontend1.nyi.mail.srv.osa ([10.202.2.160]) by compute2.internal (MEProxy); Sat, 05 Jan 2013 10:23:58 -0500 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha1; c=relaxed/relaxed; d= messagingengine.com; h=subject:from:to:cc:in-reply-to:references :content-type:date:message-id:mime-version :content-transfer-encoding; s=smtpout; bh=q+ZvtFJv0jGXclq9DEg0zD fddKk=; b=VYUVw4+9uADT7/y5ihGWmXAyUsDsNjJL4FhuWX8+tNYseEyAuO93Ix A2KGVFuitykmQjfMfePkuVGNy4XH5Dw6TbkztmwkPGN/bQZVNotNc3Q1+5kB0U31 obi3CujFx2C+b2kFOtMsOvTlVAE5KXAnJsdkW5gevbiSqhFuliLJY= X-Sasl-enc: Bdd8f2VWRRUmw10tjVU8JkYjOrFq5/CLHGUZW4oSuiWZ 1357399438 Received: from [192.168.1.6] (unknown [50.138.225.153]) by mail.messagingengine.com (Postfix) with ESMTPA id 905198E0762; Sat, 5 Jan 2013 10:23:58 -0500 (EST) Subject: Re: Reaching out to Amazon for credit? From: Colin Walters To: Alberto Ruiz In-Reply-To: References: <1357347575.14851.99.camel@localhost> <35aae7c1d1dd4b1f55b4930bac551137.squirrel@secure.motives.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Date: Sat, 05 Jan 2013 10:23:57 -0500 Message-ID: <1357399437.14851.103.camel@localhost> Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Evolution 2.28.3 (2.28.3-27.el6) Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: foundation-list X-BeenThere: foundation-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: Discussion relating to the GNOME Foundation List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 05 Jan 2013 15:23:41 -0000 On Sat, 2013-01-05 at 05:52 +0000, Alberto Ruiz wrote: > I wouldn't discard rackspace, they have been quite keen to sponsor > Ubuntu in many ways. Plus they support and fund OpenStack instead of > their proprietary AWS cloud platform. True! Rackspace would be great as well, and I do agree that it's a lot more in line with GNOME's mission to support Free Software. From jaredljennings@gmail.com Sat Jan 5 17:28:38 2013 Return-Path: X-Original-To: foundation-list@gnome.org Delivered-To: foundation-list@gnome.org Received: from localhost (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A5C5C7502E0; Sat, 5 Jan 2013 17:28:38 +0000 (UTC) X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at gnome.org X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -2.7 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.7 tagged_above=-999 required=2 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, FREEMAIL_FROM=0.001, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_LOW=-0.7, SPF_PASS=-0.001] autolearn=ham Received: from menubar.gnome.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (menubar.gnome.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id DpxX87HqGWv5; Sat, 5 Jan 2013 17:28:36 +0000 (UTC) Received: from mail-yh0-f45.google.com (mail-yh0-f45.google.com [209.85.213.45]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0D47B7502D8; Sat, 5 Jan 2013 17:28:35 +0000 (UTC) Received: by mail-yh0-f45.google.com with SMTP id f64so884598yha.18 for ; Sat, 05 Jan 2013 09:29:08 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=x-received:content-type:mime-version:subject:from:in-reply-to:date :cc:content-transfer-encoding:message-id:references:to:x-mailer; bh=6miC5GemHEPmlLjiOGUv3G6t8qlHwgZjeXKS5Al+J0M=; b=TAM1bjZhsHeb86AkgBwOPwjlh1LKDRPZHfrjIgRIFiuWOAF3wib5J4UYSJeY+Nchyg YVthv1qq+PdmtxwvluUTatCKFH3DwXQkxIpxcqJbnZtZ2qH/QdxuBGsY0RpSfuzjJ/LG gGAX417PmqG19N7of6xqgsD7pcCnviN8rMMwVjJOOWmSGepgZzGLTOWreyLuUh153Wm3 nKXOQTs66ny4GR32fYn0JD1+6lKJpPPlEOceJBOcEANnptQxRGULVtcnyfWRbNvRu33k uwD/BvnQVQPH0P/OKrebI2FPiXouFA5lFdawfvT6HOv2j+7cqEMgB0BieEjVc2BjGPlV yl8Q== X-Received: by 10.236.176.41 with SMTP id a29mr59579727yhm.17.1357406948532; Sat, 05 Jan 2013 09:29:08 -0800 (PST) Received: from [192.168.43.106] ([32.147.225.216]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id w1sm52195348anl.5.2013.01.05.09.29.06 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=OTHER); Sat, 05 Jan 2013 09:29:07 -0800 (PST) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Mime-Version: 1.0 (Mac OS X Mail 6.2 \(1499\)) Subject: Re: Reaching out to Amazon for credit? From: Jared L Jennings In-Reply-To: <1357399437.14851.103.camel@localhost> Date: Sat, 5 Jan 2013 11:29:04 -0600 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Message-Id: References: <1357347575.14851.99.camel@localhost> <35aae7c1d1dd4b1f55b4930bac551137.squirrel@secure.motives.com> <1357399437.14851.103.camel@localhost> To: Colin Walters X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.1499) Cc: foundation-list X-BeenThere: foundation-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: Discussion relating to the GNOME Foundation List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 05 Jan 2013 17:28:38 -0000 I would +1 this. I know a couple people at RS too. (Not the right = people, but maybe they could help if we need a contact) Jared Jennings On Jan 5, 2013, at 9:23 AM, Colin Walters wrote: > On Sat, 2013-01-05 at 05:52 +0000, Alberto Ruiz wrote: >> I wouldn't discard rackspace, they have been quite keen to sponsor >> Ubuntu in many ways. Plus they support and fund OpenStack instead of >> their proprietary AWS cloud platform. >=20 > True! Rackspace would be great as well, and I do agree that it's a = lot > more in line with GNOME's mission to support Free Software. From karen@gnome.org Sat Jan 5 20:03:28 2013 Return-Path: X-Original-To: foundation-list@gnome.org Delivered-To: foundation-list@gnome.org Received: from localhost (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 580697502CF for ; Sat, 5 Jan 2013 20:03:28 +0000 (UTC) X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at gnome.org X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -3.421 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-3.421 tagged_above=-999 required=2 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_MED=-2.3, SPF_NEUTRAL=0.779] autolearn=ham Received: from menubar.gnome.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (menubar.gnome.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id WKJUJj2lMdkY for ; Sat, 5 Jan 2013 20:03:14 +0000 (UTC) Received: from pure.motives.com (pure.motives.com [207.192.71.45]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 101E4750268 for ; Sat, 5 Jan 2013 20:03:13 +0000 (UTC) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by pure.motives.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7EECB84096; Sat, 5 Jan 2013 15:03:46 -0500 (EST) Received: from pure.motives.com ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (pure.motives.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id jIvGyTnZeNZz; Sat, 5 Jan 2013 15:03:44 -0500 (EST) Received: from secure.motives.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by pure.motives.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9162B8408D; Sat, 5 Jan 2013 15:03:44 -0500 (EST) Received: from 184.152.52.83 (SquirrelMail authenticated user karen) by secure.motives.com with HTTP; Sat, 5 Jan 2013 15:03:44 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: <272ea7d2c5ec060a8d25265c3c975f23.squirrel@secure.motives.com> In-Reply-To: References: <1357347575.14851.99.camel@localhost> <35aae7c1d1dd4b1f55b4930bac551137.squirrel@secure.motives.com> <1357399437.14851.103.camel@localhost> Date: Sat, 5 Jan 2013 15:03:44 -0500 (EST) Subject: Re: Reaching out to Amazon for credit? From: "Karen Sandler" To: "Jared L Jennings" User-Agent: SquirrelMail/1.4.15 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain;charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Importance: Normal Cc: foundation-list X-BeenThere: foundation-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list Reply-To: karen@gnome.org List-Id: Discussion relating to the GNOME Foundation List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 05 Jan 2013 20:03:28 -0000 On Sat, January 5, 2013 12:29 pm, Jared L Jennings wrote: > I would +1 this. I know a couple people at RS too. (Not the right people, > but maybe they could help if we need a contact) Great! I should have said that we'd proceed with caution with Amazon anyway :) I'll follow up with you off the list to see if we know the same people. karen > Jared Jennings > > On Jan 5, 2013, at 9:23 AM, Colin Walters wrote: > >> On Sat, 2013-01-05 at 05:52 +0000, Alberto Ruiz wrote: >>> I wouldn't discard rackspace, they have been quite keen to sponsor >>> Ubuntu in many ways. Plus they support and fund OpenStack instead of >>> their proprietary AWS cloud platform. >> >> True! Rackspace would be great as well, and I do agree that it's a lot >> more in line with GNOME's mission to support Free Software. > > _______________________________________________ > foundation-list mailing list > foundation-list@gnome.org > https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/foundation-list > From rms@gnu.org Sun Jan 6 02:17:14 2013 Return-Path: X-Original-To: foundation-list@gnome.org Delivered-To: foundation-list@gnome.org Received: from localhost (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 063CA7502E5; Sun, 6 Jan 2013 02:17:14 +0000 (UTC) X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at gnome.org X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -6.9 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-6.9 tagged_above=-999 required=2 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_HI=-5, RP_MATCHES_RCVD=0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001] autolearn=ham Received: from menubar.gnome.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (menubar.gnome.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id VwXsZUli2QAL; Sun, 6 Jan 2013 02:17:01 +0000 (UTC) Received: from fencepost.gnu.org (fencepost.gnu.org [208.118.235.10]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C4AD37502CF; Sun, 6 Jan 2013 02:17:00 +0000 (UTC) Received: from rms by fencepost.gnu.org with local (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1Trfnq-0003AH-1q; Sat, 05 Jan 2013 21:17:34 -0500 Date: Sat, 05 Jan 2013 21:17:34 -0500 Message-Id: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-15 From: Richard Stallman To: Alberto Ruiz In-reply-to: (message from Alberto Ruiz on Sat, 5 Jan 2013 05:52:42 +0000) Subject: Re: Reaching out to Amazon for credit? References: <1357347575.14851.99.camel@localhost> <35aae7c1d1dd4b1f55b4930bac551137.squirrel@secure.motives.com> Cc: foundation-list@gnome.org X-BeenThere: foundation-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list Reply-To: rms@gnu.org List-Id: Discussion relating to the GNOME Foundation List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 06 Jan 2013 02:17:14 -0000 I wouldn't discard rackspace, they have been quite keen to sponsor Ubuntu in many ways. Ubuntu is pretty bad (see http://www.gnu.org/philosophy/ubuntu-spyware.html) but we should not hold that against Rackspace. -- Dr Richard Stallman President, Free Software Foundation 51 Franklin St Boston MA 02110 USA www.fsf.org www.gnu.org Skype: No way! That's nonfree (freedom-denying) software. Use Ekiga or an ordinary phone call From arclnx@gmail.com Sun Jan 6 05:32:57 2013 Return-Path: X-Original-To: foundation-list@gnome.org Delivered-To: foundation-list@gnome.org Received: from localhost (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A8C26750332; Sun, 6 Jan 2013 05:32:57 +0000 (UTC) X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at gnome.org X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -2.599 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.599 tagged_above=-999 required=2 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, FREEMAIL_FROM=0.001, HK_RANDOM_ENVFROM=0.001, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_LOW=-0.7, SPF_PASS=-0.001] autolearn=ham Received: from menubar.gnome.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (menubar.gnome.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id mqw28J4yD24j; Sun, 6 Jan 2013 05:32:55 +0000 (UTC) Received: from mail-ee0-f43.google.com (mail-ee0-f43.google.com [74.125.83.43]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9708D750317; Sun, 6 Jan 2013 05:32:53 +0000 (UTC) Received: by mail-ee0-f43.google.com with SMTP id e49so8931568eek.16 for ; Sat, 05 Jan 2013 21:33:27 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:sender:in-reply-to:references:date :x-google-sender-auth:message-id:subject:from:to:cc:content-type; bh=NETrkhljvvkkSdumlPSOxiwIaMR34ZAeIGRf/AkTOXI=; b=u+OqtHsOl91k6WgpA/ik2TAcjFTBZ+TSu/sa7Yl6lsoVdJz8Tnq1wAFbHSqtz5fSVB tM7fy88jkBuWqV+50zcC2I0m5DTykl9J5ZWQYQWs1lZVXHe91Qfxtnd1OSNMd3TXdgBA 66a2xLaYuZ33lvoqN7xj5083hSIho18KNN0koxwDF+f0FEs7qx7dnTMbmRVVhqEqaiOK hWaWIqrLIq3NN4Ve867YceuJiX19HN5tJipa5tOBhxOR/QdguF3GMw+40vJK5LZD37HE BcyNi/NMYP/w+/RsRk2bNhb9NXquIc0nic42DmWBQrjQrc0c3UiWnBA4GWF8o7Y+LNHC 4SiA== MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.14.173.65 with SMTP id u41mr156469319eel.13.1357450407523; Sat, 05 Jan 2013 21:33:27 -0800 (PST) Sender: arclnx@gmail.com Received: by 10.223.178.136 with HTTP; Sat, 5 Jan 2013 21:33:27 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: References: <1357347575.14851.99.camel@localhost> <35aae7c1d1dd4b1f55b4930bac551137.squirrel@secure.motives.com> Date: Sun, 6 Jan 2013 05:33:27 +0000 X-Google-Sender-Auth: cPC7JzuvYflaO4P2lw3dRvKM7lE Message-ID: Subject: Re: Reaching out to Amazon for credit? From: Alberto Ruiz To: rms@gnu.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Cc: foundation-list X-BeenThere: foundation-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: Discussion relating to the GNOME Foundation List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 06 Jan 2013 05:32:57 -0000 Richard, I would appreciate if you didn't try to use every single opportunity that you had to speak negatively about other projects, specially projects that actually help to get free software to a wider audience, even if it's not in your puristic view. I understand that you have concerns about the newest additions to Unity in terms of purchases, but Ubuntu is a wide free software project with different "flavors" (most of which do not include Unity) and with a wide variety of contributors, some work for Canonical, some don't, there's a lot of people within the Ubuntu community that may even agree with you on this. But it is unfair to diminish every single Ubuntu contributor and every positive aspect of the distro just because you don't like a particular decision or aspect, which happens to be optional by the way. But it's not your opinion about Ubuntu what concerns me. I disagree with the way the FSF and yourself as a public figure promote its values and goals (mostly through negative anti-something campaigns), and quite frankly I see it more focused on asking people to remove Windows and Mac OS X than giving them reasons to install free software on its own merits. It gives people the notion that we (free software advocates) are a bunch of grumpy people who all they are trying to do is discredit Microsoft and Apple and convince people that saying just Linux and not GNU/Linux is wrong instead of focusing on positive campaigns and encourage developers to turn the free software ecosystem into a competitive option for users. Something, by the way, projects such as GNOME or Ubuntu are managing to do, and yet I don't see you putting any energy into praising and thanking the efforts of those who push towards that goal, I find that unfair, and counterproductive for you, the FSF and free software in general. And even though I think these things I don't go around FSF's and GNU's mailing list constantly asking people to quit the project because in my subjective opinion the project is "pretty bad" and I certainly don't go around trying to convince people to leave. You know why? Because even if I disagree with some things, you also do a bunch of good things and for good reasons. Life is not black and white. Richard, please, with all due respect and admiration, try to find the appropriate forums and discussions to spread awareness of your (on the other hand legitimate) concerns. Disclaimer: I work for Canonical, however all of my opinions and views expressed in this email are solely my own and they do not represent the official position of my employer. 2013/1/6 Richard Stallman : > I wouldn't discard rackspace, they have been quite keen to sponsor Ubuntu > in many ways. > > Ubuntu is pretty bad (see > http://www.gnu.org/philosophy/ubuntu-spyware.html) > but we should not hold that against Rackspace. > > -- > Dr Richard Stallman > President, Free Software Foundation > 51 Franklin St > Boston MA 02110 > USA > www.fsf.org www.gnu.org > Skype: No way! That's nonfree (freedom-denying) software. > Use Ekiga or an ordinary phone call > -- Cheers, Alberto Ruiz From alex.launi@gmail.com Sun Jan 6 14:49:29 2013 Return-Path: X-Original-To: foundation-list@gnome.org Delivered-To: foundation-list@gnome.org Received: from localhost (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5CE5D75034B; Sun, 6 Jan 2013 14:49:29 +0000 (UTC) X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at gnome.org X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -2.699 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.699 tagged_above=-999 required=2 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, FREEMAIL_FROM=0.001, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_LOW=-0.7, SPF_PASS=-0.001] autolearn=ham Received: from menubar.gnome.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (menubar.gnome.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id hP6vUowjcT8V; Sun, 6 Jan 2013 14:49:15 +0000 (UTC) Received: from mail-la0-f46.google.com (mail-la0-f46.google.com [209.85.215.46]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 556EB750180; Sun, 6 Jan 2013 14:49:13 +0000 (UTC) Received: by mail-la0-f46.google.com with SMTP id fq13so13223007lab.33 for ; Sun, 06 Jan 2013 06:49:48 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :cc:content-type; bh=L5v3nMRgkHRbkdoSCkePHZ127IlUTM60xzeSGLANwo0=; b=h4Jeio3VlHh7NDJnflYq94lU3iZvFs/mbrKWNoB+rBfAcE4Si+6oa2Xbcngp3VT3iu Fu5XEDKMIj6kilHwg0zGaqYmR/7QD4+yGF90GK1AxjXNR31Ogb2zCpl8ygPNx4xcp1vi cAYqitFRhKiZeGsLymSiwMi0ki7xu2QHaNAid5TiGSHNQ1TOEhjT6uAp1c8nOCoFc3Mh 3qA722N+dkCYL8rZpX3OfCVl2eu4kiEYWFDyqMWiSvJK4Sog83yt8uskjaK6xKVyRCUE jnTMH6O0kPvoVHzxNeCGUNznLKeDDm6RPFZA/oLz2qdujlV9MDO0tUUUQFqlf/q3uzXS 4k8w== MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.152.121.212 with SMTP id lm20mr54674426lab.42.1357483788187; Sun, 06 Jan 2013 06:49:48 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.114.71.2 with HTTP; Sun, 6 Jan 2013 06:49:48 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: References: <1357347575.14851.99.camel@localhost> <35aae7c1d1dd4b1f55b4930bac551137.squirrel@secure.motives.com> Date: Sun, 6 Jan 2013 09:49:48 -0500 Message-ID: Subject: Re: Reaching out to Amazon for credit? From: Alex Launi To: Alberto Ruiz Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=f46d04374ee1fbb7ea04d29fd227 Cc: "rms@gnu.org" , foundation-list X-BeenThere: foundation-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: Discussion relating to the GNOME Foundation List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 06 Jan 2013 14:49:29 -0000 --f46d04374ee1fbb7ea04d29fd227 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 > > > Indeed, we are discussing using proprietary Amazon services here, and yet you chose to attack Ubuntu. Please at least keep your zeal relevant. Alex -- --Alex Launi --f46d04374ee1fbb7ea04d29fd227 Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
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--f46d04374ee1fbb7ea04d29fd227-- From behdad.esfahbod@gmail.com Mon Jan 7 00:06:07 2013 Return-Path: X-Original-To: foundation-list@gnome.org Delivered-To: foundation-list@gnome.org Received: from localhost (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 61680750388; Mon, 7 Jan 2013 00:06:07 +0000 (UTC) X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at gnome.org X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -2.6 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.6 tagged_above=-999 required=2 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, FREEMAIL_FROM=0.001, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_LOW=-0.7, SPF_PASS=-0.001] autolearn=ham Received: from menubar.gnome.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (menubar.gnome.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id oOQ912JRTceW; Mon, 7 Jan 2013 00:06:05 +0000 (UTC) Received: from mail-ye0-f175.google.com (mail-ye0-f175.google.com [209.85.213.175]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4C8E375029B; Mon, 7 Jan 2013 00:06:04 +0000 (UTC) Received: by mail-ye0-f175.google.com with SMTP id q7so2927639yen.6 for ; Sun, 06 Jan 2013 16:06:39 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=x-received:sender:message-id:date:from:user-agent:mime-version:to :cc:subject:references:in-reply-to:x-enigmail-version:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; bh=m0Lv3t8JJcQGDno5g/KtPFI7aUeliyS2W9tq1uqIfa4=; b=e/G/UMeT0Sq8ztitTt+HwRhsCSZXA2rb5mn76zCN7FaXJMgSA/JGC0T1HLDrXu3Lde umXrjpj5txhuZVZYT8vuS2s9hAvUQLucoaCDN2Mp6g4v6dRVmYIUJNzTIhBZ/CdjHnc7 HOJ7F46TI+zTIY3++P4t/rpW3Bl2eN3HZiYlu0H9NGtP0HQC+p76bu4KQSrnIIbiwm9C H19leBbR5OHBeGgqqtMd8eOag2zxU8aPLYGCDJC+uv7KqZbEDDmSLh7+k39W9jjrIcAr YDSXPRzleyHV5VbyBCmEx34f1wAu6GoM1eqcc1A/kdLOWzE9RGYUxK7/RyjTXXEX5YgO VITg== X-Received: by 10.236.150.17 with SMTP id y17mr58168720yhj.126.1357517199530; Sun, 06 Jan 2013 16:06:39 -0800 (PST) Received: from [192.168.1.198] ([189.137.23.189]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id p17sm57383915anh.12.2013.01.06.16.06.36 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=OTHER); Sun, 06 Jan 2013 16:06:38 -0800 (PST) Sender: Behdad Esfahbod Message-ID: <50EA118B.9060909@behdad.org> Date: Sun, 06 Jan 2013 18:06:35 -0600 From: Behdad Esfahbod User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux x86_64; rv:17.0) Gecko/17.0 Thunderbird/17.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Alex Launi Subject: Re: Reaching out to Amazon for credit? References: <1357347575.14851.99.camel@localhost> <35aae7c1d1dd4b1f55b4930bac551137.squirrel@secure.motives.com> In-Reply-To: X-Enigmail-Version: 1.4.6 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: "rms@gnu.org" , foundation-list X-BeenThere: foundation-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: Discussion relating to the GNOME Foundation List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 07 Jan 2013 00:06:07 -0000 On 13-01-06 08:49 AM, Alex Launi wrote: > > Indeed, we are discussing using proprietary Amazon services here, and yet you > chose to attack Ubuntu. Please at least keep your zeal relevant. What's a proprietary service? -- behdad http://behdad.org/ From rms@gnu.org Mon Jan 7 02:19:58 2013 Return-Path: X-Original-To: foundation-list@gnome.org Delivered-To: foundation-list@gnome.org Received: from localhost (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 761A87503A4; Mon, 7 Jan 2013 02:19:58 +0000 (UTC) X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at gnome.org X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -6.9 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-6.9 tagged_above=-999 required=2 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_HI=-5, RP_MATCHES_RCVD=0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001] autolearn=ham Received: from menubar.gnome.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (menubar.gnome.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 6e5hGtyCTcZ7; Mon, 7 Jan 2013 02:19:43 +0000 (UTC) Received: from fencepost.gnu.org (fencepost.gnu.org [208.118.235.10]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8A0D175038B; Mon, 7 Jan 2013 02:19:43 +0000 (UTC) Received: from rms by fencepost.gnu.org with local (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1Ts2K1-0005j5-8w; Sun, 06 Jan 2013 21:20:17 -0500 Date: Sun, 06 Jan 2013 21:20:17 -0500 Message-Id: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-15 From: Richard Stallman To: Alberto Ruiz In-reply-to: (message from Alberto Ruiz on Sun, 6 Jan 2013 05:33:27 +0000) Subject: Re: Reaching out to Amazon for credit? References: <1357347575.14851.99.camel@localhost> <35aae7c1d1dd4b1f55b4930bac551137.squirrel@secure.motives.com> Cc: foundation-list@gnome.org X-BeenThere: foundation-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list Reply-To: rms@gnu.org List-Id: Discussion relating to the GNOME Foundation List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 07 Jan 2013 02:19:58 -0000 Richard, I would appreciate if you didn't try to use every single opportunity that you had to speak negatively about other projects, Did you verify that accusation before you made it? You could not have, because it's false. Just yesterday Amazon was mentioned, but I did not talk about it. I campaign against Amazon on stallman.org, but I didn't raie it here. It would have been a tangent. The problem with Ubuntu is not a tangent. It is a disaster for free software. It threatens to lower free software to the level of the malware that we condemn. That issue, I raised. That issue, we must face. I tried to be brief, so I did not explain _why_ this is important. The article, http://www.gnu.org/philosophy/ubuntu-spyware.html, explains why, but it seems that is not enough. I will explain here. The FSF did not accuse based on a supposition. We carefully checked the reports about Ubuntu's conduct before we made a public statement. We talked with people at the FSF who had studied it. We talked with people at Canonical, too. When it was clear that they were really making a major Ubuntu feature into spyware, and they showed no willingness to change it, we pulled out all stops. But it is unfair to diminish every single Ubuntu contributor and every positive aspect of the distro just because you don't like a particular decision or aspect, which happens to be optional by the way. http://www.gnu.org/philosophy/ubuntu-spyware.html says nothing about _contributors_ to Ubuntu. It's not about them. It says nothing about people such as you who are associated with Ubuntu. It's not about them either. It's about Ubuntu. It's about Ubuntu's malicious functionality, spyware. This is egregious behavior, and it calls for the strongest response. If it is accepted as normal, others are likely to follow the same path! We must respond to this as to a shocking crime. Does Ubuntu have "positive aspect"? Does it have variants that don't include the spyware? They don't change the conclusion. Positive aspects can't excuse this crime. If Ubuntu is guilty only in some variants, that's still guilty. We must punish Ubuntu so hard that anyone else will think twice before following the same route -- and so that Ubuntu will either pull back or be totally discredited. However, a modified version of Ubuntu made by a different entity with an unrelated name is a separate case. We can judge each of these based on what it does. Thus, we do not criticize independent distros just for being based on Ubuntu. and quite frankly I see it more focused on asking people to remove Windows and Mac OS X than giving them reasons to install free software on its own merits. Of course! The idea of the GNU Project is that we want computing users to have freedom. We've been focusing on freedom for almost 30 years. Freedom is why we developed the GNU system. In particular, freedom is why we started GNOME. So when we say what is good about free software, we mostly talk about the freedom, about the fact that the users control the software and not vice versa. (Ubuntu GNU/Linux has problems in the freedom dimension too; see http://gnu.org/distros/common-distros.html.) However, we also talk about some issues of practical merits that are very important. For instance, we say that free software isn't malicious; it won't spy on you. Our special condemnation of Ubuntu is based on the software's practical demerit. Ironic that just when we start talking about free software based an issue of practical merits, you respond by criticizing us for not doing so. ;-} There are some things that we must not tolerate on any pretext. Spyware is one of them. -- Dr Richard Stallman President, Free Software Foundation 51 Franklin St Boston MA 02110 USA www.fsf.org www.gnu.org Skype: No way! That's nonfree (freedom-denying) software. Use Ekiga or an ordinary phone call From stormy.peters@gmail.com Mon Jan 7 03:12:06 2013 Return-Path: X-Original-To: foundation-list@gnome.org Delivered-To: foundation-list@gnome.org Received: from localhost (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0881475029B; Mon, 7 Jan 2013 03:12:06 +0000 (UTC) X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at gnome.org X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -2.699 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.699 tagged_above=-999 required=2 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, FREEMAIL_FROM=0.001, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_LOW=-0.7, SPF_PASS=-0.001] autolearn=ham Received: from menubar.gnome.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (menubar.gnome.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id RxUP6XaRDYyU; Mon, 7 Jan 2013 03:12:03 +0000 (UTC) Received: from mail-vc0-f175.google.com (mail-vc0-f175.google.com [209.85.220.175]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 86FDD750282; Mon, 7 Jan 2013 03:12:03 +0000 (UTC) Received: by mail-vc0-f175.google.com with SMTP id fy7so18888972vcb.34 for ; Sun, 06 Jan 2013 19:12:37 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:from:date:message-id:subject:to :cc:content-type; bh=yPATNCrbQdnpkKw6ZgcK4FJyiObb8f5NE+ZjShTHNv4=; b=yBqYzpQuJjP78rG/9gYDe7QtCTxDDcOItuRs513cTSOBC+2x5r+IugTU5RwfElc+jl ja1ZYR2gKOu/I8Ru5JJWwQLr8De19U5GXUxeW52Aqq43NNNvL9N0uvrI2O9dnNMOWhfD 5P5vdx0I7t73ZVxtlgjq/gCwiShQrn51zFHl5AEvinQfydDjMryS2WipuCX8v8COneyG zBgOFmvM8iVfxmkcioHnOSnKenBekFKOL5aHH9KA4A+ii7Cw6dV0tGs86GVTIHNWFo87 qA8EBibLNwghpTv4VvdozROxuFI6xGhznzYjjyxJBhBtT2BJrRb+iQdUFFZTs/HlWd15 XAVA== Received: by 10.58.12.200 with SMTP id a8mr83128898vec.52.1357528357285; Sun, 06 Jan 2013 19:12:37 -0800 (PST) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.58.114.232 with HTTP; Sun, 6 Jan 2013 19:11:57 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: References: <1357347575.14851.99.camel@localhost> <35aae7c1d1dd4b1f55b4930bac551137.squirrel@secure.motives.com> From: Stormy Peters Date: Sun, 6 Jan 2013 20:11:57 -0700 Message-ID: Subject: Re: Reaching out to Amazon for credit? To: rms@gnu.org Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=047d7b2e0cab82307904d2aa33b9 Cc: foundation-list@gnome.org X-BeenThere: foundation-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: Discussion relating to the GNOME Foundation List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 07 Jan 2013 03:12:06 -0000 --047d7b2e0cab82307904d2aa33b9 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Hi Richard, On Sun, Jan 6, 2013 at 7:20 PM, Richard Stallman wrote: > > > The problem with Ubuntu is not a tangent. It is a disaster for free > software. It threatens to lower free software to the level of the malware > that we condemn. > Ubuntu has brought GNOME and Linux to millions of people. > > It's about Ubuntu. It's about Ubuntu's malicious functionality, > spyware. This is egregious behavior, and it calls for the strongest > response. If it is accepted as normal, others are likely to follow > the same path! We must respond to this as to a shocking crime. > I don't know whether Ubuntu collects data about users or not. But the way that you brought it up on this thread - about Amazon - and then attack turn the thread into an anti-Ubuntu campaign is really not professional. It's not a way to gain followers or to convince GNOME fans to do anything about what you are saying. If you have an issue with Ubuntu, I think you should bring it up with the GNOME community. In a clearly defined thread of its own. You should also realize when you do so that a large portion of GNOME community members are Ubuntu users and that Canonical, the company behind Ubuntu, is a large GNOME contributor. I don't think the fact that Canonical is a large supporter of GNOME should change how you feel about what you do, I do think it should make you think twice about the motivation behind what they are doing and how you approach the GNOME community to affect any change you think is warranted. Being aware of the current situation can help make you more effective. Your mail about Ubuntu being spyware and malicious and the language you use about needing to be punished shows that you are not aware of the relationship/oneness between Ubuntu and GNOME contributors. Richard, I find your emails very rude. It is possible that someone as intelligent as you could send such insensitive and rude emails without meaning to, but you should know that I find your emails very rude and very ignorant of the situation and the relationships that exist. I choose to think that you mean to make the world a better place by promoting free software, but I think you are doing so in a way that alienates many people that would be supporters. Stormy --047d7b2e0cab82307904d2aa33b9 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hi Richard,

On Sun, Jan 6, 2013 at 7:20 P= M, Richard Stallman <rms@gnu.org> wrote:

The problem with Ubuntu is not a tangent. =A0It is a disaster for free
software. =A0It threatens to lower free software to the level of the malwar= e
that we condemn.

Ubuntu has brought GNO= ME and Linux to millions of people.=A0
=
It's about Ubuntu. =A0It's about Ubuntu's malicious functionali= ty,
spyware. =A0This is egregious behavior, and it calls for the strongest
response. =A0If it is accepted as normal, others are likely to follow
the same path! =A0We must respond to this as to a shocking crime.

I don't know whether Ubuntu collects data ab= out users or not. But the way that you brought it up on this thread - about= Amazon - and then attack turn the thread into an anti-Ubuntu campaign is r= eally not professional. It's not a way to gain followers or to convince= GNOME fans to do anything about what you are saying.

If you have an issue with Ubuntu, I think you should br= ing it up with the GNOME community. In a clearly defined thread of its own.= You should also realize when you do so that a large portion of GNOME commu= nity members are Ubuntu users and that Canonical, the company behind Ubuntu= , is a large GNOME contributor. I don't think the fact that Canonical i= s a large supporter of GNOME should change how you feel about what you do, = I do think it should make you think twice about the motivation behind what = they are doing and how you approach the GNOME community to affect any chang= e you think is=A0warranted. Being aware of the current situation can help m= ake you more effective. Your mail about Ubuntu being spyware and malicious = and the language you use about needing to be punished shows that you are no= t aware of the relationship/oneness between Ubuntu and GNOME contributors.= =A0

Richard, I find your emails very rude. It is possible t= hat someone as intelligent as you could send such insensitive and rude emai= ls without meaning to, but you should know that I find your emails very rud= e and very ignorant of the situation and the relationships that exist. I ch= oose to think that you mean to make the world a better place by promoting f= ree software, but I think you are doing so in a way that alienates many peo= ple that would be supporters.

