From gnome-hackers-bounces@gnome.org Sun Jul 3 17:18:07 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: gnome-hackers-readonly@gnome.org Delivered-To: gnome-hackers-readonly@gnome.org Received: from localhost (unknown [127.0.0.1]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 07FF93B0D40; Sun, 3 Jul 2005 17:18:07 -0400 (EDT) Received: from menubar.gnome.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (menubar.gnome.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 05027-04; Sun, 3 Jul 2005 17:18:05 -0400 (EDT) Received: from menubar.gnome.org (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1F3023B0D3E; Sun, 3 Jul 2005 17:18:05 -0400 (EDT) X-Original-To: gnome-hackers@gnome.org Delivered-To: gnome-hackers@gnome.org Received: from localhost (unknown [127.0.0.1]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id EFF343B069E for ; Sat, 2 Jul 2005 21:19:11 -0400 (EDT) Received: from menubar.gnome.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (menubar.gnome.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 30165-10 for ; Sat, 2 Jul 2005 21:19:08 -0400 (EDT) Received: from smtp106.mail.sc5.yahoo.com (smtp106.mail.sc5.yahoo.com [66.163.169.226]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with SMTP id D3AF83B066B for ; Sat, 2 Jul 2005 21:19:07 -0400 (EDT) Received: (qmail 77997 invoked from network); 3 Jul 2005 01:18:48 -0000 DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; h=Received:Subject:From:To:In-Reply-To:References:Content-Type:Date:Message-Id:Mime-Version:X-Mailer; b=35eyjCctBZPTHx0hpsk6k2wKm3VgB0wWFB+EvQCiJdoZFhkPynK0NIeSXpgZ2EgbIm7l8P0bsiLx1SGXziuiR2eGrUGX/UKz+M3xCjg5fAR6i8uCBC3+SSTMm8s/Pnv/oYhMrhLQFFuenVz/gSJno8smsfuZqDROlsmptXYvKNY= ; Received: from unknown (HELO ?192.168.1.101?) (bigbandit2004@24.182.57.192 with plain) by smtp106.mail.sc5.yahoo.com with SMTP; 3 Jul 2005 01:18:47 -0000 From: Joe Jackson To: gnome-hackers@gnome.org In-Reply-To: <20050703000528.4BAC16CC2B6@window.gnome.org> References: <20050703000528.4BAC16CC2B6@window.gnome.org> Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="=-VuVjTKzpyVD+W41VjKGR" Date: Sat, 02 Jul 2005 18:18:48 -0700 Message-Id: <1120353528.22051.0.camel@localhost.localdomain> Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Evolution 2.2.1.1 X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at gnome.org X-Mailman-Approved-At: Sun, 03 Jul 2005 17:18:04 -0400 X-BeenThere: gnome-hackers@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Sender: gnome-hackers-bounces@gnome.org Errors-To: gnome-hackers-bounces@gnome.org X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at gnome.org X-Mailman-Approved-At: Fri, 08 Jul 2005 08:17:56 -0400 Cc: Subject: Re: gnome-icon-theme 2.11.4 X-BeenThere: gnome-hackers-readonly@gnome.org Reply-To: gnome-hackers@gnome.org List-Id: Read-only copy of gnome-hackers List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 03 Jul 2005 21:18:07 -0000 --=-VuVjTKzpyVD+W41VjKGR Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="=-m1asz/X5qT9FiwcKuNxx" --=-m1asz/X5qT9FiwcKuNxx Content-Type: text/plain Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit The locations for the Icons do not exist. R, Joe Jackson --=-m1asz/X5qT9FiwcKuNxx Content-Type: text/html; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit The locations for the Icons do not exist.
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Joe Jackson --=-m1asz/X5qT9FiwcKuNxx-- --=-VuVjTKzpyVD+W41VjKGR Content-Disposition: inline Content-Description: Forwarded message - gnome-icon-theme 2.11.4 Content-Type: message/rfc822 X-Apparently-To: bigbandit2004@yahoo.com via 206.190.38.24; Sat, 02 Jul 2005 17:05:34 -0700 X-Originating-IP: [209.132.176.177] Return-Path: Authentication-Results: mta176.mail.mud.yahoo.com from=widget.gnome.org; domainkeys=neutral (no sig) Received: from 209.132.176.177 (EHLO menubar.gnome.org) (209.132.176.177) by mta176.mail.mud.yahoo.com with SMTP; Sat, 02 Jul 2005 17:05:34 -0700 Received: from localhost (unknown [127.0.0.1]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BFCC83B07C9; Sat, 2 Jul 2005 20:05:33 -0400 (EDT) Received: from menubar.gnome.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (menubar.gnome.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 26839-09; Sat, 2 Jul 2005 20:05:33 -0400 (EDT) Received: from menubar.gnome.org (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 118523B085E; Sat, 2 Jul 2005 20:05:32 -0400 (EDT) X-Original-To: ftp-release-list@gnome.org Delivered-To: ftp-release-list@gnome.org Received: from localhost (unknown [127.0.0.1]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 04C6E3B069C for ; Sat, 2 Jul 2005 20:05:30 -0400 (EDT) Received: from menubar.gnome.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (menubar.gnome.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 26829-06 for ; Sat, 2 Jul 2005 20:05:28 -0400 (EDT) Received: from window.gnome.org (window.gnome.org [209.132.176.176]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 89D0E3B077A for ; Sat, 2 Jul 2005 20:05:28 -0400 (EDT) Received: by window.gnome.org (Postfix, from userid 5047) id 4BAC16CC2B6; Sat, 2 Jul 2005 20:05:28 -0400 (EDT) From: Rodney Dawes To: FTP Releases Message-Id: <20050703000528.4BAC16CC2B6@window.gnome.org> Date: Sat, 2 Jul 2005 20:05:28 -0400 (EDT) X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at gnome.org Subject: gnome-icon-theme 2.11.4 X-BeenThere: ftp-release-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: gnome-hackers@gnome.org List-Id: "FTP upload notifications for packagers, the release team and insane users" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Sender: ftp-release-list-bounces@gnome.org Errors-To: ftp-release-list-bounces@gnome.org X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at gnome.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Module: gnome-icon-theme Version: 2.11.4 Uploaded by: Rodney Dawes http://ftp.gnome.org/pub/GNOME/sources/gnome-icon-theme/2.11/gnome-icon-theme-2.11.4.tar.gz md5sum: fa96d144d47334d58f40778cc25f9fed size: 3.3M http://ftp.gnome.org/pub/GNOME/sources/gnome-icon-theme/2.11/gnome-icon-theme-2.11.4.tar.bz2 md5sum: a7c5bf804b8d064142cb51f3609cf786 size: 3.0M -- An RSS 2.0 feed of ftp-release-list is available at: http://ftp.gnome.org/pub/GNOME/LATEST.xml _______________________________________________ ftp-release-list mailing list ftp-release-list@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/ftp-release-list --=-VuVjTKzpyVD+W41VjKGR Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline _______________________________________________ gnome-hackers mailing list gnome-hackers@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/gnome-hackers --=-VuVjTKzpyVD+W41VjKGR-- From gnome-hackers-bounces@gnome.org Sun Jul 10 02:19:04 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: gnome-hackers-readonly@gnome.org Delivered-To: gnome-hackers-readonly@gnome.org Received: from localhost (unknown [127.0.0.1]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E04973B08D1; Sun, 10 Jul 2005 02:19:03 -0400 (EDT) Received: from menubar.gnome.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (menubar.gnome.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 17208-04; Sun, 10 Jul 2005 02:19:02 -0400 (EDT) Received: from menubar.gnome.org (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 204883B0A87; Sun, 10 Jul 2005 02:19:02 -0400 (EDT) X-Original-To: gnome-hackers@gnome.org Delivered-To: gnome-hackers@gnome.org Received: from localhost (unknown [127.0.0.1]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0E76D3B08D1 for ; Sun, 10 Jul 2005 02:18:57 -0400 (EDT) Received: from menubar.gnome.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (menubar.gnome.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 17208-03 for ; Sun, 10 Jul 2005 02:18:55 -0400 (EDT) Received: from black.golder.org (black.golder.org [81.6.249.35]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 78C733B076C for ; Sun, 10 Jul 2005 02:18:54 -0400 (EDT) Received: from localhost (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by black.golder.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B86AD57F8; Sun, 10 Jul 2005 07:18:52 +0100 (BST) Received: from black.golder.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (black.golder.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 09245-09; Sun, 10 Jul 2005 07:18:45 +0100 (BST) Received: from chai (p116-raspknMT1.C.csloxinfo.net [203.172.58.116]) by black.golder.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id EEF4B4145; Sun, 10 Jul 2005 07:18:42 +0100 (BST) From: Ross Golder To: Joe Jackson In-Reply-To: <1120353528.22051.0.camel@localhost.localdomain> References: <20050703000528.4BAC16CC2B6@window.gnome.org> <1120353528.22051.0.camel@localhost.localdomain> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Date: Sun, 10 Jul 2005 13:18:41 +0700 Message-Id: <1120976322.8903.4.camel@localhost> Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Evolution 2.2.1.1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at golder.org X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at gnome.org X-BeenThere: gnome-hackers@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Sender: gnome-hackers-bounces@gnome.org Errors-To: gnome-hackers-bounces@gnome.org X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at gnome.org Cc: gnome-hackers@gnome.org Subject: Re: gnome-icon-theme 2.11.4 X-BeenThere: gnome-hackers-readonly@gnome.org Reply-To: gnome-hackers@gnome.org List-Id: Read-only copy of gnome-hackers List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 10 Jul 2005 06:19:04 -0000 On ส., 2005-07-02 at 18:18 -0700, Joe Jackson wrote: > The locations for the Icons do not exist. > R, > Joe Jackson They do now. There was a problem with ftp.gnome.org syncing it's contents from master.gnome.org around the time you e-mailled. Resolved now. -- Ross > email message attachment, "Forwarded message - gnome-icon-theme > 2.11.4" > On ส., 2005-07-02 at 18:18 -0700, Joe Jackson wrote: > > Module: gnome-icon-theme > > Version: 2.11.4 > > Uploaded by: Rodney Dawes > > > > http://ftp.gnome.org/pub/GNOME/sources/gnome-icon-theme/2.11/gnome-icon-theme-2.11.4.tar.gz > > md5sum: fa96d144d47334d58f40778cc25f9fed > > size: 3.3M > > > > http://ftp.gnome.org/pub/GNOME/sources/gnome-icon-theme/2.11/gnome-icon-theme-2.11.4.tar.bz2 > > md5sum: a7c5bf804b8d064142cb51f3609cf786 > > size: 3.0M > > > _______________________________________________ > gnome-hackers mailing list > gnome-hackers@gnome.org > http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/gnome-hackers _______________________________________________ gnome-hackers mailing list gnome-hackers@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/gnome-hackers From gnome-hackers-bounces@gnome.org Fri Jul 15 10:05:24 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: gnome-hackers-readonly@gnome.org Delivered-To: gnome-hackers-readonly@gnome.org Received: from localhost (unknown [127.0.0.1]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D63373B15B8; Fri, 15 Jul 2005 10:05:24 -0400 (EDT) Received: from menubar.gnome.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (menubar.gnome.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 30591-02; Fri, 15 Jul 2005 10:05:22 -0400 (EDT) Received: from menubar.gnome.org (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C03293B21AE; Fri, 15 Jul 2005 10:05:12 -0400 (EDT) X-Original-To: gnome-hackers@gnome.org Delivered-To: gnome-hackers@gnome.org Received: from localhost (unknown [127.0.0.1]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1A6AA3B2101 for ; Fri, 15 Jul 2005 10:05:08 -0400 (EDT) Received: from menubar.gnome.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (menubar.gnome.