Re: FW: D-BUS based magnification API

[Willie Walker <William Walker Sun COM>]

Ian:

Getting us down to very specific requirements is very very helpful,
especially when those requirements come from real end users.  I captured
your e-mail at http://live.gnome.org/GAP/Magnification, and intend for
us to keep adding to it (and refactoring it) as we continue this
discussion.

Thanks!

Will

On Fri, 2007-08-31 at 22:04 +0100, Ian Pascoe wrote:
> Hi Peter
> 
> I would expect the magnifier's base features to be able to support:
> 
> - a magnification window, either full or partial screen
> - the ability to have the mouse pointer either fixed centrally and the
> screen move instead of the pointer, or the mouse pointer when hitting the
> magnification window edge to move the viewed surface
> - basic colour enhancements which for me would be high contrast inverse
> video ie white on black
> - a magnification level of up to at least 6x or 8x
> 
> and if technically available on the fly zoom level changes.
> 
> Looking at an MS equivilant, to provide the same standard as ZoomText did in
> it's version 7 software.
> 
> The other enhancements you describe would fit perfectly well into the
> "modern" package.
> 
> For screen readers, the base equivilant of Orca 2.18.x
> 
> But as you'll appreciate this is very much a personal opinion as these are
> the two areas I use.
> 
> Ian
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Peter Korn Sun COM [mailto:Peter Korn Sun COM]
> Sent: 30 August 2007 20:43
> To: ianpascoe btinternet com
> Cc: gnome-accessibility-list gnome org
> Subject: Re: D-BUS based magnification API
> 
> 
> Hi Ian,
> 
> Thank you for joining this conversation!
> 
> I have a question about your C, below.  If the magnifier can only offer,
> let's say, basic magnification everywhere; but on 5 year old and younger
> hardware it can also do really nice font smoothing and provide an
> overlay circle around the mouse and additional highlighting of the caret
> and...; if that is the case, would you prefer that the magnifier simply
> not offer those other features because we can't guarantee having them
> everywhere?  Or would you be comfortable with this additional set of
> features being available when running on more modern systems?
> 
> 
> Regards,
> 
> Peter Korn
> Accessibility Architect,
> Sun Microsystems, Inc.
> 
> 
> > Gentlemen
> >
> > Being one of Will's referred to end users, I am following this thread with
> > interest.  In general work I fall into the category of screen reader and
> > magnifier.
> >
> > Ignoring the various details on internal communication and window
> managers,
> > the following are, for me, the over-riding necessities:
> >
> > A.  It works - I want to have a continual happy experience with no
> glitches
> > etc whilst utilising the various AT components.
> >
> > B.  Ease of use - any migration to any other "internal" system should not
> > affect the experience of a user that's grown up and accustom to the
> various
> > AT components and the way they work.
> >
> > C.  Transportability - when a user moves between different PCs  of
> different
> > specs and age, the base features should work on any box.
> >
> > IMO it is this last point that's the lynch pin.  If an end user is
> confident
> > that no matter what the spec or age of a PC is, they can always get a
> > minimum level of support from the AT components, that's great.  Otherwise,
> > it's going to be a walk away and find something else that does work.
> >
> > And as for a user GUI, it's so much better to have everything in one place
> > than have to work with each individual component seperately - by all means
> > give the component it's own GUI for those hardly ever used settings etc,
> but
> > have one place where the common settings can be easily accessed.
> >
> > HTH
> >
> > Ian
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: gnome-accessibility-list-bounces gnome org
> > [mailto:gnome-accessibility-list-bounces gnome org]On Behalf Of Peter
> > Korn
> > Sent: 30 August 2007 17:53
> > To: Willie Walker
> > Cc: gnome-accessibility-list gnome org;
> > gnome-accessibility-devel gnome org
> > Subject: Re: D-BUS based magnification API
> >
> >
> > Hi Willie, Carlos, gang,
> >
> >
> >> ...
> >>
> >>
> >>>> Are you coming to GNOME Boston 2007?  Magnification is one of the
> >>>> critical things we want to talk about for the accessibility summit.
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>> Ow... it would be a dream :-), but I don't have passport and don't
> >>> have money, so no :-(, but I really like to know what become
> >>> discussed.
> >>>
> >>>
> >> Bummer.  This discussion, however, will be of great use for the summit
> >> and we should continue having it.
> >>
> >>
> >
> > Perhaps we could arrange to have this conversation at the GNOME summit
> > at a time when both Carlos and I (and other interested parties) can call
> > into it?
> >
> >
> > Regards,
> >
> > Peter Korn
> > Accessibility Architect,
> > Sun Microsystems, Inc.
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