Stormy
=A0
--047d7b2e0cab82307904d2aa33b9-- From karen@gnome.org Mon Jan 7 04:28:51 2013 Return-Path: X-Original-To: foundation-list@gnome.org Delivered-To: foundation-list@gnome.org Received: from localhost (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9F10E750394; Mon, 7 Jan 2013 04:28:51 +0000 (UTC) X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at gnome.org X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -3.421 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-3.421 tagged_above=-999 required=2 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_MED=-2.3, SPF_NEUTRAL=0.779] autolearn=ham Received: from menubar.gnome.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (menubar.gnome.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id qajYq+JCSOF1; Mon, 7 Jan 2013 04:28:37 +0000 (UTC) Received: from pure.motives.com (pure.motives.com [207.192.71.45]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7884375029B; Mon, 7 Jan 2013 04:28:36 +0000 (UTC) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by pure.motives.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3D365136A8B; Sun, 6 Jan 2013 23:29:10 -0500 (EST) Received: from pure.motives.com ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (pure.motives.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id xaK0kvekqa8B; Sun, 6 Jan 2013 23:29:09 -0500 (EST) Received: from secure.motives.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by pure.motives.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 67C70136A2E; Sun, 6 Jan 2013 23:29:09 -0500 (EST) Received: from 184.152.52.83 (SquirrelMail authenticated user karen) by secure.motives.com with HTTP; Sun, 6 Jan 2013 23:29:09 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: <0986e27e87dc338a53341252174a0755.squirrel@secure.motives.com> Date: Sun, 6 Jan 2013 23:29:09 -0500 (EST) Subject: Re: Reaching out to Amazon for credit? From: "Karen Sandler" To: rms@gnu.org User-Agent: SquirrelMail/1.4.15 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain;charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Importance: Normal Cc: foundation-list@gnome.org X-BeenThere: foundation-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list Reply-To: karen@gnome.org List-Id: Discussion relating to the GNOME Foundation List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 07 Jan 2013 04:28:51 -0000 On Sun, January 6, 2013 9:20 pm, Richard Stallman wrote: > There are some things that we must not tolerate on any pretext. > Spyware is one of them. I agree with this sentiment, and am glad you are raising the issue. I liked the post you wrote, which I discuss with Bradley on our oggcast. To raise it here in this thread is definitely off topic, as others have said. I do think it's important to point out flaws in GNU/Linux distributions and the FSF serves its role well in that capacity. GNOME like all projects that are part of GNU is free software and can be used by anybody for any purpose. A lot of these communities have all sorts of participants, from hacker hobbyists to companies that sell various products around them, many of which involve proprietary software, spyware and all kinds of bad stuff. Our communities are stronger for having diverse participation, and the body of free software keeps growing because of this. Take GCC, for example. And the LGPL. What's important on the GNOME Foundations list is that you help us stay focused on GNOME and keeping it free. I hope Canonical does the right thing with Ubuntu going forward. It's right to call them out on it, but the GNOME foundations list isn't the venue for it unless for some reason GNOME starts including spyware too (which we won't!!). I also really hope that Canonical keeps contributing to help make GNOME better. karen From rms@gnu.org Mon Jan 7 06:05:04 2013 Return-Path: X-Original-To: foundation-list@gnome.org Delivered-To: foundation-list@gnome.org Received: from localhost (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0B57E75029B; Mon, 7 Jan 2013 06:05:04 +0000 (UTC) X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at gnome.org X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -6.9 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-6.9 tagged_above=-999 required=2 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_HI=-5, RP_MATCHES_RCVD=0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001] autolearn=ham Received: from menubar.gnome.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (menubar.gnome.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id HAl6ST1K1MqS; Mon, 7 Jan 2013 06:04:52 +0000 (UTC) Received: from fencepost.gnu.org (fencepost.gnu.org [208.118.235.10]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B66FC750282; Mon, 7 Jan 2013 06:04:52 +0000 (UTC) Received: from rms by fencepost.gnu.org with local (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1Ts5pt-0002gf-8D; Mon, 07 Jan 2013 01:05:25 -0500 Date: Mon, 07 Jan 2013 01:05:25 -0500 Message-Id: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-15 From: Richard Stallman To: Behdad Esfahbod In-reply-to: <50EA118B.9060909@behdad.org> (message from Behdad Esfahbod on Sun, 06 Jan 2013 18:06:35 -0600) Subject: Re: Reaching out to Amazon for credit? References: <1357347575.14851.99.camel@localhost> <35aae7c1d1dd4b1f55b4930bac551137.squirrel@secure.motives.com> <50EA118B.9060909@behdad.org> Cc: foundation-list@gnome.org X-BeenThere: foundation-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list Reply-To: rms@gnu.org List-Id: Discussion relating to the GNOME Foundation List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 07 Jan 2013 06:05:04 -0000 > Indeed, we are discussing using proprietary Amazon services here, and yet you > chose to attack Ubuntu. Please at least keep your zeal relevant. What's a proprietary service? That is a good question -- we have no accepted answer, and I am not sure there ought to be an answer. The ethical issues raised by services are different from those raised by programs, so I think it is potentially misleading to try to take terms such as "free" and "proprietary", which are defined for programs, and apply them to services. See http://www.gnu.org/philosophy/network-services-arent-free-or-nonfree.html. -- Dr Richard Stallman President, Free Software Foundation 51 Franklin St Boston MA 02110 USA www.fsf.org www.gnu.org Skype: No way! That's nonfree (freedom-denying) software. Use Ekiga or an ordinary phone call From tobiasmue@gnome.org Mon Jan 7 09:45:13 2013 Return-Path: X-Original-To: foundation-list@gnome.org Delivered-To: foundation-list@gnome.org Received: from localhost (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A7F73750255 for ; Mon, 7 Jan 2013 09:45:13 +0000 (UTC) X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at gnome.org X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -1.121 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.121 tagged_above=-999 required=2 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, SPF_NEUTRAL=0.779] autolearn=no Received: from menubar.gnome.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (menubar.gnome.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 3Vc5EqWSoNTu for ; Mon, 7 Jan 2013 09:44:59 +0000 (UTC) Received: from mail.cryptobitch.de (cryptobitch.de [88.198.7.68]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9E4067500E5 for ; Mon, 7 Jan 2013 09:44:59 +0000 (UTC) Received: from [192.168.0.107] (port-30297.pppoe.wtnet.de [46.59.169.43]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-CAMELLIA256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by mail.cryptobitch.de (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 4A79D5ABAD1 for ; Mon, 7 Jan 2013 10:45:31 +0100 (CET) Message-ID: <50EA993A.3010202@gnome.org> Date: Mon, 07 Jan 2013 10:45:30 +0100 From: Tobias Mueller User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux x86_64; rv:17.0) Gecko/17.0 Thunderbird/17.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: foundation-list Subject: Problems receiving email X-Enigmail-Version: 1.4.6 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="------------enigAA167C62115043025CFF4FDB" X-BeenThere: foundation-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: Discussion relating to the GNOME Foundation List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 07 Jan 2013 09:45:13 -0000 This is an OpenPGP/MIME signed message (RFC 2440 and 3156) --------------enigAA167C62115043025CFF4FDB Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hey folks, I just wanted to let you know that I had problems receiving mail via my @gnome.org alias for the last three weeks or so. If you intended to contact me, but failed, please try again. Thanks, Tobi --------------enigAA167C62115043025CFF4FDB Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name="signature.asc" Content-Description: OpenPGP digital signature Content-Disposition: attachment; filename="signature.asc" -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.12 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with undefined - http://www.enigmail.net/ iEYEARECAAYFAlDqmToACgkQ9woCkGwwGBO/qQCfWEMmhebKVul9OLBFqJSJbOc6 csAAnRfItpMNfbpBGEELt4tBnxfht7J5 =U/2k -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --------------enigAA167C62115043025CFF4FDB-- From jared@jaredjennings.org Tue Jan 1 22:23:39 2013 Return-Path: X-Original-To: foundation-list@gnome.org Delivered-To: foundation-list@gnome.org Received: from localhost (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id F40A0750083 for ; Tue, 1 Jan 2013 22:23:38 +0000 (UTC) X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at gnome.org X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -2.6 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.6 tagged_above=-999 required=2 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_LOW=-0.7, SPF_PASS=-0.001] autolearn=ham Received: from menubar.gnome.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (menubar.gnome.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id gTXUNgUk97N5 for ; Tue, 1 Jan 2013 22:23:37 +0000 (UTC) Received: from mail-ia0-f174.google.com (mail-ia0-f174.google.com [209.85.210.174]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0D63C75001A for ; Tue, 1 Jan 2013 22:23:36 +0000 (UTC) Received: by mail-ia0-f174.google.com with SMTP id y25so11222971iay.19 for ; Tue, 01 Jan 2013 14:24:01 -0800 (PST) X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=google.com; s=20120113; h=x-received:from:content-type:subject:message-id:date:to :mime-version:x-mailer:x-gm-message-state; bh=1Gioj/oeTn7tb9O6qNLkmUxzo7HWZ0YWinoR+vWL8qM=; b=RRYlXXpZX2UN7esLweRIV8I0aiMNUSS05awQIC+2SEsmbfwqnsdL/ofNV8XVPvpuN6 f1WFMPLSsTFpwyw7qp+5a4izM5G/bH3mLPTbDNndR91YnusYt04Kx2EArcvyGIIR2XiP CfgoICIVWqJH/i9oKG83lwRWJfS1UJsG5oQaoRa7K3Gy8WFMNjeQ853TgSB7DbZTWthq wXalv972zrSDa+G9iGViwYb8LB+nLvbONuysdE0Vt+0V77zAmiA1CCYT9ABriqmueH4X mJ5wEUdtUys1yhGTVqBqrcGjCruab2zffrDN4HbBztwizoKuJApH3v+aocD+QcvAa1eu O7Yw== X-Received: by 10.50.33.147 with SMTP id r19mr39745878igi.73.1357079041836; Tue, 01 Jan 2013 14:24:01 -0800 (PST) Received: from [172.16.1.13] ([67.143.229.17]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id uz1sm36853314igb.16.2013.01.01.14.23.57 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=OTHER); Tue, 01 Jan 2013 14:24:01 -0800 (PST) From: Jared Jennings Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="Apple-Mail=_E04C320A-E2BC-4F83-9E1B-8554FE5BF6BA" Subject: Github Repo - Tomboy Message-Id: <304E825C-E4F1-4578-80F1-557A3C118B90@jaredjennings.org> Date: Tue, 1 Jan 2013 16:23:50 -0600 To: "foundation-list@gnome.org" Mime-Version: 1.0 (Mac OS X Mail 6.2 \(1499\)) X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.1499) X-Gm-Message-State: ALoCoQmrDmytR212fWwK+NTvhvzUJ18WXfe475P+SomJhL8n24O4z0Fcb2jBoQUPzDmlivlAzzRT X-Mailman-Approved-At: Tue, 08 Jan 2013 00:47:12 +0000 X-BeenThere: foundation-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: Discussion relating to the GNOME Foundation List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 01 Jan 2013 22:23:39 -0000 --Apple-Mail=_E04C320A-E2BC-4F83-9E1B-8554FE5BF6BA Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Today I found that GNOME is an organization on Github with several = repp's. While I think this is fantastic, several Repo's including Tomboy = are out of date. Regrettably, a few users are cloning and using these = outdated Repo's. 1. Why isn't this being updated. Is it an automatic process? 2. If it is manual, can I get access so that I can keep it updated? 3. I wish GNOME would move to Github, but I know that has been = discussed. I wasn't around and don't need an explanation or any = response. Just poking, I am sure a can of worms :) :) Thanks, Jared --Apple-Mail=_E04C320A-E2BC-4F83-9E1B-8554FE5BF6BA Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Type: text/html; charset=us-ascii Today I found that GNOME is an organization on Github with several repp's. While I think this is fantastic, several Repo's including Tomboy are out of date. Regrettably, a few users are cloning and using these outdated Repo's.

1. Why isn't this being updated. Is it an automatic process?
2. If it is manual, can I get access so that I can keep it updated?
3. I wish GNOME would move to Github, but I know that has been discussed. I wasn't around and don't need an explanation or any response. Just poking, I am sure a can of worms :) :)

Thanks,

Jared

--Apple-Mail=_E04C320A-E2BC-4F83-9E1B-8554FE5BF6BA-- From rms@gnu.org Tue Jan 8 02:10:57 2013 Return-Path: X-Original-To: foundation-list@gnome.org Delivered-To: foundation-list@gnome.org Received: from localhost (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CF08C7503E7 for ; Tue, 8 Jan 2013 02:10:57 +0000 (UTC) X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at gnome.org X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -6.9 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-6.9 tagged_above=-999 required=2 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_HI=-5, RP_MATCHES_RCVD=0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001] autolearn=ham Received: from menubar.gnome.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (menubar.gnome.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id ptMa743En-Nn for ; Tue, 8 Jan 2013 02:10:44 +0000 (UTC) Received: from fencepost.gnu.org (fencepost.gnu.org [208.118.235.10]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id AF47C7500E5 for ; Tue, 8 Jan 2013 02:10:44 +0000 (UTC) Received: from rms by fencepost.gnu.org with local (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1TsOeq-0001Xn-EX; Mon, 07 Jan 2013 21:11:16 -0500 Date: Mon, 07 Jan 2013 21:11:16 -0500 Message-Id: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-15 From: Richard Stallman To: foundation-list@gnome.org In-reply-to: (message from Richard Stallman on Sun, 06 Jan 2013 21:20:17 -0500) Subject: Re: Reaching out to Amazon for credit? References: <1357347575.14851.99.camel@localhost> <35aae7c1d1dd4b1f55b4930bac551137.squirrel@secure.motives.com> X-BeenThere: foundation-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list Reply-To: rms@gnu.org List-Id: Discussion relating to the GNOME Foundation List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 08 Jan 2013 02:10:58 -0000 I wrote The FSF did not accuse based on a supposition. We carefully checked the reports about Ubuntu's conduct before we made a public statement. We talked with people at the FSF who had studied it. but I meant to write The FSF did not accuse based on a supposition. We carefully checked the reports about Ubuntu's conduct before we made a public statement. We talked with people at the EFF who had studied it. -- Dr Richard Stallman President, Free Software Foundation 51 Franklin St Boston MA 02110 USA www.fsf.org www.gnu.org Skype: No way! That's nonfree (freedom-denying) software. Use Ekiga or an ordinary phone call From rms@gnu.org Tue Jan 8 02:11:02 2013 Return-Path: X-Original-To: foundation-list@gnome.org Delivered-To: foundation-list@gnome.org Received: from localhost (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5EE02750418 for ; Tue, 8 Jan 2013 02:11:02 +0000 (UTC) X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at gnome.org X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -6.9 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-6.9 tagged_above=-999 required=2 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_HI=-5, RP_MATCHES_RCVD=0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001] autolearn=ham Received: from menubar.gnome.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (menubar.gnome.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id yP5UBZ9-mMJh for ; Tue, 8 Jan 2013 02:10:50 +0000 (UTC) Received: from fencepost.gnu.org (fencepost.gnu.org [208.118.235.10]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C18C5750389 for ; Tue, 8 Jan 2013 02:10:50 +0000 (UTC) Received: from rms by fencepost.gnu.org with local (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1TsOex-0001Yh-5O; Mon, 07 Jan 2013 21:11:23 -0500 Date: Mon, 07 Jan 2013 21:11:23 -0500 Message-Id: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-15 From: Richard Stallman To: Stormy Peters In-reply-to: (message from Stormy Peters on Sun, 6 Jan 2013 20:11:57 -0700) Subject: Re: Reaching out to Amazon for credit? References: <1357347575.14851.99.camel@localhost> <35aae7c1d1dd4b1f55b4930bac551137.squirrel@secure.motives.com> Cc: foundation-list@gnome.org X-BeenThere: foundation-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list Reply-To: rms@gnu.org List-Id: Discussion relating to the GNOME Foundation List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 08 Jan 2013 02:11:02 -0000 Ubuntu has brought GNOME and Linux to millions of people. Ubuntu is a GNU/Linux system, and some of its variants use GNOME. The users don't see Linux at all, and if it were replaced with the kernel of FreeBSD they would hardly notice the change; but they do notice GNOME if it is there. That is good, as far as it goes, but our work aims for a purpose beyond mere success. Spyware in GNU/Linux undermines that purpose. As ethical citizens, we must not let our judgment of large ethical issues depend mainly on how they affect our own specific project. We must conform our work to our ethics and not vice versa. Perhaps that means we should avoid being too "professional". I don't know whether Ubuntu collects data about users or not. It is a grave issue for our communuty. You ought to start paying attention. But the way that you brought it up on this thread - about Amazon - and then attack turn the thread into an anti-Ubuntu campaign is really not professional. No, that not what happened. Here's what happened. Someone briefly mentioned Ubuntu so I briefly referred people to our article about Ubuntu. Someone else posted a long defense of Ubuntu, combined with a groundless personal attack against me. I defended myself from the attack by explaining the issue. Each of my messages addressed a topic already on the table. Richard, I find your emails very rude. I don't see grounds for that -- they are not objectively rude. The groundless personal attack against me -- that was rude. But you did not criticize that. Why not? Spyware in Ubuntu is an important issue, and these criticisms of my message -- even if they were valid -- are a minor one. Let the minor issue not distract us from the important issue. -- Dr Richard Stallman President, Free Software Foundation 51 Franklin St Boston MA 02110 USA www.fsf.org www.gnu.org Skype: No way! That's nonfree (freedom-denying) software. Use Ekiga or an ordinary phone call From stormy.peters@gmail.com Tue Jan 8 14:49:14 2013 Return-Path: X-Original-To: foundation-list@gnome.org Delivered-To: foundation-list@gnome.org Received: from localhost (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id ABE7D7503E4 for ; Tue, 8 Jan 2013 14:49:14 +0000 (UTC) X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at gnome.org X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -2.699 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.699 tagged_above=-999 required=2 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, FREEMAIL_FROM=0.001, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_LOW=-0.7, SPF_PASS=-0.001] autolearn=ham Received: from menubar.gnome.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (menubar.gnome.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id MKHksmlY7OqN for ; Tue, 8 Jan 2013 14:49:12 +0000 (UTC) Received: from mail-vb0-f44.google.com (mail-vb0-f44.google.com [209.85.212.44]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 233037503E0 for ; Tue, 8 Jan 2013 14:49:11 +0000 (UTC) Received: by mail-vb0-f44.google.com with SMTP id fc26so449184vbb.17 for ; Tue, 08 Jan 2013 06:49:43 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:from:date:message-id:subject:to :cc:content-type; bh=GC1I7BBRQjoV6L44GOdLjPT7QwDj7Jd5MfpMW9TGnNw=; b=P9ZYKcVa9BtqHycSijbnzH7rvflEuzR1PPZRVwbx/irBUdjHeJ7gAIrRiCFIDqWVrQ da83xhh4U6zeFjb4ua4UUVWVD599s+LwQMRt1WVRup1Jrh+qPWfECmy0E8fzo+LzzlAG 19Yg0LVq3cbkteBCj5iGpDWtAtt5uQIxvVAfQbop2lMTmH+g3Ww6rsK5YsfD+/fJbJVX hWqu6UN0NhFEt6UpIywLm6b9LLpsgyCt9eobAZG0jkP7WuM8OWIVvRrIfoa2utENIz3L 4+sgKG13FBjg1zX2TyM/kWxit/PiY/NzLz1Yyypsj/pWZh634VYTlcEDmzEEARpS1LP1 XbSw== Received: by 10.52.30.108 with SMTP id r12mr77463418vdh.72.1357656583562; Tue, 08 Jan 2013 06:49:43 -0800 (PST) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.58.114.232 with HTTP; Tue, 8 Jan 2013 06:49:03 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: References: <1357347575.14851.99.camel@localhost> <35aae7c1d1dd4b1f55b4930bac551137.squirrel@secure.motives.com> From: Stormy Peters Date: Tue, 8 Jan 2013 07:49:03 -0700 Message-ID: Subject: Re: Reaching out to Amazon for credit? To: rms@gnu.org Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=20cf307c9b9063e74204d2c80e73 Cc: foundation-list@gnome.org X-BeenThere: foundation-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: Discussion relating to the GNOME Foundation List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 08 Jan 2013 14:49:14 -0000 --20cf307c9b9063e74204d2c80e73 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 On Mon, Jan 7, 2013 at 7:11 PM, Richard Stallman wrote: > > Richard, I find your emails very rude. > > I don't see grounds for that -- they are not objectively rude. > No, but they are rude in context. The fact that you do not work within the context of that particular conversation makes them rude. Perhaps you don't see the context. If so, maybe others could help you figure out when and how to contribute to a mailing list in the most effective manner. > The groundless personal attack against me -- that was rude. But > you did not criticize that. Why not? Sorry, I did not see it as a personal attack. I saw it as a response to your inappropriate email and a plea to you to please help us all be more effective in our efforts to promote free software. The way you currently jump into conversations often hurts our goals as much as it helps. As many on this list know, I respond - sometimes privately and sometimes publicly - whenever I see passion matched with behavior that is making them ineffective. Everyone is welcome to take my advice, ignore my advice or discuss it. I try to learn from every interaction. (I also try not to jump in very often. :) Happy to take this offline now. Stormy --20cf307c9b9063e74204d2c80e73 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

On Mon, Jan 7, 2013 at 7:11 PM, Richard = Stallman <rms@gnu.org> wrote:
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=A0 =A0 Richard, I find your emails very rude.

I don't see grounds for that -- they are not objectively rude.

No, but they are rude in context. The fac= t that you do not work within the context of that particular conversation m= akes them rude. Perhaps you don't see the context. If so, maybe others = could help you figure out when and how to contribute to a mailing list in t= he most effective manner.
=A0
The groundless personal attack against me -- that was rude. =A0But
you did not criticize that. =A0Why not?

Sor= ry, I did not see it as a personal attack. I saw it as a response to your i= nappropriate email and a plea to you to please help us all be more effectiv= e in our efforts to promote free software. The way you currently jump into = conversations often hurts our goals as much as it helps.

As many on this list know, I respond - sometimes privat= ely and sometimes publicly - whenever I see passion matched with behavior t= hat is making them ineffective. Everyone is welcome to take my advice, igno= re my advice or discuss it. I try to learn from every interaction. (I also = try not to jump in very often. :)

Happy to take this offline now.

Stormy=A0

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--20cf307c9b9063e74204d2c80e73-- From andrea.veri@gmail.com Wed Jan 9 15:55:49 2013 Return-Path: X-Original-To: foundation-list@gnome.org Delivered-To: foundation-list@gnome.org Received: from localhost (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B44C175044F for ; Wed, 9 Jan 2013 15:55:49 +0000 (UTC) X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at gnome.org X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -2.599 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.599 tagged_above=-999 required=2 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, FREEMAIL_FROM=0.001, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_LOW=-0.7, SPF_PASS=-0.001] autolearn=ham Received: from menubar.gnome.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (menubar.gnome.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id GR7UDAhtBl5U for ; Wed, 9 Jan 2013 15:55:35 +0000 (UTC) Received: from mail-ob0-f173.google.com (mail-ob0-f173.google.com [209.85.214.173]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7B919750452 for ; Wed, 9 Jan 2013 15:55:35 +0000 (UTC) Received: by mail-ob0-f173.google.com with SMTP id xn12so2301864obc.4 for ; Wed, 09 Jan 2013 07:56:05 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:sender:date:x-google-sender-auth:message-id:subject :from:to:content-type; bh=5aAma7fkVgFeLUXX4475kVKDDoT1qcVqnduPsgP6c5k=; b=RD8HCl9iqe9den3ETuBAGayWlVBmof/dqnXyDLpu8rGMXept1u4xHrySyjLvlbI0UL L54ZCZlGHA7mOqdSS99271JVcMrqw4PQAc7mHlX428fR/A2B5Cif3l5rV39I+nFLYL2T eZzKCuTnCBTVScmtPhRSe1mbox6x9XfbCjSR7fQAQ2XMRtk0BoTSwB9INfvmADup6F8B UGu4JiuaKab7MpxRWLxA6nfBIULbvXeSSSgL8mqWzPLVLLFET6XgCotV5Pq3cxVmgi9t 1f3UmA7UC7MkiXccr0HnIVxbeNfI7yPs++zOZAuQ8Z6VWhNop0YZxGFQwKmPoW/3Alpx ErUA== MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.182.53.3 with SMTP id x3mr49143006obo.87.1357746965452; Wed, 09 Jan 2013 07:56:05 -0800 (PST) Sender: andrea.veri@gmail.com Received: by 10.76.7.1 with HTTP; Wed, 9 Jan 2013 07:56:05 -0800 (PST) Date: Wed, 9 Jan 2013 16:56:05 +0100 X-Google-Sender-Auth: wIfarZj1WQ9Jp0Hf8tz8QS0yG1c Message-ID: Subject: New Foundation Members From: Andrea Veri To: Foundation List Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=f46d044630a092187e04d2dd19f1 X-BeenThere: foundation-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: Discussion relating to the GNOME Foundation List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 09 Jan 2013 15:55:49 -0000 --f46d044630a092187e04d2dd19f1 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hello everybody! The GNOME Foundation Membership Committee is proud to announce our newly approved Foundation Members. Please welcome and thank them for their great and valuable contributions over the GNOME Foundation. They are: * 1. Andreia Gaita (Gluezilla, Webkit#, gir-based C# bindings) 2. Praveen Illa (GNOME Telugu translator) 3. Marcus Moeller (GNOME Switzerland organizer, bug reporting, deployment of GNOME installations) 4. Carlos Soriano S=C3=A1nchez (GNOME Shell message tray) 5. Izidor Matu=C5=A1ov (RT #13190) (GTG maintainer) 6. Carl-Anton Ingmarsson (gvfs, Anjuta, author of the gstreamer VDPAU plugins) 7. James Shubin (Bug reporting, deployment of GNOME installations) 8. Anish A. (GNOME Malayalam translator) 9. Fabiano Fid=C3=AAncio (GNOME Boxes, libosinfo contributions during GSo= C) 10. Andika Triwidada (GNOME Indonesian translator) 11. Nohemi Fernandez (GNOME Shell accessibility, GNOME Women promotion) 12. Kalev Lember (GHex and Nemiver contributions, GNOME package maintenance in Fedora, many patches submitted) 13. Aleksander Morgado (ModemManager, Tracker and Devhelp code contributions, many bugs and patches submitted) 14. Khoem Sokhem (Khmer Translations Team coordinator) 15. Rui Tiago Ca=C3=A7=C3=A3o Matos (Mutter, GNOME Shell, GNOME Control Cen= ter and GNOME Settings Daemon) 16. Eslam Mostafa Abdel-Fattah (GNOME Clocks contributions and bug reporting) 17. Anish Patil (gnome-transliteration and IBus developer, Input Methods contributions) 18. Emily Gonyer (Marketing, GNOME Clocks contributions during GSoC, GOPW) 19. Bertrand Rousseau (Co-founder of Getting Things GNOME, GSoC and GOPW mentoring) 20. Sam Thursfield (Tracker, JHBuild porting, Bug triaging and fixing) * Syntax is Name Surname (area of involvement) In addition to them, we also have four new Emeritus Members: [1] 1. James Henstridge (Initial author of the Python GTK and GNOME bindings, past Board member) 2. Adam Weinberger (en_CA GNOME translation project leader, developed a backend framework that integrated GNOME into the FreeBSD ports tree) 3. Filippo Argiolas (Past Cheese maintainer, many contributions to Gstreamer) 4. Karsten Br=C3=A4ckelmann (Past Release Team member) For any further question you may have, feel free to mail us at membership-committee@gnome.org. Best wishes, The GNOME Foundation Membership Committee [1] https://live.gnome.org/MembershipCommittee/EmeritusMembers --=20 Cheers, Andrea Debian Developer, Fedora / EPEL packager, GNOME Sysadmin, GNOME Foundation Membership & Elections Committee Chairman Homepage: http://www.gnome.org/~av --f46d044630a092187e04d2dd19f1 Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable 
Hello everybody! The=
 GNOME Foundation Membership Committee is proud to announce our newly appro=
ved Foundation Members. Please welcome and thank them for their great and valuable contr=
ibutions over the GNOME Foundation.

They are: *

1. =C2=A0 Andreia Gaita (Gluezilla, = Webkit#, gir-based C# bindings)

2. =C2=A0 Praveen Illa (GNOME Telugu translator)

3. =C2=A0 Marcu= s Moeller (GNOME Switzerland organizer, bug reporting, deployment of GNOME = installations)

4. =C2=A0 Carlos Soriano S=C3=A1nchez (GNOME Shell me= ssage tray)

5. =C2=A0 Izidor Matu=C5=A1ov (RT #13190) (GTG maintainer)

6. =C2= =A0 Carl-Anton Ingmarsson (gvfs, Anjuta, author of the gstreamer VDPAU plug= ins)

7. =C2=A0 James Shubin (Bug reporting, deployment of GNOME inst= allations)

8. =C2=A0 Anish A. (GNOME Malayalam translator)

9. =C2=A0 Fabiano Fi= d=C3=AAncio (GNOME Boxes, libosinfo contributions during GSoC)

10. = Andika Triwidada (GNOME Indonesian translator)

11. Nohemi Fernandez = (GNOME Shell accessibility, GNOME Women promotion)

12. Kalev Lember (GHex and Nemiver contributions, GNOME package mainten= ance in Fedora, many patches submitted)

13. Aleksander Morgado (Mod= emManager, Tracker and Devhelp code contributions, many bugs and patches su= bmitted)

14. Khoem Sokhem (Khmer Translations Team coordinator)

15. Rui = Tiago Ca=C3=A7=C3=A3o Matos (Mutter, GNOME Shell, GNOME Control Center and = GNOME Settings Daemon)

16. Eslam Mostafa Abdel-Fattah (GNOME Clocks = contributions and bug reporting)

17. Anish Patil (gnome-transliteration and IBus developer, Input Method= s contributions)

18. Emily Gonyer (Marketing, GNOME Clocks contribut= ions during GSoC, GOPW)

19. Bertrand Rousseau (Co-founder of Gettin= g Things GNOME, GSoC and GOPW mentoring)

20. Sam Thursfield (Tracker, JHBuild porting, Bug triaging and fixing)<= /div>

* Syntax is Name Surname (area =
of involvement)
In addition to them, we also have four ne=
w Emeritus Members: [1]
1. James Henstridge (Initial author of the Python GTK and GN= OME bindings, past Board member)

2. Adam Weinberger (en_CA GNOME translation project leader, developed a= backend framework that integrated GNOME into the FreeBSD ports tree)
3. Filippo Argiolas (Past Cheese maintainer, many contributions to Gstrea= mer)

4. Karsten Br=C3=A4ckelmann (Past Release Team member)

For any further question you may have, feel free to mail us at membership-committee@gnome.org.
Best wishes,

The GNOME Foundation Membership Committee

[1] https://live.gnome.org/Memb=
ershipCommittee/EmeritusMembers


--
Cheers,

Andrea
<= br>Debian Developer,
Fedora / EPEL packager,
GNOME Sysadmin,
GNOME= Foundation Membership & Elections Committee Chairman