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 30442-08 for ; Fri, 15 Jul 2005 10:05:04 -0400 (EDT) Received: from brmea-mail-3.sun.com (brmea-mail-3.Sun.COM [192.18.98.34]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 534E13B21A9 for ; Fri, 15 Jul 2005 10:05:02 -0400 (EDT) Received: from phys-gadget-1 ([129.156.85.171]) by brmea-mail-3.sun.com (8.12.10/8.12.9) with ESMTP id j6FE4xva027194 for ; Fri, 15 Jul 2005 08:05:01 -0600 (MDT) Received: from conversion-daemon.gadget-mail1.uk.sun.com by gadget-mail1.uk.sun.com (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.24 (built Dec 19 2003)) id <0IJO00C019SBA2@gadget-mail1.uk.sun.com> (original mail from Calum.Benson@Sun.COM) for gnome-hackers@gnome.org; Fri, 15 Jul 2005 15:05:00 +0100 (BST) Received: from cdelab89.cde.ireland.sun.com (cdelab89.Ireland.Sun.COM [129.156.226.189]) by gadget-mail1.uk.sun.com (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.24 (built Dec 19 2003)) with ESMTP id <0IJO007MX9SBPC@gadget-mail1.uk.sun.com>; Fri, 15 Jul 2005 15:05:00 +0100 (BST) Date: Fri, 15 Jul 2005 15:04:48 +0100 From: Calum Benson In-reply-to: <1121403906.5803.21.camel@localhost> To: gnome-hackers@gnome.org Message-id: <1121436239.16437.77.camel@cdelab89.cde.ireland.sun.com> Organization: Sun Microsytems Ireland Ltd. MIME-version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Ximian Evolution 1.4.6.338 Content-type: text/plain Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT References: <1121403906.5803.21.camel@localhost> X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at gnome.org X-BeenThere: gnome-hackers@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Sender: gnome-hackers-bounces@gnome.org Errors-To: gnome-hackers-bounces@gnome.org X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at gnome.org Cc: "devel-announce-list@gnome.org" , GNOME Desktop Subject: Re: Heads-up: overwrite confirmation for GtkFileChooser X-BeenThere: gnome-hackers-readonly@gnome.org Reply-To: gnome-hackers@gnome.org List-Id: Read-only copy of gnome-hackers List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 15 Jul 2005 14:05:25 -0000 On Fri, 2005-07-15 at 06:05, Federico Mena Quintero wrote: > > http://primates.ximian.com/~federico/news-2005-07.html#14 Cool, needs a little HIG love though :) - Alerts shouldn't have any titlebar text - Bold text should be in 'newspaper headline' style, so "File '%s' Already Exists" (with no trailing punctuation) would be shorter and more appropriate - "Replace Existing File" (should be book title case) could just be "Replace" - It's not immediately clear to me what "Select Another File" (should also be book title case) does... select another file for what? The more standard "Cancel" would probably be clear enough, IMHO (although that could be mis-interpreted as cancelling the whole Save operation, so a better term would still be useful). (Oh, I see some of this is already covered in the bug report; have added the stuff that isn't.) Cheeri, Calum. -- CALUM BENSON, Usability Engineer Sun Microsystems Ireland mailto:calum.benson@sun.com Java Desktop System Group http://ie.sun.com +353 1 819 9771 Any opinions are personal and not necessarily those of Sun Microsystems _______________________________________________ gnome-hackers mailing list gnome-hackers@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/gnome-hackers From gnome-hackers-bounces@gnome.org Fri Jul 15 10:08:07 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: gnome-hackers-readonly@gnome.org Delivered-To: gnome-hackers-readonly@gnome.org Received: from localhost (unknown [127.0.0.1]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D601A3B15B8; Fri, 15 Jul 2005 10:08:07 -0400 (EDT) Received: from menubar.gnome.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (menubar.gnome.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 30873-02; Fri, 15 Jul 2005 10:08:06 -0400 (EDT) Received: from menubar.gnome.org (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 34BBB3B21B0; Fri, 15 Jul 2005 10:07:47 -0400 (EDT) X-Original-To: gnome-hackers@gnome.org Delivered-To: gnome-hackers@gnome.org Received: from localhost (unknown [127.0.0.1]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7F28F3B21B2; Fri, 15 Jul 2005 10:07:12 -0400 (EDT) Received: from menubar.gnome.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (menubar.gnome.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 30762-01; Fri, 15 Jul 2005 10:07:10 -0400 (EDT) Received: from mx1.redhat.com (mx1.redhat.com [66.187.233.31]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5715F3B15B8; Fri, 15 Jul 2005 10:07:04 -0400 (EDT) Received: from int-mx1.corp.redhat.com (int-mx1.corp.redhat.com [172.16.52.254]) by mx1.redhat.com (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j6FE73ZS031983; Fri, 15 Jul 2005 10:07:03 -0400 Received: from pobox.surrey.redhat.com (pobox.surrey.redhat.com [172.16.10.17]) by int-mx1.corp.redhat.com (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id j6FE73V01399; Fri, 15 Jul 2005 10:07:03 -0400 Received: from bnocera.surrey.redhat.com (bnocera.surrey.redhat.com [172.16.10.53]) by pobox.surrey.redhat.com (8.12.8/8.12.8) with ESMTP id j6FE723N012080; Fri, 15 Jul 2005 15:07:02 +0100 From: Bastien Nocera To: Calum Benson In-Reply-To: <1121436239.16437.77.camel@cdelab89.cde.ireland.sun.com> References: <1121403906.5803.21.camel@localhost> <1121436239.16437.77.camel@cdelab89.cde.ireland.sun.com> Content-Type: text/plain Date: Fri, 15 Jul 2005 15:07:02 +0100 Message-Id: <1121436422.15255.20.camel@bnocera.surrey.redhat.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Evolution 2.0.2 (2.0.2-16) Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at gnome.org X-BeenThere: gnome-hackers@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Sender: gnome-hackers-bounces@gnome.org Errors-To: gnome-hackers-bounces@gnome.org X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at gnome.org Cc: GNOME Desktop , gnome-hackers@gnome.org, "devel-announce-list@gnome.org" Subject: Re: Heads-up: overwrite confirmation for GtkFileChooser X-BeenThere: gnome-hackers-readonly@gnome.org Reply-To: gnome-hackers@gnome.org List-Id: Read-only copy of gnome-hackers List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 15 Jul 2005 14:08:08 -0000 On Fri, 2005-07-15 at 15:04 +0100, Calum Benson wrote: > On Fri, 2005-07-15 at 06:05, Federico Mena Quintero wrote: > > > > > http://primates.ximian.com/~federico/news-2005-07.html#14 > > Cool, needs a little HIG love though :) > > - Alerts shouldn't have any titlebar text > - Bold text should be in 'newspaper headline' style, so "File '%s' > Already Exists" (with no trailing punctuation) would be shorter and more > appropriate > - "Replace Existing File" (should be book title case) could just be > "Replace" > - It's not immediately clear to me what "Select Another File" (should > also be book title case) does... select another file for what? The more > standard "Cancel" would probably be clear enough, IMHO (although that > could be mis-interpreted as cancelling the whole Save operation, so a > better term would still be useful). "Select Another File"? It's not another file we're looking for, but another filename. > (Oh, I see some of this is already covered in the bug report; have added > the stuff that isn't.) > > Cheeri, > Calum. > --- Bastien Nocera Hollywood? It's fucking 14 hours there, 14 hours back and two hours of kissing fucking cheeks. Fuck that. -- Richard Harris _______________________________________________ gnome-hackers mailing list gnome-hackers@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/gnome-hackers From gnome-hackers-bounces@gnome.org Fri Jul 15 10:12:27 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: gnome-hackers-readonly@gnome.org Delivered-To: gnome-hackers-readonly@gnome.org Received: from localhost (unknown [127.0.0.1]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D25323B21F4; Fri, 15 Jul 2005 10:12:27 -0400 (EDT) Received: from menubar.gnome.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (menubar.gnome.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 31567-02; Fri, 15 Jul 2005 10:12:25 -0400 (EDT) Received: from menubar.gnome.org (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B3CE23B21D3; Fri, 15 Jul 2005 10:11:52 -0400 (EDT) X-Original-To: gnome-hackers@gnome.org Delivered-To: gnome-hackers@gnome.org Received: from localhost (unknown [127.0.0.1]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id F3E113B218C for ; Fri, 15 Jul 2005 10:11:44 -0400 (EDT) Received: from menubar.gnome.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (menubar.gnome.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 31470-01 for ; Fri, 15 Jul 2005 10:11:42 -0400 (EDT) Received: from wproxy.gmail.com (wproxy.gmail.com [64.233.184.196]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 049413B21D1 for ; Fri, 15 Jul 2005 10:11:15 -0400 (EDT) Received: by wproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id 68so617032wra for ; Fri, 15 Jul 2005 07:11:14 -0700 (PDT) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:reply-to:to:subject:cc:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; b=mauxwx+ceZ+3bVRgE6LWlLB1deyFTBr+kI6LHMlDqBfW1uHKgQ8lVugxl2RihPgGtloQoU7gMM3O92hn6/0XDrNv3n0jpY5YuuGOw0NrSx3wsV8a9gNVPSqiE5KHfLyJpIMld9P2KPi2zGPELGQC+/XvzkS8Vf/wSZhdUmw3tjc= Received: by 10.54.2.3 with SMTP id 3mr687677wrb; Fri, 15 Jul 2005 07:11:14 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.54.48.50 with HTTP; Fri, 15 Jul 2005 07:11:14 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <2cb10c44050715071157a44cc7@mail.gmail.com> Date: Fri, 15 Jul 2005 10:11:14 -0400 From: Luis Villa To: Calum Benson In-Reply-To: <1121436239.16437.77.camel@cdelab89.cde.ireland.sun.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Disposition: inline References: <1121403906.5803.21.camel@localhost> <1121436239.16437.77.camel@cdelab89.cde.ireland.sun.com> X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at gnome.org X-BeenThere: gnome-hackers@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Sender: gnome-hackers-bounces@gnome.org Errors-To: gnome-hackers-bounces@gnome.org X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at gnome.org Cc: gnome-hackers@gnome.org, GNOME Desktop Subject: Re: Heads-up: overwrite confirmation for GtkFileChooser X-BeenThere: gnome-hackers-readonly@gnome.org Reply-To: gnome-hackers@gnome.org, Luis Villa List-Id: Read-only copy of gnome-hackers List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 15 Jul 2005 14:12:28 -0000 On 7/15/05, Calum Benson wrote: > On Fri, 2005-07-15 at 06:05, Federico Mena Quintero wrote: >=20 > > > > http://primates.ximian.com/~federico/news-2005-07.html#14 >=20 > Cool, needs a little HIG love though :) >=20 > - Alerts shouldn't have any titlebar text Is this, or is this not, an a11y problem? Luis _______________________________________________ gnome-hackers mailing list gnome-hackers@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/gnome-hackers From gnome-hackers-bounces@gnome.org Fri Jul 15 10:51:53 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: gnome-hackers-readonly@gnome.org Delivered-To: gnome-hackers-readonly@gnome.org Received: from localhost (unknown [127.0.0.1]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C53763B21DF; Fri, 15 Jul 2005 10:51:53 -0400 (EDT) Received: from menubar.gnome.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (menubar.gnome.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 03441-02; Fri, 15 Jul 2005 10:51:51 -0400 (EDT) Received: from menubar.gnome.org (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5C2593B21BA; Fri, 15 Jul 2005 10:51:41 -0400 (EDT) X-Original-To: gnome-hackers@gnome.org Delivered-To: gnome-hackers@gnome.org Received: from localhost (unknown [127.0.0.1]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5BAF73B2076 for ; Fri, 15 Jul 2005 10:51:35 -0400 (EDT) Received: from menubar.gnome.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (menubar.gnome.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 03328-05 for ; Fri, 15 Jul 2005 10:51:35 -0400 (EDT) Received: from brmea-mail-3.sun.com (brmea-mail-3.Sun.COM [192.18.98.34]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 963333B2195 for ; Fri, 15 Jul 2005 10:51:33 -0400 (EDT) Received: from phys-gadget-1 ([129.156.85.171]) by brmea-mail-3.sun.com (8.12.10/8.12.9) with ESMTP id j6FEm00m010613 for ; Fri, 15 Jul 2005 08:51:29 -0600 (MDT) Received: from conversion-daemon.gadget-mail1.uk.sun.com by gadget-mail1.uk.sun.com (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.24 (built Dec 19 2003)) id <0IJO00201BQAZE@gadget-mail1.uk.sun.com> (original mail from Calum.Benson@Sun.COM) for gnome-hackers@gnome.org; Fri, 15 Jul 2005 15:50:22 +0100 (BST) Received: from cdelab89.cde.ireland.sun.com (cdelab89.Ireland.Sun.COM [129.156.226.189]) by gadget-mail1.uk.sun.com (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.24 (built Dec 19 2003)) with ESMTP id <0IJO00E77BVYJO@gadget-mail1.uk.sun.com>; Fri, 15 Jul 2005 15:50:22 +0100 (BST) Date: Fri, 15 Jul 2005 15:50:13 +0100 From: Calum Benson In-reply-to: <2cb10c44050715071157a44cc7@mail.gmail.com> To: Luis Villa Message-id: <1121439009.16437.81.camel@cdelab89.cde.ireland.sun.com> Organization: Sun Microsytems Ireland Ltd. MIME-version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Ximian Evolution 1.4.6.338 Content-type: text/plain Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT References: <1121403906.5803.21.camel@localhost> <1121436239.16437.77.camel@cdelab89.cde.ireland.sun.com> <2cb10c44050715071157a44cc7@mail.gmail.com> X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at gnome.org X-BeenThere: gnome-hackers@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Sender: gnome-hackers-bounces@gnome.org Errors-To: gnome-hackers-bounces@gnome.org X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at gnome.org Cc: gnome-hackers@gnome.org, GNOME Desktop Subject: Re: Heads-up: overwrite confirmation for GtkFileChooser X-BeenThere: gnome-hackers-readonly@gnome.org Reply-To: gnome-hackers@gnome.org List-Id: Read-only copy of gnome-hackers List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 15 Jul 2005 14:51:54 -0000 On Fri, 2005-07-15 at 15:11, Luis Villa wrote: > > > - Alerts shouldn't have any titlebar text > > Is this, or is this not, an a11y problem? Open for discussion in bug #165132... I don't think it should be, because gnopernicus (IIRC) reads out the text of alerts as they become focused. (But I'm not sure what the current situation is with alerts when Alt-Tabbing through windows, for example.) Cheeri, Calum. -- CALUM BENSON, Usability Engineer Sun Microsystems Ireland mailto:calum.benson@sun.com Java Desktop System Group http://ie.sun.com +353 1 819 9771 Any opinions are personal and not necessarily those of Sun Microsystems _______________________________________________ gnome-hackers mailing list gnome-hackers@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/gnome-hackers From srittau@jroger.in-berlin.de Fri Jul 15 11:21:03 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: gnome-hackers-readonly@gnome.org Delivered-To: gnome-hackers-readonly@gnome.org Received: from localhost (unknown [127.0.0.1]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 763C23B226C for ; Fri, 15 Jul 2005 11:21:03 -0400 (EDT) Received: from menubar.gnome.