[g-a-devel]Oversized posts and 'reply to all'

[Bill Haneman <bill haneman sun com>]

On Thu, 2003-01-23 at 16:16, gnome-accessibility-devel-admin gnome org
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>     List:    Gnome-accessibility-devel gnome org
>     From:    rd baum ro
>     Subject: Fwd: Re: [g-a-devel]gnopernicus & gui design ...
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Hi folks:

Please do not quote entire messages when they include patches such as
Michael's; trim them first unless you are really including interspersed
comments inline.

I have bounced a couple of messages of this type today, and one came
back forwarded even longer!

I attach the most important parts of that message here, from Paul:

	Hi Michael

>
>
>>
>> ----------  Forwarded Message  ----------
>>
>> Subject: [g-a-devel]gnopernicus & gui design ...
>> Date: 22 Jan 2003 22:29:20 +0000
>> From: Michael Meeks <michael ximian com>
>> To: Draghi Puterity <mp baum de>
>> Cc: accessibility mailing list <gnome-accessibility-devel gnome org>
>>
>> Hi guys,
>>
>>     It's demo time again :-) overall very pleased that with fairly 
>> minimial
>> effort and out of the box builds I'm getting nicely working
>> functionality again it seems.
>>
>>     Gnopernicus too is looking nice functionally; however the GUI 
>> appears
>> to be illegibly crunched up on my screen. I did an investigation of
>> this, and discovered the ultimate cause is the use of GtkFixed. While
I
>> can see GtkFixed is very tempting for windows programmers - please
>> _never_ use it in Gtk+ programming. It's really not designed to be
used,
>> particularly for what you're using it for. Instead you need to spend
>> some time re-working it for the containment system.
>>
>>     Otherwise - when your partially sighted person scales their fonts
-
>> they suddenly won't be able to see anything ;-) rather a mis-feature.
>>
>>     The attached patch re-works the magnifier settings - I just hope 
>> there
>> arn't many more of these problems lurking; it also does:
>>
>> * remove fixed widget width/heights - these are a similarly
>>  aweful idea associated with GtkFixed, it should ~never be
>>  necessary to assign a widget's width/height.
>>
>>
>> * Uses GtkDialog - it's better to use the standard dialog
>>  widget than a custom version.
>>
>> * bins several instances of:
>> if (path) g_free (path): redundant.
>>  g_free has a NULL check builtin, so it should just be g_free
>>
Paul: Thanks for remarks.

>
>>
>> * fixes some 'level' accounting bugs in some cases
>>  (delete_events etc.).
>>
>>     Beyond that the 'level' concept I see there concerns me greatly, 
>> what
>> is this for ? it looks like what you want is modality - which I
believe
>> gives you extra WM support beyond transience. What is going on there,
>> and is this used elsewhere ?
>>
Paul:Variable level is used to same as a modality between windows.

>
>>
>>     Anyhow, overall very nice - patch attached,
>>
>>     Regards,
>>
>>         Michael.
>>
>> -- 
>> mmeeks gnu org  <><, Pseudo Engineer, itinerant idiot
>>
>> -------------------------------------------------------
>>
Paul: Thanks for patch. Please apply it.

Best Regards
Paul


regards,

Bill

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Bill Haneman <bill haneman sun com>