Homepage: http:/= /www.gnome.org/~av
--f46d044630a092187e04d2dd19f1-- From rms@gnu.org Wed Jan 9 16:42:55 2013 Return-Path: X-Original-To: foundation-list@gnome.org Delivered-To: foundation-list@gnome.org Received: from localhost (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4BB23750452 for ; Wed, 9 Jan 2013 16:42:55 +0000 (UTC) X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at gnome.org X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -6.9 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-6.9 tagged_above=-999 required=2 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_HI=-5, RP_MATCHES_RCVD=0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001] autolearn=ham Received: from menubar.gnome.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (menubar.gnome.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id NnvofJ-qCu1Y for ; Wed, 9 Jan 2013 16:42:40 +0000 (UTC) Received: from fencepost.gnu.org (fencepost.gnu.org [208.118.235.10]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C3F30750444 for ; Wed, 9 Jan 2013 16:42:40 +0000 (UTC) Received: from rms by fencepost.gnu.org with local (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1TsykA-0007kC-DY; Wed, 09 Jan 2013 11:43:10 -0500 Date: Wed, 09 Jan 2013 11:43:10 -0500 Message-Id: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-15 From: Richard Stallman To: Stormy Peters In-reply-to: (message from Stormy Peters on Tue, 8 Jan 2013 07:49:03 -0700) Subject: Re: Reaching out to Amazon for credit? References: <1357347575.14851.99.camel@localhost> <35aae7c1d1dd4b1f55b4930bac551137.squirrel@secure.motives.com> Cc: foundation-list@gnome.org X-BeenThere: foundation-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list Reply-To: rms@gnu.org List-Id: Discussion relating to the GNOME Foundation List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 09 Jan 2013 16:42:55 -0000 No, but they are rude in context. The fact that you do not work within the context of that particular conversation makes them rude. On the contrary, I did exactly what was appropriate. When someone briefly mentioned Ubuntu, I briefly mentioned it, giving a link to information about the issue. That did not interfere with the discussion about hosting, which will surely continue. It was an aside. Someone who works for Canonical posted a long apology for Ubuntu, so I responded to it (as well as rebuking the groundless personal attack). Each message was entirely appropriate in the situation where I sent it. Sorry, I did not see it as a personal attack. Here's what that message said: > Richard, I would appreciate if you didn't try to use every single > opportunity that you had to speak negatively about other projects, A more cut-and-ried personal attack, there cannot be. It exaggerates a negative into a falsehood then and attacks me with it. I am surprised you did not see this. You've offered me help in being "more effective", but there is no reason to think I have not been effective already. I am not perfect, but I have been rather effective generally. GNOME's existence is a part of that effect (see http://www.gnu.org/gnu/the-gnu-project.html and search for GNOME). Were my two messages about Ubuntu effective? They provoked opposition, but that doesn't mean they didn't do their job. I am sure that many of the GNOME developers on the list have read the article http://www.gnu.org/philosophy/ubuntu-spyware.html, and are now concerned about the issue. Perhaps even you will inform yourself about the issue, though I can't force you. Anyone who thinks there's a better way to raise this issue is welcome to try that way. If you do it better than I did, I will be glad to step aside and leave it to you. and a plea to you to please help us all be more effective in our efforts to promote free software. The plea in his message was to overlook the Ubuntu spyware issue, to accept such spyware as normal and legitimate for the sake of avoiding disagreement. That raises a substantial and important issue. There is a reason we should overlook minor annoyances and mistakes of other free software developers. If we quarrel about things that we could disregard, we will lose out. However, when another free software project does something especially bad, we must not overlook that, because tolerating that would lower our whole community -- and we will lose out. Spying on the user is mistreatment of the highest order. In 29 years of campaigning for free software, I have seen nothing worse than this, and few things that are as bad. If there is anything we should not overlook, it is this. Ubuntu is not entirely free software; but most of it is. Use of Ubuntu is not moving to free software, but is much closer than MacOS or iOS. Thus, in the past we could not endorse Ubuntu but most of the time we did not need to bring up the issue. However, if we want to promote free software effectively, we can't ignore the spyware. We have to make Canonical back off the spyware, and cancel the announced plan to go even further and make Ubuntu offer products from Amazon. To work together to promote free software, the supporters of Ubuntu must try to pull it back from spying while we outsiders push it away from spying. If they think Canonical's decision was a mistake, that's a good start, but they need to go beyond just thinking so. -- Dr Richard Stallman President, Free Software Foundation 51 Franklin St Boston MA 02110 USA www.fsf.org www.gnu.org Skype: No way! That's nonfree (freedom-denying) software. Use Ekiga or an ordinary phone call From gilforcada@gmail.com Wed Jan 9 22:12:39 2013 Return-Path: X-Original-To: foundation-list@gnome.org Delivered-To: foundation-list@gnome.org Received: from localhost (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 55D83750606; Wed, 9 Jan 2013 22:12:39 +0000 (UTC) X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at gnome.org X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -2.6 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.6 tagged_above=-999 required=2 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, FREEMAIL_FROM=0.001, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_LOW=-0.7, SPF_PASS=-0.001] autolearn=ham Received: from menubar.gnome.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (menubar.gnome.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id OIcUz8bdMnOj; Wed, 9 Jan 2013 22:12:24 +0000 (UTC) Received: from mail-bk0-f42.google.com (mail-bk0-f42.google.com [209.85.214.42]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8F0767505D4; Wed, 9 Jan 2013 22:12:23 +0000 (UTC) Received: by mail-bk0-f42.google.com with SMTP id ji2so1217701bkc.29 for ; Wed, 09 Jan 2013 14:12:53 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=x-received:sender:message-id:subject:from:to:cc:date:in-reply-to :references:content-type:x-mailer:mime-version :content-transfer-encoding; bh=TN+CC/ZV/S8eNLXbhRgr+03kv/jsesGtmRY1I4rtUBY=; b=ZnlFAAWDVo1Igj/5dhKhx5rqFQ4OkvD4yQrZojr9O5bTckoiMjegSts851J3piw0AV 4lsJHN9orI5MivwG8E54dPc+ijvmeIeHph4XMsDOkb3R+AYQ1unBDN96ectN5+sROgcU h8koVwpIySAmLM2LN+aRyT8B2Kj54bVKgM5jy0evto2bNLM6+O+G3xPkegbTp/Ukk0t7 W/QypQaMlJWp45QK2XKcJHr7OeGGX7SUYcneeCNXNKhLtRTQvfS8UL0xXyopWLhnmnOW UwYpVJrH5VW1CweZjj+ZB1zDIG8WywfQfWY4vcQyoPml6UK9D1FKhqyAbHvBmfYGOE9d p9Og== X-Received: by 10.204.3.205 with SMTP id 13mr33475155bko.38.1357769572863; Wed, 09 Jan 2013 14:12:52 -0800 (PST) Received: from [192.168.0.103] (91-64-121-100-dynip.superkabel.de. [91.64.121.100]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id i20sm50099911bkw.5.2013.01.09.14.12.51 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=OTHER); Wed, 09 Jan 2013 14:12:51 -0800 (PST) Sender: gil forcada Message-ID: <1357769570.14893.7.camel@molinet> Subject: Re: New Foundation Members From: Gil Forcada To: Andrea Veri Date: Wed, 09 Jan 2013 23:12:50 +0100 In-Reply-To: References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" X-Mailer: Evolution 3.6.2 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Cc: gnome-i18n , Foundation List X-BeenThere: foundation-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: Discussion relating to the GNOME Foundation List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 09 Jan 2013 22:12:39 -0000 El dc 09 de 01 de 2013 a les 16:56 +0100, en/na Andrea Veri va escriure: > Hello everybody! The GNOME Foundation Membership Committee is proud to announce our newly approved Foundation Members. Please welcome and thank them for their great and valuable contributions over the GNOME Foundation. > > They are: * > > 1. Andreia Gaita (Gluezilla, Webkit#, gir-based C# bindings) > > 2. Praveen Illa (GNOME Telugu translator) > > 3. Marcus Moeller (GNOME Switzerland organizer, bug reporting, > deployment of GNOME installations) > > 4. Carlos Soriano SĂ¡nchez (GNOME Shell message tray) > > 5. Izidor MatuÅ¡ov (RT #13190) (GTG maintainer) > > 6. Carl-Anton Ingmarsson (gvfs, Anjuta, author of the gstreamer > VDPAU plugins) > > 7. James Shubin (Bug reporting, deployment of GNOME installations) > > 8. Anish A. (GNOME Malayalam translator) > > 9. Fabiano FidĂªncio (GNOME Boxes, libosinfo contributions during > GSoC) > > 10. Andika Triwidada (GNOME Indonesian translator) > > 11. Nohemi Fernandez (GNOME Shell accessibility, GNOME Women > promotion) > > 12. Kalev Lember (GHex and Nemiver contributions, GNOME package > maintenance in Fedora, many patches submitted) > > 13. Aleksander Morgado (ModemManager, Tracker and Devhelp code > contributions, many bugs and patches submitted) > > 14. Khoem Sokhem (Khmer Translations Team coordinator) > > 15. Rui Tiago CaĂ§Ă£o Matos (Mutter, GNOME Shell, GNOME Control Center > and GNOME Settings Daemon) > > 16. Eslam Mostafa Abdel-Fattah (GNOME Clocks contributions and bug > reporting) > > 17. Anish Patil (gnome-transliteration and IBus developer, Input > Methods contributions) > > 18. Emily Gonyer (Marketing, GNOME Clocks contributions during GSoC, > GOPW) > > 19. Bertrand Rousseau (Co-founder of Getting Things GNOME, GSoC and > GOPW mentoring) > > 20. Sam Thursfield (Tracker, JHBuild porting, Bug triaging and fixing) > > > * Syntax is Name Surname (area of involvement) > In addition to them, we also have four new Emeritus Members: [1] > > 1. James Henstridge (Initial author of the Python GTK and GNOME > bindings, past Board member) > > 2. Adam Weinberger (en_CA GNOME translation project leader, developed > a backend framework that integrated GNOME into the FreeBSD ports tree) > > 3. Filippo Argiolas (Past Cheese maintainer, many contributions to > Gstreamer) > > 4. Karsten Bräckelmann (Past Release Team member) > > For any further question you may have, feel free to mail us at membership-committee@gnome.org. > Best wishes, > > The GNOME Foundation Membership Committee > > [1] https://live.gnome.org/MembershipCommittee/EmeritusMembers Wow! Amazing to see so many translators becoming foundation members! Congratulations and thanks to all of you for taking your time translating GNOME into your language! Cheers, > -- > Cheers, > > Andrea -- Gil Forcada [ca] guifi.net - una xarxa lliure que no para de crĂ©ixer [en] guifi.net - a non-stopping free network bloc: http://gil.badall.net planet: http://planet.guifi.net From andrew@operationaldynamics.com Wed Jan 9 22:15:00 2013 Return-Path: X-Original-To: foundation-list@gnome.org Delivered-To: foundation-list@gnome.org Received: from localhost (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CF18F750606 for ; Wed, 9 Jan 2013 22:15:00 +0000 (UTC) X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at gnome.org X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -1.9 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.9 tagged_above=-999 required=2 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9] autolearn=ham Received: from menubar.gnome.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (menubar.gnome.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id uSAwjQspcU-k for ; Wed, 9 Jan 2013 22:14:47 +0000 (UTC) Received: from roomen.pair.com (roomen.pair.com [209.68.1.131]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A45AB7505D4 for ; Wed, 9 Jan 2013 22:14:47 +0000 (UTC) Received: from [192.168.253.35] (unknown [150.101.114.203]) by roomen.pair.com (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 49F128FED7 for ; Wed, 9 Jan 2013 17:15:16 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: <1357769712.350.12.camel@turminder-xuss.roaming.operationaldynamics.com> Subject: Setting moderation bit for members who consistently hijack topics From: Andrew Cowie To: foundation-list@gnome.org Date: Thu, 10 Jan 2013 09:15:12 +1100 Organization: Operational Dynamics Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg="pgp-sha256"; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="=-jfIibiTCSAtFdgX45YHK" X-Mailer: Evolution 3.6.0-0ubuntu3 Mime-Version: 1.0 X-BeenThere: foundation-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: Discussion relating to the GNOME Foundation List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 09 Jan 2013 22:15:01 -0000 --=-jfIibiTCSAtFdgX45YHK Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Would it be possible to set the moderation bit for Richard Stallman's posts to GNOME lists? As Stormy pointed out, every time there's a conversation about anything he jumps in and swerves off thread. This has been going on for a very long time. People in the GNOME Foundation are the last people who need to be bashed over the head about free software. I don't see any reason for him not to start new threads on topics that are of concern to him as an individual member, but constantly hijacking other people's threads is getting frustrating. It's predictable; I see a foundation-list thread, count to three, and sure enough, there's Richard jumping in with an off-topic rant. Given that Richard has been warned on several occasions and his replies indicate that he doesn't think he's doing anything wrong. I can see no alternative but to moderate his posts. Otherwise, it would seem unsubscribing from foundation-list will be the only way to get away from this anti-social behaviour. Richard's is an important voice in the free software movement, though I don't happen to think his approach is effective in garnering allies or support for his cause, and meanwhile it is causing significant disruption. AfC Sydney --=-jfIibiTCSAtFdgX45YHK Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name="signature.asc" Content-Description: This is a digitally signed message part Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.11 (GNU/Linux) iQIcBAABCAAGBQJQ7evwAAoJENUAEPtctIrqqrcP/RX+mySb6ghGuOVdGEkdinVj NKdwVsAXXnwd+4KFJ4rzIUl6i8qiuJXJzRvFCcTvYdJiiPZKrsQCKuNKmD+2s2tJ PMLEyRR6R3yBbTW1cMhdtDb1MkE+rygK/VVYpEbSQr0NcUQJBaNe3pLU9nxU8klH G/EYqWuy3qJdgAU/j8RaMDOC/7sX/nwlg3u0Ly9PU1hQe+P8Z4EeEafx2XYjcOL2 ZeQo01LWCHjgEvF9fyGURrnRerhcwXEdKO1te2+MSn1hTR3boKCj4GenSNSsjooZ Uu5ZUO6MguZ5lUHX8FT1a69+ZYkU0aWVuM0FVByXBgV09kQr2Z4aimzZ6EGGCwc6 wOpTwT+i72uccHRBSP3CYnIjzXU1t+aqPMXbGrXUxejpRi5BUc87u2K8Ul28B/vV bGqcERG4gjTNSDqCfsNxbOFnr/JnlFvfJ2plWLo89b+34B+AfqjduihZHPzxsNbQ ynLCTUFdlIg1kqZ7ovG+AXo9f1GNhHX7LKoyFeaqyGOqSZuazEPGoHhooCfWwLZl R/j7tvV0pz1yjb0XlzscCu8gMsjrmevFwDuxrEQkMRoFsPyLXSTi/D+xYpmSugRU 1mtQn3BB7PA4plhRloxlZLFlPakifa924wc4yu/VGtM/f0LNQ6eHikbugnIxhKfb 6WTB5EBelIwoYv+ig7LM =sq+F -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --=-jfIibiTCSAtFdgX45YHK-- From tobiasmue@gnome.org Wed Jan 9 22:28:38 2013 Return-Path: X-Original-To: foundation-list@gnome.org Delivered-To: foundation-list@gnome.org Received: from localhost (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7E2DD750650 for ; Wed, 9 Jan 2013 22:28:38 +0000 (UTC) X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at gnome.org X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -1.121 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.121 tagged_above=-999 required=2 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, SPF_NEUTRAL=0.779] autolearn=no Received: from menubar.gnome.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (menubar.gnome.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id GxZjvuFdH32k for ; Wed, 9 Jan 2013 22:28:25 +0000 (UTC) Received: from mail.cryptobitch.de (cryptobitch.de [88.198.7.68]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5F5157505D4 for ; Wed, 9 Jan 2013 22:28:25 +0000 (UTC) Received: from [192.168.0.107] (port-34815.pppoe.wtnet.de [46.59.186.216]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-CAMELLIA256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by mail.cryptobitch.de (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 8DD6E3BD46D; Wed, 9 Jan 2013 23:28:54 +0100 (CET) Message-ID: <50EDEF24.7040002@gnome.org> Date: Wed, 09 Jan 2013 23:28:52 +0100 From: Tobias Mueller User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux x86_64; rv:17.0) Gecko/17.0 Thunderbird/17.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Andrew Cowie Subject: Re: Setting moderation bit for members who consistently hijack topics References: <1357769712.350.12.camel@turminder-xuss.roaming.operationaldynamics.com> In-Reply-To: <1357769712.350.12.camel@turminder-xuss.roaming.operationaldynamics.com> X-Enigmail-Version: 1.4.6 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="------------enigCCE56579463189563B50EDDD" Cc: foundation-list@gnome.org X-BeenThere: foundation-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: Discussion relating to the GNOME Foundation List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 09 Jan 2013 22:28:38 -0000 This is an OpenPGP/MIME signed message (RFC 2440 and 3156) --------------enigCCE56579463189563B50EDDD Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Heya, On 09.01.2013 23:15, Andrew Cowie wrote: > Would it be possible to set the moderation bit for Richard Stallman's > posts to GNOME lists? sure it would be. The list is managed by mailman and it has that feature.= > As Stormy pointed out, every time there's a conversation about anything= he jumps in and swerves off thread. I see neither the "every time" nor the "swerving off" part. Even if I did, I hope that it takes some more effort like providing references before being able to block someone from posting to GNOME mailing lists. Proof: > but constantly hijacking other people's threads is getting > frustrating. You can probably tell your client easily to not display mails in these instances then. I don't think that your personal frustration should be the reason for everyone not to receive some type of email. Cheers, Tobi --------------enigCCE56579463189563B50EDDD Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name="signature.asc" Content-Description: OpenPGP digital signature Content-Disposition: attachment; filename="signature.asc" -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.12 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with undefined - http://www.enigmail.net/ iEYEARECAAYFAlDt7yQACgkQ9woCkGwwGBP9agCdFN8lZgzEXMj6oDSWKRvuMyr9 sAYAnR+/JewNfXC1zpxFspNDdQ3iEq2A =auhT -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --------------enigCCE56579463189563B50EDDD-- From karen@gnome.org Wed Jan 9 23:37:14 2013 Return-Path: X-Original-To: foundation-list@gnome.org Delivered-To: foundation-list@gnome.org Received: from localhost (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6A3D7750650; Wed, 9 Jan 2013 23:37:14 +0000 (UTC) X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at gnome.org X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -3.421 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-3.421 tagged_above=-999 required=2 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_MED=-2.3, SPF_NEUTRAL=0.779] autolearn=ham Received: from menubar.gnome.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (menubar.gnome.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id o-u477jhX+hu; Wed, 9 Jan 2013 23:37:12 +0000 (UTC) Received: from pure.motives.com (pure.motives.com [207.192.71.45]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8392975063A; Wed, 9 Jan 2013 23:37:12 +0000 (UTC) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by pure.motives.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7570A136A9A; Wed, 9 Jan 2013 18:37:42 -0500 (EST) Received: from pure.motives.com ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (pure.motives.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id O7cHuPaem17M; Wed, 9 Jan 2013 18:37:41 -0500 (EST) Received: from secure.motives.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by pure.motives.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 42219136A6A; Wed, 9 Jan 2013 18:37:39 -0500 (EST) Received: from 184.152.52.83 (SquirrelMail authenticated user karen) by secure.motives.com with HTTP; Wed, 9 Jan 2013 18:37:41 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: In-Reply-To: <50EDEF24.7040002@gnome.org> References: <1357769712.350.12.camel@turminder-xuss.roaming.operationaldynamics.com> <50EDEF24.7040002@gnome.org> Date: Wed, 9 Jan 2013 18:37:41 -0500 (EST) Subject: Re: Setting moderation bit for members who consistently hijack topics From: "Karen Sandler" To: "Tobias Mueller" User-Agent: SquirrelMail/1.4.15 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain;charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Importance: Normal Cc: foundation-list@gnome.org, Andrew Cowie X-BeenThere: foundation-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list Reply-To: karen@gnome.org List-Id: Discussion relating to the GNOME Foundation List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 09 Jan 2013 23:37:14 -0000 On Wed, January 9, 2013 5:28 pm, Tobias Mueller wrote: > Heya, > > On 09.01.2013 23:15, Andrew Cowie wrote: >> Would it be possible to set the moderation bit for Richard Stallman's >> posts to GNOME lists? > sure it would be. The list is managed by mailman and it has that feature. > >> As Stormy pointed out, every time there's a conversation about anything >> he jumps in and swerves off thread. > I see neither the "every time" nor the "swerving off" part. Even if I > did, I hope that it takes some more effort like providing references > before being able to block someone from posting to GNOME mailing lists. > Proof: > I agree. I should also note that Richard brings up a really solid point in his post, and while he should have started a different thread and perhaps worded it a little differently, his post could be relevant to GNOME Foundation members to read. Moreover, it's probably more polite to make requests about changes to moderation policy off-list to the admins, karen >> but constantly hijacking other people's threads is getting >> frustrating. > You can probably tell your client easily to not display mails in these > instances then. > I don't think that your personal frustration should be the reason for > everyone not to receive some type of email. > > Cheers, > Tobi > > _______________________________________________ > foundation-list mailing list > foundation-list@gnome.org > https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/foundation-list > From rms@gnu.org Thu Jan 10 06:20:05 2013 Return-Path: X-Original-To: foundation-list@gnome.org Delivered-To: foundation-list@gnome.org Received: from localhost (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3BC7B7502BD for ; Thu, 10 Jan 2013 06:20:05 +0000 (UTC) X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at gnome.org X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -6.9 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-6.9 tagged_above=-999 required=2 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_HI=-5, RP_MATCHES_RCVD=0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001] autolearn=ham Received: from menubar.gnome.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (menubar.gnome.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id rhYAp6iI8BTJ for ; Thu, 10 Jan 2013 06:19:52 +0000 (UTC) Received: from fencepost.gnu.org (fencepost.gnu.org [208.118.235.10]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4EB99750180 for ; Thu, 10 Jan 2013 06:19:52 +0000 (UTC) Received: from rms by fencepost.gnu.org with local (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1TtBV0-0008ST-1n; Thu, 10 Jan 2013 01:20:22 -0500 Date: Thu, 10 Jan 2013 01:20:22 -0500 Message-Id: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-15 From: Richard Stallman To: Andrew Cowie In-reply-to: <1357769712.350.12.camel@turminder-xuss.roaming.operationaldynamics.com> (message from Andrew Cowie on Thu, 10 Jan 2013 09:15:12 +1100) Subject: Re: Setting moderation bit for members who consistently hijack topics References: <1357769712.350.12.camel@turminder-xuss.roaming.operationaldynamics.com> Cc: foundation-list@gnome.org X-BeenThere: foundation-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list Reply-To: rms@gnu.org List-Id: Discussion relating to the GNOME Foundation List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 10 Jan 2013 06:20:05 -0000 I'm amazed by the concept of "hijacking topics". I did not realize that a topic was so valuable. I said we should react to spyware _as we would_ to a crime. You called my messages violent theft. Spyware is more grave than posting a message, but your criticism is stronger than mine. My alleged crime, if I understand right, consists of not changing the Subject field. I confess I don't think about the Subject field when I send a reply. This is because I don't know of any reason it would matter much to anyone. Is there some practical reason why the Subject field makes a big difference to you? Does it affect your mail reader's behavior substantially? If changing the subject field helps people, I will try to remember to do it. -- Dr Richard Stallman President, Free Software Foundation 51 Franklin St Boston MA 02110 USA www.fsf.org www.gnu.org Skype: No way! That's nonfree (freedom-denying) software. Use Ekiga or an ordinary phone call From meg387@gmail.com Thu Jan 10 06:27:33 2013 Return-Path: X-Original-To: foundation-list@gnome.org Delivered-To: foundation-list@gnome.org Received: from localhost (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BBB857502BC for ; Thu, 10 Jan 2013 06:27:33 +0000 (UTC) X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at gnome.org X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -2.449 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.449 tagged_above=-999 required=2 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, FREEMAIL_ENVFROM_END_DIGIT=0.25, FREEMAIL_FROM=0.001, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_LOW=-0.7, SPF_PASS=-0.001] autolearn=ham Received: from menubar.gnome.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (menubar.gnome.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id a71E+K77kgsR for ; Thu, 10 Jan 2013 06:27:19 +0000 (UTC) Received: from mail-ob0-f171.google.com (mail-ob0-f171.google.com [209.85.214.171]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4B987750180 for ; Thu, 10 Jan 2013 06:27:19 +0000 (UTC) Received: by mail-ob0-f171.google.com with SMTP id dn14so209878obc.30 for ; Wed, 09 Jan 2013 22:27:50 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :cc:content-type; bh=aOQacDFP6FzWi7ZfRW4BwlFJwWMtjMJrQMrsV+pKDJw=; b=q5E4eYBRxzBA0DXkAjZi1DPyK7yLxnzIBR/r7b6kmst+6Hbqxd1EZtopHNAm7DBLh+ FJ4FOxXKM3wyyLRbdkyGD5G59rNIPNuQ97k6DKa3YfrF9WF1OIcRRGqC5fzk25/hnamw 1CkLv8sxQ+DR3AmbQ4FV4sAlgJB1lZ9MnlVrn/I0JvrLMzw9uGZj2UUrxDy384wnHI6D Wu6vQfKJRRYKkbHXZ1TN1RywCNTaHAJ5N0FzIHJu3qqYEWHPTnb6j8aduWcCUHgtNj9y 3+zVvJUocCWnz8Z8RgwZQjpM18is65HUs9+2OUZzQWYlwvpvFEX09dCEktAZ10LC9mb3 7SWw== MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.182.146.107 with SMTP id tb11mr50105213obb.30.1357799270035; Wed, 09 Jan 2013 22:27:50 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.60.155.201 with HTTP; Wed, 9 Jan 2013 22:27:49 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: References: <1357769712.350.12.camel@turminder-xuss.roaming.operationaldynamics.com> Date: Thu, 10 Jan 2013 00:27:49 -0600 Message-ID: Subject: Re: Setting moderation bit for members who consistently hijack topics From: meg ford To: rms@gnu.org Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=f46d04447fb12ab1c404d2e947c3 Cc: foundation-list@gnome.org, Andrew Cowie X-BeenThere: foundation-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: Discussion relating to the GNOME Foundation List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 10 Jan 2013 06:27:34 -0000 --f46d04447fb12ab1c404d2e947c3 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Hi, On Thu, Jan 10, 2013 at 12:20 AM, Richard Stallman wrote: > Is there some practical reason why the Subject field makes a big > difference to you? Does it affect your mail reader's behavior > substantially? If changing the subject field helps people, I will try > to remember to do it. > It does. Emails are organized in threads based on the subject field in many email clients. That way, rather than trying to sort through emails to follow where different threads in a conversation pick up and leave off, one can simply read the pre-arranged email threads based on whether one is interested in the subject. I think it would make a big difference if you did this. Then people who are interested in hearing your thoughts can read and respond to them and the main topic can also continue. Meg Ford --f46d04447fb12ab1c404d2e947c3 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hi,

On Thu, Jan 10, 2013 at 12:20 AM, Ric= hard Stallman <rms@gnu.org> wrote:
Is there some practical reason why the Subject field makes = a big
difference to you? =A0Does it affect your mail reader's behavior
substantially? =A0If changing the subject field helps people, I will try to remember to do it.

It does. Emails are organi= zed in threads based on the subject field in many email clients. That way, = rather than trying to sort through emails to follow where different threads= in a conversation pick up and leave off, one can simply read the pre-arran= ged email threads based on whether one is interested in the subject.

I think it would make a big difference if you did this. Then people who= are interested in hearing your thoughts can read and respond to them and t= he main topic can also continue.

Meg Ford


--f46d04447fb12ab1c404d2e947c3-- From hadess@hadess.net Thu Jan 10 07:05:20 2013 Return-Path: X-Original-To: foundation-list@gnome.org Delivered-To: foundation-list@gnome.org Received: from localhost (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id F22937502BD; Thu, 10 Jan 2013 07:05:19 +0000 (UTC) X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at gnome.org X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -4.2 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-4.2 tagged_above=-999 required=2 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_MED=-2.3] autolearn=unavailable Received: from menubar.gnome.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (menubar.gnome.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id G5N7DYdj2-zk; Thu, 10 Jan 2013 07:05:18 +0000 (UTC) X-Greylist: delayed 1364 seconds by postgrey-1.34 at menubar.gnome.org; Thu, 10 Jan 2013 07:05:17 UTC Received: from slow3-v.mail.gandi.net (slow3-v.mail.gandi.net [217.70.178.89]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E2E277502BC; Thu, 10 Jan 2013 07:05:17 +0000 (UTC) X-Policy: 217.70.183.197 is whitelisted X-Policy: 217.70.183.197 is whitelisted X-Policy: 217.70.183.197 is whitelisted X-Policy: 217.70.183.197 is whitelisted Received: from relay5-d.mail.gandi.net (relay5-d.mail.gandi.net [217.70.183.197]) by slow3-v.mail.gandi.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id E6A033997D; Thu, 10 Jan 2013 07:43:02 +0100 (CET) X-Originating-IP: 217.70.178.138 Received: from mfilter9-d.gandi.net (mfilter9-d.gandi.net [217.70.178.138]) by relay5-d.mail.gandi.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7CD5241C05D; Thu, 10 Jan 2013 07:42:59 +0100 (CET) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at mfilter9-d.gandi.net Received: from relay5-d.mail.gandi.net ([217.70.183.197]) by mfilter9-d.gandi.net (mfilter9-d.gandi.net [10.0.15.180]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id oQ9w8662ZZmY; Thu, 10 Jan 2013 07:42:58 +0100 (CET) X-Originating-IP: 83.155.44.161 Received: from [192.168.0.27] (mon69-7-83-155-44-161.fbx.proxad.net [83.155.44.161]) (Authenticated sender: hadess@hadess.net) by relay5-d.mail.gandi.net (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id B9BDE41C060; Thu, 10 Jan 2013 07:42:57 +0100 (CET) Message-ID: <1357800176.2148.64.camel@novo> Subject: Re: Setting moderation bit for members who consistently hijack topics From: Bastien Nocera To: karen@gnome.org Date: Thu, 10 Jan 2013 07:42:56 +0100 In-Reply-To: References: <1357769712.350.12.camel@turminder-xuss.roaming.operationaldynamics.com> <50EDEF24.7040002@gnome.org> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="ISO-8859-1" X-Mailer: Evolution 3.6.2 (3.6.2-3.fc18) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: Tobias Mueller , foundation-list@gnome.org, Cowie , Andrew X-BeenThere: foundation-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: Discussion relating to the GNOME Foundation List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 10 Jan 2013 07:05:20 -0000 Hey, On Wed, 2013-01-09 at 18:37 -0500, Karen Sandler wrote: > On Wed, January 9, 2013 5:28 pm, Tobias Mueller wrote: > > Heya, > > > > On 09.01.2013 23:15, Andrew Cowie wrote: > >> Would it be possible to set the moderation bit for Richard Stallman's > >> posts to GNOME lists? > > sure it would be. The list is managed by mailman and it has that feature. > > > >> As Stormy pointed out, every time there's a conversation about anything > >> he jumps in and swerves off thread. > > I see neither the "every time" nor the "swerving off" part. Even if I > > did, I hope that it takes some more effort like providing references > > before being able to block someone from posting to GNOME mailing lists. > > Proof: > > > > I agree. I don't. > I should also note that Richard brings up a really solid point in > his post, Maybe, but it was completely irrelevant to the conversation. It's not the Free Software Foundation's list, but the GNOME Foundation's list, and it wasn't on-topic. > and while he should have started a different thread and perhaps > worded it a little differently, He gets away with things that we would be ostracised for. Before the holidays I kept receiving e-mails from him asking me to call it "GNU/Linux", and then to embrace the FSF when I explained that his repeated mails harmed his message and that I would be more likely to *not* say GNU/Linux because of his actions. Whilst calling me rude. And arguing that he wasn't. > his post could be relevant to GNOME > Foundation members to read. I think his thoughts have been plenty publicised through other channels. > Moreover, it's probably more polite to make requests about changes to > moderation policy off-list to the admins, Given that it's not possible to e-mail everyone but him, I certainly think it's the correct way to proceed. So he can answer in passive aggressive style. Finally, I'd really like to know what contributions he made to GNOME that would make him eligible to become a Foundation member. I cannot find any. Cheers From ak-47@gmx.net Thu Jan 10 09:17:55 2013 Return-Path: X-Original-To: foundation-list@gnome.org Delivered-To: foundation-list@gnome.org Received: from localhost (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D71817506F5 for ; Thu, 10 Jan 2013 09:17:55 +0000 (UTC) X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at gnome.org X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -1.649 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.649 tagged_above=-999 required=2 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, FREEMAIL_ENVFROM_END_DIGIT=0.25, FREEMAIL_FROM=0.001, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE=-0.0001, RP_MATCHES_RCVD=0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001] autolearn=no Received: from menubar.gnome.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (menubar.gnome.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id aPQK0Z8Wrpv6 for ; Thu, 10 Jan 2013 09:17:54 +0000 (UTC) Received: from mout.gmx.net (mout.gmx.net [212.227.17.21]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0E1A4750180 for ; Thu, 10 Jan 2013 09:17:53 +0000 (UTC) Received: from mailout-de.gmx.net ([10.1.76.31]) by mrigmx.server.lan (mrigmx001) with ESMTP (Nemesis) id 0M2aaZ-1T1XA23bU5-00sLqi for ; Thu, 10 Jan 2013 10:18:23 +0100 Received: (qmail invoked by alias); 10 Jan 2013 09:18:23 -0000 Received: from ip-84-42-203-5.net.upcbroadband.cz (EHLO [192.168.1.15]) [84.42.203.5] by mail.gmx.net (mp031) with SMTP; 10 Jan 2013 10:18:23 +0100 X-Authenticated: #726810 X-Provags-ID: V01U2FsdGVkX192+IxUCqJ2pHxhVCWZYOKrxiixQ0eaxBQcLq4fXo 73hg7Y3ELsxtUP Message-ID: <1357809502.15375.92.camel@embrace.foo> Subject: Re: Setting moderation bit for members who consistently hijack topics From: Andre Klapper To: foundation-list@gnome.org Date: Thu, 10 Jan 2013 10:18:22 +0100 In-Reply-To: <1357800176.2148.64.camel@novo> References: <1357769712.350.12.camel@turminder-xuss.roaming.operationaldynamics.com> <50EDEF24.7040002@gnome.org> <1357800176.2148.64.camel@novo> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" X-Mailer: Evolution 3.2.3 (3.2.3-3.fc16) Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Y-GMX-Trusted: 0 X-BeenThere: foundation-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: Discussion relating to the GNOME Foundation List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 10 Jan 2013 09:17:56 -0000 On Thu, 2013-01-10 at 07:42 +0100, Bastien Nocera wrote: > Finally, I'd really like to know what contributions he made to GNOME > that would make him eligible to become a Foundation member. I cannot > find any. I asked the very same question on #foundation IRC yesterday. One theory that came up was "advocacy". In any case I'd also like to know. Currently most "contributions" I see are topics getting side-tracked into nit-picky naming issues (it's GNU/Linux, it's Free Software) though everybody knows and understands what the original poster intended to express. These repeated posting are useless to me. Still I have to go through them as a posting in an otherwise interesting thread could theoretically also be interesting and even on-topic. I also see criticizing GNOME partners as "pretty bad" or individuals which are employed by GNOME partners are marked as "working for X" which is used as an argument against them, despite them writing "all of my opinions and views expressed in this email are solely my own" before. I normally try to keep away from people with bad influence and stop energy, so I guess I am going to unsubscribe from this mailing list again. That's also why I was not subscribed to this list for years while being a foundation member: Too much noise and distraction, thanks to a very small number of vocal individuals that seemed to not bring much additional value to conversations. andre PS: To those people proposing to use email filters: I'd still get quoted answers and my client cannot "mute" a conversation like GMail. Awaiting now the potential "GMail was mentioned, Google is bad!" reply. -- Andre Klapper | ak-47@gmx.net http://blogs.gnome.org/aklapper/ From bkuhn@ebb.org Thu Jan 10 18:24:01 2013 Return-Path: X-Original-To: foundation-list@gnome.org Delivered-To: foundation-list@gnome.org Received: from localhost (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C7C0375090E for ; Thu, 10 Jan 2013 18:24:01 +0000 (UTC) X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at gnome.org X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -1.9 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.9 tagged_above=-999 required=2 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, RP_MATCHES_RCVD=0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001] autolearn=ham Received: from menubar.gnome.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (menubar.gnome.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id QbN2cKhlD4CC for ; Thu, 10 Jan 2013 18:24:00 +0000 (UTC) Received: from catholic.ebb.org (catholic.ebb.org [67.207.139.67]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0E6187508E5 for ; Thu, 10 Jan 2013 18:23:59 +0000 (UTC) Received: from localhost (unknown [206.217.92.186]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES128-SHA (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by catholic.ebb.org (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 58203E015D; Thu, 10 Jan 2013 13:28:51 -0500 (EST) Date: Thu, 10 Jan 2013 12:36:02 -0500 From: "Bradley M. Kuhn" To: foundation-list@gnome.org Subject: Are membership renewals generally discussed publicly on the list? (was Re: Setting moderation bit for members who consistently hijack topics) Message-ID: <20130110173602.GA19492@ebb.org> References: <1357769712.350.12.camel@turminder-xuss.roaming.operationaldynamics.com> <50EDEF24.7040002@gnome.org> <1357800176.2148.64.camel@novo> <1357809502.15375.92.camel@embrace.foo> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <1357809502.15375.92.camel@embrace.foo> User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.20 (2009-06-14) X-BeenThere: foundation-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: Discussion relating to the GNOME Foundation List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 10 Jan 2013 18:24:02 -0000 Is it standard procedure for credentials of Foundation members to be discussed on-list like this -- particularly for existing members in good standing? For example, I don't recall my own membership being discussed herein when I was renewed; it was done in private email with the Membership Committee. My GNOME contributions have indeed been eclectic, non-regular and, well, just plain "different" than the norm. For example, I've helped with licensing policy discussions and drafting, and I've done some work to defend GNOME 3 publicly against the "Linus Torvalds attacks". Meanwhile, upon reading this sub-thread and considering my own contributions to the GNOME Foundation, I'm frankly left wondering if my membership would be "next" to be called into question on this thread. I imagine that I'd feel *really* uncomfortable and even personally offended if my own membership were being called into question publicly on this list! Thus, IMO, it frankly seems unnecessarily aggressive and downright inappropriate to question someone's fitness for membership on the public list like this, and I hope that folks will show restraint and raise any such issues privately among the Membership Committee and the member in question. -- bkuhn From jra@google.com Thu Jan 10 19:00:57 2013 Return-Path: X-Original-To: foundation-list@gnome.org Delivered-To: foundation-list@gnome.org Received: from localhost (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9D695750919 for ; Thu, 10 Jan 2013 19:00:57 +0000 (UTC) X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at gnome.org X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -2.699 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.699 tagged_above=-999 required=2 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_LOW=-0.7, RP_MATCHES_RCVD=0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001] autolearn=ham Received: from menubar.gnome.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (menubar.gnome.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id xqfTALGUc-pm for ; Thu, 10 Jan 2013 19:00:54 +0000 (UTC) Received: from mail-we0-f172.google.com (mail-we0-f172.google.com [74.125.82.172]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id F1E747508E5 for ; Thu, 10 Jan 2013 19:00:53 +0000 (UTC) Received: by mail-we0-f172.google.com with SMTP id r3so455885wey.3 for ; Thu, 10 Jan 2013 11:01:23 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=google.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :cc:content-type; bh=81GdtZY5UXT10cZElWUhGl6dMqcV3zrvtXehuxRqmHU=; b=nFaGqn/iZp7XTjTSVSXLDAEEuxqMaM6kDl50Ud7bB1adpYRJZ7ftQ8DNsesQ0jpE30 Znt8B0ZYuAghtedxlxBJsaW2uZVpOiAnpHJUI97Pzv80tRZBOBYhc7zSEubxhel2Vlbi qbGIWgw2ax8aLb9Uv8tYvpOWadNN5HSBhlQl4zYkFCglbpHCHvREccJSo5P+xXiMJClK /7hviZm3YbbPinuR2U4vmgTgY4NrFfsNE+GIQ48GZEcWWfVxP3AEdQ+s3qBLnxQy978N NXUa+F8ZGgmEWSND+Zo/KXj5kmeJtMsSIc+MyKsPbn77JN9hKEg3SZOnJq5LuQ1Abu7D RH+g== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=google.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :cc:content-type:x-gm-message-state; bh=81GdtZY5UXT10cZElWUhGl6dMqcV3zrvtXehuxRqmHU=; b=TADZ+VfNEOFC/8RNrFfTCidH8IT5wlJ8WzYDTYIJewIZGf5ZS2Bu7iH7FOLU2zVDbp QJUKE6tz8q5ANWxF/R7tUKfSYhkfvRTxB6M0fXA3m9PYKnDf1cGo6FHQTbg6KCwIG2qP P6TCcpVmfap7ITT2+KCAGsxa90buiNVbg8G0wc9IAROVeOFTvEI41NDmy/5HszKxOJ5S r03Q0puv6pCAuhF6zVMXmuwLd9RCCH0B9971+MKav0P4nRjG2b6G1ulVhcc7yWwikDI1 8j+FmrKT8S6dt4O0qbKg44emzot0lCtkzElirSzGA+5h/ulLnFpCwC1ElLp4TNP8HML1 it5Q== MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.194.78.207 with SMTP id d15mr116372005wjx.52.1357844483499; Thu, 10 Jan 2013 11:01:23 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.216.47.135 with HTTP; Thu, 10 Jan 2013 11:01:23 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: <20130110173602.GA19492@ebb.org> References: <1357769712.350.12.camel@turminder-xuss.roaming.operationaldynamics.com> <50EDEF24.7040002@gnome.org> <1357800176.2148.64.camel@novo> <1357809502.15375.92.camel@embrace.foo> <20130110173602.GA19492@ebb.org> Date: Thu, 10 Jan 2013 11:01:23 -0800 Message-ID: Subject: Re: Are membership renewals generally discussed publicly on the list? (was Re: Setting moderation bit for members who consistently hijack topics) From: Jeremy Allison To: "Bradley M. Kuhn" Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=047d7bfcf91a19667804d2f3ce7d X-Gm-Message-State: ALoCoQml8vqMjUSX4GkugZiW+RNXhKna8N+yKYUtUz8rtfTxV7kCb5B4kB2+kEkOw4qWHtJCysjC1mjA4ovP5ATFO/JVc80J3bVj8evvbbCkrzH5wjbT+nl3tPKYOlokZPh1Ou41HP71CUHPIRnKy5jdYUxEhm6+NEmwsUhwgqijUY2irFCuAj6Km78oho06Eqtt72Sk8lp3MI9vtqGvr8tDeqy0RjCXgw== Cc: "foundation-list@gnome.org" X-BeenThere: foundation-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: Discussion relating to the GNOME Foundation List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 10 Jan 2013 19:00:57 -0000 --047d7bfcf91a19667804d2f3ce7d Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Yes. This seems to have gone beyond the realm of reasonableness and into a personal attack on another Foundation member. Please don't do this. I am only on this list due to the benefit of sitting on top of Google's pile of money, some of which we contribute to Gnome. I am too busy with my own Free Software project to be able to directly contribute to Gnome code. Will I be the next to be attacked for not being sufficiently useful to Gnome ? Jeremy. On Thu, Jan 10, 2013 at 9:36 AM, Bradley M. Kuhn wrote: > Is it standard procedure for credentials of Foundation members to be > discussed on-list like this -- particularly for existing members in good > standing? > > For example, I don't recall my own membership being discussed herein when I > was renewed; it was done in private email with the Membership Committee. > > My GNOME contributions have indeed been eclectic, non-regular and, well, > just > plain "different" than the norm. For example, I've helped with licensing > policy discussions and drafting, and I've done some work to defend GNOME 3 > publicly against the "Linus Torvalds attacks". > > Meanwhile, upon reading this sub-thread and considering my own > contributions > to the GNOME Foundation, I'm frankly left wondering if my membership would > be > "next" to be called into question on this thread. I imagine that I'd feel > *really* uncomfortable and even personally offended if my own membership > were > being called into question publicly on this list! > > Thus, IMO, it frankly seems unnecessarily aggressive and downright > inappropriate to question someone's fitness for membership on the public > list > like this, and I hope that folks will show restraint and raise any such > issues privately among the Membership Committee and the member in question. > > -- bkuhn > _______________________________________________ > foundation-list mailing list > foundation-list@gnome.org > https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/foundation-list > --047d7bfcf91a19667804d2f3ce7d Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Yes. This seems to have= gone beyond the realm of reasonableness and into a personal attack on anot= her Foundation member. Please don't do this.