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (menubar.gnome.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 06828-02 for ; Fri, 15 Jul 2005 11:21:00 -0400 (EDT) Received: from hirsch.in-berlin.de (hirsch.in-berlin.de [192.109.42.6]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D45FE3B2210 for ; Fri, 15 Jul 2005 11:20:03 -0400 (EDT) X-Envelope-From: srittau@jroger.in-berlin.de X-Envelope-To: Received: from hirsch.in-berlin.de (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by hirsch.in-berlin.de (8.13.3/8.13.3/Debian-8) with ESMTP id j6FEo2c4001154 for ; Fri, 15 Jul 2005 16:50:02 +0200 Received: (from uucp@localhost) by hirsch.in-berlin.de (8.13.3/8.13.3/Submit) with UUCP id j6FEo11t001149 for gnome-hackers-readonly@gnome.org; Fri, 15 Jul 2005 16:50:01 +0200 Received: from srittau by jroger.in-berlin.de with local (Exim 3.36 #1 (Debian)) id 1DtS4I-0002hB-00; Fri, 15 Jul 2005 17:25:38 +0200 Date: Fri, 15 Jul 2005 17:25:38 +0200 To: gnome-hackers-readonly@gnome.org, gnome-hackers@gnome.org Message-ID: <20050715152538.GA10219@jroger.in-berlin.de> Mail-Followup-To: gnome-hackers-readonly@gnome.org, gnome-hackers@gnome.org References: <1121436239.16437.77.camel@cdelab89.cde.ireland.sun.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <1121436239.16437.77.camel@cdelab89.cde.ireland.sun.com> User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.9i From: Sebastian Rittau X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at gnome.org Cc: Subject: Re: Heads-up: overwrite confirmation for GtkFileChooser X-BeenThere: gnome-hackers-readonly@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: gnome-hackers@gnome.org List-Id: Read-only copy of gnome-hackers List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 15 Jul 2005 15:21:03 -0000 On Fri, Jul 15, 2005 at 03:04:48PM +0100, Calum Benson wrote: > On Fri, 2005-07-15 at 06:05, Federico Mena Quintero wrote: > > > > > http://primates.ximian.com/~federico/news-2005-07.html#14 > > Cool, needs a little HIG love though :) One more thing: It seems that the GTK_STOCK_REFRESH stock item is misused to mean "Replace" here. I'm not sure that is a good idea. It's probably better to introduce a new stock item. - Sebastian From gnome-hackers-bounces@gnome.org Fri Jul 15 11:22:50 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: gnome-hackers-readonly@gnome.org Delivered-To: gnome-hackers-readonly@gnome.org Received: from localhost (unknown [127.0.0.1]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id EA4593B2215; Fri, 15 Jul 2005 11:22:49 -0400 (EDT) Received: from menubar.gnome.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (menubar.gnome.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 07135-09; Fri, 15 Jul 2005 11:22:47 -0400 (EDT) Received: from menubar.gnome.org (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id EF27F3B2224; Fri, 15 Jul 2005 11:21:09 -0400 (EDT) X-Original-To: gnome-hackers@gnome.org Delivered-To: gnome-hackers@gnome.org Received: from localhost (unknown [127.0.0.1]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6C80C3B2210 for ; Fri, 15 Jul 2005 11:21:07 -0400 (EDT) Received: from menubar.gnome.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (menubar.gnome.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 06834-01 for ; Fri, 15 Jul 2005 11:21:00 -0400 (EDT) Received: from hirsch.in-berlin.de (hirsch.in-berlin.de [192.109.42.6]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D46AA3B2224 for ; Fri, 15 Jul 2005 11:20:03 -0400 (EDT) X-Envelope-From: srittau@jroger.in-berlin.de X-Envelope-To: Received: from hirsch.in-berlin.de (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by hirsch.in-berlin.de (8.13.3/8.13.3/Debian-8) with ESMTP id j6FEo2LJ001170 for ; Fri, 15 Jul 2005 16:50:02 +0200 Received: (from uucp@localhost) by hirsch.in-berlin.de (8.13.3/8.13.3/Submit) with UUCP id j6FEo2j3001169 for gnome-hackers@gnome.org; Fri, 15 Jul 2005 16:50:02 +0200 Received: from srittau by jroger.in-berlin.de with local (Exim 3.36 #1 (Debian)) id 1DtS4I-0002hB-00; Fri, 15 Jul 2005 17:25:38 +0200 Date: Fri, 15 Jul 2005 17:25:38 +0200 To: gnome-hackers-readonly@gnome.org, gnome-hackers@gnome.org Message-ID: <20050715152538.GA10219@jroger.in-berlin.de> Mail-Followup-To: gnome-hackers-readonly@gnome.org, gnome-hackers@gnome.org References: <1121436239.16437.77.camel@cdelab89.cde.ireland.sun.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <1121436239.16437.77.camel@cdelab89.cde.ireland.sun.com> User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.9i From: Sebastian Rittau X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at gnome.org X-BeenThere: gnome-hackers@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Sender: gnome-hackers-bounces@gnome.org Errors-To: gnome-hackers-bounces@gnome.org X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at gnome.org Cc: Subject: Re: Heads-up: overwrite confirmation for GtkFileChooser X-BeenThere: gnome-hackers-readonly@gnome.org Reply-To: gnome-hackers@gnome.org List-Id: Read-only copy of gnome-hackers List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 15 Jul 2005 15:22:50 -0000 On Fri, Jul 15, 2005 at 03:04:48PM +0100, Calum Benson wrote: > On Fri, 2005-07-15 at 06:05, Federico Mena Quintero wrote: > > > > > http://primates.ximian.com/~federico/news-2005-07.html#14 > > Cool, needs a little HIG love though :) One more thing: It seems that the GTK_STOCK_REFRESH stock item is misused to mean "Replace" here. I'm not sure that is a good idea. It's probably better to introduce a new stock item. - Sebastian _______________________________________________ gnome-hackers mailing list gnome-hackers@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/gnome-hackers From gnome-hackers-bounces@gnome.org Fri Jul 15 11:24:59 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: gnome-hackers-readonly@gnome.org Delivered-To: gnome-hackers-readonly@gnome.org Received: from localhost (unknown [127.0.0.1]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7DA063B2211; Fri, 15 Jul 2005 11:24:59 -0400 (EDT) Received: from menubar.gnome.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (menubar.gnome.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 07751-04; Fri, 15 Jul 2005 11:24:57 -0400 (EDT) Received: from menubar.gnome.org (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id AAD2F3B2213; Fri, 15 Jul 2005 11:24:50 -0400 (EDT) X-Original-To: gnome-hackers@gnome.org Delivered-To: gnome-hackers@gnome.org Received: from localhost (unknown [127.0.0.1]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id F0C363B15D0 for ; Fri, 15 Jul 2005 11:24:45 -0400 (EDT) Received: from menubar.gnome.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (menubar.gnome.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 07690-03 for ; Fri, 15 Jul 2005 11:24:43 -0400 (EDT) Received: from brmea-mail-4.sun.com (brmea-mail-4.Sun.COM [192.18.98.36]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E29603B2215 for ; Fri, 15 Jul 2005 11:24:35 -0400 (EDT) Received: from phys-gadget-1 ([129.156.85.171]) by brmea-mail-4.sun.com (8.12.10/8.12.9) with ESMTP id j6FFOYr7005886 for ; Fri, 15 Jul 2005 09:24:35 -0600 (MDT) Received: from conversion-daemon.gadget-mail1.uk.sun.com by gadget-mail1.uk.sun.com (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.24 (built Dec 19 2003)) id <0IJO00301DETID@gadget-mail1.uk.sun.com> (original mail from Calum.Benson@Sun.COM) for gnome-hackers@gnome.org; Fri, 15 Jul 2005 16:24:34 +0100 (BST) Received: from dhcp-edub03-237-211.Ireland.Sun.COM (dhcp-edub03-237-211.Ireland.Sun.COM [129.156.237.211]) by gadget-mail1.uk.sun.com (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.24 (built Dec 19 2003)) with ESMTPA id <0IJO00EAODGXJO@gadget-mail1.uk.sun.com>; Fri, 15 Jul 2005 16:24:33 +0100 (BST) Date: Fri, 15 Jul 2005 16:24:30 +0100 From: Calum Benson In-reply-to: <1121439009.16437.81.camel@cdelab89.cde.ireland.sun.com> To: Luis Villa Message-id: <1121441071.8414.12.camel@localhost.localdomain> Organization: Sun Microsystems Ireland Ltd. MIME-version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Evolution 2.3.5.1 Content-type: text/plain Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT References: <1121403906.5803.21.camel@localhost> <1121436239.16437.77.camel@cdelab89.cde.ireland.sun.com> <2cb10c44050715071157a44cc7@mail.gmail.com> <1121439009.16437.81.camel@cdelab89.cde.ireland.sun.com> X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at gnome.org X-BeenThere: gnome-hackers@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Sender: gnome-hackers-bounces@gnome.org Errors-To: gnome-hackers-bounces@gnome.org X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at gnome.org Cc: gnome-hackers@gnome.org, GNOME Desktop Subject: Re: Heads-up: overwrite confirmation for GtkFileChooser X-BeenThere: gnome-hackers-readonly@gnome.org Reply-To: gnome-hackers@gnome.org List-Id: Read-only copy of gnome-hackers List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 15 Jul 2005 15:24:59 -0000 On Fri, 2005-07-15 at 15:50 +0100, Calum Benson wrote: > On Fri, 2005-07-15 at 15:11, Luis Villa wrote: > > > > > - Alerts shouldn't have any titlebar text > > > > Is this, or is this not, an a11y problem? > > Open for discussion in bug #165132... I don't think it should be, > because gnopernicus (IIRC) reads out the text of alerts as they become > focused. (But I'm not sure what the current situation is with alerts > when Alt-Tabbing through windows, for example.) FWIW I've just had a chat with Bill about this, and we're satisfied that there are no significant accessibility issues for alerts provided their accessible role is ROLE_ALERT (which should be true of GtkMessageDialogs by default, but won't be of hand-crafted ones), and they don't appear in the window/alt-tab list (which should be true of the vast majority). Bill thinks we probably shouldn't actually explicitly forbid the use of titles in alerts, though, primarily for cases where either of the above may not be true... but we can follow that up in http://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=165132 . Cheeri, Calum. -- CALUM BENSON, Usability Engineer Sun Microsystems Ireland mailto:calum.benson@sun.com Java Desktop System Group http://ie.sun.com +353 1 819 9771 Any opinions are personal and not necessarily those of Sun Microsystems _______________________________________________ gnome-hackers mailing list gnome-hackers@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/gnome-hackers From Calum.Benson@Sun.COM Fri Jul 15 13:04:36 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: gnome-hackers-readonly@gnome.org Delivered-To: gnome-hackers-readonly@gnome.org Received: from localhost (unknown [127.0.0.1]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 989B53B2288 for ; Fri, 15 Jul 2005 13:04:36 -0400 (EDT) Received: from menubar.gnome.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (menubar.gnome.