I am only on this l= ist due to the benefit of sitting on top of Google's pile of money, som= e of which we contribute to Gnome. I am too busy with my own Free Software = project to be able to directly contribute to Gnome code. Will I be the next= to be attacked for not being sufficiently useful to Gnome ?

Jeremy.


On Thu, Jan 10, 2013= at 9:36 AM, Bradley M. Kuhn <bkuhn@ebb.org> wrote:
Is it standard procedure for credentials of = Foundation members to be
discussed on-list like this -- particularly for existing members in good standing?

For example, I don't recall my own membership being discussed herein wh= en I
was renewed; it was done in private email with the Membership Committee.
My GNOME contributions have indeed been eclectic, non-regular and, well, ju= st
plain "different" than the norm. =C2=A0For example, I've help= ed with licensing
policy discussions and drafting, and I've done some work to defend GNOM= E 3
publicly against the "Linus Torvalds attacks".

Meanwhile, upon reading this sub-thread and considering my own contribution= s
to the GNOME Foundation, I'm frankly left wondering if my membership wo= uld be
"next" to be called into question on this thread. =C2=A0I imagine= that I'd feel
*really* uncomfortable and even personally offended if my own membership we= re
being called into question publicly on this list!

Thus, IMO, it frankly seems unnecessarily aggressive and downright
inappropriate to question someone's fitness for membership on the publi= c list
like this, and I hope that folks will show restraint and raise any such
issues privately among the Membership Committee and the member in question.=

=C2=A0 =C2=A0-- bkuhn
_______________________________________________
foundation-list mailing list
foundation-list@gnome.org<= br> https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/foundation-list

--047d7bfcf91a19667804d2f3ce7d-- From arclnx@gmail.com Thu Jan 10 20:17:51 2013 Return-Path: X-Original-To: foundation-list@gnome.org Delivered-To: foundation-list@gnome.org Received: from localhost (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6FAA07507F7 for ; Thu, 10 Jan 2013 20:17:51 +0000 (UTC) X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at gnome.org X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -2.599 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.599 tagged_above=-999 required=2 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, FREEMAIL_FROM=0.001, HK_RANDOM_ENVFROM=0.001, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_LOW=-0.7, SPF_PASS=-0.001] autolearn=ham Received: from menubar.gnome.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (menubar.gnome.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id YiGQWb72R-mJ for ; Thu, 10 Jan 2013 20:17:48 +0000 (UTC) Received: from mail-ee0-f53.google.com (mail-ee0-f53.google.com [74.125.83.53]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 62EFF750946 for ; Thu, 10 Jan 2013 20:17:46 +0000 (UTC) Received: by mail-ee0-f53.google.com with SMTP id c1so491530eek.12 for ; Thu, 10 Jan 2013 12:18:17 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:sender:in-reply-to:references:date :x-google-sender-auth:message-id:subject:from:to:cc:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; bh=2A45+nby9OzMVCrmvhs5SlGqKpoNI0wfM37YRtSnlU0=; b=aBfzVYYXA8XNB+zsvG+s7KRWeXkFNr5rYJtBMRq/KcyNha8AovB2kMd+yM81IvdyyJ +0YwPJ45Tx0MMzc5yA5u6miUAjCktuYPL7ynFn4rcsgLh85sxxBXeDFufXL7/aJjLM9H 0NXU/MbVOBCCU9IOZPQdTsYR69KsINRqUV/UzJB3A4D/UpgmylsO2ZvBBMZC6CiNTJZL qwuFiSNngDrUtUZuQNdfKH0EXs+mC8GqGREHCkF4QWhmHeF/CyVaKSTyLv/br+quwEBV c+d0LL4B8rQdho3ZYK10b3/WALlFw0HrJRLjwqvV4amKyz6lW+6gOWLpWvnedVAHSz4V IIlw== MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.14.194.195 with SMTP id m43mr195858920een.44.1357849096937; Thu, 10 Jan 2013 12:18:16 -0800 (PST) Sender: arclnx@gmail.com Received: by 10.223.178.136 with HTTP; Thu, 10 Jan 2013 12:18:16 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: References: <1357769712.350.12.camel@turminder-xuss.roaming.operationaldynamics.com> <50EDEF24.7040002@gnome.org> <1357800176.2148.64.camel@novo> <1357809502.15375.92.camel@embrace.foo> <20130110173602.GA19492@ebb.org> Date: Thu, 10 Jan 2013 20:18:16 +0000 X-Google-Sender-Auth: 73QbJiYkSc6bzGQK9IU6qSXNQcQ Message-ID: Subject: Re: Are membership renewals generally discussed publicly on the list? (was Re: Setting moderation bit for members who consistently hijack topics) From: Alberto Ruiz To: Jeremy Allison Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Cc: "foundation-list@gnome.org" X-BeenThere: foundation-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: Discussion relating to the GNOME Foundation List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 10 Jan 2013 20:17:52 -0000 For what is worth, I don't support the idea of getting Richard out of the GNOME Foundation, nor the way that this idea is being discussed and nor the suggestion of moderating his posts by default. "I disagree with what you say, but I will defend to the death your right to say it" - Fran=E7ois-Marie Arouet, aka Voltaire (1694-1778) 2013/1/10 Jeremy Allison : > Yes. This seems to have gone beyond the realm of reasonableness and into = a > personal attack on another Foundation member. Please don't do this. > > I am only on this list due to the benefit of sitting on top of Google's p= ile > of money, some of which we contribute to Gnome. I am too busy with my own > Free Software project to be able to directly contribute to Gnome code. Wi= ll > I be the next to be attacked for not being sufficiently useful to Gnome ? > > Jeremy. > > > On Thu, Jan 10, 2013 at 9:36 AM, Bradley M. Kuhn wrote: >> >> Is it standard procedure for credentials of Foundation members to be >> discussed on-list like this -- particularly for existing members in good >> standing? >> >> For example, I don't recall my own membership being discussed herein whe= n >> I >> was renewed; it was done in private email with the Membership Committee. >> >> My GNOME contributions have indeed been eclectic, non-regular and, well, >> just >> plain "different" than the norm. For example, I've helped with licensin= g >> policy discussions and drafting, and I've done some work to defend GNOME= 3 >> publicly against the "Linus Torvalds attacks". >> >> Meanwhile, upon reading this sub-thread and considering my own >> contributions >> to the GNOME Foundation, I'm frankly left wondering if my membership wou= ld >> be >> "next" to be called into question on this thread. I imagine that I'd fe= el >> *really* uncomfortable and even personally offended if my own membership >> were >> being called into question publicly on this list! >> >> Thus, IMO, it frankly seems unnecessarily aggressive and downright >> inappropriate to question someone's fitness for membership on the public >> list >> like this, and I hope that folks will show restraint and raise any such >> issues privately among the Membership Committee and the member in >> question. >> >> -- bkuhn >> _______________________________________________ >> foundation-list mailing list >> foundation-list@gnome.org >> https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/foundation-list > > > > _______________________________________________ > foundation-list mailing list > foundation-list@gnome.org > https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/foundation-list > -- Cheers, Alberto Ruiz From rms@gnu.org Thu Jan 10 20:38:15 2013 Return-Path: X-Original-To: foundation-list@gnome.org Delivered-To: foundation-list@gnome.org Received: from localhost (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2089A750982 for ; Thu, 10 Jan 2013 20:38:15 +0000 (UTC) X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at gnome.org X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -6.9 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-6.9 tagged_above=-999 required=2 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_HI=-5, RP_MATCHES_RCVD=0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001] autolearn=ham Received: from menubar.gnome.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (menubar.gnome.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id xfBLKuX8cJKE for ; Thu, 10 Jan 2013 20:38:13 +0000 (UTC) Received: from fencepost.gnu.org (fencepost.gnu.org [208.118.235.10]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 880C27507F7 for ; Thu, 10 Jan 2013 20:38:13 +0000 (UTC) Received: from rms by fencepost.gnu.org with local (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1TtOte-0002TE-8u; Thu, 10 Jan 2013 15:38:42 -0500 Date: Thu, 10 Jan 2013 15:38:42 -0500 Message-Id: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-15 From: Richard Stallman To: meg ford In-reply-to: (message from meg ford on Thu, 10 Jan 2013 00:27:49 -0600) Subject: Is it really possible to "hijack" a topic? References: <1357769712.350.12.camel@turminder-xuss.roaming.operationaldynamics.com> Cc: foundation-list@gnome.org, andrew@operationaldynamics.com X-BeenThere: foundation-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list Reply-To: rms@gnu.org List-Id: Discussion relating to the GNOME Foundation List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 10 Jan 2013 20:38:15 -0000 I think it would make a big difference if you did this. Then people who are interested in hearing your thoughts can read and respond to them and the main topic can also continue. Discussion of hosting can continue just fine -- my messages don't stop people from talking about it. Nonetheless, I will try to change subject lines in the future, for other people's convenience. I will try to remember to do so, but I am not sure I will remember, because I start few discussions on foundation-list -- just a few times a year. Next time is likely to be months from now, and I may have forgotten all about this discussion by then. If I forget, please remind me and I will do it. In this case, I did not think I was starting a discussion. I intended only to point people at the article. I could have changed the subject field nonetheless, and in the future do so (if I remember) even in marginal cases like this. However, my point is that the other person, the one who started really Ubuntu at length, also had the chance to change it. -- Dr Richard Stallman President, Free Software Foundation 51 Franklin St Boston MA 02110 USA www.fsf.org www.gnu.org Skype: No way! That's nonfree (freedom-denying) software. Use Ekiga or an ordinary phone call From rms@gnu.org Thu Jan 10 20:38:17 2013 Return-Path: X-Original-To: foundation-list@gnome.org Delivered-To: foundation-list@gnome.org Received: from localhost (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1789C750987; Thu, 10 Jan 2013 20:38:17 +0000 (UTC) X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at gnome.org X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -6.9 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-6.9 tagged_above=-999 required=2 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_HI=-5, RP_MATCHES_RCVD=0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001] autolearn=unavailable Received: from menubar.gnome.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (menubar.gnome.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id U0ehkVbfr4bd; Thu, 10 Jan 2013 20:38:15 +0000 (UTC) Received: from fencepost.gnu.org (fencepost.gnu.org [208.118.235.10]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4326B7507F7; Thu, 10 Jan 2013 20:38:15 +0000 (UTC) Received: from rms by fencepost.gnu.org with local (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1TtOtg-0002UP-Mw; Thu, 10 Jan 2013 15:38:44 -0500 Date: Thu, 10 Jan 2013 15:38:44 -0500 Message-Id: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-15 From: Richard Stallman To: Bastien Nocera In-reply-to: <1357800176.2148.64.camel@novo> (message from Bastien Nocera on Thu, 10 Jan 2013 07:42:56 +0100) Subject: Re: Setting moderation bit for members who consistently hijack topics References: <1357769712.350.12.camel@turminder-xuss.roaming.operationaldynamics.com> <50EDEF24.7040002@gnome.org> <1357800176.2148.64.camel@novo> Cc: tobiasmue@gnome.org, foundation-list@gnome.org, andrew@operationaldynamics.com, Andrew@menubar.gnome.org X-BeenThere: foundation-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list Reply-To: rms@gnu.org List-Id: Discussion relating to the GNOME Foundation List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 10 Jan 2013 20:38:17 -0000 Before the holidays I kept receiving e-mails from him asking me to call it "GNU/Linux", and then to embrace the FSF when I explained that his repeated mails harmed his message and that I would be more likely to *not* say GNU/Linux because of his actions. You said that you intentionally give the credit for GNU to others by calling it "Linux", out of personal hostility towards me. You said your hostility was based on disapproval of a couple of things I have done. I asked you to discuss those events so I could defend my conduct. I also suggested that they were small compared with my career, and could not outweigh all the rest. But you refused to discuss the question. It seems that you want to nurse and cling to your hostility. That's my view of the conversation we had. I would like to post those messages so people can judge for themselves. Ok? GNOME shouldn't do anything based on personal grudges. -- Dr Richard Stallman President, Free Software Foundation 51 Franklin St Boston MA 02110 USA www.fsf.org www.gnu.org Skype: No way! That's nonfree (freedom-denying) software. Use Ekiga or an ordinary phone call From rms@gnu.org Thu Jan 10 20:38:41 2013 Return-Path: X-Original-To: foundation-list@gnome.org Delivered-To: foundation-list@gnome.org Received: from localhost (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0F41C750982 for ; Thu, 10 Jan 2013 20:38:41 +0000 (UTC) X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at gnome.org X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -6.9 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-6.9 tagged_above=-999 required=2 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_HI=-5, RP_MATCHES_RCVD=0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001] autolearn=ham Received: from menubar.gnome.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (menubar.gnome.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id iD+UeUO8FBrY for ; Thu, 10 Jan 2013 20:38:39 +0000 (UTC) Received: from fencepost.gnu.org (fencepost.gnu.org [208.118.235.10]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 86AFB750946 for ; Thu, 10 Jan 2013 20:38:39 +0000 (UTC) Received: from rms by fencepost.gnu.org with local (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1TtOu5-0002oO-K5; Thu, 10 Jan 2013 15:39:09 -0500 Date: Thu, 10 Jan 2013 15:39:09 -0500 Message-Id: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-15 From: Richard Stallman To: Andre Klapper In-reply-to: <1357809502.15375.92.camel@embrace.foo> (message from Andre Klapper on Thu, 10 Jan 2013 10:18:22 +0100) Subject: Re: Setting moderation bit for members who consistently hijack topics References: <1357769712.350.12.camel@turminder-xuss.roaming.operationaldynamics.com> <50EDEF24.7040002@gnome.org> <1357800176.2148.64.camel@novo> <1357809502.15375.92.camel@embrace.foo> Cc: foundation-list@gnome.org X-BeenThere: foundation-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list Reply-To: rms@gnu.org List-Id: Discussion relating to the GNOME Foundation List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 10 Jan 2013 20:38:41 -0000 Awaiting now the potential "GMail was mentioned, Google is bad!" reply. You seem to be attacking me for things you imagine I might say. At least it makes your bias clear. And since you just raised the issue of GMail, shouldn't you have changed the Subject field? Remember, the thread you're posting in started with the accusation that I "hijacked a topic" by posting a single sentence about Ubuntu without changing the Subject field. If that makes me a nasty topic hijacker, are you one also? Perhaps neither of us deserves that accusation. About GMail I have nothing to say. -- Dr Richard Stallman President, Free Software Foundation 51 Franklin St Boston MA 02110 USA www.fsf.org www.gnu.org Skype: No way! That's nonfree (freedom-denying) software. Use Ekiga or an ordinary phone call From meg387@gmail.com Thu Jan 10 20:44:16 2013 Return-Path: X-Original-To: foundation-list@gnome.org Delivered-To: foundation-list@gnome.org Received: from localhost (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 03FE97507F7 for ; Thu, 10 Jan 2013 20:44:16 +0000 (UTC) X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at gnome.org X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -2.449 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.449 tagged_above=-999 required=2 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, FREEMAIL_ENVFROM_END_DIGIT=0.25, FREEMAIL_FROM=0.001, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_LOW=-0.7, SPF_PASS=-0.001] autolearn=ham Received: from menubar.gnome.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (menubar.gnome.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id qeJf0rquIFUV for ; Thu, 10 Jan 2013 20:44:02 +0000 (UTC) Received: from mail-oa0-f53.google.com (mail-oa0-f53.google.com [209.85.219.53]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CA2D57500CB for ; Thu, 10 Jan 2013 20:44:01 +0000 (UTC) Received: by mail-oa0-f53.google.com with SMTP id j6so1057213oag.40 for ; Thu, 10 Jan 2013 12:44:31 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :cc:content-type; bh=XN2dSo5fqhrpRop8M1qKgMmTgSRXEeS/N7Oody9W9qs=; b=SCtJEm5792b9+jK9RiaUrjkzKTSYXqohGl6DeNYePyCph0HmUyPkzUoQFJDf9VS+nr rK+rtSKD5En+thfH/WkTYe3JM8kxb4m3x6MMuLu73sbZqbyy1dOPRRq60AwUeZlh57jD EN1pFA47jNnbRgqo8wfxSpUm3N5wcUCZcYzJDh8L0F2s7JDnnEzNWDm7l8hA6kM7fmkr 2QP2rEjFhkwQi5S5WprwVl7xIB+uIQEjTUDGUGDlnO+5BDCfVrR88GkregNBQahApyfz +FRKjyKr5r+wgdSHTorbsPa+ePKXaPlFl1rL1IRvipqPKH7763spXPpeIxoHz2woOsO0 hmpA== MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.60.169.171 with SMTP id af11mr42308290oec.92.1357850671799; Thu, 10 Jan 2013 12:44:31 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.60.155.201 with HTTP; Thu, 10 Jan 2013 12:44:31 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: References: <1357769712.350.12.camel@turminder-xuss.roaming.operationaldynamics.com> Date: Thu, 10 Jan 2013 14:44:31 -0600 Message-ID: Subject: Re: Is it really possible to "hijack" a topic? From: meg ford To: rms@gnu.org Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=bcaec54d4766f35da804d2f53e26 Cc: foundation-list@gnome.org, andrew@operationaldynamics.com X-BeenThere: foundation-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: Discussion relating to the GNOME Foundation List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 10 Jan 2013 20:44:16 -0000 --bcaec54d4766f35da804d2f53e26 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 On Thu, Jan 10, 2013 at 2:38 PM, Richard Stallman wrote: > I think it would make a big difference if you did this. Then people > who are > interested in hearing your thoughts can read and respond to them and > the > main topic can also continue. > > Discussion of hosting can continue just fine -- my messages don't stop > people from talking about it. Nonetheless, I will try to change > subject lines in the future, for other people's convenience. > > I will try to remember to do so, but I am not sure I will remember, > because I start few discussions on foundation-list -- just a few times > a year. Next time is likely to be months from now, and I may have > forgotten all about this discussion by then. If I forget, please > remind me and I will do it. > > In this case, I did not think I was starting a discussion. I intended > only to point people at the article. I could have changed the subject > field nonetheless, and in the future do so (if I remember) even in > marginal cases like this. However, my point is that the other person, > the one who started really Ubuntu at length, also had the chance to > change it. > Sure, i was suggesting of course that you do this if you judge yourself to be changing the topic. Indeed, this applies to all of us on the list. I was aware that you have different habits when it comes to email so I thought I would comment based on how my client sorts the messages. Meg Ford > > -- > Dr Richard Stallman > President, Free Software Foundation > 51 Franklin St > Boston MA 02110 > USA > www.fsf.org www.gnu.org > Skype: No way! That's nonfree (freedom-denying) software. > Use Ekiga or an ordinary phone call > > --bcaec54d4766f35da804d2f53e26 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

On Thu, Jan 10, 2013 at 2:38 PM, Richard= Stallman <rms@gnu.org> wrote:
=A0 =A0 I think it would make a big difference if you did this. Then people= who are
=A0 =A0 interested in hearing your thoughts can read and respond to them an= d the
=A0 =A0 main topic can also continue.

Discussion of hosting can continue just fine -- my messages don't stop<= br> people from talking about it. =A0Nonetheless, I will try to change
subject lines in the future, for other people's convenience.

I will try to remember to do so, but I am not sure I will remember,
because I start few discussions on foundation-list -- just a few times
a year. =A0Next time is likely to be months from now, and I may have
forgotten all about this discussion by then. =A0If I forget, please
remind me and I will do it.

In this case, I did not think I was starting a discussion. =A0I intended only to point people at the article. =A0I could have changed the subject field nonetheless, and in the future do so (if I remember) even in
marginal cases like this. =A0However, my point is that the other person, the one who started really Ubuntu at length, also had the chance to
change it.

Sure, i was suggesting of course that y= ou do this if you judge yourself to be changing the topic. Indeed, this app= lies to all of us on the list. I was aware that you have different habits w= hen it comes to email so I thought I would comment based on how my client s= orts the messages.

Meg Ford

--
Dr Richard Stallman
President, Free Software Foundation
51 Franklin St
Boston MA 02110
USA
www.fsf.org =A0www.gnu.org
Skype: No way! That's nonfree (freedom-denying) software.
=A0 Use Ekiga or an ordinary phone call


--bcaec54d4766f35da804d2f53e26-- From behdad.esfahbod@gmail.com Thu Jan 10 20:44:25 2013 Return-Path: X-Original-To: foundation-list@gnome.org Delivered-To: foundation-list@gnome.org Received: from localhost (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id EB2A17507F7 for ; Thu, 10 Jan 2013 20:44:24 +0000 (UTC) X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at gnome.org X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -2.6 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.6 tagged_above=-999 required=2 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, FREEMAIL_FROM=0.001, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_LOW=-0.7, SPF_PASS=-0.001] autolearn=ham Received: from menubar.gnome.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (menubar.gnome.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id FNLAF4XdGV2C for ; Thu, 10 Jan 2013 20:44:22 +0000 (UTC) Received: from mail-oa0-f48.google.com (mail-oa0-f48.google.com [209.85.219.48]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 77FC5750984 for ; Thu, 10 Jan 2013 20:44:22 +0000 (UTC) Received: by mail-oa0-f48.google.com with SMTP id h2so1077548oag.21 for ; Thu, 10 Jan 2013 12:44:52 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=x-received:sender:message-id:date:from:user-agent:mime-version:to :cc:subject:references:in-reply-to:x-enigmail-version:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; bh=WAppFZ57QZq7BPpAnlEWlGx0/vgg1/IQeDa2Rz6WdPo=; b=YrH0czm9AIMG2oDkFYUmarPrH+lp05wyH1ufzBKs4RjDyR5QFsu4wMK2J7qj4tx/eO MSnEm9zAdTCfpCF6AgX2waISBmqI9ltm+zLLoxpQAl64VoxrNKHpajXA+fiF6A2PSawN yvkO01enPWYT6pYKT2qGjrIqngBm9/udFElnIIPW6vaY63LsNgI+GW0JLpYi9ymnV6+h +4GOz2klAj/Wvw4dGnldzYP7j5acGdh1Xs10kIZAI5s+9frXC2l5mRs8rzT+HCbBYBk0 cvU960nw8e4++mZbbnkecTLZdefTGSMaK9rc+rSZd33d1HY5sJhTcDaIemnJkVdkpheV o6kw== X-Received: by 10.182.31.33 with SMTP id x1mr53062134obh.29.1357850692525; Thu, 10 Jan 2013 12:44:52 -0800 (PST) Received: from ?IPv6:2620:0:1020:9:5015:d805:51a7:af19? ([2620:0:1020:9:5015:d805:51a7:af19]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id el2sm1926855obc.9.2013.01.10.12.44.49 (version=TLSv1 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-RC4-SHA bits=128/128); Thu, 10 Jan 2013 12:44:51 -0800 (PST) Sender: Behdad Esfahbod Message-ID: <50EF2840.1080609@behdad.org> Date: Thu, 10 Jan 2013 14:44:48 -0600 From: Behdad Esfahbod User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux x86_64; rv:17.0) Gecko/17.0 Thunderbird/17.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: rms@gnu.org Subject: Re: Setting moderation bit for members who consistently hijack topics References: <1357769712.350.12.camel@turminder-xuss.roaming.operationaldynamics.com> <50EDEF24.7040002@gnome.org> <1357800176.2148.64.camel@novo> <1357809502.15375.92.camel@embrace.foo> In-Reply-To: X-Enigmail-Version: 1.4.6 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: foundation-list@gnome.org X-BeenThere: foundation-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: Discussion relating to the GNOME Foundation List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 10 Jan 2013 20:44:25 -0000 Ok everyone. Now that both sides had a chance to attack each other and defend themselves, and as Richard constructively agreed to try to remember to change subject lines in the future, can we please put an end to this and neighboring threads? I mean, don't you all have code to write? Cheers, behdad On 13-01-10 02:39 PM, Richard Stallman wrote: > Awaiting now the potential "GMail was mentioned, Google is bad!" reply. > > You seem to be attacking me for things you imagine I might say. > At least it makes your bias clear. > > And since you just raised the issue of GMail, shouldn't you have > changed the Subject field? Remember, the thread you're posting in > started with the accusation that I "hijacked a topic" by posting > a single sentence about Ubuntu without changing the Subject field. > If that makes me a nasty topic hijacker, are you one also? > > Perhaps neither of us deserves that accusation. > > About GMail I have nothing to say. > -- behdad http://behdad.org/ From alex.launi@gmail.com Thu Jan 10 20:48:13 2013 Return-Path: X-Original-To: foundation-list@gnome.org Delivered-To: foundation-list@gnome.org Received: from localhost (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CE8C97507F7 for ; Thu, 10 Jan 2013 20:48:13 +0000 (UTC) X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at gnome.org X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -2.699 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.699 tagged_above=-999 required=2 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, FREEMAIL_FROM=0.001, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_LOW=-0.7, SPF_PASS=-0.001] autolearn=ham Received: from menubar.gnome.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (menubar.gnome.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 4etNk1U+h6vz for ; Thu, 10 Jan 2013 20:48:11 +0000 (UTC) Received: from mail-la0-f44.google.com (mail-la0-f44.google.com [209.85.215.44]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2CDEB7500CB for ; Thu, 10 Jan 2013 20:48:10 +0000 (UTC) Received: by mail-la0-f44.google.com with SMTP id fr10so1098534lab.31 for ; Thu, 10 Jan 2013 12:48:40 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:from:date:message-id:subject:to :cc:content-type; bh=24/jSUhTKBcAqK3Ev0I+sGEoXdIOffaXwLtRcdZroMg=; b=o47hMGTjpRWpT9YPc5YcPfYXe0to4rJlnPNctT2Qy17CXko70XoU02q3e3An9LNYAf cbexLwwvuLxCZfO0mpuahcz0jq1oRxqXbbZdGI7LZwmfdjiS3f0XDLZQfnDGqMtnkbvv L2Al7JChMNXcntb8Au3f683iZbV3woh5vp+VkEFx6sLk5S4UL9z3Ae0kYgapdDZ1nr9q wC+cCRJk+KriUXkWJhWUclGE1nfrWToXTCl5c2MGZT90RGsmGCYdqbYyLqACaX+Q01S1 FXXlt0NDdvJukPL83W3oFeoEDQqBIOn4jgnIc61LMW7NdgwJysriMuxvvDWpNWmQLWA9 R9dw== Received: by 10.112.46.70 with SMTP id t6mr30509900lbm.107.1357850920468; Thu, 10 Jan 2013 12:48:40 -0800 (PST) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.114.71.2 with HTTP; Thu, 10 Jan 2013 12:48:20 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: <50EF2840.1080609@behdad.org> References: <1357769712.350.12.camel@turminder-xuss.roaming.operationaldynamics.com> <50EDEF24.7040002@gnome.org> <1357800176.2148.64.camel@novo> <1357809502.15375.92.camel@embrace.foo> <50EF2840.1080609@behdad.org> From: Alex Launi Date: Thu, 10 Jan 2013 15:48:20 -0500 Message-ID: Subject: Re: Setting moderation bit for members who consistently hijack topics To: Behdad Esfahbod Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=f46d04012193c5c19904d2f54d7b Cc: "rms@gnu.org" , foundation-list X-BeenThere: foundation-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: Discussion relating to the GNOME Foundation List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 10 Jan 2013 20:48:14 -0000 --f46d04012193c5c19904d2f54d7b Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Yeah, we should definitely have policy in place to keep some voices quieter than others. An absolute must. On Thu, Jan 10, 2013 at 3:44 PM, Behdad Esfahbod wrote: > Ok everyone. Now that both sides had a chance to attack each other and > defend > themselves, and as Richard constructively agreed to try to remember to > change > subject lines in the future, can we please put an end to this and > neighboring > threads? I mean, don't you all have code to write? > > Cheers, > behdad > > > On 13-01-10 02:39 PM, Richard Stallman wrote: > > Awaiting now the potential "GMail was mentioned, Google is bad!" > reply. > > > > You seem to be attacking me for things you imagine I might say. > > At least it makes your bias clear. > > > > And since you just raised the issue of GMail, shouldn't you have > > changed the Subject field? Remember, the thread you're posting in > > started with the accusation that I "hijacked a topic" by posting > > a single sentence about Ubuntu without changing the Subject field. > > If that makes me a nasty topic hijacker, are you one also? > > > > Perhaps neither of us deserves that accusation. > > > > About GMail I have nothing to say. > > > > -- > behdad > http://behdad.org/ > _______________________________________________ > foundation-list mailing list > foundation-list@gnome.org > https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/foundation-list > -- --Alex Launi --f46d04012193c5c19904d2f54d7b Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Yeah, we should definitely have policy in place to keep so= me voices quieter than others. An absolute must.


On Thu, Jan 10, 2013 at 3:44 PM, B= ehdad Esfahbod <behdad@behdad.org> wrote:
Ok everyone. =C2=A0Now that both sides had a= chance to attack each other and defend
themselves, and as Richard constructively agreed to try to remember to chan= ge
subject lines in the future, can we please put an end to this and neighbori= ng
threads? =C2=A0I mean, don't you all have code to write?

Cheers,
behdad


On 13-01-10 02:39 PM, Richard Stallman wrote:
> =C2=A0 =C2=A0 Awaiting now the potential "GMail was mentioned, Go= ogle is bad!" reply.
>
> You seem to be attacking me for things you imagine I might say.
> At least it makes your bias clear.
>
> And since you just raised the issue of GMail, shouldn't you have > changed the Subject field? =C2=A0Remember, the thread you're posti= ng in
> started with the accusation that I "hijacked a topic" by pos= ting
> a single sentence about Ubuntu without changing the Subject field.
> If that makes me a nasty topic hijacker, are you one also?
>
> Perhaps neither of us deserves that accusation.
>
> About GMail I have nothing to say.
>

--
behdad
http://behdad.org/
___________________________________= ____________
foundation-list mailing list
foundation-list@gnome.org<= br> https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/foundation-list



--
= --Alex Launi
--f46d04012193c5c19904d2f54d7b-- From cjlhomeaddress@gmail.com Thu Jan 10 20:54:54 2013 Return-Path: X-Original-To: foundation-list@gnome.org Delivered-To: foundation-list@gnome.org Received: from localhost (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 35B40750982 for ; Thu, 10 Jan 2013 20:54:54 +0000 (UTC) X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at gnome.org X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -2.7 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.7 tagged_above=-999 required=2 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, FREEMAIL_FROM=0.001, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_LOW=-0.7, SPF_PASS=-0.001] autolearn=ham Received: from menubar.gnome.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (menubar.gnome.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id K-ewBXjHVYgM for ; Thu, 10 Jan 2013 20:54:52 +0000 (UTC) Received: from mail-qa0-f48.google.com (mail-qa0-f48.google.com [209.85.216.48]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 68F2175097B for ; Thu, 10 Jan 2013 20:54:51 +0000 (UTC) Received: by mail-qa0-f48.google.com with SMTP id l8so963595qaq.0 for ; Thu, 10 Jan 2013 12:55:21 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:from:date:message-id:subject:to :cc:content-type; bh=tO9TvZ78AFXJ1ygKE3biHpMwmbxdFY2V1DgSCUR+Zws=; b=z/4sLJZae5VzPLymgDqNMXP9P1FenVu1kH/CKDxR4+Vxqy7NsZ35lAflNnNAzeq2OC CWdxk6yIRpNSQGFmGWB6LXjENS1YlG2myFdKvpTvD5EMIC1DOOQZMpr5eTKLaAcxz/u1 Nk5JA/nelY9Ux+SW4veco6YB4Q7mR5jU93PAkhZNNaoVCERIVP9Se4WlZkx4xd7wV3o1 07D257tPNcrHr2YoF6Eme0T2vzHKyOD4FAHKKMc1Vs02VXcxAnDhhXkqZ7ZVBEHlfWPa EYWlMBwHisQDSLkPyBjr5hc6ms/HiJiz//RQThPr4w/DKGwQo10ZMu79uKxSoGwpcVXn sqWw== Received: by 10.224.18.136 with SMTP id w8mr59575112qaa.2.1357851321529; Thu, 10 Jan 2013 12:55:21 -0800 (PST) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.49.2.231 with HTTP; Thu, 10 Jan 2013 12:54:40 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: <50EF2840.1080609@behdad.org> References: <1357769712.350.12.camel@turminder-xuss.roaming.operationaldynamics.com> <50EDEF24.7040002@gnome.org> <1357800176.2148.64.camel@novo> <1357809502.15375.92.camel@embrace.foo> <50EF2840.1080609@behdad.org> From: Chris Leonard Date: Thu, 10 Jan 2013 15:54:40 -0500 Message-ID: Subject: Re: Setting moderation bit for members who consistently hijack topics To: Behdad Esfahbod Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Cc: rms@gnu.org, foundation-list@gnome.org X-BeenThere: foundation-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: Discussion relating to the GNOME Foundation List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 10 Jan 2013 20:54:54 -0000 On Thu, Jan 10, 2013 at 3:44 PM, Behdad Esfahbod wrote: > Ok everyone. Now that both sides had a chance to attack each other and defend > themselves, and as Richard constructively agreed to try to remember to change > subject lines in the future, can we please put an end to this and neighboring > threads? I mean, don't you all have code to write? > > Cheers, > behdad > Behdad, I'm afraid we may have to wait for Godwin's Law to be invoked, although of course the attempt to do so intentionally will be unsuccessful :-) cjl From suserocks@bryen.com Thu Jan 10 22:25:26 2013 Return-Path: X-Original-To: foundation-list@gnome.org Delivered-To: foundation-list@gnome.org Received: from localhost (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 70F0D7507F7 for ; Thu, 10 Jan 2013 22:25:26 +0000 (UTC) X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at gnome.org X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -2.6 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.6 tagged_above=-999 required=2 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_LOW=-0.7] autolearn=ham Received: from menubar.gnome.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (menubar.gnome.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id pNKTZwjI+8DB for ; Thu, 10 Jan 2013 22:25:13 +0000 (UTC) Received: from mail-ob0-f170.google.com (mail-ob0-f170.google.com [209.85.214.170]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2316A750979 for ; Thu, 10 Jan 2013 22:25:12 +0000 (UTC) Received: by mail-ob0-f170.google.com with SMTP id wp18so1148170obc.29 for ; Thu, 10 Jan 2013 14:25:43 -0800 (PST) X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=google.com; s=20120113; h=x-received:message-id:subject:from:reply-to:to:date:content-type :x-mailer:mime-version:content-transfer-encoding:x-gm-message-state; bh=lW7LUePgGgnQyIGXSF9g2+YCnfCjD4uDvAhx6Nq/6JY=; b=dfXU32iepBWpAYbh0qAYROiGMP1yr4iTiZGH9IjHnAi6HdkfBmi0nctc7HSRAtZ5X2 HEtd/bTW1JZ7k2Qc9a6oCAGOpBIPWk1+NZwGA9nxo0D4NG+UEtcXn/n1MrQ5Q0w3iRI7 DxOel9bxXZQ8SdRqcP1EMuoVgMVtLPvkNSVKURietDYjZ9tJbi8oqZ4/rM311EPcB+Lb ytYd852Sw4jtgMROtg58zhdQr6y4/HRHT5A7LteJ/fJ3nRDIfsEOu6dIvAbFTBnXA4cy Oolrd/VfVEAbLxIA4KasqVPSWj6OFqFJsSY3iIHMdZHkKcWdb+Fr845atxUJoVN1ot86 pCVA== X-Received: by 10.60.31.19 with SMTP id w19mr43212265oeh.3.1357856743023; Thu, 10 Jan 2013 14:25:43 -0800 (PST) Received: from [192.168.1.64] (108-92-144-246.lightspeed.cicril.sbcglobal.net. [108.92.144.246]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id h2sm2126894obn.11.2013.01.10.14.25.41 (version=SSLv3 cipher=RC4-SHA bits=128/128); Thu, 10 Jan 2013 14:25:42 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <1357856740.1953.292.camel@linux-sl6g> Subject: Subject Line Changing From: Bryen M Yunashko To: foundation-list@gnome.org Date: Thu, 10 Jan 2013 16:25:40 -0600 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" X-Mailer: Evolution 3.4.4 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Gm-Message-State: ALoCoQnxg6xfBzily5m8JeIbBFwtw8svIwUYLuPpc459sFLVtzWLqBx0G2qDmrvsvBA+3US7CUMW X-BeenThere: foundation-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list Reply-To: suserocks@bryen.com List-Id: Discussion relating to the GNOME Foundation List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 10 Jan 2013 22:25:26 -0000 While the previous threads have certainly generated various opinions, I'd like to point out that technically, simply changing a subject line isn't always the right thing to do. If you're using something like GMail, the client obviously threads based on subject line. But if you're using something like Evolution, the threads are formed through some particular message header ID. Thus, changing a subject would still keep the mail in the same thread rather than spawn a new thread. Actually, it would be more of a sub-thread which might be fine if the subject matter is closely related to the original topic. But when a brand new topic is being discussed (even if it originated from another thread) it is wisest to create a brand new email from scratch, and copy/paste relevant bits from the other thread. (Granted this is a bit more work, but that's the technical reality here.) Otherwise, if you choose to ignore a particular thread, and someone changes the topic via subject line, that new thread gets ignored involuntarily. Bryen From sri@ramkrishna.me Thu Jan 10 23:25:19 2013 Return-Path: X-Original-To: foundation-list@gnome.org Delivered-To: foundation-list@gnome.org Received: from localhost (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4F5457507F7 for ; Thu, 10 Jan 2013 23:25:19 +0000 (UTC) X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at gnome.org X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -2.599 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.599 tagged_above=-999 required=2 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_LOW=-0.7] autolearn=ham Received: from menubar.gnome.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (menubar.gnome.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id jKHVHYszLGtR for ; Thu, 10 Jan 2013 23:25:17 +0000 (UTC) Received: from mail-vc0-f172.google.com (mail-vc0-f172.google.com [209.85.220.172]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D004A75031F for ; Thu, 10 Jan 2013 23:25:16 +0000 (UTC) Received: by mail-vc0-f172.google.com with SMTP id fw7so928823vcb.3 for ; Thu, 10 Jan 2013 15:25:46 -0800 (PST) X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=google.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:from:date:message-id:subject:to :cc:content-type:x-gm-message-state; bh=pCc+A3CZBqaOVMZ3APkvjeiKiINZ6UKtQNVIfiFGPa4=; b=fxs53g9uSG5W5UlVjd7OqXu9PkLyAlXqwxpEuHNcXnizhhpLDxm+otCt9Fcrx7Kw6J syoKG7vfG8oziuLe69O/TE7b7CkvVx8unFajyFtxefB5jNFFRJygAewYL2SGlr7xFZaD zXTqZSDS+/9TZPEO1VwDKc/u383GDOGO/gB4HyA/DUqxHnJlQFEQNChSLghQ6ArmXxTa rJLyxPJf5tjW5yKv23/GmesCQAE5ryPqP2CzZb+pne5HpLAOzJZn4D2rBrXvyJ308snH 9wAPI5RpHHJpaosI61lpAgqQlwltJDArbHVanm27iZUqIN2KtKytBV+ew2oKZ8cnY7cG JyFA== Received: by 10.220.155.84 with SMTP id r20mr10794289vcw.19.1357860346595; Thu, 10 Jan 2013 15:25:46 -0800 (PST) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.58.172.130 with HTTP; Thu, 10 Jan 2013 15:25:26 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: <20130110173602.GA19492@ebb.org> References: <1357769712.350.12.camel@turminder-xuss.roaming.operationaldynamics.com> <50EDEF24.7040002@gnome.org> <1357800176.2148.64.camel@novo> <1357809502.15375.92.camel@embrace.foo> <20130110173602.GA19492@ebb.org> From: Sriram Ramkrishna Date: Thu, 10 Jan 2013 15:25:26 -0800 Message-ID: Subject: Re: Are membership renewals generally discussed publicly on the list? (was Re: Setting moderation bit for members who consistently hijack topics) To: "Bradley M. Kuhn" Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=f46d043891359d0a3404d2f77f2a X-Gm-Message-State: ALoCoQnj2vN4Zkjuh2gLW+mdZp4oKx+rEa6Bgck5XM/zyHpFx3pfewE5LmO5L9zTilxh3pEiBkM1 Cc: Foundation-List X-BeenThere: foundation-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: Discussion relating to the GNOME Foundation List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 10 Jan 2013 23:25:19 -0000 --f46d043891359d0a3404d2f77f2a Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Bradley, No, this is not standard procedure. This should have been a private matter and not something that should have been brought out in public. Regardless of who it is, this should have been communicated privately with the list owner. Stormy has done something similar in keeping things in check on the mailing list. sri On Thu, Jan 10, 2013 at 9:36 AM, Bradley M. Kuhn wrote: > Is it standard procedure for credentials of Foundation members to be > discussed on-list like this -- particularly for existing members in good > standing? > > For example, I don't recall my own membership being discussed herein when I > was renewed; it was done in private email with the Membership Committee. > > My GNOME contributions have indeed been eclectic, non-regular and, well, > just > plain "different" than the norm. For example, I've helped with licensing > policy discussions and drafting, and I've done some work to defend GNOME 3 > publicly against the "Linus Torvalds attacks". > > Meanwhile, upon reading this sub-thread and considering my own > contributions > to the GNOME Foundation, I'm frankly left wondering if my membership would > be > "next" to be called into question on this thread. I imagine that I'd feel > *really* uncomfortable and even personally offended if my own membership > were > being called into question publicly on this list! > > Thus, IMO, it frankly seems unnecessarily aggressive and downright > inappropriate to question someone's fitness for membership on the public > list > like this, and I hope that folks will show restraint and raise any such > issues privately among the Membership Committee and the member in question. > > -- bkuhn > _______________________________________________ > foundation-list mailing list > foundation-list@gnome.org > https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/foundation-list > --f46d043891359d0a3404d2f77f2a Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Bradley,

No, this is not standard p= rocedure.=A0 This should have been a private matter and not something that = should have been brought out in public.=A0 Regardless of who it is, this sh= ould have been communicated privately with the list owner.=A0 Stormy has do= ne something similar in keeping things in check on the mailing list.

sri


On Thu, Jan 10, 2013 at 9:36 AM, Bradley M. Kuhn <bkuhn@ebb.o= rg> wrote:
Is it standard procedure for credentials of = Foundation members to be
discussed on-list like this -- particularly for existing members in good standing?

For example, I don't recall my own membership being discussed herein wh= en I
was renewed; it was done in private email with the Membership Committee.
My GNOME contributions have indeed been eclectic, non-regular and, well, ju= st
plain "different" than the norm. =A0For example, I've helped = with licensing
policy discussions and drafting, and I've done some work to defend GNOM= E 3
publicly against the "Linus Torvalds attacks".

Meanwhile, upon reading this sub-thread and considering my own contribution= s
to the GNOME Foundation, I'm frankly left wondering if my membership wo= uld be
"next" to be called into question on this thread. =A0I imagine th= at I'd feel
*really* uncomfortable and even personally offended if my own membership we= re
being called into question publicly on this list!

Thus, IMO, it frankly seems unnecessarily aggressive and downright
inappropriate to question someone's fitness for membership on the publi= c list
like this, and I hope that folks will show restraint and raise any such
issues privately among the Membership Committee and the member in question.=

=A0 =A0-- bkuhn
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--f46d043891359d0a3404d2f77f2a-- From vuntz@gnome.org Fri Jan 11 07:36:40 2013 Return-Path: X-Original-To: foundation-list@gnome.org Delivered-To: foundation-list@gnome.org Received: from localhost (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 759C3750A04 for ; Fri, 11 Jan 2013 07:36:40 +0000 (UTC) X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at gnome.org X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -1.121 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.121 tagged_above=-999 required=2 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE=-0.0001, SPF_NEUTRAL=0.779] autolearn=no Received: from menubar.gnome.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (menubar.gnome.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id wC8gLLV03SLK for ; Fri, 11 Jan 2013 07:36:27 +0000 (UTC) Received: from smtp3-g21.free.fr (smtp3-g21.free.fr [212.27.42.3]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 46EE57509F3 for ; Fri, 11 Jan 2013 07:36:25 +0000 (UTC) Received: from fennas.vuntz.net (unknown [88.185.152.219]) by smtp3-g21.free.fr (Postfix) with ESMTP id 45AF3A626B for ; Fri, 11 Jan 2013 08:36:51 +0100 (CET) Received: by fennas.vuntz.net (Postfix, from userid 1000) id F200B158B9A; Fri, 11 Jan 2013 08:36:49 +0100 (CET) Date: Fri, 11 Jan 2013 08:36:49 +0100 From: Vincent Untz To: foundation-list@gnome.org Subject: Re: Are membership renewals generally discussed publicly on the list? (was Re: Setting moderation bit for members who consistently hijack topics) Message-ID: <20130111073649.GL2019@vuntz.net> Mail-Followup-To: foundation-list@gnome.org References: <1357769712.350.12.camel@turminder-xuss.roaming.operationaldynamics.com> <50EDEF24.7040002@gnome.org> <1357800176.2148.64.camel@novo> <1357809502.15375.92.camel@embrace.foo> <20130110173602.GA19492@ebb.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit In-Reply-To: <20130110173602.GA19492@ebb.org> User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.20 (2009-06-14) X-BeenThere: foundation-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: Discussion relating to the GNOME Foundation List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 11 Jan 2013 07:36:40 -0000 Hi, Le jeudi 10 janvier 2013, à 12:36 -0500, Bradley M. Kuhn a écrit : > Is it standard procedure for credentials of Foundation members to be > discussed on-list like this -- particularly for existing members in good > standing? > > For example, I don't recall my own membership being discussed herein when I > was renewed; it was done in private email with the Membership Committee. Actually, such discussions are now publicly archived (even though there are still private mails every now and then, I guess): https://mail.gnome.org/archives/membership-committee/ But that only happens when the person applies (or re-applies) for membership, but not on foundation-list, and such discussions are lead by the membership committee. Cheers, Vincent -- Les gens heureux ne sont pas pressés. From hadess@hadess.net Fri Jan 11 07:39:35 2013 Return-Path: X-Original-To: foundation-list@gnome.org Delivered-To: foundation-list@gnome.org Received: from localhost (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 166D6750A05 for ; Fri, 11 Jan 2013 07:39:35 +0000 (UTC) X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at gnome.org X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -2.6 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.6 tagged_above=-999 required=2 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_LOW=-0.7] autolearn=ham Received: from menubar.gnome.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (menubar.gnome.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id x6w+ocFKxW7S for ; Fri, 11 Jan 2013 07:39:33 +0000 (UTC) Received: from relay4-d.mail.gandi.net (relay4-d.mail.gandi.net [217.70.183.196]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id ED73A7509F3 for ; Fri, 11 Jan 2013 07:39:32 +0000 (UTC) X-Originating-IP: 217.70.178.147 Received: from mfilter19-d.gandi.net (mfilter19-d.gandi.net [217.70.178.147]) by relay4-d.mail.gandi.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id D9279172074; Fri, 11 Jan 2013 08:40:01 +0100 (CET) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at mfilter19-d.gandi.net Received: from relay4-d.mail.gandi.net ([217.70.183.196]) by mfilter19-d.gandi.net (mfilter19-d.gandi.net [10.0.15.180]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id K4jM9FYQ+Ef2; Fri, 11 Jan 2013 08:40:00 +0100 (CET) X-Originating-IP: 83.155.44.161 Received: from [192.168.0.27] (mon69-7-83-155-44-161.fbx.proxad.net [83.155.44.161]) (Authenticated sender: hadess@hadess.net) by relay4-d.mail.gandi.net (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id E7F94172080; Fri, 11 Jan 2013 08:39:59 +0100 (CET) Message-ID: <1357889999.2148.83.camel@novo> Subject: Re: Are membership renewals generally discussed publicly on the list? (was Re: Setting moderation bit for members who consistently hijack topics) From: Bastien Nocera To: "Bradley M. Kuhn" Date: Fri, 11 Jan 2013 08:39:59 +0100 In-Reply-To: <20130110173602.GA19492@ebb.org> References: <1357769712.350.12.camel@turminder-xuss.roaming.operationaldynamics.com> <50EDEF24.7040002@gnome.org> <1357800176.2148.64.camel@novo> <1357809502.15375.92.camel@embrace.foo> <20130110173602.GA19492@ebb.org> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="ISO-8859-1" X-Mailer: Evolution 3.6.2 (3.6.2-3.fc18) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: foundation-list@gnome.org X-BeenThere: foundation-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: Discussion relating to the GNOME Foundation List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 11 Jan 2013 07:39:35 -0000 On Thu, 2013-01-10 at 12:36 -0500, Bradley M. Kuhn wrote: > Is it standard procedure for credentials of Foundation members to be > discussed on-list like this -- particularly for existing members in good > standing? My question was a rhetorical one. From olav@vitters.nl Fri Jan 11 09:02:43 2013 Return-Path: X-Original-To: foundation-list@gnome.org Delivered-To: foundation-list@gnome.org Received: from localhost (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 80DB47509BE for ; Fri, 11 Jan 2013 09:02:43 +0000 (UTC) X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at gnome.org X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -1.9 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.9 tagged_above=-999 required=2 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE=-0.0001] autolearn=ham Received: from menubar.gnome.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (menubar.gnome.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id YKA1z+em1OU1 for ; Fri, 11 Jan 2013 09:02:28 +0000 (UTC) Received: from fep16.mx.upcmail.net (fep16.mx.upcmail.net [62.179.121.36]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 079B5750A07 for ; Fri, 11 Jan 2013 09:02:27 +0000 (UTC) Received: from edge01.upcmail.net ([192.168.13.236]) by viefep16-int.chello.at (InterMail vM.8.01.05.05 201-2260-151-110-20120111) with ESMTP id <20130111090256.VUEE29828.viefep16-int.chello.at@edge01.upcmail.net> for ; Fri, 11 Jan 2013 10:02:56 +0100 Received: from bkor.dhs.org ([62.195.84.29]) by edge01.upcmail.net with edge id mZ2u1k00S0dyCrA01Z2uS7; Fri, 11 Jan 2013 10:02:56 +0100 X-SourceIP: 62.195.84.29 Received: by bkor.dhs.org (Postfix, from userid 501) id 31E3B500391; Fri, 11 Jan 2013 10:02:54 +0100 (CET) Date: Fri, 11 Jan 2013 10:02:54 +0100 From: Olav Vitters To: foundation-list@gnome.org Subject: Re: Setting moderation bit for members who consistently hijack topics Message-ID: <20130111090254.GA8659@bkor.dhs.org> Mail-Followup-To: foundation-list@gnome.org References: <1357769712.350.12.camel@turminder-xuss.roaming.operationaldynamics.com> <50EDEF24.7040002@gnome.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.21 (2010-09-15) X-BeenThere: foundation-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: Discussion relating to the GNOME Foundation List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 11 Jan 2013 09:02:43 -0000 On Wed, Jan 09, 2013 at 06:37:41PM -0500, Karen Sandler wrote: > Moreover, it's probably more polite to make requests about changes to > moderation policy off-list to the admins, I'm set as one of the listadmins for this mailing list. Suggest at minimum the following: * decide what is on topic and what is off topic for this list I assume GNU is ontopic, as long as the GNOME website says we are part of it. * contact the person off list, pointing towards previous discussion on what is ontopic and what is not * if this does not help, maybe contact Code of Conduct mediator * as last resort, contact a listadmin Personally, I heavily disagree with the way things are done in GNU (actions, not the ideas). Mostly due to the attitude which to me seems like an extreme version of "us vs them". The 'Ubuntu' thing however was made clear that such behaviour is not acceptable which IMO is also good to make clear. But personal opinion aside, please first define if GNU matters should be ontopic or not. -- Regards, Olav From andrea.veri@gmail.com Mon Jan 14 16:14:21 2013 Return-Path: X-Original-To: foundation-list@gnome.org Delivered-To: foundation-list@gnome.org Received: from localhost (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 95BFF750F44 for ; Mon, 14 Jan 2013 16:14:21 +0000 (UTC) X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at gnome.org X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -2.599 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.599 tagged_above=-999 required=2 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, FREEMAIL_FROM=0.001, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_LOW=-0.7, SPF_PASS=-0.001] autolearn=ham Received: from menubar.gnome.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (menubar.gnome.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id YgAznkD0VnWm for ; Mon, 14 Jan 2013 16:14:19 +0000 (UTC) Received: from mail-ob0-f174.google.com (mail-ob0-f174.google.com [209.85.214.174]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 66299750E82 for ; Mon, 14 Jan 2013 16:14:18 +0000 (UTC) Received: by mail-ob0-f174.google.com with SMTP id ta14so4023696obb.5 for ; Mon, 14 Jan 2013 08:14:56 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:sender:date:x-google-sender-auth:message-id:subject :from:to:content-type; bh=oK+auaqFHzLa+7exe/ageZEsDz/KuftFFxkpAfOmGD4=; b=y0QXAINtQr6VVaCUBHGJQwNWCqeVlyc7Y/79u0inOQXAz+wXi6fs/YEkfuH+s7rWz8 TLdp2f+dSnjmeYu0eD/lE+F7JcsC2d+0Fgfybt1sEHZCIm7vbRN1db7YHYwxc9/P79KH 6/wny9CKi1bm2zV9iusDyukrsfxA08XOV22X4M/wtVtqu1PnCkXHVK8ad0EhvgNYaG6Y cv4GXItxa76jeBGqYxN7SGu5Hep6rKZKuQi4LPy5LXD6Q9OIDJ7g8V2/tSsgsF2MHOM5 HH9ErUu83OqpNQLDNLyDm3hN8ekX8AvFVCeBhG2dp08vDTwhcjJlyJpaK17oJ2NLIjic Qirg== MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.182.150.72 with SMTP id ug8mr62027850obb.1.1358180095924; Mon, 14 Jan 2013 08:14:55 -0800 (PST) Sender: andrea.veri@gmail.com Received: by 10.76.7.1 with HTTP; Mon, 14 Jan 2013 08:14:55 -0800 (PST) Date: Mon, 14 Jan 2013 17:14:55 +0100 X-Google-Sender-Auth: Izgl98XbCRlEoq1Ug6oJ5iPfIfo Message-ID: Subject: Mango / Foundation Database / RT down From: Andrea Veri To: Foundation List Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=f46d044469ad28993004d341f2b6 X-BeenThere: foundation-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: Discussion relating to the GNOME Foundation List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 14 Jan 2013 16:14:21 -0000 --f46d044469ad28993004d341f2b6 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Hi, unfortunately the machine that was hosting a few (Mango, Foundation DB, Request Tracker) GNOME services died yesterday after serving the GNOME community since 2004. I'll work on restoring all the services as soon as possible but for now please don't try: 1. applying to become a Foundation member through the form at [1]. 1. renewing your membership through the form at [1]. 2. requesting a new account or any change to it. (email changes, SSH key replacements, FTP access etc.) I'll follow-up this mail as soon as all the services are UP again. Thanks for your patience, Andrea [1] http://www.gnome.org/foundation/membership/apply/ -- Cheers, Andrea Debian Developer, Fedora / EPEL packager, GNOME Sysadmin, GNOME Foundation Membership & Elections Committee Chairman Homepage: http://www.gnome.org/~av --f46d044469ad28993004d341f2b6 Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Hi,

unfortunately the machine that was hosting a few (Mango, Foundation DB, Req= uest Tracker) GNOME services died yesterday after serving the GNOME communi= ty since 2004.

I'= ll work on restoring all the services as soon as possible but for now pleas= e don't try:

1. app= lying to become a Foundation member through the form at [1].
1. renewing your membersh= ip through the form at [1].
2. requesting a = new account or any change to it. (email changes, SSH key replacements, FTP = access etc.)

I'= ll follow-up this mail as soon as all the services are UP again.

Thanks for your patience,

Andrea


--
Cheers,

Andrea

Debian Developer,
Fed= ora / EPEL packager,
GNOME Sysadmin,
GNOME Foundation Membership &= ; Elections Committee Chairman

Homepage: http://www.gnome.org/~av
--f46d044469ad28993004d341f2b6-- From andreasn.pixel@gmail.com Mon Jan 14 16:48:53 2013 Return-Path: X-Original-To: foundation-list@gnome.org Delivered-To: foundation-list@gnome.org Received: from localhost (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 65837750F62 for ; Mon, 14 Jan 2013 16:48:53 +0000 (UTC) X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at gnome.org X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -2.599 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.599 tagged_above=-999 required=2 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, FREEMAIL_FROM=0.001, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_LOW=-0.7, SPF_PASS=-0.001] autolearn=ham Received: from menubar.gnome.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (menubar.gnome.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id earSFr-QaR6d for ; Mon, 14 Jan 2013 16:48:49 +0000 (UTC) Received: from mail-lb0-f174.google.com (mail-lb0-f174.google.com [209.85.217.174]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 490C3750F58 for ; Mon, 14 Jan 2013 16:48:48 +0000 (UTC) Received: by mail-lb0-f174.google.com with SMTP id gi11so3034156lbb.5 for ; Mon, 14 Jan 2013 08:49:25 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=x-received:sender:message-id:date:from:user-agent:mime-version:to :subject:references:in-reply-to:content-type; bh=yOKjljMxmaIJ5VL19pqOjLyaenloWbSEVc+XruLPNwE=; b=dbHoRbPy70o6ip4mj01L/NWdyyfj/zAtJwjM+W6Sl3E050ddNAy8mnEMNCCgTfTBHo gndE+wtVwluvLOWAYhJH0mQOBnqTbCzpVfsLn63qbovdLwqeX2tHQ8B5YkkTLzPB5Oqy ZyhaG1cCG3xdGv3SE6wg5sQzkCC35Ib+LRL5+WMrAcCZv1rF1O6hsLVqQEBX/OeQaCHu PABokLaw/RLBjA2xbhmpPH/qvJdipsHr7I6aKB/9f7APSE4TZ2whjkVQkLFyW0KsEwld anT1HQ0a/2XVGnAEy3Y3XokMsJL/vDX8CPseRV4VxUsWyfUJU2pb/tB1n16IPW5qPAYG IFzg== X-Received: by 10.112.82.226 with SMTP id l2mr35287718lby.51.1358182165218; Mon, 14 Jan 2013 08:49:25 -0800 (PST) Received: from [192.168.3.11] (c83-248-130-230.bredband.comhem.se. [83.248.130.230]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id b3sm5689028lbl.0.2013.01.14.08.49.23 (version=TLSv1 cipher=RC4-SHA bits=128/128); Mon, 14 Jan 2013 08:49:24 -0800 (PST) Sender: Andreas Nilsson Message-ID: <50F43711.2000809@andreasn.se> Date: Mon, 14 Jan 2013 17:49:21 +0100 From: Andreas Nilsson User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux x86_64; rv:17.0) Gecko/17.0 Thunderbird/17.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: foundation-list@gnome.org Subject: Re: Mango / Foundation Database / RT down References: In-Reply-To: Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="------------020908020702080402000903" X-BeenThere: foundation-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: Discussion relating to the GNOME Foundation List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 14 Jan 2013 16:48:53 -0000 This is a multi-part message in MIME format. --------------020908020702080402000903 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Hi Andrea! Might be best to disable the form on http://www.gnome.org/foundation/membership/apply/ until this is sorted out. How do I do this? - Andreas On 2013-01-14 17:14, Andrea Veri wrote: > Hi, > > unfortunately the machine that was hosting a few (Mango, Foundation > DB, Request Tracker) GNOME services died yesterday after serving the > GNOME community since 2004. > > I'll work on restoring all the services as soon as possible but for > now please don't try: > > 1. applying to become a Foundation member through the form at [1]. > 1. renewing your membership through the form at [1]. > 2. requesting a new account or any change to it. (email changes, SSH > key replacements, FTP access etc.) > > I'll follow-up this mail as soon as all the services are UP again. > > Thanks for your patience, > > Andrea > > [1] http://www.gnome.org/foundation/membership/apply/ > > > -- > Cheers, > > Andrea > > Debian Developer, > Fedora / EPEL packager, > GNOME Sysadmin, > GNOME Foundation Membership & Elections Committee Chairman > > Homepage: http://www.gnome.org/~av > > > _______________________________________________ > foundation-list mailing list > foundation-list@gnome.org > https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/foundation-list --------------020908020702080402000903 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Hi Andrea!
Might be best to disable the form on http://www.gnome.org/foundation/membership/apply/ until this is sorted out.
How do I do this?
- Andreas

On 2013-01-14 17:14, Andrea Veri wrote:
Hi,

unfortunately the machine that was hosting a few (Mango, Foundation DB, Request Tracker) GNOME services died yesterday after serving the GNOME community since 2004.

I'll work on restoring all the services as soon as possible but for now please don't try:

1. applying to become a Foundation member through the form at [1].
1. renewing your membership through the form at [1].
2. requesting a new account or any change to it. (email changes, SSH key replacements, FTP access etc.)

I'll follow-up this mail as soon as all the services are UP again.