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 17664-06 for ; Fri, 15 Jul 2005 13:04:33 -0400 (EDT) Received: from brmea-mail-3.sun.com (brmea-mail-3.Sun.COM [192.18.98.34]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 391393B2247 for ; Fri, 15 Jul 2005 13:04:33 -0400 (EDT) Received: from phys-gadget-1 ([129.156.85.171]) by brmea-mail-3.sun.com (8.12.10/8.12.9) with ESMTP id j6FH4WvU026380 for ; Fri, 15 Jul 2005 11:04:32 -0600 (MDT) Received: from conversion-daemon.gadget-mail1.uk.sun.com by gadget-mail1.uk.sun.com (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.24 (built Dec 19 2003)) id <0IJO00101HWCLX@gadget-mail1.uk.sun.com> (original mail from Calum.Benson@Sun.COM) for gnome-hackers-readonly@gnome.org; Fri, 15 Jul 2005 18:04:32 +0100 (BST) Received: from dhcp-edub03-237-211.Ireland.Sun.COM (dhcp-edub03-237-211.Ireland.Sun.COM [129.156.237.211]) by gadget-mail1.uk.sun.com (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.24 (built Dec 19 2003)) with ESMTPA id <0IJO00EROI3JZ1@gadget-mail1.uk.sun.com>; Fri, 15 Jul 2005 18:04:32 +0100 (BST) Date: Fri, 15 Jul 2005 18:04:28 +0100 From: Calum Benson In-reply-to: <20050715152538.GA10219@jroger.in-berlin.de> To: Sebastian Rittau Message-id: <1121447068.8929.13.camel@localhost.localdomain> Organization: Sun Microsystems Ireland Ltd. MIME-version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Evolution 2.3.5.1 Content-type: text/plain Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT References: <1121436239.16437.77.camel@cdelab89.cde.ireland.sun.com> <20050715152538.GA10219@jroger.in-berlin.de> X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at gnome.org Cc: gnome-hackers-readonly@gnome.org, gnome-hackers@gnome.org Subject: Re: Heads-up: overwrite confirmation for GtkFileChooser X-BeenThere: gnome-hackers-readonly@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: gnome-hackers@gnome.org List-Id: Read-only copy of gnome-hackers List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 15 Jul 2005 17:04:36 -0000 On Fri, 2005-07-15 at 17:25 +0200, Sebastian Rittau wrote: > On Fri, Jul 15, 2005 at 03:04:48PM +0100, Calum Benson wrote: > > On Fri, 2005-07-15 at 06:05, Federico Mena Quintero wrote: > > > > > > > > http://primates.ximian.com/~federico/news-2005-07.html#14 > > > > Cool, needs a little HIG love though :) > > One more thing: It seems that the GTK_STOCK_REFRESH stock item is misused > to mean "Replace" here. I'm not sure that is a good idea. It's probably > better to introduce a new stock item. Oh yeah... I mentioned in my bug report comment that it might be fine just to use the 'Save' icon instead, as that's what clicking the button will do, after all. Cheeri, Calum. -- CALUM BENSON, Usability Engineer Sun Microsystems Ireland mailto:calum.benson@sun.com Java Desktop System Group http://ie.sun.com +353 1 819 9771 Any opinions are personal and not necessarily those of Sun Microsystems From gnome-hackers-bounces@gnome.org Fri Jul 15 13:04:45 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: gnome-hackers-readonly@gnome.org Delivered-To: gnome-hackers-readonly@gnome.org Received: from localhost (unknown [127.0.0.1]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2ED093B228E; Fri, 15 Jul 2005 13:04:45 -0400 (EDT) Received: from menubar.gnome.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (menubar.gnome.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 17787-01; Fri, 15 Jul 2005 13:04:43 -0400 (EDT) Received: from menubar.gnome.org (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1B2D23B20FE; Fri, 15 Jul 2005 13:04:41 -0400 (EDT) X-Original-To: gnome-hackers@gnome.org Delivered-To: gnome-hackers@gnome.org Received: from localhost (unknown [127.0.0.1]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E9CBD3B2247 for ; Fri, 15 Jul 2005 13:04:37 -0400 (EDT) Received: from menubar.gnome.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (menubar.gnome.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 17712-03 for ; Fri, 15 Jul 2005 13:04:34 -0400 (EDT) Received: from brmea-mail-3.sun.com (brmea-mail-3.Sun.COM [192.18.98.34]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8E4A23B2284 for ; Fri, 15 Jul 2005 13:04:33 -0400 (EDT) Received: from phys-gadget-1 ([129.156.85.171]) by brmea-mail-3.sun.com (8.12.10/8.12.9) with ESMTP id j6FH4WvW026380 for ; Fri, 15 Jul 2005 11:04:33 -0600 (MDT) Received: from conversion-daemon.gadget-mail1.uk.sun.com by gadget-mail1.uk.sun.com (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.24 (built Dec 19 2003)) id <0IJO00101HWCLX@gadget-mail1.uk.sun.com> (original mail from Calum.Benson@Sun.COM) for gnome-hackers@gnome.org; Fri, 15 Jul 2005 18:04:32 +0100 (BST) Received: from dhcp-edub03-237-211.Ireland.Sun.COM (dhcp-edub03-237-211.Ireland.Sun.COM [129.156.237.211]) by gadget-mail1.uk.sun.com (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.24 (built Dec 19 2003)) with ESMTPA id <0IJO00EROI3JZ1@gadget-mail1.uk.sun.com>; Fri, 15 Jul 2005 18:04:32 +0100 (BST) Date: Fri, 15 Jul 2005 18:04:28 +0100 From: Calum Benson In-reply-to: <20050715152538.GA10219@jroger.in-berlin.de> To: Sebastian Rittau Message-id: <1121447068.8929.13.camel@localhost.localdomain> Organization: Sun Microsystems Ireland Ltd. MIME-version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Evolution 2.3.5.1 Content-type: text/plain Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT References: <1121436239.16437.77.camel@cdelab89.cde.ireland.sun.com> <20050715152538.GA10219@jroger.in-berlin.de> X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at gnome.org X-BeenThere: gnome-hackers@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Sender: gnome-hackers-bounces@gnome.org Errors-To: gnome-hackers-bounces@gnome.org X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at gnome.org Cc: gnome-hackers-readonly@gnome.org, gnome-hackers@gnome.org Subject: Re: Heads-up: overwrite confirmation for GtkFileChooser X-BeenThere: gnome-hackers-readonly@gnome.org Reply-To: gnome-hackers@gnome.org List-Id: Read-only copy of gnome-hackers List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 15 Jul 2005 17:04:45 -0000 On Fri, 2005-07-15 at 17:25 +0200, Sebastian Rittau wrote: > On Fri, Jul 15, 2005 at 03:04:48PM +0100, Calum Benson wrote: > > On Fri, 2005-07-15 at 06:05, Federico Mena Quintero wrote: > > > > > > > > http://primates.ximian.com/~federico/news-2005-07.html#14 > > > > Cool, needs a little HIG love though :) > > One more thing: It seems that the GTK_STOCK_REFRESH stock item is misused > to mean "Replace" here. I'm not sure that is a good idea. It's probably > better to introduce a new stock item. Oh yeah... I mentioned in my bug report comment that it might be fine just to use the 'Save' icon instead, as that's what clicking the button will do, after all. Cheeri, Calum. -- CALUM BENSON, Usability Engineer Sun Microsystems Ireland mailto:calum.benson@sun.com Java Desktop System Group http://ie.sun.com +353 1 819 9771 Any opinions are personal and not necessarily those of Sun Microsystems _______________________________________________ gnome-hackers mailing list gnome-hackers@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/gnome-hackers From gnome-hackers-bounces@gnome.org Fri Jul 15 14:11:41 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: gnome-hackers-readonly@gnome.org Delivered-To: gnome-hackers-readonly@gnome.org Received: from localhost (unknown [127.0.0.1]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2AF0C3B15E8; Fri, 15 Jul 2005 14:11:41 -0400 (EDT) Received: from menubar.gnome.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (menubar.gnome.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 24351-08; Fri, 15 Jul 2005 14:11:39 -0400 (EDT) Received: from menubar.gnome.org (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 894903B159F; Fri, 15 Jul 2005 14:11:39 -0400 (EDT) X-Original-To: gnome-hackers@gnome.org Delivered-To: gnome-hackers@gnome.org Received: from localhost (unknown [127.0.0.1]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 133CD3B15E8 for ; Fri, 15 Jul 2005 14:11:38 -0400 (EDT) Received: from menubar.gnome.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (menubar.gnome.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 24327-08 for ; Fri, 15 Jul 2005 14:11:36 -0400 (EDT) Received: from peabody.ximian.com (peabody.ximian.com [130.57.169.10]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 63CE93B2040 for ; Fri, 15 Jul 2005 14:11:34 -0400 (EDT) Received: (qmail 15730 invoked from network); 15 Jul 2005 18:11:33 -0000 Received: from outbound.ximian.com (HELO ?10.0.0.4?) (130.57.170.250) by peabody.ximian.com with RC4-MD5 encrypted SMTP; 15 Jul 2005 18:11:33 -0000 From: Federico Mena Quintero To: Sebastian Rittau In-Reply-To: <20050715152538.GA10219@jroger.in-berlin.de> References: <1121436239.16437.77.camel@cdelab89.cde.ireland.sun.com> <20050715152538.GA10219@jroger.in-berlin.de> Content-Type: text/plain Date: Fri, 15 Jul 2005 13:10:44 -0500 Message-Id: <1121451044.1982.34.camel@localhost> Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Evolution 2.0.4 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at gnome.org X-BeenThere: gnome-hackers@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Sender: gnome-hackers-bounces@gnome.org Errors-To: gnome-hackers-bounces@gnome.org X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at gnome.org Cc: gnome-hackers@gnome.org Subject: Re: Heads-up: overwrite confirmation for GtkFileChooser X-BeenThere: gnome-hackers-readonly@gnome.org Reply-To: gnome-hackers@gnome.org List-Id: Read-only copy of gnome-hackers List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 15 Jul 2005 18:11:41 -0000 On Fri, 2005-07-15 at 17:25 +0200, Sebastian Rittau wrote: > One more thing: It seems that the GTK_STOCK_REFRESH stock item is misused > to mean "Replace" here. I'm not sure that is a good idea. It's probably > better to introduce a new stock item. Changed it to GTK_STOCK_SAVE_AS, which is a pencil writing on a floppy. Federico _______________________________________________ gnome-hackers mailing list gnome-hackers@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/gnome-hackers From federico@ximian.com Fri Jul 15 14:14:05 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: gnome-hackers-readonly@gnome.org Delivered-To: gnome-hackers-readonly@gnome.org Received: from localhost (unknown [127.0.0.1]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2BB913B159F for ; Fri, 15 Jul 2005 14:14:05 -0400 (EDT) Received: from menubar.gnome.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (menubar.gnome.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 24671-08 for ; Fri, 15 Jul 2005 14:14:03 -0400 (EDT) Received: from peabody.ximian.com (peabody.ximian.com [130.57.169.10]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id AA40D3B20E9 for ; Fri, 15 Jul 2005 14:14:02 -0400 (EDT) Received: (qmail 15734 invoked from network); 15 Jul 2005 18:14:01 -0000 Received: from outbound.ximian.com (HELO ?10.0.0.4?) (130.57.170.250) by peabody.ximian.com with RC4-MD5 encrypted SMTP; 15 Jul 2005 18:14:01 -0000 From: Federico Mena Quintero To: Calum Benson In-Reply-To: <1121447068.8929.13.camel@localhost.localdomain> References: <1121436239.16437.77.camel@cdelab89.cde.ireland.sun.com> <20050715152538.GA10219@jroger.in-berlin.de> <1121447068.8929.13.camel@localhost.localdomain> Content-Type: text/plain Date: Fri, 15 Jul 2005 13:13:12 -0500 Message-Id: <1121451192.1982.36.camel@localhost> Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Evolution 2.0.4 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at gnome.org Cc: Sebastian Rittau , gnome-hackers-readonly@gnome.org, gnome-hackers@gnome.org Subject: Re: Heads-up: overwrite confirmation for GtkFileChooser X-BeenThere: gnome-hackers-readonly@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: gnome-hackers@gnome.org List-Id: Read-only copy of gnome-hackers List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 15 Jul 2005 18:14:05 -0000 On Fri, 2005-07-15 at 18:04 +0100, Calum Benson wrote: > Oh yeah... I mentioned in my bug report comment that it might be fine > just to use the 'Save' icon instead, as that's what clicking the button > will do, after all. BTW, I forgot to thank the people who know the HIG by heart and were able to point out issues in the dialog :) So, thanks. Federico From gnome-hackers-bounces@gnome.org Fri Jul 15 14:14:15 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: gnome-hackers-readonly@gnome.org Delivered-To: gnome-hackers-readonly@gnome.org Received: from localhost (unknown [127.0.0.1]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CBF303B159F; Fri, 15 Jul 2005 14:14:15 -0400 (EDT) Received: from menubar.gnome.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (menubar.gnome.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 24769-01; Fri, 15 Jul 2005 14:14:13 -0400 (EDT) Received: from menubar.gnome.org (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E08373B20E9; Fri, 15 Jul 2005 14:14:11 -0400 (EDT) X-Original-To: gnome-hackers@gnome.org Delivered-To: gnome-hackers@gnome.org Received: from localhost (unknown [127.0.0.1]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 420903B0E90 for ; Fri, 15 Jul 2005 14:14:06 -0400 (EDT) Received: from menubar.gnome.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (menubar.gnome.