Thanks for your patience,

Andrea



--
Cheers,

Andrea

Debian Developer,
Fedora / EPEL packager,
GNOME Sysadmin,
GNOME Foundation Membership & Elections Committee Chairman

Homepage: http://www.gnome.org/~av 


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--------------020908020702080402000903-- From andrea.veri@gmail.com Mon Jan 14 18:14:50 2013 Return-Path: X-Original-To: foundation-list@gnome.org Delivered-To: foundation-list@gnome.org Received: from localhost (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6959A750FA6 for ; Mon, 14 Jan 2013 18:14:50 +0000 (UTC) X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at gnome.org X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -2.599 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.599 tagged_above=-999 required=2 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, FREEMAIL_FROM=0.001, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_LOW=-0.7, SPF_PASS=-0.001] autolearn=ham Received: from menubar.gnome.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (menubar.gnome.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id Mr2dA2qyDg-S for ; Mon, 14 Jan 2013 18:14:48 +0000 (UTC) Received: from mail-ob0-f181.google.com (mail-ob0-f181.google.com [209.85.214.181]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1BD26750F95 for ; Mon, 14 Jan 2013 18:14:47 +0000 (UTC) Received: by mail-ob0-f181.google.com with SMTP id oi10so4161718obb.26 for ; Mon, 14 Jan 2013 10:15:25 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:sender:in-reply-to:references:date :x-google-sender-auth:message-id:subject:from:to:cc:content-type; bh=vYweG6sv7D0w06YacjdYgD4WZXANQkGzKxTxdv6aYiI=; b=pRspQRlpgp/5NRN7Ue9AhNA6/UXUQyxJ1PnCUOJuC6qpAZF03h4Bike/Al1kf2MIky 4U3jd+WUh62oh9wULP8bVsIoBDpRrS40x5Eq9z9Kcr2LibrFWvNdGZNTLoqfPrJ30RST UnXkXEur3o2vq6ETewUBSWtfRaitt3o1oLUS28cU4GFHQZfJoIE81JDuMYdBBneOnFEm soMUTvS6EKA8K+dDUcM6nuGZYkwygWx2xgjRGwD4D0d+E7KXW1Ttkk+5gAL7CFC+PWAn FcETliB6Aujh3nqKAwdbI3YEjRWSz8m2cMzoic/jBTE9oMEqcLCND/9XdGiZGaD24jhZ Q4Mg== MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.60.4.226 with SMTP id n2mr52234863oen.63.1358187325287; Mon, 14 Jan 2013 10:15:25 -0800 (PST) Sender: andrea.veri@gmail.com Received: by 10.76.7.1 with HTTP; Mon, 14 Jan 2013 10:15:24 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: <50F43711.2000809@andreasn.se> References: <50F43711.2000809@andreasn.se> Date: Mon, 14 Jan 2013 19:15:24 +0100 X-Google-Sender-Auth: 3gdeAD3Ag2qKXEHAH1GlUk-UC5E Message-ID: Subject: Re: Mango / Foundation Database / RT down From: Andrea Veri To: Andreas Nilsson Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=e89a8ff1c7140fee7204d343a1b8 Cc: Foundation List X-BeenThere: foundation-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: Discussion relating to the GNOME Foundation List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 14 Jan 2013 18:14:50 -0000 --e89a8ff1c7140fee7204d343a1b8 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 We can either disable the page on Wordpress itself or add a little note on the form itself by modyfing the file at [1]. Not sure which one do you prefer! Andrea [1] http://git.gnome.org/browse/gnome-web-www/tree/theme/page-apply.php 2013/1/14 Andreas Nilsson > Hi Andrea! > Might be best to disable the form on > http://www.gnome.org/foundation/membership/apply/ until this is sorted > out. > How do I do this? > - Andreas > > > On 2013-01-14 17:14, Andrea Veri wrote: > > Hi, > > unfortunately the machine that was hosting a few (Mango, Foundation DB, > Request Tracker) GNOME services died yesterday after serving the GNOME > community since 2004. > > I'll work on restoring all the services as soon as possible but for now > please don't try: > > 1. applying to become a Foundation member through the form at [1]. > 1. renewing your membership through the form at [1]. > 2. requesting a new account or any change to it. (email changes, SSH key > replacements, FTP access etc.) > > I'll follow-up this mail as soon as all the services are UP again. > > Thanks for your patience, > > Andrea > > [1] http://www.gnome.org/foundation/membership/apply/ > > > -- > Cheers, > > Andrea > > Debian Developer, > Fedora / EPEL packager, > GNOME Sysadmin, > GNOME Foundation Membership & Elections Committee Chairman > > Homepage: http://www.gnome.org/~av > > > _______________________________________________ > foundation-list mailing listfoundation-list@gnome.orghttps://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/foundation-list > > > > _______________________________________________ > foundation-list mailing list > foundation-list@gnome.org > https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/foundation-list > > -- Cheers, Andrea Debian Developer, Fedora / EPEL packager, GNOME Sysadmin, GNOME Foundation Membership & Elections Committee Chairman Homepage: http://www.gnome.org/~av --e89a8ff1c7140fee7204d343a1b8 Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
We can either disable the page on Wordpress itself or add = a little note on the form itself by modyfing the file at [1].

Not sure which one do you prefer!

Andrea



2013/1/14 Andreas Nilsson <lists@andrea= sn.se>
=20 =20 =20
Hi Andrea!
Might be best to disable the form on http://www.gnome.org/foundation/membership/apply/ until thi= s is sorted out.
How do I do this?
- Andreas


On 2013-01-14 17:14, Andrea Veri wrote:
Hi,

unfortunately the machine that was hosting a few (Mango, Foundation DB, Request Tracker) GNOME services died yesterday after serving the GNOME community since 2004.

I'= ll work on restoring all the services as soon as possible but for now please don't try:

1. applying to become a Foundation member through the form at [1].
1. renewing your membership through the form at [1].
2. requesting a new account or any change to it. (email changes, SSH key replacements, FTP access etc.)

I'= ll follow-up this mail as soon as all the services are UP again.

Thanks for your patience,

Andrea=



--
Cheers,

Andrea

Debian Developer,
Fedora / EPEL packager,
GNOME Sysadmin,
GNOME Foundation Membership & Elections Committee Chairman

Homepage: = http://www.gnome.org/~av 


_______________________________________________
foundation-list mailing list
foundation-l=
ist@gnome.org
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Cheers,<= br>
Andrea

Debian Developer,
Fedora / EPEL packager,
GNOME = Sysadmin,
GNOME Foundation Membership & Elections Committee Chairman=

Homepage: http:/= /www.gnome.org/~av
--e89a8ff1c7140fee7204d343a1b8-- From fabianapsimoes@gmail.com Mon Jan 14 18:18:28 2013 Return-Path: X-Original-To: foundation-list@gnome.org Delivered-To: foundation-list@gnome.org Received: from localhost (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5789B750FA6; Mon, 14 Jan 2013 18:18:28 +0000 (UTC) X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at gnome.org X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -2.699 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.699 tagged_above=-999 required=2 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, FREEMAIL_FROM=0.001, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_LOW=-0.7, SPF_PASS=-0.001] autolearn=ham Received: from menubar.gnome.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (menubar.gnome.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id P7eLNLvaaJQl; Mon, 14 Jan 2013 18:18:12 +0000 (UTC) Received: from mail-wi0-f181.google.com (mail-wi0-f181.google.com [209.85.212.181]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 78E4D750F95; Mon, 14 Jan 2013 18:18:11 +0000 (UTC) Received: by mail-wi0-f181.google.com with SMTP id hq4so1484580wib.14 for ; Mon, 14 Jan 2013 10:18:48 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:from:date:message-id:subject:to :cc:content-type; bh=s/mihaUKOSnjScKXH6q+FR+Z3hQiCphnKz5ypMtaWVQ=; b=fR4oPXtlHaNm54M5Isll2T/OMEfEVkpxQpyQUo16SWpoHfQWUySuyppMOQXywFEu/x eHw5/HT7ItgjjYljKHI5Nk4bBJRnmvTnE4nsCHFTn7N73XptzBId9WMdJHSth/3L/ONL XpvQpMKUXg86TFwdVp4FoLVQtn+XCzaRV65YYHvIgWNUxgC7cYFaInAYjqNm9/EfuIqL oA/fk3gBc9vtQAL713LQKJIF5wT452mZinLLjfxDO+PCFkqkrpbAanZ2e3kyJ12jUvAZ EUNx+OOxlpK02F35qUtWMyiUc94d5LwXAbODhfghbEwASTPGFQu5ddmugpuc/VPxX7tk j2NQ== Received: by 10.180.78.226 with SMTP id e2mr14080685wix.1.1358187528165; Mon, 14 Jan 2013 10:18:48 -0800 (PST) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.194.0.227 with HTTP; Mon, 14 Jan 2013 10:18:07 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: References: <50F43711.2000809@andreasn.se> From: =?ISO-8859-1?Q?Fabiana_Sim=F5es?= Date: Mon, 14 Jan 2013 16:18:07 -0200 Message-ID: Subject: Re: Mango / Foundation Database / RT down To: Andrea Veri Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=f46d043c08ca27982a04d343ad41 Cc: Foundation List X-BeenThere: foundation-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: Discussion relating to the GNOME Foundation List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 14 Jan 2013 18:18:28 -0000 --f46d043c08ca27982a04d343ad41 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 I guess a note explaining we'll be back shortly might be nicer and possibly less demotivating to anyone trying to apply meanwhile. Fabiana On 14 January 2013 16:15, Andrea Veri wrote: > We can either disable the page on Wordpress itself or add a little note on > the form itself by modyfing the file at [1]. > > Not sure which one do you prefer! > > Andrea > > [1] http://git.gnome.org/browse/gnome-web-www/tree/theme/page-apply.php > > > 2013/1/14 Andreas Nilsson > >> Hi Andrea! >> Might be best to disable the form on >> http://www.gnome.org/foundation/membership/apply/ until this is sorted >> out. >> How do I do this? >> - Andreas >> >> >> On 2013-01-14 17:14, Andrea Veri wrote: >> >> Hi, >> >> unfortunately the machine that was hosting a few (Mango, Foundation DB, >> Request Tracker) GNOME services died yesterday after serving the GNOME >> community since 2004. >> >> I'll work on restoring all the services as soon as possible but for now >> please don't try: >> >> 1. applying to become a Foundation member through the form at [1]. >> 1. renewing your membership through the form at [1]. >> 2. requesting a new account or any change to it. (email changes, SSH key >> replacements, FTP access etc.) >> >> I'll follow-up this mail as soon as all the services are UP again. >> >> Thanks for your patience, >> >> Andrea >> >> [1] http://www.gnome.org/foundation/membership/apply/ >> >> >> -- >> Cheers, >> >> Andrea >> >> Debian Developer, >> Fedora / EPEL packager, >> GNOME Sysadmin, >> GNOME Foundation Membership & Elections Committee Chairman >> >> Homepage: http://www.gnome.org/~av >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> foundation-list mailing listfoundation-list@gnome.orghttps://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/foundation-list >> >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> foundation-list mailing list >> foundation-list@gnome.org >> https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/foundation-list >> >> > > > -- > Cheers, > > Andrea > > Debian Developer, > Fedora / EPEL packager, > GNOME Sysadmin, > GNOME Foundation Membership & Elections Committee Chairman > > Homepage: http://www.gnome.org/~av > > _______________________________________________ > foundation-list mailing list > foundation-list@gnome.org > https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/foundation-list > > --f46d043c08ca27982a04d343ad41 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
I guess a note explaining we'll be back shortly m= ight be nicer and possibly less demotivating to anyone trying to apply mean= while.

Fabiana


On 14 January 2013 16:15, Andrea Veri <av@gnome.org> wrote:
We can either disable the page on Wordpress itself or add = a little note on the form itself by modyfing the file at [1].

Not sure which one do you prefer!

Andrea



2013/1/14 Andreas Nilsson <lists@andrea= sn.se>
=20 =20 =20
Hi Andrea!
Might be best to disable the form on http://www.gnome.org/foundation/membership/apply/ until thi= s is sorted out.
How do I do this?
- Andreas


On 2013-01-14 17:14, Andrea Veri wrote:
Hi,

unfortunately the machine that was hosting a few (Mango, Foundation DB, Request Tracker) GNOME services died yesterday after serving the GNOME community since 2004.

I'= ll work on restoring all the services as soon as possible but for now please don't try:

1. applying to become a Foundation member through the form at [1].
1. renewing your membership through the form at [1].
2. requesting a new account or any change to it. (email changes, SSH key replacements, FTP access etc.)

I'= ll follow-up this mail as soon as all the services are UP again.

Thanks for your patience,

Andrea=



--
Cheers,

Andrea

Debian Developer,
Fedora / EPEL packager,
GNOME Sysadmin,
GNOME Foundation Membership & Elections Committee Chairman

Homepage: = http://www.gnome.org/~av 


_______________________________________________
foundation-list mailing list
foundation-l=
ist@gnome.org
https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/foundation-list


_______________________________________________
foundation-list mailing list
foundation-l= ist@gnome.org
https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/foundation-list




--
Cheers,<= br>
Andrea

Debian Developer,
Fedora / EPEL packager,
GNOME = Sysadmin,
GNOME Foundation Membership & Elections Committee Chairman=

Homepage: http= ://www.gnome.org/~av

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[83.248.130.230]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id u5sm5836994lbm.8.2013.01.14.10.59.42 (version=TLSv1 cipher=RC4-SHA bits=128/128); Mon, 14 Jan 2013 10:59:43 -0800 (PST) Sender: Andreas Nilsson Message-ID: <50F4559D.2000603@andreasn.se> Date: Mon, 14 Jan 2013 19:59:41 +0100 From: Andreas Nilsson User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux x86_64; rv:17.0) Gecko/17.0 Thunderbird/17.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 CC: Foundation List Subject: Re: Mango / Foundation Database / RT down References: <50F43711.2000809@andreasn.se> In-Reply-To: Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="------------040609010404030108080306" X-BeenThere: foundation-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: Discussion relating to the GNOME Foundation List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 14 Jan 2013 18:59:11 -0000 This is a multi-part message in MIME format. --------------040609010404030108080306 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Fixed! - Andreas On 2013-01-14 19:18, Fabiana Simơes wrote: > I guess a note explaining we'll be back shortly might be nicer and > possibly less demotivating to anyone trying to apply meanwhile. > > Fabiana > > > On 14 January 2013 16:15, Andrea Veri > wrote: > > We can either disable the page on Wordpress itself or add a little > note on the form itself by modyfing the file at [1]. > > Not sure which one do you prefer! > > Andrea > > [1] > http://git.gnome.org/browse/gnome-web-www/tree/theme/page-apply.php > > > 2013/1/14 Andreas Nilsson > > > Hi Andrea! > Might be best to disable the form on > http://www.gnome.org/foundation/membership/apply/ until this > is sorted out. > How do I do this? > - Andreas > > > On 2013-01-14 17:14, Andrea Veri wrote: >> Hi, >> >> unfortunately the machine that was hosting a few (Mango, >> Foundation DB, Request Tracker) GNOME services died yesterday >> after serving the GNOME community since 2004. >> >> I'll work on restoring all the services as soon as possible >> but for now please don't try: >> >> 1. applying to become a Foundation member through the form at >> [1]. >> 1. renewing your membership through the form at [1]. >> 2. requesting a new account or any change to it. (email >> changes, SSH key replacements, FTP access etc.) >> >> I'll follow-up this mail as soon as all the services are UP >> again. >> >> Thanks for your patience, >> >> Andrea >> >> [1] http://www.gnome.org/foundation/membership/apply/ >> >> >> -- >> Cheers, >> >> Andrea >> >> Debian Developer, >> Fedora / EPEL packager, >> GNOME Sysadmin, >> GNOME Foundation Membership & Elections Committee Chairman >> >> Homepage: http://www.gnome.org/~av >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> foundation-list mailing list >> foundation-list@gnome.org >> https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/foundation-list > > > _______________________________________________ > foundation-list mailing list > foundation-list@gnome.org > https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/foundation-list > > > > > -- > Cheers, > > Andrea > > Debian Developer, > Fedora / EPEL packager, > GNOME Sysadmin, > GNOME Foundation Membership & Elections Committee Chairman > > Homepage: http://www.gnome.org/~av > > _______________________________________________ > foundation-list mailing list > foundation-list@gnome.org > https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/foundation-list > > --------------040609010404030108080306 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Fixed!
- Andreas

On 2013-01-14 19:18, Fabiana Simões wrote:
I guess a note explaining we'll be back shortly might be nicer and possibly less demotivating to anyone trying to apply meanwhile.

Fabiana


On 14 January 2013 16:15, Andrea Veri <av@gnome.org> wrote:
We can either disable the page on Wordpress itself or add a little note on the form itself by modyfing the file at [1].

Not sure which one do you prefer!

Andrea



2013/1/14 Andreas Nilsson <lists@andreasn.se>
Hi Andrea!
Might be best to disable the form on http://www.gnome.org/foundation/membership/apply/ until this is sorted out.
How do I do this?
- Andreas


On 2013-01-14 17:14, Andrea Veri wrote:
Hi,

unfortunately the machine that was hosting a few (Mango, Foundation DB, Request Tracker) GNOME services died yesterday after serving the GNOME community since 2004.

I'll work on restoring all the services as soon as possible but for now please don't try:

1. applying to become a Foundation member through the form at [1].
1. renewing your membership through the form at [1].
2. requesting a new account or any change to it. (email changes, SSH key replacements, FTP access etc.)

I'll follow-up this mail as soon as all the services are UP again.

Thanks for your patience,

Andrea



--
Cheers,

Andrea

Debian Developer,
Fedora / EPEL packager,
GNOME Sysadmin,
GNOME Foundation Membership & Elections Committee Chairman

Homepage: http://www.gnome.org/~av 


_______________________________________________
foundation-list mailing list
foundation-list@gnome.org
https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/foundation-list


_______________________________________________
foundation-list mailing list
foundation-list@gnome.org
https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/foundation-list




--
Cheers,

Andrea

Debian Developer,
Fedora / EPEL packager,
GNOME Sysadmin,
GNOME Foundation Membership & Elections Committee Chairman

Homepage: http://www.gnome.org/~av

_______________________________________________
foundation-list mailing list
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--------------040609010404030108080306-- From andrea.veri@gmail.com Tue Jan 15 15:29:49 2013 Return-Path: X-Original-To: foundation-list@gnome.org Delivered-To: foundation-list@gnome.org Received: from localhost (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1617575025A for ; Tue, 15 Jan 2013 15:29:49 +0000 (UTC) X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at gnome.org X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -2.599 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.599 tagged_above=-999 required=2 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, FREEMAIL_FROM=0.001, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_LOW=-0.7, SPF_PASS=-0.001] autolearn=ham Received: from menubar.gnome.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (menubar.gnome.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id J8IQUJd1dV41 for ; Tue, 15 Jan 2013 15:29:46 +0000 (UTC) Received: from mail-oa0-f46.google.com (mail-oa0-f46.google.com [209.85.219.46]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9C08B75027B for ; Tue, 15 Jan 2013 15:29:46 +0000 (UTC) Received: by mail-oa0-f46.google.com with SMTP id h16so240687oag.19 for ; Tue, 15 Jan 2013 07:30:25 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:sender:in-reply-to:references:date :x-google-sender-auth:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=eAxye8qV3MpELHNWt/VmlxOsh8nA2FxomH4hGAegTOo=; b=TK3kWOCkFg7SMtlPdVln40Q6dxG5JZwOv6z/P/pOhdciZQ97451TvmP7cjMRRrqven shUXLhyOrXEkSocRD7oVjt2xtcHBEk43dB118ZKOo1nQPP29kcVkaUyxHdBVHJdYsnMa dNndIMm+LQhiCXab2q26Focn3LSBgEdWwcudisBwiytmJXfpJwEfPCqWsPawxB2krYyx u/lm8oDZUWP2WOUj+Oy54ETRElCfmoSLwPR4h7+KCRgAu4ZC7nJWkxpMX+b3DcChvd3c e0VprlqzbOEKr52JeJ3cC26fTYO273XMZCuNQtWjsFwZgVRfAggRrHRQHKM8JEeicHhG 3PEA== MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.182.53.3 with SMTP id x3mr65403622obo.87.1358263825096; Tue, 15 Jan 2013 07:30:25 -0800 (PST) Sender: andrea.veri@gmail.com Received: by 10.76.7.1 with HTTP; Tue, 15 Jan 2013 07:30:24 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: References: Date: Tue, 15 Jan 2013 16:30:24 +0100 X-Google-Sender-Auth: IGw1A3vDiUXMY2FPm6mWRvTI8Xs Message-ID: Subject: Re: Mango / Foundation Database / RT down From: Andrea Veri To: Foundation List Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=f46d044630a0ce5ef904d355709d X-BeenThere: foundation-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: Discussion relating to the GNOME Foundation List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 15 Jan 2013 15:29:49 -0000 --f46d044630a0ce5ef904d355709d Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Hi, I've finally managed to migrate all the services to a new machine. You should be able to apply/renew your membership and request changes to your accounts again. Thanks for your patience and have an awesome day! 2013/1/14 Andrea Veri > Hi, > > unfortunately the machine that was hosting a few (Mango, Foundation DB, > Request Tracker) GNOME services died yesterday after serving the GNOME > community since 2004. > > I'll work on restoring all the services as soon as possible but for now > please don't try: > > 1. applying to become a Foundation member through the form at [1]. > 1. renewing your membership through the form at [1]. > 2. requesting a new account or any change to it. (email changes, SSH key > replacements, FTP access etc.) > > I'll follow-up this mail as soon as all the services are UP again. > > Thanks for your patience, > > Andrea > > [1] http://www.gnome.org/foundation/membership/apply/ > > > -- > Cheers, > > Andrea > > Debian Developer, > Fedora / EPEL packager, > GNOME Sysadmin, > GNOME Foundation Membership & Elections Committee Chairman > > Homepage: http://www.gnome.org/~av > -- Cheers, Andrea Debian Developer, Fedora / EPEL packager, GNOME Sysadmin, GNOME Foundation Membership & Elections Committee Chairman Homepage: http://www.gnome.org/~av --f46d044630a0ce5ef904d355709d Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Hi,

I've finally managed to migrate= all the services to a new machine. You should be able to apply/renew your = membership and request changes to your accounts again.

Thanks for your patience and have an awesome day!


2013/1/14 Andrea= Veri <av@gnome.org>
Hi,

unfortunately the machine that was hosting a few (Mango, Foundation DB, Req= uest Tracker) GNOME services died yesterday after serving the GNOME communi= ty since 2004.

I'= ll work on restoring all the services as soon as possible but for now pleas= e don't try:

1. app= lying to become a Foundation member through the form at [1].
1. renewing your membersh= ip through the form at [1].
2. requesting a = new account or any change to it. (email changes, SSH key replacements, FTP = access etc.)

I'= ll follow-up this mail as soon as all the services are UP again.

Thanks for your patience,

Andrea



--
Cheers,

Andrea

Debian Developer,
Fed= ora / EPEL packager,
GNOME Sysadmin,
GNOME Foundation Membership &= ; Elections Committee Chairman

Homepage: http://www.gnome.org/~av



--
Cheers,
<= br>Andrea

Debian Developer,
Fedora / EPEL packager,
GNOME Sysa= dmin,
GNOME Foundation Membership & Elections Committee Chairman

Homepage: http:/= /www.gnome.org/~av
--f46d044630a0ce5ef904d355709d-- From dodji@seketeli.org Wed Jan 16 15:59:27 2013 Return-Path: X-Original-To: foundation-list@gnome.org Delivered-To: foundation-list@gnome.org Received: from localhost (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 01C9A75050B for ; Wed, 16 Jan 2013 15:59:27 +0000 (UTC) X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at gnome.org X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -0.357 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-0.357 tagged_above=-999 required=2 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, DATE_IN_PAST_06_12=1.543] autolearn=no Received: from menubar.gnome.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (menubar.gnome.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id vxdebXIIigiQ for ; Wed, 16 Jan 2013 15:59:13 +0000 (UTC) Received: from ms.seketeli.net (seketeli.net [91.121.166.71]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DC5567504FE for ; Wed, 16 Jan 2013 15:59:12 +0000 (UTC) Received: from localhost (torimasen.com [82.237.12.13]) by ms.seketeli.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id C6AFBEA085 for ; Wed, 16 Jan 2013 17:20:21 +0100 (CET) Received: by localhost (Postfix, from userid 1000) id 4CB199F2D8; Wed, 16 Jan 2013 09:58:04 +0100 (CET) From: Dodji Seketeli To: Foundation List Subject: Re: Mango / Foundation Database / RT down Organization: Me, myself and I References: Mail-Followup-To: Foundation List X-Operating-System: Fedora 19 X-URL: http://www.seketeli.net/~dodji Date: Wed, 16 Jan 2013 09:58:04 +0100 In-Reply-To: (Andrea Veri's message of "Tue, 15 Jan 2013 16:30:24 +0100") Message-ID: <87txqh7bdv.fsf@seketeli.org> User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/24.2 (gnu/linux) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-BeenThere: foundation-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: Discussion relating to the GNOME Foundation List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 16 Jan 2013 15:59:27 -0000 Andrea Veri a =C3=A9crit: > I've finally managed to migrate all the services to a new machine. You > should be able to apply/renew your membership and request changes to your > accounts again. \o/. This was fast! > Thanks for your patience No. Thank *you* for the awesome work and extreme dedication. --=20 Dodji From sri@ramkrishna.me Wed Jan 16 16:26:39 2013 Return-Path: X-Original-To: foundation-list@gnome.org Delivered-To: foundation-list@gnome.org Received: from localhost (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CDFE7750514 for ; Wed, 16 Jan 2013 16:26:39 +0000 (UTC) X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at gnome.org X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -2.599 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.599 tagged_above=-999 required=2 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_LOW=-0.7] autolearn=ham Received: from menubar.gnome.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (menubar.gnome.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id h-Bct4p5XR9L for ; Wed, 16 Jan 2013 16:26:26 +0000 (UTC) Received: from mail-vc0-f177.google.com (mail-vc0-f177.google.com [209.85.220.177]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4454C7504FE for ; Wed, 16 Jan 2013 16:26:26 +0000 (UTC) Received: by mail-vc0-f177.google.com with SMTP id fo14so1261406vcb.8 for ; Wed, 16 Jan 2013 08:27:07 -0800 (PST) X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=google.com; s=20120113; h=x-received:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:from:date:message-id :subject:to:content-type:x-gm-message-state; bh=Bgeuh3DDFgy8Y9k5P2xuhVV1Mo4h4PphC8WsWiJ9wxw=; b=dwoVgM/pdTgMy4g5NDAXJ6716iD6HDovNDdFpHEmqX+JnpXsGTOn2jJtrSws/FOANM vSG0WJyXbukoAY/L3yBPnso86A+6uFGtovtcEjoSEJGsxrWKmz1JHymN+e6/gWH3A4jj r8VlKVEs6EJz9arHa93Aa5yl/pu/uThGn4A27Zo+Wp5a/CuMjg0Kvyx21hE17MY4aRjS w39bU/D7WCk3qjhBiZMPu1rWGshC0YOr72Vpl+B5FFlwovrCgDP5lO2DS3YvO/np7oyy Mlwyd+mkfMh7HesD1/FK9jvKDo66iTu1qGR3QFP3XAikpVLRy/Au3Wd3wgBLwVsJtc+Z d+yQ== X-Received: by 10.52.20.108 with SMTP id m12mr1641925vde.11.1358353626824; Wed, 16 Jan 2013 08:27:06 -0800 (PST) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.58.132.206 with HTTP; Wed, 16 Jan 2013 08:26:45 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: <87txqh7bdv.fsf@seketeli.org> References: <87txqh7bdv.fsf@seketeli.org> From: Sriram Ramkrishna Date: Wed, 16 Jan 2013 08:26:45 -0800 Message-ID: Subject: Re: Mango / Foundation Database / RT down To: Foundation List Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=20cf307d056c67fff904d36a5909 X-Gm-Message-State: ALoCoQn5QLl0PAHmr6xjk5ehigNbvIXSyL991178LS0NZ3+s6595rogWpZoZmbGRkzvtclF1Jbn8 X-BeenThere: foundation-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: Discussion relating to the GNOME Foundation List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 16 Jan 2013 16:26:40 -0000 --20cf307d056c67fff904d36a5909 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable +1 On Wed, Jan 16, 2013 at 12:58 AM, Dodji Seketeli wrote= : > Andrea Veri a =E9crit: > > > I've finally managed to migrate all the services to a new machine. You > > should be able to apply/renew your membership and request changes to yo= ur > > accounts again. > > \o/. This was fast! > > > Thanks for your patience > > No. Thank *you* for the awesome work and extreme dedication. > > -- > Dodji > _______________________________________________ > foundation-list mailing list > foundation-list@gnome.org > https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/foundation-list > --20cf307d056c67fff904d36a5909 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
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On Wed, Jan 16, 2013 at 12:58 AM, Dodji Seketeli <dodji@= seketeli.org> wrote:
Andrea Veri <av@gnome.org> a =E9crit:

> I've finally managed to migrate all the services to a new machine.= You
> should be able to apply/renew your membership and request changes to y= our
> accounts again.

\o/. =A0This was fast!

> Thanks for your patience

No. =A0Thank *you* for the awesome work and extreme dedication.

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--20cf307d056c67fff904d36a5909-- From tobiasmue@gnome.org Wed Jan 16 19:10:48 2013 Return-Path: X-Original-To: foundation-list@gnome.org Delivered-To: foundation-list@gnome.org Received: from localhost (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1198A75129F; Wed, 16 Jan 2013 19:10:48 +0000 (UTC) X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at gnome.org X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -1.121 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.121 tagged_above=-999 required=2 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, SPF_NEUTRAL=0.779] autolearn=no Received: from menubar.gnome.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (menubar.gnome.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id v4+4-xdt9ocX; Wed, 16 Jan 2013 19:10:43 +0000 (UTC) Received: from mail.cryptobitch.de (cryptobitch.de [88.198.7.68]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id AEE20751294; Wed, 16 Jan 2013 19:10:26 +0000 (UTC) Received: from [192.168.0.107] (port-15991.pppoe.wtnet.de [84.46.62.181]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-CAMELLIA256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by mail.cryptobitch.de (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 9F8D1608D99; Wed, 16 Jan 2013 20:11:05 +0100 (CET) Message-ID: <50F6FB47.9080301@gnome.org> Date: Wed, 16 Jan 2013 20:11:03 +0100 From: Tobias Mueller User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux x86_64; rv:17.0) Gecko/17.0 Thunderbird/17.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: foundation-list Subject: Re: FOSDEM 2013 - GNOME Stand References: <50B02724.7020806@cryptobitch.de> In-Reply-To: <50B02724.7020806@cryptobitch.de> X-Enigmail-Version: 1.4.6 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="------------enig367E9288327498653971D00C" Cc: marketing-list X-BeenThere: foundation-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: Discussion relating to the GNOME Foundation List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 16 Jan 2013 19:10:49 -0000 This is an OpenPGP/MIME signed message (RFC 2440 and 3156) --------------enig367E9288327498653971D00C Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Bonjour a tous :-) For all that plan to come to FOSDEM: On 24.11.2012 02:47, Tobias Mueller wrote: > It'd be cool, if you could use the wiki page over here this year: > We are organising the booth here: . Please consider helping out, especially in the morning and evenings. Thanks, Tobi --------------enig367E9288327498653971D00C Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name="signature.asc" Content-Description: OpenPGP digital signature Content-Disposition: attachment; filename="signature.asc" -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.12 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with undefined - http://www.enigmail.net/ iEYEARECAAYFAlD2+0cACgkQ9woCkGwwGBMXGgCfe6qBrxebHKGUYr8x4bEbcLdp uf0AoIFQP+mv7ZVjhHLvXd4Oi4xR50X7 =ZxLd -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --------------enig367E9288327498653971D00C-- From muelli@cryptobitch.de Sat Jan 19 17:39:15 2013 Return-Path: X-Original-To: foundation-list@gnome.org Delivered-To: foundation-list@gnome.org Received: from localhost (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DD20075023C; Sat, 19 Jan 2013 17:39:15 +0000 (UTC) X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at gnome.org X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -1.901 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.901 tagged_above=-999 required=2 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, RP_MATCHES_RCVD=-0.001] autolearn=ham Received: from menubar.gnome.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (menubar.gnome.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 1oZ0kemOmDp6; Sat, 19 Jan 2013 17:39:14 +0000 (UTC) Received: from mail.cryptobitch.de (cryptobitch.de [88.198.7.68]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CF036750120; Sat, 19 Jan 2013 17:39:13 +0000 (UTC) Received: from [192.168.0.107] (port-20619.pppoe.wtnet.de [46.59.142.50]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-CAMELLIA256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by mail.cryptobitch.de (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id D8CAD604A11; Sat, 19 Jan 2013 18:39:11 +0100 (CET) Message-ID: <50FADA3E.1060106@cryptobitch.de> Date: Sat, 19 Jan 2013 18:39:10 +0100 From: Tobias Mueller User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux x86_64; rv:17.0) Gecko/17.0 Thunderbird/17.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: foundation-list Subject: LinuxTag 2013 - Call for Papers X-Enigmail-Version: 1.4.6 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="------------enig626D6637DD3E2D956D79803B" Cc: marketing-list X-BeenThere: foundation-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: Discussion relating to the GNOME Foundation List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 19 Jan 2013 17:39:16 -0000 This is an OpenPGP/MIME signed message (RFC 2440 and 3156) --------------enig626D6637DD3E2D956D79803B Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hey everyone. The LinuxTag 2013 takes place in Berlin, Germany, from Wednesday, 2013-05-22 until Thursday, 2013-05-23. It's a mix of a conference and expo and we still have the chance to hand in GNOME talks to have a strong presence there. I just submitted a request for a GNOME booth. If you're interested in helping out there, let the wiki know: The website is here: . There is no real conclusion as to when the Call for Papers ends, but it will be very soon. So if you have something to talk about, consider submitting something to LinuxTag. Let me you if you need any help. Cheers, Tobi --------------enig626D6637DD3E2D956D79803B Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name="signature.asc" Content-Description: OpenPGP digital signature Content-Disposition: attachment; filename="signature.asc" -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.12 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with undefined - http://www.enigmail.net/ iEYEARECAAYFAlD62j4ACgkQnO4bawWbWY5Q7wCg1/6NZDsmOj+nxCzw8K19kb/R lvQAoJPBEawu6arZvzcFYHjfRgJ1FW8Q =UFJI -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --------------enig626D6637DD3E2D956D79803B-- From karen@gnome.org Thu Jan 24 20:33:43 2013 Return-Path: X-Original-To: foundation-list@gnome.org Delivered-To: foundation-list@gnome.org Received: from localhost (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 16FF6750020; Thu, 24 Jan 2013 20:33:43 +0000 (UTC) X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at gnome.org X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -3.421 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-3.421 tagged_above=-999 required=2 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_MED=-2.3, SPF_NEUTRAL=0.779] autolearn=ham Received: from menubar.gnome.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (menubar.gnome.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 7ncpdDphEZhe; Thu, 24 Jan 2013 20:33:39 +0000 (UTC) Received: from pure.motives.com (pure.motives.com [207.192.71.45]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5B7A07500FB; Thu, 24 Jan 2013 20:33:39 +0000 (UTC) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by pure.motives.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id DCB00840C4; Thu, 24 Jan 2013 15:33:37 -0500 (EST) Received: from pure.motives.com ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (pure.motives.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id xyPbmaHW+EdB; Thu, 24 Jan 2013 15:33:37 -0500 (EST) Received: from secure.motives.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by pure.motives.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 15DEE840C1; Thu, 24 Jan 2013 15:33:37 -0500 (EST) Received: from 184.152.52.83 (SquirrelMail authenticated user karen) by secure.motives.com with HTTP; Thu, 24 Jan 2013 15:33:37 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: Date: Thu, 24 Jan 2013 15:33:37 -0500 (EST) Subject: help us with the booth at FOSDEM! From: "Karen Sandler" To: foundation-list@gnome.org User-Agent: SquirrelMail/1.4.15 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain;charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Importance: Normal Cc: marketing-list@gnome.org X-BeenThere: foundation-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list Reply-To: karen@gnome.org List-Id: Discussion relating to the GNOME Foundation List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 24 Jan 2013 20:33:43 -0000 hey everyone! Going to FOSDEM next week? Mind helping us out with the booth? Please sign up here: https://live.gnome.org/GnomeEvents/FOSDEM/2013/Stand#preview It would be great to have a strong presence there and assure that no one's stuck there by themselves for too long of a period of time. I especially hope that those people attending who had their travel sponsored for hackfest participation strongly consider volunteering for this too :) karen From karen@gnome.org Fri Jan 25 04:29:16 2013 Return-Path: X-Original-To: foundation-list@gnome.org Delivered-To: foundation-list@gnome.org Received: from localhost (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id F36137502B5; Fri, 25 Jan 2013 04:29:15 +0000 (UTC) X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at gnome.org X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -3.421 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-3.421 tagged_above=-999 required=2 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_MED=-2.3, SPF_NEUTRAL=0.779] autolearn=ham Received: from menubar.gnome.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (menubar.gnome.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id h1EE-ccXsJFl; Fri, 25 Jan 2013 04:29:14 +0000 (UTC) Received: from pure.motives.com (pure.motives.com [207.192.71.45]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5B15D7501D2; Fri, 25 Jan 2013 04:29:14 +0000 (UTC) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by pure.motives.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id A58A0840C5; Thu, 24 Jan 2013 23:29:12 -0500 (EST) Received: from pure.motives.com ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (pure.motives.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id xatMaiFo6SmN; Thu, 24 Jan 2013 23:29:10 -0500 (EST) Received: from secure.motives.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by pure.motives.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 271DB840C1; Thu, 24 Jan 2013 23:29:09 -0500 (EST) Received: from 184.152.52.83 (SquirrelMail authenticated user karen) by secure.motives.com with HTTP; Thu, 24 Jan 2013 23:29:10 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: <0e332dcb5f48559eab0b4d49934dfd90.squirrel@secure.motives.com> Date: Thu, 24 Jan 2013 23:29:10 -0500 (EST) Subject: Andrea Veri - GNOME's new part-time sysadmin hire! From: "Karen Sandler" To: foundation-announce@gnome.org, "Foundation List" User-Agent: SquirrelMail/1.4.15 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain;charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Importance: Normal X-BeenThere: foundation-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list Reply-To: karen@gnome.org List-Id: Discussion relating to the GNOME Foundation List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 25 Jan 2013 04:29:16 -0000 In the spirit of the below email from last week, I'm extremely pleased to announce that the Foundation is hiring Andrea to work as our new sysadmin contractor. We've been without someone in this position since Christer stepped down last year, and Andrea has really been sensational as a volunteer and done a great deal of the work in the meantime. I'm confident that Andrea will continue to do a great job for GNOME! And we've got a lot of work to do. Thanks to the rest of the sysadmin team, the GNOME board and those of you who emailed me suggesting that we do this very thing. karen On Wed, January 16, 2013 3:58 am, Dodji Seketeli wrote: > Andrea Veri a Ă©crit: > >> I've finally managed to migrate all the services to a new machine. You >> should be able to apply/renew your membership and request changes to >> your >> accounts again. > > \o/. This was fast! > >> Thanks for your patience > > No. Thank *you* for the awesome work and extreme dedication. From sri@ramkrishna.me Fri Jan 25 04:57:46 2013 Return-Path: X-Original-To: foundation-list@gnome.org Delivered-To: foundation-list@gnome.org Received: from localhost (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7FEF77502D4 for ; Fri, 25 Jan 2013 04:57:46 +0000 (UTC) X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at gnome.org X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -2.599 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.599 tagged_above=-999 required=2 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_LOW=-0.7] autolearn=unavailable Received: from menubar.gnome.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (menubar.gnome.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id qHtqJ2BFme13 for ; Fri, 25 Jan 2013 04:57:40 +0000 (UTC) Received: from mail-ve0-f171.google.com (mail-ve0-f171.google.com [209.85.128.171]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id ACB637501D2 for ; Fri, 25 Jan 2013 04:57:39 +0000 (UTC) Received: by mail-ve0-f171.google.com with SMTP id 14so1866589vea.16 for ; Thu, 24 Jan 2013 20:57:37 -0800 (PST) X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=google.com; s=20120113; h=x-received:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:from:date:message-id :subject:to:cc:content-type:x-gm-message-state; bh=dOSS42MCMyFv/qKWspEj5ITdVHAsoJCGVlAPwu+Xp2k=; b=QpxIDkcSpn6IpvBERBDah3tavNKwNbGJgmUDmhaGFSO++zeI42+edMsCGzrqjnbkLs QlPhPj3aWKZQlKVxhaKzsvsCk38vAD7Mvd0tGflCLhfROpsW8A1bbV8k+2li+em+ay8V y7Ok/i3vjjhF6CxvRI3NuNMPVOTLc/gJ4M068xIF8pkaIgSVUjDwZCGzoA1ISPM2jTBj Hpmi8vR9MKI1p7xQoPIaxlX4IWLNpXHzDPwpgb9Kn0q471QGTjUff+Jl1nkdR4QTK6PC xPBDnbZTuTgVZDCGt6OPzFbS8iTHF/facs4B0x4TGuAmhh6nDqlPkf/VN9B1dwIBirmZ rsOQ== X-Received: by 10.220.150.210 with SMTP id z18mr4711365vcv.2.1359089857623; Thu, 24 Jan 2013 20:57:37 -0800 (PST) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.58.132.206 with HTTP; Thu, 24 Jan 2013 20:57:17 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: <0e332dcb5f48559eab0b4d49934dfd90.squirrel@secure.motives.com> References: <0e332dcb5f48559eab0b4d49934dfd90.squirrel@secure.motives.com> From: Sriram Ramkrishna Date: Thu, 24 Jan 2013 20:57:17 -0800 Message-ID: Subject: Re: Andrea Veri - GNOME's new part-time sysadmin hire! To: Karen Sandler Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=f46d043894272e785804d415c4c5 X-Gm-Message-State: ALoCoQnxojmghEyuQ069kNhRrFaqfPqBUmGH9MJwK+w2b07mu3ACRe33OK0rq6GP+Sx/OUC+w24l Cc: foundation-announce@gnome.org, Foundation List X-BeenThere: foundation-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: Discussion relating to the GNOME Foundation List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 25 Jan 2013 04:57:46 -0000 --f46d043894272e785804d415c4c5 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Congratulations, Andrea! Well deserved! I hope all of you will support Andrea in his new post as sysadmin. I know I will! sri On Thu, Jan 24, 2013 at 8:29 PM, Karen Sandler wrote: > In the spirit of the below email from last week, I'm extremely pleased to > announce that the Foundation is hiring Andrea to work as our new sysadmin > contractor. We've been without someone in this position since Christer > stepped down last year, and Andrea has really been sensational as a > volunteer and done a great deal of the work in the meantime. > > I'm confident that Andrea will continue to do a great job for GNOME! And > we've got a lot of work to do. > > Thanks to the rest of the sysadmin team, the GNOME board and those of you > who emailed me suggesting that we do this very thing. > > karen > > On Wed, January 16, 2013 3:58 am, Dodji Seketeli wrote: > > Andrea Veri a =C3=A9crit: > > > >> I've finally managed to migrate all the services to a new machine. You > >> should be able to apply/renew your membership and request changes to > >> your > >> accounts again. > > > > \o/. This was fast! > > > >> Thanks for your patience > > > > No. Thank *you* for the awesome work and extreme dedication. > > > > _______________________________________________ > foundation-list mailing list > foundation-list@gnome.org > https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/foundation-list > --f46d043894272e785804d415c4c5 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Congratulations, Andrea!=A0 Well deserved!=A0 I hope all o= f you will support Andrea in his new post as sysadmin.=A0 I know I will!
sri


On Thu, Jan 24, 2013 at 8:29 PM, Karen Sandler <<= a href=3D"mailto:karen@gnome.org" target=3D"_blank">karen@gnome.org>= wrote:
In the spirit of the below email from last w= eek, I'm extremely pleased to
announce that the Foundation is hiring Andrea to work as our new sysadmin contractor. We've been without someone in this position since Christer<= br> stepped down last year, and Andrea has really been sensational as a
volunteer and done a great deal of the work in the meantime.

I'm confident that Andrea will continue to do a great job for GNOME! An= d
we've got a lot of work to do.

Thanks to the rest of the sysadmin team, the GNOME board and those of you who emailed me suggesting that we do this very thing.

karen

On Wed, January 16, 2013 3:58 am, Dodji Seketeli wrote:
> Andrea Veri <av@gnome.org> a= =C3=A9crit:
>
>> I've finally managed to migrate all the services to a new mach= ine. You
>> should be able to apply/renew your membership and request changes = to
>> your
>> accounts again.
>
> \o/. =A0This was fast!
>
>> Thanks for your patience
>
> No. =A0Thank *you* for the awesome work and extreme dedication.



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foundation-list mailing list
foundation-list@gnome.org<= br> https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/foundation-list

--f46d043894272e785804d415c4c5-- From luis.villa@gmail.com Fri Jan 25 05:08:41 2013 Return-Path: X-Original-To: foundation-list@gnome.org Delivered-To: foundation-list@gnome.org Received: from localhost (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E6FCC7502D4; Fri, 25 Jan 2013 05:08:40 +0000 (UTC) X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at gnome.org X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -2.6 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.6 tagged_above=-999 required=2 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, FREEMAIL_FROM=0.001, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_LOW=-0.7, SPF_PASS=-0.001] autolearn=ham Received: from menubar.gnome.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (menubar.gnome.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id klIn9g8eBDwV; Fri, 25 Jan 2013 05:08:24 +0000 (UTC) Received: from mail-lb0-f169.google.com (mail-lb0-f169.google.com [209.85.217.169]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4ECEB7501D2; Fri, 25 Jan 2013 05:08:22 +0000 (UTC) Received: by mail-lb0-f169.google.com with SMTP id m4so65417lbo.14 for ; Thu, 24 Jan 2013 21:08:20 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:x-received:sender:in-reply-to:references:date :x-google-sender-auth:message-id:subject:from:to:cc:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; bh=oZSClRwzGUDVDrzGTIz32xuQBW5Qke78XQk056172vI=; b=KWgW+k4Wt2n4yQpLrheSGOiKeWf9iuJLBqpoxdGo4BJ+r4iE5oUQ8L0HbElBD+SU8f /bsOzEpXbNmfhMgpdH3tV52HF0Fb2B50vcI8YhxoGCvv4BddvXC39o64O27+PSt9BXc1 uA4j3MUcF6tHBAuVfPKN8TyrG7ncs4/E9wU3vD/QV5BAcX4+1J5CbOY4IHI8+Ne5jb4d 4kai4D5fRP50x75C2nVed+hBEZujucYZpSat1onkMue9WZJ/u85yNd/ZVlZa+rCTqyJF Feg0EuVJ4NPJjqdWLSnnOkxj61KrAycGdXXLTjtnXy9PK7V9u5nsjurDU1cClH/7il8g QEnA== MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Received: by 10.152.136.20 with SMTP id pw20mr3955836lab.16.1359090500625; Thu, 24 Jan 2013 21:08:20 -0800 (PST) Sender: luis.villa@gmail.com Received: by 10.114.11.68 with HTTP; Thu, 24 Jan 2013 21:08:20 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: <0e332dcb5f48559eab0b4d49934dfd90.squirrel@secure.motives.com> References: <0e332dcb5f48559eab0b4d49934dfd90.squirrel@secure.motives.com> Date: Thu, 24 Jan 2013 21:08:20 -0800 X-Google-Sender-Auth: BD6YaxHaHFdIctKGnuzVhbazkPI Message-ID: Subject: Re: Andrea Veri - GNOME's new part-time sysadmin hire! From: Luis Villa To: karen@gnome.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Cc: foundation-announce@gnome.org, Foundation List X-BeenThere: foundation-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: Discussion relating to the GNOME Foundation List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 25 Jan 2013 05:08:41 -0000 Terrific news! And thanks also to all the supporters of the Foundation over the year who have made this sort of hire possible - this investment in infrastructure and support is extremely important to GNOME's long-term health. On Thu, Jan 24, 2013 at 8:29 PM, Karen Sandler wrote: > In the spirit of the below email from last week, I'm extremely pleased to > announce that the Foundation is hiring Andrea to work as our new sysadmin > contractor. We've been without someone in this position since Christer > stepped down last year, and Andrea has really been sensational as a > volunteer and done a great deal of the work in the meantime. > > I'm confident that Andrea will continue to do a great job for GNOME! And > we've got a lot of work to do. > > Thanks to the rest of the sysadmin team, the GNOME board and those of you > who emailed me suggesting that we do this very thing. > > karen > > On Wed, January 16, 2013 3:58 am, Dodji Seketeli wrote: >> Andrea Veri a =C3=A9crit: >> >>> I've finally managed to migrate all the services to a new machine. You >>> should be able to apply/renew your membership and request changes to >>> your >>> accounts again. >> >> \o/. This was fast! >> >>> Thanks for your patience >> >> No. Thank *you* for the awesome work and extreme dedication. > > > > _______________________________________________ > foundation-list mailing list > foundation-list@gnome.org > https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/foundation-list From karen@gnome.org Fri Jan 25 05:16:57 2013 Return-Path: X-Original-To: foundation-list@gnome.org Delivered-To: foundation-list@gnome.org Received: from localhost (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 55FB67502D4 for ; Fri, 25 Jan 2013 05:16:57 +0000 (UTC) X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at gnome.org X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -3.421 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-3.421 tagged_above=-999 required=2 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_MED=-2.3, SPF_NEUTRAL=0.779] autolearn=ham Received: from menubar.gnome.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (menubar.gnome.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id Piu8Bqgsz2Lj for ; Fri, 25 Jan 2013 05:16:55 +0000 (UTC) Received: from pure.motives.com (pure.motives.com [207.192.71.45]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 10BB97502B5 for ; Fri, 25 Jan 2013 05:16:54 +0000 (UTC) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by pure.motives.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 85445136A91; Fri, 25 Jan 2013 00:16:53 -0500 (EST) Received: from pure.motives.com ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (pure.motives.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id iK7lBKMxMNNc; Fri, 25 Jan 2013 00:16:52 -0500 (EST) Received: from secure.motives.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by pure.motives.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4DBE4136A67; Fri, 25 Jan 2013 00:16:50 -0500 (EST) Received: from 184.152.52.83 (SquirrelMail authenticated user karen) by secure.motives.com with HTTP; Fri, 25 Jan 2013 00:16:52 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: <1b127b36b91f64adfd73f2f7c8568da6.squirrel@secure.motives.com> In-Reply-To: References: <0e332dcb5f48559eab0b4d49934dfd90.squirrel@secure.motives.com> Date: Fri, 25 Jan 2013 00:16:52 -0500 (EST) Subject: Re: Andrea Veri - GNOME's new part-time sysadmin hire! From: "Karen Sandler" To: "Luis Villa" User-Agent: SquirrelMail/1.4.15 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain;charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Importance: Normal Cc: Foundation List X-BeenThere: foundation-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list Reply-To: karen@gnome.org List-Id: Discussion relating to the GNOME Foundation List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 25 Jan 2013 05:16:57 -0000 On Fri, January 25, 2013 12:08 am, Luis Villa wrote: > Terrific news! > > And thanks also to all the supporters of the Foundation over the year > who have made this sort of hire possible - this investment in > infrastructure and support is extremely important to GNOME's long-term > health. Great point, Luis! I should note that this is made possible by both our individual Friends of GNOME sponsors and our corporate supporters. There's tons of work to be done, which I hope will help us in the coming years! karen > > On Thu, Jan 24, 2013 at 8:29 PM, Karen Sandler wrote: >> In the spirit of the below email from last week, I'm extremely pleased >> to >> announce that the Foundation is hiring Andrea to work as our new >> sysadmin >> contractor. We've been without someone in this position since Christer >> stepped down last year, and Andrea has really been sensational as a >> volunteer and done a great deal of the work in the meantime. >> >> I'm confident that Andrea will continue to do a great job for GNOME! And >> we've got a lot of work to do. >> >> Thanks to the rest of the sysadmin team, the GNOME board and those of >> you >> who emailed me suggesting that we do this very thing. >> >> karen >> >> On Wed, January 16, 2013 3:58 am, Dodji Seketeli wrote: >>> Andrea Veri a Ă©crit: >>> >>>> I've finally managed to migrate all the services to a new machine. You >>>> should be able to apply/renew your membership and request changes to >>>> your >>>> accounts again. >>> >>> \o/. This was fast! >>> >>>> Thanks for your patience >>> >>> No. Thank *you* for the awesome work and extreme dedication. >> >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> foundation-list mailing list >> foundation-list@gnome.org >> https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/foundation-list > _______________________________________________ > foundation-list mailing list > foundation-list@gnome.org > https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/foundation-list > From sri@ramkrishna.me Fri Jan 25 06:12:52 2013 Return-Path: X-Original-To: foundation-list@gnome.org Delivered-To: foundation-list@gnome.org Received: from localhost (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4367D7502B5 for ; Fri, 25 Jan 2013 06:12:52 +0000 (UTC) X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at gnome.org X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -2.599 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.599 tagged_above=-999 required=2 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_LOW=-0.7] autolearn=unavailable Received: from menubar.gnome.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (menubar.gnome.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id MlOiEBBc+BAp for ; Fri, 25 Jan 2013 06:12:36 +0000 (UTC) Received: from mail-vb0-f43.google.com (mail-vb0-f43.google.com [209.85.212.43]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 08AD47501D2 for ; Fri, 25 Jan 2013 06:12:35 +0000 (UTC) Received: by mail-vb0-f43.google.com with SMTP id fr13so13192vbb.30 for ; Thu, 24 Jan 2013 22:12:34 -0800 (PST) X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=google.com; s=20120113; h=x-received:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:from:date:message-id :subject:to:cc:content-type:x-gm-message-state; bh=1SuExIfUfvoYMyPlmYHrm010PUMknvjhTdPrnZRjTzs=; b=VuUtgMwbt+ybnRuwMcZnQT3VngQ3SCgh8kbagEkm8ZBy99cKKhDxm0WLQTbUr+1Uwd macgyEakp4baDPuu9m6J3zNrFAaNfdbbZvzSyTPl3YIFAaGhATsaolN3DQmSqmJb3qVy vC4X9GfCYf//Mn1hfZORQvbLy+Bd7pJg8AOqTTQMsO2FD/bo9nGQuGRhlm9b2yddwdDp PARMO1lFVX/b+BDo5qARCLA5+sREyuk2heRgKarY030vALYwpE/4MMOjjblWryJ6yxDZ +rLduer74gzPdKKudPqysKqSaWz5hDQbRDPNbXC/fu7XKEU8fQejkGneLNLKZo7I4Wac 0z7g== X-Received: by 10.220.150.210 with SMTP id z18mr4854804vcv.2.1359094354070; Thu, 24 Jan 2013 22:12:34 -0800 (PST) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.58.132.206 with HTTP; Thu, 24 Jan 2013 22:12:13 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: <1b127b36b91f64adfd73f2f7c8568da6.squirrel@secure.motives.com> References: <0e332dcb5f48559eab0b4d49934dfd90.squirrel@secure.motives.com> <1b127b36b91f64adfd73f2f7c8568da6.squirrel@secure.motives.com> From: Sriram Ramkrishna Date: Thu, 24 Jan 2013 22:12:13 -0800 Message-ID: Subject: Re: Andrea Veri - GNOME's new part-time sysadmin hire! To: Karen Sandler Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=f46d0438942730cb1504d416d0d4 X-Gm-Message-State: ALoCoQlVyZPiSUoGroPRddj5/ja5N2jBa+BO/H/rG9EHwX1pazLFL0j/3OEs4nWnGhnd568ZbUPl Cc: Luis Villa , Foundation List X-BeenThere: foundation-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: Discussion relating to the GNOME Foundation List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 25 Jan 2013 06:12:52 -0000 --f46d0438942730cb1504d416d0d4 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Without Andrea, we would have had a hard time with a lot of the GSOC and Women's outreach programs. For instance the web projects we had in cleaning up the web infrastructure wouldn't have happened without Andrea who has spent a lot of his free time working on this stuff. sri On Thu, Jan 24, 2013 at 9:16 PM, Karen Sandler wrote: > On Fri, January 25, 2013 12:08 am, Luis Villa wrote: > > Terrific news! > > > > And thanks also to all the supporters of the Foundation over the year > > who have made this sort of hire possible - this investment in > > infrastructure and support is extremely important to GNOME's long-term > > health. > > Great point, Luis! I should note that this is made possible by both our > individual Friends of GNOME sponsors and our corporate supporters. There'= s > tons of work to be done, which I hope will help us in the coming years! > > karen > > > > > On Thu, Jan 24, 2013 at 8:29 PM, Karen Sandler wrote: > >> In the spirit of the below email from last week, I'm extremely pleased > >> to > >> announce that the Foundation is hiring Andrea to work as our new > >> sysadmin > >> contractor. We've been without someone in this position since Christer > >> stepped down last year, and Andrea has really been sensational as a > >> volunteer and done a great deal of the work in the meantime. > >> > >> I'm confident that Andrea will continue to do a great job for GNOME! A= nd > >> we've got a lot of work to do. > >> > >> Thanks to the rest of the sysadmin team, the GNOME board and those of > >> you > >> who emailed me suggesting that we do this very thing. > >> > >> karen > >> > >> On Wed, January 16, 2013 3:58 am, Dodji Seketeli wrote: > >>> Andrea Veri a =C3=A9crit: > >>> > >>>> I've finally managed to migrate all the services to a new machine. Y= ou > >>>> should be able to apply/renew your membership and request changes to > >>>> your > >>>> accounts again. > >>> > >>> \o/. This was fast! > >>> > >>>> Thanks for your patience > >>> > >>> No. Thank *you* for the awesome work and extreme dedication. > >> > >> > >> > >> _______________________________________________ > >> foundation-list mailing list > >> foundation-list@gnome.org > >> https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/foundation-list > > _______________________________________________ > > foundation-list mailing list > > foundation-list@gnome.org > > https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/foundation-list > > > > > _______________________________________________ > foundation-list mailing list > foundation-list@gnome.org > https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/foundation-list > --f46d0438942730cb1504d416d0d4 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Without Andrea, we would have had a hard time with a = lot of the GSOC and Women's outreach programs.=A0 For instance the web = projects we had in cleaning up the web infrastructure wouldn't have hap= pened without Andrea who has spent a lot of his free time working on this s= tuff.

sri


On Thu, Jan 24, 2013 at 9:16 PM, Karen Sandler = <karen@gnome.org> wrote:
On Fri, January 25, 2013 1= 2:08 am, Luis Villa wrote:
> Terrific news!
>
> And thanks also to all the supporters of the Foundation over the year<= br> > who have made this sort of hire possible - this investment in
> infrastructure and support is extremely important to GNOME's long-= term
> health.

Great point, Luis! I should note that this is made possible by both o= ur
individual Friends of GNOME sponsors and our corporate supporters. There= 9;s
tons of work to be done, which I hope will help us in the coming years!

karen

>
> On Thu, Jan 24, 2013 at 8:29 PM, Karen Sandler <karen@gnome.org> wrote:
>> In the spirit of the below email from last week, I'm extremely= pleased
>> to
>> announce that the Foundation is hiring Andrea to work as our new >> sysadmin
>> contractor. We've been without someone in this position since = Christer
>> stepped down last year, and Andrea has really been sensational as = a
>> volunteer and done a great deal of the work in the meantime.
>>
>> I'm confident that Andrea will continue to do a great job for = GNOME! And
>> we've got a lot of work to do.
>>
>> Thanks to the rest of the sysadmin team, the GNOME board and those= of
>> you
>> who emailed me suggesting that we do this very thing.
>>
>> karen
>>
>> On Wed, January 16, 2013 3:58 am, Dodji Seketeli wrote:
>>> Andrea Veri <av@gnome.org> a =C3=A9crit:
>>>
>>>> I've finally managed to migrate all the services to a = new machine. You
>>>> should be able to apply/renew your membership and request = changes to
>>>> your
>>>> accounts again.
>>>
>>> \o/. =A0This was fast!
>>>
>>>> Thanks for your patience
>>>
>>> No. =A0Thank *you* for the awesome work and extreme dedication= .
>>
>>
>>
>> _______________________________________________
>> foundation-list mailing list
>> foundation-list@gnome= .org
>> https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/foundation-list=
> _______________________________________________
> foundation-list mailing list
> foundation-list@gnome.org=
> https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/foundation-list=
>


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--f46d0438942730cb1504d416d0d4-- From andrea.veri@gmail.com Fri Jan 25 09:43:25 2013 Return-Path: X-Original-To: foundation-list@gnome.org Delivered-To: foundation-list@gnome.org Received: from localhost (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 87B4D7501BA; Fri, 25 Jan 2013 09:43:25 +0000 (UTC) X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at gnome.org X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -2.599 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.599 tagged_above=-999 required=2 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, FREEMAIL_FROM=0.001, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_LOW=-0.7, SPF_PASS=-0.001] autolearn=ham Received: from menubar.gnome.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (menubar.gnome.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id ZLf-ARJCMTyu; Fri, 25 Jan 2013 09:43:20 +0000 (UTC) Received: from mail-ob0-f170.google.com (mail-ob0-f170.google.com [209.85.214.170]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7D95F75005B; Fri, 25 Jan 2013 09:43:19 +0000 (UTC) Received: by mail-ob0-f170.google.com with SMTP id wp18so155016obc.1 for ; Fri, 25 Jan 2013 01:43:18 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:x-received:sender:in-reply-to:references:date :x-google-sender-auth:message-id:subject:from:to:cc:content-type; bh=1LGJwQOcp6mnc6kmDDlEFIAadf+S0Egpp0HbNL92cwk=; b=QgvZdZT+VWDiZtLUOX+CnpEaQhmvjz1yGy0I5vW/87RXHzwQUp/pvFZ8Rt7uv6hxEd XsCqGVcVtew2M6wAERZxrTk2e9ATtLyOrqlyfdLdSE2DNBw6Kux1BCUnRsDutZZ1Cy54 2mX8vtqFlBXsSjg1zJd+hkGVAxkqs2PrGXTNO/VVsVN798t5FGP9FVXv2CsNRQMYl0YT lGKZx0Qgi3dW2UNEzv0ZT/LaQcMn4Uy3vw8ZdfDLrpTG3kiV+b547O9QIn5M5zogsqaP P3OyY5kdWdJVcIC84ynsc7yrAEh7V3+0mL4PjeGPOcxw5a1pi5bLW/ZBSrGl+jb365x1 QDxg== MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Received: by 10.182.130.99 with SMTP id od3mr3952501obb.61.1359106998312; Fri, 25 Jan 2013 01:43:18 -0800 (PST) Sender: andrea.veri@gmail.com Received: by 10.76.108.2 with HTTP; Fri, 25 Jan 2013 01:43:18 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: <0e332dcb5f48559eab0b4d49934dfd90.squirrel@secure.motives.com> References: <0e332dcb5f48559eab0b4d49934dfd90.squirrel@secure.motives.com> Date: Fri, 25 Jan 2013 10:43:18 +0100 X-Google-Sender-Auth: i_GHlhblRMi_VzEuOWv7sLsldi4 Message-ID: Subject: Re: Andrea Veri - GNOME's new part-time sysadmin hire! From: Andrea Veri To: Karen Sandler Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=14dae93b6134d89d3904d419c1a6 Cc: Foundation List X-BeenThere: foundation-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: Discussion relating to the GNOME Foundation List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 25 Jan 2013 09:43:25 -0000 --14dae93b6134d89d3904d419c1a6 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable It's an honor for me to serve the GNOME Foundation and the greatest DE ever. We have many many things to do and I'll do my best to have every single bit sorted out in the greatest way. I would like to thank all the contributors and donors that made this possible, I'll never be so grateful to all of you. Catch me on #sysadmin for anything you might need. Have an awesome day, Andrea 2013/1/25 Karen Sandler > In the spirit of the below email from last week, I'm extremely pleased to > announce that the Foundation is hiring Andrea to work as our new sysadmin > contractor. We've been without someone in this position since Christer > stepped down last year, and Andrea has really been sensational as a > volunteer and done a great deal of the work in the meantime. > > I'm confident that Andrea will continue to do a great job for GNOME! And > we've got a lot of work to do. > > Thanks to the rest of the sysadmin team, the GNOME board and those of you > who emailed me suggesting that we do this very thing. > > karen > > On Wed, January 16, 2013 3:58 am, Dodji Seketeli wrote: > > Andrea Veri a =C3=83=C2=A9crit: > > > >> I've finally managed to migrate all the services to a new machine. You > >> should be able to apply/renew your membership and request changes to > >> your > >> accounts again. > > > > \o/. This was fast! > > > >> Thanks for your patience > > > > No. Thank *you* for the awesome work and extreme dedication. > > > > _______________________________________________ > foundation-list mailing list > foundation-list@gnome.org > https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/foundation-list > --=20 Cheers, Andrea Debian Developer, Fedora / EPEL packager, GNOME Sysadmin, GNOME Foundation Membership & Elections Committee Chairman Homepage: http://www.gnome.org/~av --14dae93b6134d89d3904d419c1a6 Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
It's an honor for me to serve the GNOME Foundation and= the greatest DE ever. We have many many things to do and I'll do my be= st to have every single bit sorted out in the greatest way.

I would like to thank all the contributors and donors that= made this possible, I'll never be so grateful to all of you.

Catch me on #sysadmin for anything you might ne= ed.

Have an awesome day,

Andrea


2013/1/25 Karen Sandler <karen@gnome.org>
In the spirit of the below email from last w= eek, I'm extremely pleased to
announce that the Foundation is hiring Andrea to work as our new sysadmin contractor. We've been without someone in this position since Christer<= br> stepped down last year, and Andrea has really been sensational as a
volunteer and done a great deal of the work in the meantime.

I'm confident that Andrea will continue to do a great job for GNOME! An= d
we've got a lot of work to do.

Thanks to the rest of the sysadmin team, the GNOME board and those of you who emailed me suggesting that we do this very thing.

karen

On Wed, January 16, 2013 3:58 am, Dodji Seketeli wrote:
> Andrea Veri <av@gnome.org> a= =C3=83=C2=A9crit:
>
>> I've finally managed to migrate all the services to a new mach= ine. You
>> should be able to apply/renew your membership and request changes = to
>> your
>> accounts again.
>
> \o/. =C2=A0This was fast!
>
>> Thanks for your patience
>
> No. =C2=A0Thank *you* for the awesome work and extreme dedication.