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 24703-04 for ; Fri, 15 Jul 2005 14:14:04 -0400 (EDT) Received: from peabody.ximian.com (peabody.ximian.com [130.57.169.10]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id AA7F33B2160 for ; Fri, 15 Jul 2005 14:14:02 -0400 (EDT) Received: (qmail 15734 invoked from network); 15 Jul 2005 18:14:01 -0000 Received: from outbound.ximian.com (HELO ?10.0.0.4?) (130.57.170.250) by peabody.ximian.com with RC4-MD5 encrypted SMTP; 15 Jul 2005 18:14:01 -0000 From: Federico Mena Quintero To: Calum Benson In-Reply-To: <1121447068.8929.13.camel@localhost.localdomain> References: <1121436239.16437.77.camel@cdelab89.cde.ireland.sun.com> <20050715152538.GA10219@jroger.in-berlin.de> <1121447068.8929.13.camel@localhost.localdomain> Content-Type: text/plain Date: Fri, 15 Jul 2005 13:13:12 -0500 Message-Id: <1121451192.1982.36.camel@localhost> Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Evolution 2.0.4 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at gnome.org X-BeenThere: gnome-hackers@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Sender: gnome-hackers-bounces@gnome.org Errors-To: gnome-hackers-bounces@gnome.org X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at gnome.org Cc: Sebastian Rittau , gnome-hackers-readonly@gnome.org, gnome-hackers@gnome.org Subject: Re: Heads-up: overwrite confirmation for GtkFileChooser X-BeenThere: gnome-hackers-readonly@gnome.org Reply-To: gnome-hackers@gnome.org List-Id: Read-only copy of gnome-hackers List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 15 Jul 2005 18:14:16 -0000 On Fri, 2005-07-15 at 18:04 +0100, Calum Benson wrote: > Oh yeah... I mentioned in my bug report comment that it might be fine > just to use the 'Save' icon instead, as that's what clicking the button > will do, after all. BTW, I forgot to thank the people who know the HIG by heart and were able to point out issues in the dialog :) So, thanks. Federico _______________________________________________ gnome-hackers mailing list gnome-hackers@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/gnome-hackers From gnome-hackers-bounces@gnome.org Mon Jul 18 09:12:26 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: gnome-hackers-readonly@gnome.org Delivered-To: gnome-hackers-readonly@gnome.org Received: from localhost (unknown [127.0.0.1]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E0F4A3B138E; Mon, 18 Jul 2005 09:12:25 -0400 (EDT) Received: from menubar.gnome.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (menubar.gnome.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 09008-04; Mon, 18 Jul 2005 09:12:23 -0400 (EDT) Received: from menubar.gnome.org (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 68FF83B133C; Mon, 18 Jul 2005 09:12:07 -0400 (EDT) X-Original-To: gnome-hackers@gnome.org Delivered-To: gnome-hackers@gnome.org Received: from localhost (unknown [127.0.0.1]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CD1ED3B132B; Mon, 18 Jul 2005 09:11:58 -0400 (EDT) Received: from menubar.gnome.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (menubar.gnome.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 08826-10; Mon, 18 Jul 2005 09:11:57 -0400 (EDT) Received: from mx1.redhat.com (mx1.redhat.com [66.187.233.31]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B333B3B133C; Mon, 18 Jul 2005 09:11:56 -0400 (EDT) Received: from int-mx1.corp.redhat.com (int-mx1.corp.redhat.com [172.16.52.254]) by mx1.redhat.com (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j6IDBttb007224; Mon, 18 Jul 2005 09:11:56 -0400 Received: from lacrosse.corp.redhat.com (lacrosse.corp.redhat.com [172.16.52.154]) by int-mx1.corp.redhat.com (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id j6IDBoV27250; Mon, 18 Jul 2005 09:11:50 -0400 Received: from golem.boston.redhat.com (golem.boston.redhat.com [172.16.80.24]) by lacrosse.corp.redhat.com (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id j6IDBos31561; Mon, 18 Jul 2005 09:11:50 -0400 From: Matthias Clasen To: gnome-hackers@gnome.org In-Reply-To: <1121460878.10155.3.camel@golem.boston.redhat.com> References: <1121460878.10155.3.camel@golem.boston.redhat.com> Content-Type: text/plain Date: Mon, 18 Jul 2005 09:18:17 -0400 Message-Id: <1121692697.15157.0.camel@golem.boston.redhat.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Evolution 2.2.2 (2.2.2-11.fc5) Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at gnome.org X-BeenThere: gnome-hackers@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Sender: gnome-hackers-bounces@gnome.org Errors-To: gnome-hackers-bounces@gnome.org X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at gnome.org Cc: gnome-announce-list@gnome.org, gtk-devel-list@gnome.org, gtk-app-devel-list@gnome.org, gtk-list@gnome.org Subject: Re: GTK+ 2.7.3 released X-BeenThere: gnome-hackers-readonly@gnome.org Reply-To: gnome-hackers@gnome.org List-Id: Read-only copy of gnome-hackers List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 18 Jul 2005 13:12:26 -0000 On Fri, 2005-07-15 at 16:54 -0400, Matthias Clasen wrote: > GTK+ 2.7.3 is now available for download at: > > ftp://ftp.gtk.org/pub/gtk/v2.7/ > > gtk+-2.7.3.tar.bz2 md5sum: f4b4df474bd8bfdd5764f9025b6907f6 > gtk+-2.7.3.tar.gz md5sum: 80df68e53050efe305366ae952107309 > > > This is the fourth development release loading up to GTK+ 2.8. > I should have mentioned that GTK+ 2.7.3 depends on cvs Cairo. Hopefully there will be a new Cairo release in the next few days. Matthias _______________________________________________ gnome-hackers mailing list gnome-hackers@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/gnome-hackers From gnome-hackers-bounces@gnome.org Tue Jul 12 17:15:39 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: gnome-hackers-readonly@gnome.org Delivered-To: gnome-hackers-readonly@gnome.org Received: from localhost (unknown [127.0.0.1]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D86193B07ED; Tue, 12 Jul 2005 17:15:38 -0400 (EDT) Received: from menubar.gnome.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (menubar.gnome.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 31224-03; Tue, 12 Jul 2005 17:15:37 -0400 (EDT) Received: from menubar.gnome.org (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 44A3A3B0842; Tue, 12 Jul 2005 17:15:35 -0400 (EDT) X-Original-To: gnome-hackers@gnome.org Delivered-To: gnome-hackers@gnome.org Received: from localhost (unknown [127.0.0.1]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 16CC03B06C7 for ; Tue, 12 Jul 2005 10:29:59 -0400 (EDT) Received: from menubar.gnome.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (menubar.gnome.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 26842-03 for ; Tue, 12 Jul 2005 10:29:56 -0400 (EDT) Received: from wproxy.gmail.com (wproxy.gmail.com [64.233.184.198]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2D6743B0AA1 for ; Tue, 12 Jul 2005 10:29:56 -0400 (EDT) Received: by wproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id 37so567591wra for ; Tue, 12 Jul 2005 07:29:55 -0700 (PDT) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:reply-to:to:subject:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition; b=cuS+LaWNp6heTSJVlZT4REipmororNpMlfF2WpK9OD/oET/gX038gPrphoz76Iww9C0XP4hheLF/btW80lzxyX9LjL/igSHNuMFm8vVXW9UXD7dUTfmnfc81odyGpgBgS1qGeaqQ24BUkrEwCEfzea1D5ckvru6TdnwlnxzvOwI= Received: by 10.54.54.41 with SMTP id c41mr4424835wra; Tue, 12 Jul 2005 07:29:18 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.54.89.8 with HTTP; Tue, 12 Jul 2005 07:29:18 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <35fafc14050712072919d737ec@mail.gmail.com> Date: Tue, 12 Jul 2005 15:29:18 +0100 From: Iain * To: gnome-multimedia@gnome.org, gnome-announce-list@gnome.org, gnome-hackers@gnome.org, GStreamer Devel List Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Disposition: inline X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at gnome.org X-Mailman-Approved-At: Tue, 12 Jul 2005 17:15:33 -0400 X-BeenThere: gnome-hackers@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Sender: gnome-hackers-bounces@gnome.org Errors-To: gnome-hackers-bounces@gnome.org X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at gnome.org X-Mailman-Approved-At: Tue, 19 Jul 2005 08:07:35 -0400 Cc: Subject: Marlin 0.8 - The Unix Philosophy is a Lie - Released X-BeenThere: gnome-hackers-readonly@gnome.org Reply-To: gnome-hackers@gnome.org, Iain * List-Id: Read-only copy of gnome-hackers List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 12 Jul 2005 21:15:39 -0000 ******************************************** Marlin 0.8 - The Unix Philosophy Is A Lie ******************************************** Yeah, so after a long time Too long some might say I've got round to making a new Marlin release. Marlin is a sample editor: http://marlin.sourceforge.net http://marlin.sourceforget.net/screenshots.html New stuff in this release: Well, basically, I was adding all this stuff And I hit some limitations So I stopped and decided to add some other stuff And I hit the same limitations I tried again But for a third time hit the limitations So I decided to fix them. This led to the whole core of how Marlin deals with samples in memory being rewritten, which it needed, as it hadn't been touched since like 2002 and it was a bit smelly and embarassing in places. This now means that: * Loading is faster * There is no limit on how large a sample you can load (besides how much disk space you have previously there was a limit of about 2Gb per process) * Code is better, smaller, faster... * Sample drawing code is faster Other cooler stuff * Zero crossing detection added to move and selection dialogs. * Crossfader was finished. * Looping now works faster and doesn't have a click * Markers can be moved around with the keyboard * Invert sample works * Recording works again * Overview bar moves page around via keyboard * Markers can be snapped to ticks * Play clipboard * Marker view can show other scales besides frames * A level ruler was writen for the left side of the sample view * A VZoomed sample can be scrolled around using the level ruler * Infinity signs are used in places. * Overview bar shows markers * Average values are displayed on the sample view. * Overview bar doesn't redraw everything constantly. * Added reverse sample. * Centre on cursor actually does what it says on the tin. * More things undo/redo now as well. See, I've been hard at work. Get it from here: http://prdownloads.sourceforge.net/marlin/marlin-0.8.tar.gz?download CVS is in cvs.gnome.org Bugs to bugzilla.gnome.org Till next time(year?) iainxox _______________________________________________ gnome-hackers mailing list gnome-hackers@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/gnome-hackers From gnome-hackers-bounces@gnome.org Sat Jul 16 03:45:59 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: gnome-hackers-readonly@gnome.org Delivered-To: gnome-hackers-readonly@gnome.org Received: from localhost (unknown [127.0.0.1]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8B62C3B0971; Sat, 16 Jul 2005 03:45:59 -0400 (EDT) Received: from menubar.gnome.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (menubar.gnome.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 06778-03; Sat, 16 Jul 2005 03:45:57 -0400 (EDT) Received: from menubar.gnome.org (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 460663B0A47; Sat, 16 Jul 2005 03:45:57 -0400 (EDT) X-Original-To: gnome-hackers@gnome.org Delivered-To: gnome-hackers@gnome.org Received: from localhost (unknown [127.0.0.1]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CD45A3B06C6 for ; Fri, 15 Jul 2005 18:41:07 -0400 (EDT) Received: from menubar.gnome.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (menubar.gnome.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 10430-02 for ; Fri, 15 Jul 2005 18:41:06 -0400 (EDT) Received: from mail.hal-pc.org (mail.hal-pc.org [206.180.145.133]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 656703B0B56 for ; Fri, 15 Jul 2005 18:41:03 -0400 (EDT) Received: from [151.213.186.133] (HELO [192.168.1.20]) by mail.hal-pc.org (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 4.2.1) with ESMTP id 181855627 for gnome-hackers@gnome.org; Fri, 15 Jul 2005 17:41:02 -0500 Message-ID: <42D83B7E.2020808@hal-pc.org> Date: Fri, 15 Jul 2005 17:41:02 -0500 From: Donn Washburn User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; Linux i586; en-US;rv:1.4) Gecko/20030624 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: gnome-hackers@gnome.org References: <1121460878.10155.3.camel@golem.boston.redhat.com> In-Reply-To: <1121460878.10155.3.camel@golem.boston.redhat.