_______________________________________________
foundation-list mailing list
foundation-list@gnome.org<= br> https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/foundation-list



--
Cheers,
<= br>Andrea

Debian Developer,
Fedora / EPEL packager,
GNOME Sysa= dmin,
GNOME Foundation Membership & Elections Committee Chairman

Homepage: http:/= /www.gnome.org/~av
--14dae93b6134d89d3904d419c1a6-- From olav@vitters.nl Fri Jan 25 10:24:46 2013 Return-Path: X-Original-To: foundation-list@gnome.org Delivered-To: foundation-list@gnome.org Received: from localhost (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7B40C75005B; Fri, 25 Jan 2013 10:24:46 +0000 (UTC) X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at gnome.org X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -1.9 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.9 tagged_above=-999 required=2 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE=-0.0001] autolearn=ham Received: from menubar.gnome.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (menubar.gnome.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 0o1CvhBV3vuN; Fri, 25 Jan 2013 10:24:33 +0000 (UTC) Received: from fep16.mx.upcmail.net (fep16.mx.upcmail.net [62.179.121.36]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 44B117501BA; Fri, 25 Jan 2013 10:24:31 +0000 (UTC) Received: from edge03.upcmail.net ([192.168.13.238]) by viefep16-int.chello.at (InterMail vM.8.01.05.05 201-2260-151-110-20120111) with ESMTP id <20130125102429.CCDX2075.viefep16-int.chello.at@edge03.upcmail.net>; Fri, 25 Jan 2013 11:24:29 +0100 Received: from bkor.dhs.org ([62.195.84.29]) by edge03.upcmail.net with edge id sAQV1k01A0dyCrA03AQVl7; Fri, 25 Jan 2013 11:24:29 +0100 X-SourceIP: 62.195.84.29 Received: by bkor.dhs.org (Postfix, from userid 501) id 48450500381; Fri, 25 Jan 2013 11:24:29 +0100 (CET) Date: Fri, 25 Jan 2013 11:24:29 +0100 From: Olav Vitters To: Karen Sandler Subject: Re: Andrea Veri - GNOME's new part-time sysadmin hire! Message-ID: <20130125102429.GB2413@bkor.dhs.org> Mail-Followup-To: Karen Sandler , Foundation List References: <0e332dcb5f48559eab0b4d49934dfd90.squirrel@secure.motives.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <0e332dcb5f48559eab0b4d49934dfd90.squirrel@secure.motives.com> User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.21 (2010-09-15) Cc: Foundation List X-BeenThere: foundation-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: Discussion relating to the GNOME Foundation List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 25 Jan 2013 10:24:46 -0000 On Thu, Jan 24, 2013 at 11:29:10PM -0500, Karen Sandler wrote: > In the spirit of the below email from last week, I'm extremely pleased to > announce that the Foundation is hiring Andrea to work as our new sysadmin > contractor. We've been without someone in this position since Christer > stepped down last year, and Andrea has really been sensational as a > volunteer and done a great deal of the work in the meantime. Yay! Too bad he won't be at FOSDEM! :-( -- Regards, Olav From tobiasmue@gnome.org Fri Jan 25 12:41:10 2013 Return-Path: X-Original-To: foundation-list@gnome.org Delivered-To: foundation-list@gnome.org Received: from localhost (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A2B51750261; Fri, 25 Jan 2013 12:41:10 +0000 (UTC) X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at gnome.org X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -1.121 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.121 tagged_above=-999 required=2 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, SPF_NEUTRAL=0.779] autolearn=no Received: from menubar.gnome.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (menubar.gnome.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 1mU7J2bHmaEZ; Fri, 25 Jan 2013 12:40:58 +0000 (UTC) Received: from mail.cryptobitch.de (cryptobitch.de [88.198.7.68]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8332E7501BA; Fri, 25 Jan 2013 12:40:58 +0000 (UTC) Received: from [192.168.0.107] (port-27835.pppoe.wtnet.de [46.59.163.71]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-CAMELLIA256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by mail.cryptobitch.de (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 94E6E60BB0F; Fri, 25 Jan 2013 13:40:56 +0100 (CET) Message-ID: <51027D58.5020600@gnome.org> Date: Fri, 25 Jan 2013 13:40:56 +0100 From: Tobias Mueller User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux x86_64; rv:17.0) Gecko/17.0 Thunderbird/17.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Luis Villa Subject: Re: Andrea Veri - GNOME's new part-time sysadmin hire! References: <0e332dcb5f48559eab0b4d49934dfd90.squirrel@secure.motives.com> In-Reply-To: X-Enigmail-Version: 1.4.6 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="------------enigC98DB919FA97B0A25ECC759C" Cc: Foundation List X-BeenThere: foundation-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: Discussion relating to the GNOME Foundation List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 25 Jan 2013 12:41:10 -0000 This is an OpenPGP/MIME signed message (RFC 2440 and 3156) --------------enigC98DB919FA97B0A25ECC759C Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hola! On 25.01.2013 06:08, Luis Villa wrote: > Terrific news! >=20 > And thanks also to all the supporters of the Foundation Two points I absolutely agree with. Also thanks to Andrea who had the patience to work out the contract with the Board. 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To: Andrea Veri Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Cc: Foundation List X-BeenThere: foundation-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: Discussion relating to the GNOME Foundation List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 25 Jan 2013 14:23:24 -0000 On Fri, Jan 25, 2013 at 4:43 AM, Andrea Veri wrote: > It's an honor for me to serve the GNOME Foundation and the greatest DE ever. > We have many many things to do and I'll do my best to have every single bit > sorted out in the greatest way. > > I would like to thank all the contributors and donors that made this > possible, I'll never be so grateful to all of you. > > Catch me on #sysadmin for anything you might need. > > Have an awesome day, > > Andrea Congratulations to Andrea and the the GNOME Foundation for making such a suitable arrangement for critical services. It is not too early to start making plans for how to celebrate July 26trh. :-) http://sysadminday.com/ cjl From andrea.veri@gmail.com Mon Jan 28 19:34:11 2013 Return-Path: X-Original-To: foundation-list@gnome.org Delivered-To: foundation-list@gnome.org Received: from localhost (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1DB76750611; Mon, 28 Jan 2013 19:34:11 +0000 (UTC) X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at gnome.org X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -2.599 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.599 tagged_above=-999 required=2 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, FREEMAIL_FROM=0.001, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_LOW=-0.7, SPF_PASS=-0.001] autolearn=ham Received: from menubar.gnome.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (menubar.gnome.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id aYNMc0hl2lJr; Mon, 28 Jan 2013 19:33:58 +0000 (UTC) Received: from mail-ob0-f175.google.com (mail-ob0-f175.google.com [209.85.214.175]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DACAB7505EE; Mon, 28 Jan 2013 19:33:56 +0000 (UTC) Received: by mail-ob0-f175.google.com with SMTP id uz6so3122502obc.20 for ; Mon, 28 Jan 2013 11:33:55 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:x-received:sender:date:x-google-sender-auth:message-id :subject:from:to:cc:content-type; bh=AWxiSzGBvDoDMUcpkvnBUfZhOyjkIBsNRVDK37mCmsA=; b=YC5Sqm4+LqPqp+eruBowmF0eCHEZoM+VfnFZSMHEor0VcrLlLOHUMQKGHZ7pDnRd1+ 46C2bjDbRu+i7Sw/sdQHDawjrJhCHCGzqNIZDobRoFasEV/yiiPDq/gcjvM0+MknckYH 5NCxjQqqANNZW1z6bx/+ae2NwZzO10LHZOzKHICk56iJUzZ2+5ryPteu+eGaZHl63bjN k9+CEyW/4DOj6zgr2iWCw/KUfqqwbHP5KXpS1CNCqLksqSHhx1/24DyCI/mftqHo5HJ+ uttfaBNY5Mb60w19UbmlHychNiQ+yE6uC6+IsT/WAWx6uwY/BKtUgI8VFlH18gNiBKPM +OIA== MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Received: by 10.60.26.234 with SMTP id o10mr12418576oeg.116.1359401635329; Mon, 28 Jan 2013 11:33:55 -0800 (PST) Sender: andrea.veri@gmail.com Received: by 10.76.112.74 with HTTP; Mon, 28 Jan 2013 11:33:55 -0800 (PST) Date: Mon, 28 Jan 2013 20:33:55 +0100 X-Google-Sender-Auth: 4C4qUShndRis8WSR2QqDzOl9adA Message-ID: Subject: Mail OUTAGE: 29 Jan, 21.00 - 23.00 GMT+1 From: Andrea Veri To: Foundation List Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=e89a8f83a4d994b76c04d45e5ba0 Cc: devel-announce-list@gnome.org X-BeenThere: foundation-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: Discussion relating to the GNOME Foundation List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 28 Jan 2013 19:34:11 -0000 --e89a8f83a4d994b76c04d45e5ba0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Hi, I'm currently in the middle of migrating our mail server to a different host and I'll take care of updating the relevant details (MX Records etc.) tomorrow. The affected services: - incoming / outgoing mails to all @gnome.org addresses - mailing lists - mail.gnome.org I'll follow up to this e-mail as usual once all the services will reach the new host successfully. -- Cheers, Andrea Debian Developer, Fedora / EPEL packager, GNOME Sysadmin, GNOME Foundation Membership & Elections Committee Chairman Homepage: http://www.gnome.org/~av --e89a8f83a4d994b76c04d45e5ba0 Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Hi,

I'm currently in the middle of migrating our mail server to a different= host and I'll take care of updating the relevant details (MX Records e= tc.) tomorrow.

The af= fected services:

= - incoming / outgoing mails to all @gnome.org=C2=A0addresses
- mailing lists<= /div>
I'= ll follow up to this e-mail as usual once all the services will reach the n= ew host successfully.


--
Ch= eers,

Andrea

Debian Developer,
Fedora / EPEL packager,
GNOME Sys= admin,
GNOME Foundation Membership & Elections Committee Chairman
Homepage: http:= //www.gnome.org/~av
--e89a8f83a4d994b76c04d45e5ba0-- From olav@vitters.nl Mon Jan 28 19:49:58 2013 Return-Path: X-Original-To: foundation-list@gnome.org Delivered-To: foundation-list@gnome.org Received: from localhost (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 111FB75060B for ; Mon, 28 Jan 2013 19:49:58 +0000 (UTC) X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at gnome.org X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -1.9 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.9 tagged_above=-999 required=2 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE=-0.0001] autolearn=ham Received: from menubar.gnome.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (menubar.gnome.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id Sc6jkazBtctt for ; Mon, 28 Jan 2013 19:49:45 +0000 (UTC) Received: from fep13.mx.upcmail.net (fep13.mx.upcmail.net [62.179.121.33]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9EDAF7505EE for ; Mon, 28 Jan 2013 19:49:43 +0000 (UTC) Received: from edge01.upcmail.net ([192.168.13.236]) by viefep13-int.chello.at (InterMail vM.8.01.05.05 201-2260-151-110-20120111) with ESMTP id <20130128194941.PSGH18473.viefep13-int.chello.at@edge01.upcmail.net> for ; Mon, 28 Jan 2013 20:49:41 +0100 Received: from bkor.dhs.org ([62.195.84.29]) by edge01.upcmail.net with edge id tXpf1k01W0dyCrA01XpfSJ; Mon, 28 Jan 2013 20:49:41 +0100 X-SourceIP: 62.195.84.29 Received: by bkor.dhs.org (Postfix, from userid 501) id 85246500381; Mon, 28 Jan 2013 20:49:39 +0100 (CET) Date: Mon, 28 Jan 2013 20:49:39 +0100 From: Olav Vitters To: foundation-list@gnome.org Subject: Re: Mail OUTAGE: 29 Jan, 21.00 - 23.00 GMT+1 Message-ID: <20130128194939.GA2432@bkor.dhs.org> Mail-Followup-To: foundation-list@gnome.org References: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.21 (2010-09-15) X-BeenThere: foundation-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: Discussion relating to the GNOME Foundation List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 28 Jan 2013 19:49:58 -0000 On Mon, Jan 28, 2013 at 08:33:55PM +0100, Andrea Veri wrote: > I'm currently in the middle of migrating our mail server to a different > host and I'll take care of updating the relevant details (MX Records etc.) > tomorrow. Cool! Info for the rest: the current machine handling mail is really old and support contract has ended quite some time ago. We had a new VM for moving this over, but never made time to actually do so. Is good that we move stuff over before the hardware dies ;) -- Regards, Olav From andrea.veri@gmail.com Wed Jan 30 15:10:58 2013 Return-Path: X-Original-To: foundation-list@gnome.org Delivered-To: foundation-list@gnome.org Received: from localhost (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by restaurant.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 79FF6769E7; Wed, 30 Jan 2013 15:10:58 +0000 (UTC) X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at gnome.org X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -0.698 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-0.698 tagged_above=-999 required=2 tests=[DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, FREEMAIL_FROM=0.001, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_LOW=-0.7] autolearn=ham Received: from restaurant.gnome.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (restaurant.gnome.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id mv+WFiZgJw-L; Wed, 30 Jan 2013 15:10:54 +0000 (UTC) Received: from mail-oa0-f42.google.com (mail-oa0-f42.google.com [209.85.219.42]) by restaurant.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D8BAD76A0E; Wed, 30 Jan 2013 15:10:53 +0000 (UTC) Received: by mail-oa0-f42.google.com with SMTP id i18so1482583oag.1 for ; Wed, 30 Jan 2013 07:10:52 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:x-received:sender:in-reply-to:references:date :x-google-sender-auth:message-id:subject:from:to:cc:content-type; bh=owgE+E9oy6j7GtpNHh60Wy7br+MFx1R8617BXeMddyM=; b=MdhiGnuQ0tLiAebI4BwgbakzY6r7VYxxWRo7l7A9ZJjP9rFb18ZmR+E7kZlxtOabnv danT9ywOQvSWrDLanu5uwW1SRBAfg1ShP43LnGbfGKBQYaC+F6xLk9JIxdi3cqADTg9z l6EsirplU6rKiYf3tPO19NySdpPMfliqALcckhDNHZB1hC2TLAqjHJBCqmpSKVzOEXoa j+wlEEzlZa5chWFW0dDbG6TBX1zimfr7LWB9V9vVjKyGKeShnVeCMhFhF9KHokObiNtX J68QcGor7tk9Vq2ilY8Dy22zFZLK1Rcf2lRdCiQCXAC3pcdrIU/eP0awCZmPNWICdlNH TJIg== MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Received: by 10.182.12.39 with SMTP id v7mr3821508obb.47.1359558652305; Wed, 30 Jan 2013 07:10:52 -0800 (PST) Sender: andrea.veri@gmail.com Received: by 10.76.112.74 with HTTP; Wed, 30 Jan 2013 07:10:52 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: References: Date: Wed, 30 Jan 2013 16:10:52 +0100 X-Google-Sender-Auth: 0eb276TBErh8JtEFwzLBxRetJqA Message-ID: Subject: Re: Mail OUTAGE: 29 Jan, 21.00 - 23.00 GMT+1 From: Andrea Veri To: Foundation List Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=f46d04446c0185a24804d482ea1a Cc: devel-announce-list@gnome.org X-BeenThere: foundation-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 Precedence: list List-Id: Discussion relating to the GNOME Foundation List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 30 Jan 2013 15:10:58 -0000 --f46d04446c0185a24804d482ea1a Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 All the services should be up and running again. The migration took a bit more than we expected cause of a failing script. Thanks for your patience and understanding, Andrea 2013/1/28 Andrea Veri > Hi, > > I'm currently in the middle of migrating our mail server to a different > host and I'll take care of updating the relevant details (MX Records etc.) > tomorrow. > > The affected services: > > - incoming / outgoing mails to all @gnome.org addresses > - mailing lists > - mail.gnome.org > > I'll follow up to this e-mail as usual once all the services will reach > the new host successfully. > > > -- > Cheers, > > Andrea > > Debian Developer, > Fedora / EPEL packager, > GNOME Sysadmin, > GNOME Foundation Membership & Elections Committee Chairman > > Homepage: http://www.gnome.org/~av > -- Cheers, Andrea Debian Developer, Fedora / EPEL packager, GNOME Sysadmin, GNOME Foundation Membership & Elections Committee Chairman Homepage: http://www.gnome.org/~av --f46d04446c0185a24804d482ea1a Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
All the services should be up and running again. The migra= tion took a bit more than we expected cause of a failing script.

Thanks for your patience and understanding,

Andrea


<= div class=3D"gmail_quote">2013/1/28 Andrea Veri <av@gnome.org>
Hi,

I'm currently in the middle of migrating our mail server to a different= host and I'll take care of updating the relevant details (MX Records e= tc.) tomorrow.

The af= fected services:

= - incoming / outgoing mails to all @gnome.org=C2=A0addresses
- mailing lists<= /div>
I'= ll follow up to this e-mail as usual once all the services will reach the n= ew host successfully.


--
Cheers,

Andrea

Debian Developer,
Fedora / EPEL packager,
GNOME Sys= admin,
GNOME Foundation Membership & Elections Committee Chairman
Homepage: http:= //www.gnome.org/~av



--
Cheers,
<= br>Andrea

Debian Developer,
Fedora / EPEL packager,
GNOME Sysa= dmin,
GNOME Foundation Membership & Elections Committee Chairman

Homepage: http:/= /www.gnome.org/~av
--f46d04446c0185a24804d482ea1a-- From andrea.veri@gmail.com Thu Jan 31 13:56:19 2013 Return-Path: X-Original-To: foundation-list@gnome.org Delivered-To: foundation-list@gnome.org Received: from localhost (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by restaurant.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9573F76A02 for ; Thu, 31 Jan 2013 13:56:19 +0000 (UTC) X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at gnome.org X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -2.598 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.598 tagged_above=-999 required=2 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, FREEMAIL_FROM=0.001, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_LOW=-0.7] autolearn=ham Received: from restaurant.gnome.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (restaurant.gnome.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 2D4Cm+7BOuOl for ; Thu, 31 Jan 2013 13:56:04 +0000 (UTC) Received: from mail-ob0-f176.google.com (mail-ob0-f176.google.com [209.85.214.176]) by restaurant.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id AF5FB769EF for ; Thu, 31 Jan 2013 13:56:04 +0000 (UTC) Received: by mail-ob0-f176.google.com with SMTP id v19so2835577obq.7 for ; Thu, 31 Jan 2013 05:56:02 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:x-received:sender:date:x-google-sender-auth:message-id :subject:from:to:content-type; bh=bLkfs/UJZK7eGogmpY6fDiA+1ZJD4/Xogy6WTgzhoRg=; b=QIg5WNlGrBl8+l2Y+Tgo7v3T5pKqwmeNYsAo4kG3OOLga5dKukiJr3ouVCrgWzwUjc yCsjueSbgojwPNfZ70infuIMQsjOTOdkGH6dHztscG+fIIfY0jDaxBbNXuYQQkvHgMWL J13mAKs6C0gikCNtTRu/fCE0bEZSeoskuvKkYG071Ine0Xb1rchrw9vlbvBMcs0hj1sB 0zNnXN8GdqFreePY3p1ohuIaEp2eH8mLFit70JvLBA+l95seqIO7iXms/Au/NzSOY0jy 4KEb4i0SAtZiiW/fcvubU2F5MoF/gIFcjqv9yMT4MEIIq8fb1hpGAbu71rjnKnBNmexD iPoQ== MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Received: by 10.60.31.142 with SMTP id a14mr6704514oei.118.1359640562752; Thu, 31 Jan 2013 05:56:02 -0800 (PST) Sender: andrea.veri@gmail.com Received: by 10.76.112.74 with HTTP; Thu, 31 Jan 2013 05:56:02 -0800 (PST) Date: Thu, 31 Jan 2013 14:56:02 +0100 X-Google-Sender-Auth: WW-WJLPxORn-_v15c97QVsL8Whw Message-ID: Subject: Some news from GIMPNET (was "A few observations about GIMPNET") From: Andrea Veri To: Foundation List Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=e89a8fb1edaac3dcdf04d495fcfb X-BeenThere: foundation-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 Precedence: list List-Id: Discussion relating to the GNOME Foundation List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 31 Jan 2013 13:56:19 -0000 --e89a8fb1edaac3dcdf04d495fcfb Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Hi, I'm sure someone noticed the 'Services' bot hanging on some of the #gnome-* channels since a few days already, and I'm glad to announce that the GIMPNET team has given me the possibility to setup a network-operated bot that will act as a nickserv, chanserv with the only difference that users/channels registrations won't affect the whole network but single channels instead. Ideally you won't need to register your nick if you don't need any channel's capability at all, registering a new user should be necessary just in the case you will need access to the OPerator status of a specific channel. Each official GNOME channel should have one or a more registered admins, so please get in touch with me (nickname: 'av') for registering your username and enabling the relevant accesses on the channel. (also the Services bot did join a few channels at this time, if you want the bot to join additional channels, just drop me a note) As a side note, please safely drop all the bots you were using, they aren't needed anymore. Enjoy. -- Cheers, Andrea Debian Developer, Fedora / EPEL packager, GNOME Sysadmin, GNOME Foundation Membership & Elections Committee Chairman Homepage: http://www.gnome.org/~av --e89a8fb1edaac3dcdf04d495fcfb Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Hi,

I'= m sure someone noticed the 'Services' bot hanging on some of the #g= nome-* channels since a few days already, and I'm glad to announce that= the GIMPNET team has given me the possibility to setup a network-operated = bot that will act as a nickserv, chanserv with the only difference that use= rs/channels registrations won't affect the whole network but single cha= nnels instead.

Ideally you won't need to register your= nick if you don't need any channel's capability at all, registerin= g a new user should be necessary just in the case you will need access to t= he OPerator status of a specific channel.

Each official GNOME channel should have one= or a more registered admins, so please get in touch with me (nickname: = 9;av') for registering your username and enabling the relevant accesses= on the channel. (also the Services bot did join a few channels at this tim= e, if you want the bot to join additional channels, just drop me a note)

As a side note, please safely drop all the = bots you were using, they aren't needed anymore.

Enjoy.

--
Cheers,

Andrea

Debian Developer,
Fedora / EPEL packager,
GNOME Sysadmin,
GNOM= E Foundation Membership & Elections Committee Chairman

Homepage:= http://www.gnome.or= g/~av
--e89a8fb1edaac3dcdf04d495fcfb-- From ak-47@gmx.net Thu Jan 31 14:27:25 2013 Return-Path: X-Original-To: foundation-list@gnome.org Delivered-To: foundation-list@gnome.org Received: from localhost (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by restaurant.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DDF8B76A0A for ; Thu, 31 Jan 2013 14:27:25 +0000 (UTC) X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at gnome.org X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -1.756 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.756 tagged_above=-999 required=2 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, FREEMAIL_ENVFROM_END_DIGIT=0.25, FREEMAIL_FROM=0.001, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE=-0.0001, RP_MATCHES_RCVD=-0.107] autolearn=no Received: from restaurant.gnome.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (restaurant.gnome.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id ZPGPcSwXE5f7 for ; Thu, 31 Jan 2013 14:27:14 +0000 (UTC) X-Greylist: delayed 457 seconds by postgrey-1.34 at restaurant.gnome.org; Thu, 31 Jan 2013 14:25:48 UTC Received: from mout.gmx.net (mout.gmx.net [212.227.15.18]) by restaurant.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2713B76A2D for ; Thu, 31 Jan 2013 14:25:47 +0000 (UTC) Received: from mailout-de.gmx.net ([10.1.76.30]) by mrigmx.server.lan (mrigmx001) with ESMTP (Nemesis) id 0LdJxn-1UjI2r1nST-00iXQZ for ; Thu, 31 Jan 2013 15:13:04 +0100 Received: (qmail invoked by alias); 31 Jan 2013 14:13:04 -0000 Received: from ip-84-42-203-5.net.upcbroadband.cz (EHLO [192.168.1.15]) [84.42.203.5] by mail.gmx.net (mp030) with SMTP; 31 Jan 2013 15:13:04 +0100 X-Authenticated: #726810 X-Provags-ID: V01U2FsdGVkX1+iXqZtjwiiKssXmWwKjdufioRdE4w9fvipg2s+zn 8SQrGnF5YV3KE5 Message-ID: <1359641583.31050.23.camel@embrace.foo> Subject: Re: Some news from GIMPNET (was "A few observations about GIMPNET") From: Andre Klapper To: Andrea Veri Date: Thu, 31 Jan 2013 15:13:03 +0100 In-Reply-To: References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" X-Mailer: Evolution 3.2.3 (3.2.3-3.fc16) Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Y-GMX-Trusted: 0 Cc: Foundation List X-BeenThere: foundation-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 Precedence: list List-Id: Discussion relating to the GNOME Foundation List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 31 Jan 2013 14:27:26 -0000 On Thu, 2013-01-31 at 14:56 +0100, Andrea Veri wrote: > As a side note, please safely drop all the bots you were using, they > aren't needed anymore. Errm, I guess such a statement first requires a complete analysis of the functions that all these bots provide, and implementing this in "services"? Has this been done? Confused, andre -- Andre Klapper | ak-47@gmx.net http://blogs.gnome.org/aklapper/ From andrea.veri@gmail.com Thu Jan 31 14:27:27 2013 Return-Path: X-Original-To: foundation-list@gnome.org Delivered-To: foundation-list@gnome.org Received: from localhost (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by restaurant.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1BCFA76AD9 for ; Thu, 31 Jan 2013 14:27:27 +0000 (UTC) X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at gnome.org X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -2.598 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.598 tagged_above=-999 required=2 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, FREEMAIL_FROM=0.001, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_LOW=-0.7] autolearn=ham Received: from restaurant.gnome.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (restaurant.gnome.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 8p6ZqBLN7aVB for ; Thu, 31 Jan 2013 14:27:15 +0000 (UTC) Received: from mail-oa0-f52.google.com (mail-oa0-f52.google.com [209.85.219.52]) by restaurant.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DDD6276A30 for ; Thu, 31 Jan 2013 14:26:40 +0000 (UTC) Received: by mail-oa0-f52.google.com with SMTP id k14so3058610oag.11 for ; Thu, 31 Jan 2013 06:26:39 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:x-received:sender:in-reply-to:references:date :x-google-sender-auth:message-id:subject:from:to:cc:content-type; bh=6dbWbLlF/BkwLvX5TitlAE+eWzzieP9mXYnWwtQEwaA=; b=TptjN6eEX1u6tYmVC6rqrfG6f5lk7Iu0ZS+K7kNUV22OnDAnbeOronfkUwmcKS/rKG zrCkZK5njtImDDpIPE8H648m2Y1tbetrLHlB+53hXCE7Yvm0+6yVPev5j/6Eb/pkfLcu HO7pXUaym7mMvV2IxdljwJkCdhrsXiYH8BFheOiCSekFR4HaD0DdWKXGL7ge8LbIQ5mV jNsEr/JxXA5Wsu3ITcdyNExMyt37JUh4FOMMSiCyWfaTcGzWXHd5sjQ/3iUaTJM009J7 2r+rnoM7d+FAnAbFNT8h+uuwTHIX3q4qnw4TrcfqFVMIzWR/t14ErcrtAPGtFHKZq4kP FoYw== MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Received: by 10.182.64.74 with SMTP id m10mr2044440obs.61.1359642399075; Thu, 31 Jan 2013 06:26:39 -0800 (PST) Sender: andrea.veri@gmail.com Received: by 10.76.112.74 with HTTP; Thu, 31 Jan 2013 06:26:38 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: <1359641583.31050.23.camel@embrace.foo> References: <1359641583.31050.23.camel@embrace.foo> Date: Thu, 31 Jan 2013 15:26:38 +0100 X-Google-Sender-Auth: t6drB4-geKKgNMAPuXj081a3FMM Message-ID: Subject: Re: Some news from GIMPNET (was "A few observations about GIMPNET") From: Andrea Veri To: Andre Klapper Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=14dae93b5e3637edc004d4966ad7 Cc: Foundation List X-BeenThere: foundation-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 Precedence: list List-Id: Discussion relating to the GNOME Foundation List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 31 Jan 2013 14:27:27 -0000 --14dae93b5e3637edc004d4966ad7 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Pretty much (all?) the bots were used for auto-opping or updating channel's topics AFAIK, thus my statement to safely remove all the bots with these specific functions. I'll work on deploying a KGB bot anytime soon as well for git commits notifications on IRC. cheers, 2013/1/31 Andre Klapper > On Thu, 2013-01-31 at 14:56 +0100, Andrea Veri wrote: > > As a side note, please safely drop all the bots you were using, they > > aren't needed anymore. > > Errm, I guess such a statement first requires a complete analysis of the > functions that all these bots provide, and implementing this in > "services"? Has this been done? > > Confused, > andre > -- > Andre Klapper | ak-47@gmx.net > http://blogs.gnome.org/aklapper/ > > -- Cheers, Andrea Debian Developer, Fedora / EPEL packager, GNOME Sysadmin, GNOME Foundation Membership & Elections Committee Chairman Homepage: http://www.gnome.org/~av --14dae93b5e3637edc004d4966ad7 Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Pretty much (all?) the bots were used for auto-= opping or updating channel's topics AFAIK, thus my statement to safely = remove all the bots with these specific functions. I'll work on deployi= ng a KGB bot anytime soon as well for git commits notifications on IRC.

cheers,


2013/1/31 Andre Klapper <ak-47@gmx.net>
On Thu, 2013-01-31 at 14:5= 6 +0100, Andrea Veri wrote:
> As a side note, please safely drop all the bots you were using, they > aren't needed anymore.

Errm, I guess such a statement first requires a complete analysis of = the
functions that all these bots provide, and implementing this in
"services"? Has this been done?

Confused,
andre
--
Andre Klapper =C2=A0| =C2=A0ak-47@gmx.net<= /a>
http://blogs= .gnome.org/aklapper/




-- Cheers,

Andrea

Debian Developer,
Fedora / EPEL packager,=
GNOME Sysadmin,
GNOME Foundation Membership & Elections Committe= e Chairman

Homepage: http:/= /www.gnome.org/~av
--14dae93b5e3637edc004d4966ad7-- From alexandre.franke@gmail.com Thu Jan 31 14:42:26 2013 Return-Path: X-Original-To: foundation-list@gnome.org Delivered-To: foundation-list@gnome.org Received: from localhost (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by restaurant.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id AEB9E76A0A for ; Thu, 31 Jan 2013 14:42:26 +0000 (UTC) X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at gnome.org X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -2.699 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.699 tagged_above=-999 required=2 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, FREEMAIL_FROM=0.001, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_LOW=-0.7] autolearn=ham Received: from restaurant.gnome.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (restaurant.gnome.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id D9TAdh9i+oGk for ; Thu, 31 Jan 2013 14:42:11 +0000 (UTC) Received: from mail-lb0-f176.google.com (mail-lb0-f176.google.com [209.85.217.176]) by restaurant.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8B870769EF for ; Thu, 31 Jan 2013 14:42:10 +0000 (UTC) Received: by mail-lb0-f176.google.com with SMTP id s4so3392896lbc.21 for ; Thu, 31 Jan 2013 06:42:09 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:x-received:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id :subject:from:to:content-type; bh=HO3+pVyY2J2BykoFrE76jLxvAp4PkxAR7vV/sFh+YqQ=; b=RJ+9YcvQyDME+pLOJ5eYCsNJWDGlygJWMkk2wQ/2Xdq6UIX1//gaT4c3eXfQ3h0acq ejeLA738cyWYPrA1xC2xt2HpH++L1W75hNHI1ufu2EcomG4gyCuFR7VvRSQ/Iqa4OTK4 BJZUo8hal8WmkNa0vKxzY/Y9dGFazJ6ma7X3yF0WpX9JsSvzqphI/SGKzDGJOZ5z1FT8 RNImdye9XxnmsC/QFZMvs64oel26SVGwkLTXPKcHlVp7PrMwShUgc9krcpjLYsrczoxv QSb/4eoNpFdSAFS3+Gp5biLxdsYy92Lhwz3YZVlNyZqDG9lXz7ydFMNAg2YCHW/wLVdG UrAQ== MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Received: by 10.112.44.229 with SMTP id h5mr3531644lbm.12.1359643329089; Thu, 31 Jan 2013 06:42:09 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.112.84.36 with HTTP; Thu, 31 Jan 2013 06:42:08 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: References: <1359641583.31050.23.camel@embrace.foo> Date: Thu, 31 Jan 2013 15:42:08 +0100 Message-ID: Subject: Re: Some news from GIMPNET (was "A few observations about GIMPNET") From: Alexandre Franke To: Foundation List Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 X-BeenThere: foundation-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 Precedence: list List-Id: Discussion relating to the GNOME Foundation List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 31 Jan 2013 14:42:26 -0000 On Thu, Jan 31, 2013 at 3:26 PM, Andrea Veri wrote: > Pretty much (all?) the bots were used for auto-opping or updating channel's > topics AFAIK, thus my statement to safely remove all the bots with these > specific functions. I'll work on deploying a KGB bot anytime soon as well > for git commits notifications on IRC. Some of us also use Supybot for bugzilla related services (bug change announcements, getting a description of a bug by giving its bug number). -- Alexandre Franke From jdiggs@igalia.com Thu Jan 31 15:18:23 2013 Return-Path: X-Original-To: foundation-list@gnome.org Delivered-To: foundation-list@gnome.org Received: from localhost (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by restaurant.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 163DD76A0A for ; Thu, 31 Jan 2013 15:18:23 +0000 (UTC) X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at gnome.org X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -2.6 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.6 tagged_above=-999 required=2 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_LOW=-0.7] autolearn=ham Received: from restaurant.gnome.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (restaurant.gnome.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id Z8XGjpTWDcCi for ; Thu, 31 Jan 2013 15:18:04 +0000 (UTC) X-Greylist: delayed 755 seconds by postgrey-1.34 at restaurant.gnome.org; Thu, 31 Jan 2013 15:17:54 UTC Received: from smtp4.mundo-r.com (smtp4.mundo-r.com [212.51.32.151]) by restaurant.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 520F5769EF for ; Thu, 31 Jan 2013 15:17:53 +0000 (UTC) X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: AnMCAPaHClFbdWObgWdsb2JhbABFgzmCSEe4VRYOAQEWJieCHgEBBSNVEQsYAgIFFgsCAgkDAgECAUUTBgIBARaHdwSvQJJigSOMQIIWgRMDiGSNLpNh X-IPAS-Result: AnMCAPaHClFbdWObgWdsb2JhbABFgzmCSEe4VRYOAQEWJieCHgEBBSNVEQsYAgIFFgsCAgkDAgECAUUTBgIBARaHdwSvQJJigSOMQIIWgRMDiGSNLpNh Received: from fanzine.igalia.com ([91.117.99.155]) by smtp4.mundo-r.com with ESMTP; 31 Jan 2013 16:04:57 +0100 Received: from c-98-217-239-60.hsd1.nh.comcast.net ([98.217.239.60] helo=[192.168.35.105]) by fanzine.igalia.com with esmtpsa (Cipher TLS1.0:DHE_RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA1:32) (Exim) id 1U0vhB-0004uS-1B for ; Thu, 31 Jan 2013 16:04:57 +0100 Message-ID: <510A880D.4090402@igalia.com> Date: Thu, 31 Jan 2013 10:04:45 -0500 From: Joanmarie Diggs User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux x86_64; rv:17.0) Gecko/20130110 Thunderbird/17.0.2 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: foundation-list@gnome.org Subject: Re: Some news from GIMPNET (was "A few observations about GIMPNET") References: <1359641583.31050.23.camel@embrace.foo> In-Reply-To: X-Enigmail-Version: 1.5 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-BeenThere: foundation-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 Precedence: list List-Id: Discussion relating to the GNOME Foundation List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 31 Jan 2013 15:18:23 -0000 On 01/31/2013 09:42 AM, Alexandre Franke wrote: > On Thu, Jan 31, 2013 at 3:26 PM, Andrea Veri wrote: >> Pretty much (all?) the bots were used for auto-opping or updating channel's >> topics AFAIK, thus my statement to safely remove all the bots with these >> specific functions. I'll work on deploying a KGB bot anytime soon as well >> for git commits notifications on IRC. > > Some of us also use Supybot for bugzilla related services (bug change > announcements, getting a description of a bug by giving its bug > number). Yup, the Accessibility Team does that. We also have the Supybot meetbot plugin we find extremely helpful. --joanie