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at gnome.org X-Mailman-Approved-At: Sat, 16 Jul 2005 03:45:55 -0400 X-BeenThere: gnome-hackers@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Sender: gnome-hackers-bounces@gnome.org Errors-To: gnome-hackers-bounces@gnome.org X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at gnome.org X-Mailman-Approved-At: Tue, 19 Jul 2005 08:07:35 -0400 Cc: Subject: Re: GTK+ 2.7.3 released X-BeenThere: gnome-hackers-readonly@gnome.org Reply-To: gnome-hackers@gnome.org List-Id: Read-only copy of gnome-hackers List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 16 Jul 2005 07:45:59 -0000 Compiled very cleanly in SuSE9.3 "make check" passed all parts Now will see what fails! Matthias Clasen wrote: > GTK+ 2.7.3 is now available for download at: > > ftp://ftp.gtk.org/pub/gtk/v2.7/ > > gtk+-2.7.3.tar.bz2 md5sum: f4b4df474bd8bfdd5764f9025b6907f6 > gtk+-2.7.3.tar.gz md5sum: 80df68e53050efe305366ae952107309 > > > This is the fourth development release loading up to GTK+ 2.8. > -- 73 de Donn Washburn Hpage: " http://www.hal-pc.org/~n5xwb " Ham Callsign N5XWB Email: " n5xwb@hal-pc.org " 307 Savoy St. HAMs: " n5xwb@arrl.net " Sugar Land, TX 77478 BMW MOA #: 4146 - Ambassador LL# 1.281.242.3256 " http://counter.li.org " #279316 _______________________________________________ gnome-hackers mailing list gnome-hackers@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/gnome-hackers From gnome-hackers-bounces@gnome.org Sat Jul 16 03:46:00 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: gnome-hackers-readonly@gnome.org Delivered-To: gnome-hackers-readonly@gnome.org Received: from localhost (unknown [127.0.0.1]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id F01173B0971; Sat, 16 Jul 2005 03:45:59 -0400 (EDT) Received: from menubar.gnome.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (menubar.gnome.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 06752-05; Sat, 16 Jul 2005 03:45:57 -0400 (EDT) Received: from menubar.gnome.org (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7778A3B0AC8; Sat, 16 Jul 2005 03:45:57 -0400 (EDT) X-Original-To: gnome-hackers@gnome.org Delivered-To: gnome-hackers@gnome.org Received: from localhost (unknown [127.0.0.1]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 781453B0B0F for ; Fri, 15 Jul 2005 21:22:14 -0400 (EDT) Received: from menubar.gnome.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (menubar.gnome.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 18868-10 for ; Fri, 15 Jul 2005 21:22:11 -0400 (EDT) Received: from rproxy.gmail.com (rproxy.gmail.com [64.233.170.197]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 214AB3B0735 for ; Fri, 15 Jul 2005 21:22:10 -0400 (EDT) Received: by rproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id a41so841897rng for ; Fri, 15 Jul 2005 18:22:09 -0700 (PDT) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:reply-to:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; b=Hr4TSIUTlQvb3fAPizC9tPKQfk7qtPpa9uEj1+0qNmg/pBAddQWnuCyGqstVJvpuUdvHpOFCtIHIiPLRopHiugLQmYVl+P/Ja4qJ2b0ZWWDkePEs/MGwX/26A+HIeSdoo3uN0i8NpzMZfmvSek1KvqFbDkmNZdR+gBWa7Ro+iYo= Received: by 10.38.74.33 with SMTP id w33mr90599rna; Fri, 15 Jul 2005 18:22:09 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.38.10.80 with HTTP; Fri, 15 Jul 2005 18:22:09 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <3e9035250507151822711056b1@mail.gmail.com> Date: Fri, 15 Jul 2005 21:22:09 -0400 From: Mike Emmel To: gnome-hackers@gnome.org In-Reply-To: <1121460878.10155.3.camel@golem.boston.redhat.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Disposition: inline References: <1121460878.10155.3.camel@golem.boston.redhat.com> X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at gnome.org X-Mailman-Approved-At: Sat, 16 Jul 2005 03:45:55 -0400 X-BeenThere: gnome-hackers@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Sender: gnome-hackers-bounces@gnome.org Errors-To: gnome-hackers-bounces@gnome.org X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at gnome.org X-Mailman-Approved-At: Tue, 19 Jul 2005 08:07:35 -0400 Cc: Subject: Re: GTK+ 2.7.3 released X-BeenThere: gnome-hackers-readonly@gnome.org Reply-To: gnome-hackers@gnome.org, Mike Emmel List-Id: Read-only copy of gnome-hackers List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 16 Jul 2005 07:46:00 -0000 Thanks I just finished upgrading the directfb backend to work with 2.7.2 this morning :) On 7/15/05, Matthias Clasen wrote: > GTK+ 2.7.3 is now available for download at: >=20 > ftp://ftp.gtk.org/pub/gtk/v2.7/ >=20 > gtk+-2.7.3.tar.bz2 md5sum: f4b4df474bd8bfdd5764f9025b6907f6 > gtk+-2.7.3.tar.gz md5sum: 80df68e53050efe305366ae952107309 >=20 >=20 > This is the fourth development release loading up to GTK+ 2.8. >=20 >=20 > Notes: >=20 > * This is unstable development release. There are certainly > plenty of bugs remaining to be found. This release should > not be used in production. >=20 > * Installing this version will overwrite your existing > copy of GTK+ 2.6. If you have problems, you'll need > to reinstall GTK+ 2.6.8. >=20 > * GTK+ 2.8 will be source and binary compatible with the GTK+ > 2.6.x series. The new API additions in GTK+ 2.7.x are > finalized at this point, and GTK+ 2.7.x should be considered > API frozen. Unless serious issues with the new APIs come up, > there will be no API changes between this release and the > 2.8.0 release. >=20 > * Remaining issues for GTK+ 2.8 can be found with following > bugzilla query: >=20 > http://bugzilla.gnome.org/buglist.cgi?product=3Dgtk% > 2b&target_milestone=3D2.8+API+Freeze&target_milestone=3D2.8 > +Freeze&bug_status=3DUNCONFIRMED&bug_status=3DNEW&bug_status=3DASSIGNED&b= ug_status=3DREOPENED >=20 > * Bugs should be reported to http://bugzilla.gnome.org. >=20 >=20 > What is GTK+ > =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D >=20 > GTK+ is a multi-platform toolkit for creating graphical user > interfaces. Offering a complete set of widgets, GTK+ is suitable for > projects ranging from small one-off tools to complete application > suites. >=20 > GTK+ has been designed from the ground up to support a range of > languages, not only C/C++. Using GTK+ from languages such as Perl and > Python (especially in combination with the Glade GUI builder) provides > an effective method of rapid application development. >=20 > GTK+ is free software and part of the GNU Project. However, the > licensing terms for GTK+, the GNU LGPL, allow it to be used by all > developers, including those developing proprietary software, without > any license fees or royalties. >=20 >=20 > Where to get more information about GTK+ > =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D >=20 > Information about GTK+ including links to documentation can be > found at: >=20 > http://www.gtk.org/ >=20 > An installation guide for GTK+ 2.x is found at: >=20 > http://developer.gnome.org/doc/API/2.4/gtk/gtk-building.html >=20 > Common questions: >=20 > http://developer.gnome.org/doc/API/2.4/gtk/gtk-question-index.html > http://www.gtk.org/faq/ >=20 >=20 > Overview of Changes from GTK+ 2.7.2 to GTK+ 2.7.3 > =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D > * Make sure that gtk_window_present() moves the window to the > current desktop [Elijah Newren] > * GtkFileChooser > - Add overwrite confirmation for SAVE mode [Federico Mena Quintero] > * GtkTreeView > - Add gtk_tree_view_get_visible_range() [Mikael Hallendal] > - Add gtk_tree_view_column_queue_resize() [Morten Welinder] > - Add gtk_tree_row_reference_get_model() [Stefan Kost] > - Make page up/down behave as in the text view [Owen Taylor] > - In typeahead search, allow Ctrl-G to move to the > next match. [Matt T. Proud] > - Interpret Ctrl-Backspace as "Move focus to parent [Kathy > Fernandes] > - Speed up gtk_tree_selection_selected_foreach [Kristian Rietveld] > * GtkTextView > - Make double-clicking between words select whitespace [Mike > Miller, Paolo Borelli] > - Show dragged text in drag icon [Kevin Duffus, Carlos > Garnacho Parro] > - Make invisible text work well enough to remove the > remove the warning about it being unsupported. [Matthias] > * GtkEntry > - Make double-clicking between words select whitespace [Matthias] > - Show dragged text in drag icon [Kevin Duffus, Carlos Garnacho Parro] > - Fix the sizing of the entry completion popup [Ross Burton, Kris] > * Win32 > - Build fixes [Tor Lillqvist] > - Fix handlink of Aiptek tablets [Robert =D6gren] > * Bug fixes [Kris, Jorn Baayen, Billy Biggs, Tomislav Jonjic, > Owen Taylor, Vincent Noel, Carlos Garnacho Parro, Mark McLoughlin. > Mikael Magnusson, Luis Villa, Brian Bober, Bernd Demian, Manish > Singh, Akira Tagoh, Barbie LeVille, Hans Oesterholt] > * Documentation improvements [Torsten Schoenfeld, Rodney Dawes, > Park Ji-In] > * New and updated translations (cs,es,et,he,hu,nb,nl,no,sk) >=20 >=20 > A list of all bugs fixed in this release can be found at > http://bugzilla.gnome.org/buglist.cgi?bug_id=3D165034,305582,305737,10122= 0,156657,309946,309860,161132,166379,66194,310047,310086,309137,167004,3102= 21,144480,310133,142063,309249,105252,169961,309997,160879,152850,309910 >=20 >=20 > 15 July, 2005 >=20 >=20 > _______________________________________________ > gtk-devel-list mailing list > gtk-devel-list@gnome.org > http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/gtk-devel-list > _______________________________________________ gnome-hackers mailing list gnome-hackers@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/gnome-hackers From gnome-hackers-bounces@gnome.org Tue Jul 19 15:09:35 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: gnome-hackers-readonly@gnome.org Delivered-To: gnome-hackers-readonly@gnome.org Received: from localhost (unknown [127.0.0.1]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E49B13B131C; Tue, 19 Jul 2005 15:09:35 -0400 (EDT) Received: from menubar.gnome.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (menubar.gnome.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 16502-08; Tue, 19 Jul 2005 15:09:32 -0400 (EDT) Received: from menubar.gnome.org (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5ED623B1275; Tue, 19 Jul 2005 15:09:32 -0400 (EDT) X-Original-To: gnome-hackers@gnome.org Delivered-To: gnome-hackers@gnome.org Received: from localhost (unknown [127.0.0.1]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7480E3B1275; Tue, 19 Jul 2005 15:09:27 -0400 (EDT) Received: from menubar.gnome.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (menubar.gnome.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 16481-09; Tue, 19 Jul 2005 15:09:25 -0400 (EDT) Received: from avet.kvota.net (unknown [147.91.15.39]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CDFAF3B1261; Tue, 19 Jul 2005 15:09:24 -0400 (EDT) Received: by avet.kvota.net (Postfix, from userid 1000) id 474947C53E; Tue, 19 Jul 2005 21:09:25 +0200 (CEST) To: desktop-devel-list@gnome.org From: danilo@gnome.org (=?utf-8?q?Danilo_=C5=A0egan?=) Mail-Followup-To: desktop-devel-list@gnome.org, gnome-hackers@gnome.org Date: Tue, 19 Jul 2005 21:09:25 +0200 Message-ID: <87fyua7guy.fsf@avet.kvota.net> User-Agent: Gnus/5.11 (Gnus v5.11) Emacs/21.3.50 (gnu/linux) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at gnome.org X-BeenThere: gnome-hackers@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Sender: gnome-hackers-bounces@gnome.org Errors-To: gnome-hackers-bounces@gnome.org X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at gnome.org Cc: gnome-hackers@gnome.org Subject: ANNOUNCEMENT: Gnome-Doc-Utils Migration Guide X-BeenThere: gnome-hackers-readonly@gnome.org Reply-To: gnome-hackers@gnome.org List-Id: Read-only copy of gnome-hackers List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 19 Jul 2005 19:09:36 -0000 Heya hackers, We've just written a guide to help you migrate your modules to gnome-doc-utils, which will immensly help both documentors and translators. Just head straight over to: http://live.gnome.org/GnomeDocUtilsMigrationHowTo The early winners are bug-buddy (which shaunm converted) and gnome-panel (rock on vuntz!). chpe has been working on enlightening the epiphany behind the scenes, and davyd is already convinced to make g-d-u do the work for gnome-applets. If you need any live help, you can find shaunm or danilo on IRC, but I'm sure other guys with experience will be glad to help as well :) (vuntz, chpe). Worthy of mention is that if you switch your module, you'll get doc translation statistics like those at: http://kvota.net/doc-l10n/by-modules.html (ok, they can be prettier, but that's not high priority yet :). Cheers, Danilo _______________________________________________ gnome-hackers mailing list gnome-hackers@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/gnome-hackers From gnome-hackers-bounces@gnome.org Fri Jul 29 00:42:01 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: gnome-hackers-readonly@gnome.org Delivered-To: gnome-hackers-readonly@gnome.org Received: from localhost (unknown [127.0.0.1]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C6D803B06D9; Fri, 29 Jul 2005 00:42:01 -0400 (EDT) Received: from menubar.gnome.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (menubar.gnome.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 11375-10; Fri, 29 Jul 2005 00:41:59 -0400 (EDT) Received: from menubar.gnome.org (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 10B8D3B1C62; Fri, 29 Jul 2005 00:41:59 -0400 (EDT) X-Original-To: gnome-hackers@gnome.org Delivered-To: gnome-hackers@gnome.org Received: from localhost (unknown [127.0.0.1]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id AC6DF3B06D9 for ; Fri, 29 Jul 2005 00:41:55 -0400 (EDT) Received: from menubar.gnome.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (menubar.gnome.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 11380-05 for ; Fri, 29 Jul 2005 00:41:53 -0400 (EDT) Received: from indy.ph.unimelb.edu.au (indy.ph.unimelb.edu.au [128.250.54.6]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with SMTP id D537C3B11A8 for ; Fri, 29 Jul 2005 00:41:51 -0400 (EDT) Received: (qmail 25299 invoked from network); 29 Jul 2005 04:30:55 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO seviorpc.ph.unimelb.edu.au) (128.250.50.6) by indy.ph.unimelb.edu.au with SMTP; 29 Jul 2005 04:30:55 -0000 From: Martin Sevior To: Christian Rose In-Reply-To: <1118610714.27184.1233.camel@stina.menthos.com> References: <42431.211.28.207.95.1118493946.squirrel@kiosk.ph.unimelb.edu.au> <20050611165251.GD8699@localhost.localdomain> <1118528004.27184.1149.camel@stina.menthos.com> <43187.211.28.207.95.1118542427.squirrel@kiosk1.ph.unimelb.edu.au> <1118610714.27184.1233.camel@stina.menthos.com> Content-Type: text/plain Organization: University of Melbourne Date: Fri, 29 Jul 2005 14:41:05 +1000 Message-Id: <1122612065.10303.509.camel@seviorpc> Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Evolution 2.2.2 (2.2.2-5) Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at gnome.org X-BeenThere: gnome-hackers@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Sender: gnome-hackers-bounces@gnome.org Errors-To: gnome-hackers-bounces@gnome.org X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at gnome.org Cc: gnome-sysadmin@gnome.org, gnome-hackers@gnome.org Subject: AbiWord-2.3.4 uploaded. X-BeenThere: gnome-hackers-readonly@gnome.org Reply-To: gnome-hackers@gnome.org, msevior@physics.unimelb.edu.au List-Id: Read-only copy of gnome-hackers List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 29 Jul 2005 04:42:02 -0000 Hi Christian and the rest of the gnome-sysadmin team. I've uploaded AbiWord-2.3.4 to the gnome ftp servers. I believe a development version of Gnumeric will be uploaded shortly. AbiWord, Gnumeric and I believe GNOME-DB will be proposed as the initial packages for the "productivity-set" of GNOME. Should further discussion take place on gnome-devel? Cheers Martin _______________________________________________ gnome-hackers mailing list gnome-hackers@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/gnome-hackers From gnome-hackers-bounces@gnome.org Fri Jul 29 02:32:15 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: gnome-hackers-readonly@gnome.org Delivered-To: gnome-hackers-readonly@gnome.org Received: from localhost (unknown [127.0.0.1]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 113EF3B0ABC; Fri, 29 Jul 2005 02:32:15 -0400 (EDT) Received: from menubar.gnome.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (menubar.gnome.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 18522-02; Fri, 29 Jul 2005 02:32:12 -0400 (EDT) Received: from menubar.gnome.org (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 242E83B066C; Fri, 29 Jul 2005 02:32:12 -0400 (EDT) X-Original-To: gnome-hackers@gnome.org Delivered-To: gnome-hackers@gnome.org Received: from localhost (unknown [127.0.0.1]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D69AA3B088C for ; Fri, 29 Jul 2005 02:32:08 -0400 (EDT) Received: from menubar.gnome.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (menubar.gnome.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 18394-10 for ; Fri, 29 Jul 2005 02:32:06 -0400 (EDT) Received: from indy.ph.unimelb.edu.au (indy.ph.unimelb.edu.au [128.250.54.6]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 96E213B066C for ; Fri, 29 Jul 2005 02:32:02 -0400 (EDT) Received: (qmail 3529 invoked from network); 29 Jul 2005 06:21:06 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO kiosk.ph.unimelb.edu.au) (128.250.54.43) by indy.ph.unimelb.edu.au with SMTP; 29 Jul 2005 06:21:06 -0000 Received: from 211.28.141.229 (SquirrelMail authenticated user msevior) by kiosk.ph.unimelb.edu.au with HTTP; Fri, 29 Jul 2005 16:32:01 +1000 (EST) Message-ID: <6190.211.28.141.229.1122618721.squirrel@kiosk.ph.unimelb.edu.au> In-Reply-To: <2cb10c4405072614493cf8efea@mail.gmail.com> References: <2cb10c4405072614493cf8efea@mail.gmail.com> Date: Fri, 29 Jul 2005 16:32:01 +1000 (EST) From: msevior@physics.unimelb.edu.au To: gnome-hackers@gnome.org, "Luis Villa" User-Agent: SquirrelMail/1.4.5 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain;charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at gnome.org X-BeenThere: gnome-hackers@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Sender: gnome-hackers-bounces@gnome.org Errors-To: gnome-hackers-bounces@gnome.org X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at gnome.org Cc: Desktop Devel , devel-announce-list@gnome.org Subject: Re: new modules for 2.12 X-BeenThere: gnome-hackers-readonly@gnome.org Reply-To: gnome-hackers@gnome.org List-Id: Read-only copy of gnome-hackers List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 29 Jul 2005 06:32:15 -0000 > The release team met last week, and we talked a bit about the new > module stuff. As usual, we tried to understand and reflect the > community consensus as reflected in d-d-l and other forums, with the > understanding that sometimes we have to, you know, go ahead and decide > ;) > > In: > * evince: It's clearly a great, very gnome-y app. We'd like to thank > the ggv and gpdf authors for all the work they've done over the years. > > * services-admin: is now fairly polished and the maintainer wants it > in, and no one has objected to that. > > * gnome-keyring-manager: underwent a lot of work after the last round > of objections, and has not been objected to in its new format. Not > getting releases very regularly, though; we need that to change or > we'll have to punt it to 2.14. > > Punted to 2.13/2.14 > * eggcups: this was pushed very late, and partially as a result there > is a lack of clarity and consensus here, particularly with regards to > the relationship of this to other pieces of the printing stack. We > look forward to those issues getting straightened out at the summit ;) > > * productivity/office suite: the discussions about where this would > fit, what the rules would be, etc., were never very conclusive; it > wasn't even clear whether or not this was our problem, so maybe it > isn't :) We'd love to see this stuff release on our schedule, and for > the folks involved including the heads of the various teams and the > heads of the various projects sit down and come to some conclusions. > Perhaps that'll happen at the summit too; if not, it needs to happen > somewhere else and obviously in time for 2.14. > HI Luis, The productivity/Office suite will contain AbiWord-2.4, Gnumeric-1.6 and probabally GNOME-db (I haven't had confirmation from Rodrigo yet but he has said that it would be ready previously and I only just asked him a few hours ago.) Martin > Luis (hoping this one isn't quite as second-guessed as the last one ;) > -- > devel-announce-list mailing list > devel-announce-list@gnome.org > http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/devel-announce-list > _______________________________________________ gnome-hackers mailing list gnome-hackers@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/gnome-hackers From gnome-hackers-bounces@gnome.org Fri Jul 29 04:21:55 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: gnome-hackers-readonly@gnome.org Delivered-To: gnome-hackers-readonly@gnome.org Received: from localhost (unknown [127.0.0.1]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BC8523B066B; Fri, 29 Jul 2005 04:21:55 -0400 (EDT) Received: from menubar.gnome.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (menubar.gnome.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 28294-09; Fri, 29 Jul 2005 04:21:53 -0400 (EDT) Received: from menubar.gnome.org (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id AD2AE3B0929; Fri, 29 Jul 2005 04:21:53 -0400 (EDT) X-Original-To: gnome-hackers@gnome.org Delivered-To: gnome-hackers@gnome.org Received: from localhost (unknown [127.0.0.1]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C0BDE3B1C5D; Fri, 29 Jul 2005 04:21:49 -0400 (EDT) Received: from menubar.gnome.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (menubar.gnome.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 28294-07; Fri, 29 Jul 2005 04:21:47 -0400 (EDT) Received: from jareth.dreamhost.com (jareth.dreamhost.com [66.33.198.201]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 222EC3B0BC7; Fri, 29 Jul 2005 04:21:47 -0400 (EDT) Received: from [192.168.1.100] (p5498C97F.dip.t-dialin.net [84.152.201.127]) by jareth.dreamhost.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5E6636B63D; Fri, 29 Jul 2005 01:21:44 -0700 (PDT) From: Murray Cumming To: msevior@physics.unimelb.edu.au In-Reply-To: <1122612065.10303.509.camel@seviorpc> References: <42431.211.28.207.95.1118493946.squirrel@kiosk.ph.unimelb.edu.au> <20050611165251.GD8699@localhost.localdomain> <1118528004.27184.1149.camel@stina.menthos.com> <43187.211.28.207.95.1118542427.squirrel@kiosk1.ph.unimelb.edu.au> <1118610714.27184.1233.camel@stina.menthos.com> <1122612065.10303.509.camel@seviorpc> Content-Type: text/plain Date: Fri, 29 Jul 2005 10:21:43 +0200 Message-Id: <1122625303.5074.27.camel@localhost.localdomain> Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Evolution 2.0.4 (2.0.4-4) Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at gnome.org X-BeenThere: gnome-hackers@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Sender: gnome-hackers-bounces@gnome.org Errors-To: gnome-hackers-bounces@gnome.org X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at gnome.org Cc: gnome-sysadmin , Gnome Hackers , Christian Rose Subject: Re: AbiWord-2.3.4 uploaded. X-BeenThere: gnome-hackers-readonly@gnome.org Reply-To: gnome-hackers@gnome.org List-Id: Read-only copy of gnome-hackers List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 29 Jul 2005 08:21:55 -0000 On Fri, 2005-07-29 at 14:41 +1000, Martin Sevior wrote: > Hi Christian and the rest of the gnome-sysadmin team. > > I've uploaded AbiWord-2.3.4 to the gnome ftp servers. I believe a > development version of Gnumeric will be uploaded shortly. > > AbiWord, Gnumeric and I believe GNOME-DB I assume that you mean "mergeant". > will be proposed as the initial > packages for the "productivity-set" of GNOME. Please remember that this will be a beta, non official, release set that just happens to (try to) follow the GNOME schedule. > Should further discussion take place on gnome-devel? d-d-l or release-team is probably more appropriate. -- Murray Cumming murrayc@murrayc.com www.murrayc.com www.openismus.com _______________________________________________ gnome-hackers mailing list gnome-hackers@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/gnome-hackers From gnome-hackers-bounces@gnome.org Fri Jul 29 04:43:41 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: gnome-hackers-readonly@gnome.org Delivered-To: gnome-hackers-readonly@gnome.org Received: from localhost (unknown [127.0.0.1]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BB9723B1CD8; Fri, 29 Jul 2005 04:43:40 -0400 (EDT) Received: from menubar.gnome.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (menubar.gnome.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 30401-07; Fri, 29 Jul 2005 04:43:38 -0400 (EDT) Received: from menubar.gnome.org (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BB8AF3B1CCD; Fri, 29 Jul 2005 04:43:30 -0400 (EDT) X-Original-To: gnome-hackers@gnome.org Delivered-To: gnome-hackers@gnome.org Received: from localhost (unknown [127.0.0.1]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6CCC83B1CBF for ; Fri, 29 Jul 2005 04:43:25 -0400 (EDT) Received: from menubar.gnome.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (menubar.gnome.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 30331-06 for ; Fri, 29 Jul 2005 04:43:25 -0400 (EDT) Received: from peabody.ximian.com (peabody.ximian.com [130.57.169.10]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1416F3B1C64 for ; Fri, 29 Jul 2005 04:43:22 -0400 (EDT) Received: (qmail 696 invoked from network); 29 Jul 2005 08:43:18 -0000 Received: from localhost (HELO ?164.99.120.141?) (127.0.0.1) by localhost with SMTP; 29 Jul 2005 08:43:18 -0000 From: Rodrigo Moya To: msevior@physics.unimelb.edu.au In-Reply-To: <6190.211.28.141.229.1122618721.squirrel@kiosk.ph.unimelb.edu.au> References: <2cb10c4405072614493cf8efea@mail.gmail.com> <6190.211.28.141.229.1122618721.squirrel@kiosk.ph.unimelb.edu.au> Content-Type: text/plain Date: Fri, 29 Jul 2005 10:41:42 +0200 Message-Id: <1122626502.9233.5.camel@formigal.home> Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Evolution 2.3.3 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at gnome.org X-BeenThere: gnome-hackers@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Sender: gnome-hackers-bounces@gnome.org Errors-To: gnome-hackers-bounces@gnome.org X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at gnome.org Cc: Luis Villa , Desktop Devel , gnome-hackers@gnome.org, devel-announce-list@gnome.org Subject: Re: new modules for 2.12 X-BeenThere: gnome-hackers-readonly@gnome.org Reply-To: gnome-hackers@gnome.org List-Id: Read-only copy of gnome-hackers List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 29 Jul 2005 08:43:41 -0000 On Fri, 2005-07-29 at 16:32 +1000, msevior@physics.unimelb.edu.au wrote: > > The release team met last week, and we talked a bit about the new > > module stuff. As usual, we tried to understand and reflect the > > community consensus as reflected in d-d-l and other forums, with the > > understanding that sometimes we have to, you know, go ahead and decide > > ;) > > > > In: > > * evince: It's clearly a great, very gnome-y app. We'd like to thank > > the ggv and gpdf authors for all the work they've done over the years. > > > > * services-admin: is now fairly polished and the maintainer wants it > > in, and no one has objected to that. > > > > * gnome-keyring-manager: underwent a lot of work after the last round > > of objections, and has not been objected to in its new format. Not > > getting releases very regularly, though; we need that to change or > > we'll have to punt it to 2.14. > > > > Punted to 2.13/2.14 > > * eggcups: this was pushed very late, and partially as a result there > > is a lack of clarity and consensus here, particularly with regards to > > the relationship of this to other pieces of the printing stack. We > > look forward to those issues getting straightened out at the summit ;) > > > > * productivity/office suite: the discussions about where this would > > fit, what the rules would be, etc., were never very conclusive; it > > wasn't even clear whether or not this was our problem, so maybe it > > isn't :) We'd love to see this stuff release on our schedule, and for > > the folks involved including the heads of the various teams and the > > heads of the various projects sit down and come to some conclusions. > > Perhaps that'll happen at the summit too; if not, it needs to happen > > somewhere else and obviously in time for 2.14. > > > > HI Luis, > The productivity/Office suite will contain AbiWord-2.4, > Gnumeric-1.6 and probabally GNOME-db (I haven't had confirmation > from Rodrigo yet but he has said that it would be ready previously > and I only just asked him a few hours ago.) > yes, gnome-db will be ready, we are about to freeze for releasing at gnome 2.12 time. -- Rodrigo Moya _______________________________________________ gnome-hackers mailing list gnome-hackers@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/gnome-hackers From gnome-hackers-bounces@gnome.org Sat Jul 30 00:09:18 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: gnome-hackers-readonly@gnome.org Delivered-To: gnome-hackers-readonly@gnome.org Received: from localhost (unknown [127.0.0.1]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1FCD73B12D1; Sat, 30 Jul 2005 00:09:18 -0400 (EDT) Received: from menubar.gnome.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (menubar.gnome.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 13504-08; Sat, 30 Jul 2005 00:09:16 -0400 (EDT) Received: from menubar.gnome.org (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3742E3B12C2; Sat, 30 Jul 2005 00:09:16 -0400 (EDT) X-Original-To: gnome-hackers@gnome.org Delivered-To: gnome-hackers@gnome.org Received: from localhost (unknown [127.0.0.1]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8EE0F3B12D8 for ; Sat, 30 Jul 2005 00:09:11 -0400 (EDT) Received: from menubar.gnome.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (menubar.gnome.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 13521-05 for ; Sat, 30 Jul 2005 00:09:08 -0400 (EDT) Received: from oracle.bridgewayconsulting.com.au (oracle.bridgewayconsulting.com.au [203.56.14.38]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 32D7A3B12C2 for ; Sat, 30 Jul 2005 00:09:08 -0400 (EDT) Received: from frobisher.madeley (cugglephone.madeley.id.au [203.56.15.217]) (using TLSv1 with cipher RC4-MD5 (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by oracle.bridgewayconsulting.com.au (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5CFC42E8004 for ; Sat, 30 Jul 2005 12:09:01 +0800 (WST) From: Davyd Madeley To: gnome-hackers@gnome.org Content-Type: text/plain Date: Sat, 30 Jul 2005 12:08:58 +0800 Message-Id: <1122696538.5750.7.camel@frobisher.madeley.id.au> Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Evolution 2.3.6 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at gnome.org X-BeenThere: gnome-hackers@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Sender: gnome-hackers-bounces@gnome.org Errors-To: gnome-hackers-bounces@gnome.org X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at gnome.org Cc: Subject: G2.12 Prerelease Tour X-BeenThere: gnome-hackers-readonly@gnome.org Reply-To: gnome-hackers@gnome.org List-Id: Read-only copy of gnome-hackers List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 30 Jul 2005 04:09:18 -0000 I haven't yet announced it on my blog. I want to make sure that I haven't said anything that is wrong, or left anything out. http://www.gnome.org/~davyd/gnome-2-12/ I am currently missing Epiphany screenshots, as I can't seem to get any of that stuff working. If someone wants to send me raw screenshots in the same theme and font sizes, I can add them in. --d -- Davyd Madeley http://www.davyd.id.au/ 08B0 341A 0B9B 08BB 2118 C060 2EDD BB4F 5191 6CDA _______________________________________________ gnome-hackers mailing list gnome-hackers@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/gnome-hackers From gnome-hackers-bounces@gnome.org Sat Jul 30 08:56:16 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: gnome-hackers-readonly@gnome.org Delivered-To: gnome-hackers-readonly@gnome.org Received: from localhost (unknown [127.0.0.1]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 822B03B13AD; Sat, 30 Jul 2005 08:56:16 -0400 (EDT) Received: from menubar.gnome.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (menubar.gnome.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 13098-10; Sat, 30 Jul 2005 08:56:14 -0400 (EDT) Received: from menubar.gnome.org (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BDD7F3B1398; Sat, 30 Jul 2005 08:56:14 -0400 (EDT) X-Original-To: gnome-hackers@gnome.org Delivered-To: gnome-hackers@gnome.org Received: from localhost (unknown [127.0.0.1]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 91C483B1398 for ; Sat, 30 Jul 2005 08:56:12 -0400 (EDT) Received: from menubar.gnome.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (menubar.gnome.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 13131-08 for ; Sat, 30 Jul 2005 08:56:10 -0400 (EDT) Received: from smtp.nildram.co.uk (smtp.nildram.co.uk [195.112.4.54]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3F39C3B13AF for ; Sat, 30 Jul 2005 08:56:10 -0400 (EDT) Received: from burtonini.com (althur.gotadsl.co.uk [84.12.135.175]) by smtp.nildram.co.uk (Postfix) with ESMTP id 942A1252C01 for ; Sat, 30 Jul 2005 13:56:06 +0100 (BST) Received: from 127.0.0.1 (ident=unknown) by burtonini.com with esmtp (masqmail 0.2.20) id 1Dyqsn-3qc-00 for ; Sat, 30 Jul 2005 13:56:05 +0100 From: Ross Burton To: gnome-hackers@gnome.org In-Reply-To: <1122696538.5750.7.camel@frobisher.madeley.id.au> References: <1122696538.5750.7.camel@frobisher.madeley.id.au> Content-Type: text/plain Date: Sat, 30 Jul 2005 13:56:03 +0100 Message-Id: <1122728163.22761.2.camel@localhost.localdomain> Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Evolution 2.2.1.1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at gnome.org X-BeenThere: gnome-hackers@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Sender: gnome-hackers-bounces@gnome.org Errors-To: gnome-hackers-bounces@gnome.org X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at gnome.org Cc: Subject: Re: G2.12 Prerelease Tour X-BeenThere: gnome-hackers-readonly@gnome.org Reply-To: gnome-hackers@gnome.org List-Id: Read-only copy of gnome-hackers List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 30 Jul 2005 12:56:16 -0000 On Sat, 2005-07-30 at 12:08 +0800, Davyd Madeley wrote: > I haven't yet announced it on my blog. I want to make sure that I > haven't said anything that is wrong, or left anything out. > > http://www.gnome.org/~davyd/gnome-2-12/ > > I am currently missing Epiphany screenshots, as I can't seem to get any > of that stuff working. If someone wants to send me raw screenshots in > the same theme and font sizes, I can add them in. You'll want to re-take the Sound Juicer screenshot, the UI has changed a little since that was taken. Ross -- Ross Burton mail: ross@burtonini.com jabber: ross@burtonini.com www: http://www.burtonini.com./ PGP Fingerprint: 1A21 F5B0 D8D0 CFE3 81D4 E25A 2D09 E447 D0B4 33DF _______________________________________________ gnome-hackers mailing list gnome-hackers@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/gnome-hackers From gnome-hackers-bounces@gnome.org Sun Jul 31 07:09:22 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: gnome-hackers-readonly@gnome.org Delivered-To: gnome-hackers-readonly@gnome.org Received: from localhost (unknown [127.0.0.1]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 03A863B06EC; Sun, 31 Jul 2005 07:09:22 -0400 (EDT) Received: from menubar.gnome.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (menubar.gnome.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 04870-01; Sun, 31 Jul 2005 07:09:20 -0400 (EDT) Received: from menubar.gnome.org (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 611D33B06DF; Sun, 31 Jul 2005 07:09:20 -0400 (EDT) X-Original-To: gnome-hackers@gnome.org Delivered-To: gnome-hackers@gnome.org Received: from localhost (unknown [127.0.0.1]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8F4753B068A for ; Sun, 31 Jul 2005 07:09:18 -0400 (EDT) Received: from menubar.gnome.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (menubar.gnome.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 04841-05 for ; Sun, 31 Jul 2005 07:09:17 -0400 (EDT) Received: from lucifer.nerdfest.org (lucifer.nerdfest.org [216.243.209.218]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9492B3B0011 for ; Sun, 31 Jul 2005 07:09:16 -0400 (EDT) Received: from [192.168.1.5] (cpc4-glfd1-4-0-cust97.glfd.cable.ntl.com [82.15.237.97]) (authenticated bits=0) by lucifer.nerdfest.org (8.13.1/8.13.1) with ESMTP id j6VB9AWj008695 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=RC4-MD5 bits=128 verify=NO); Sun, 31 Jul 2005 06:09:13 -0500 From: Bastien Nocera To: Davyd Madeley In-Reply-To: <1122696538.5750.7.camel@frobisher.madeley.id.au> References: <1122696538.5750.7.camel@frobisher.madeley.id.au> Content-Type: text/plain Date: Sun, 31 Jul 2005 12:13:57 +0100 Message-Id: <1122808437.30343.50.camel@wyatt.hadess.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Evolution 2.2.2 (2.2.2-5) Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Virus-Scanned: ClamAV 0.85.1/998/Sat Jul 30 19:09:32 2005 on lucifer.nerdfest.org X-Virus-Status: Clean X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at gnome.org X-BeenThere: gnome-hackers@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Sender: gnome-hackers-bounces@gnome.org Errors-To: gnome-hackers-bounces@gnome.org X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at gnome.org Cc: gnome-hackers@gnome.org Subject: Re: G2.12 Prerelease Tour X-BeenThere: gnome-hackers-readonly@gnome.org Reply-To: gnome-hackers@gnome.org List-Id: Read-only copy of gnome-hackers List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 31 Jul 2005 11:09:22 -0000 Hey Davyd, On Sat, 2005-07-30 at 12:08 +0800, Davyd Madeley wrote: > I haven't yet announced it on my blog. I want to make sure that I > haven't said anything that is wrong, or left anything out. > > http://www.gnome.org/~davyd/gnome-2-12/ > > I am currently missing Epiphany screenshots, as I can't seem to get any > of that stuff working. If someone wants to send me raw screenshots in > the same theme and font sizes, I can add them in. Good stuff. Here's a couple of comments: "The new Evolution [has] the ability to do inline media playing" I'd like to know how that was implemented, and where, so if anyone has pointers. Control Center's About me: You should rather have some imaginary person's details there, unless you want the /. crowd to call you at home... "These cursors themes will instant apply with GTK+ 2.8." Why does the dialog say the contrary? Is that a bug in the dialog? "a movie trailer playing inside Firefox" You could change that to s/Firefox/Epiphany/ as it's the default browser in GNOME, without bothering taking a new screenshot: it will look exactly the same ;) "Nautilus now offers drag and drop capabilities from audio CDs" Wasn't that there for ages in the cdda: gnome-vfs method? "audio CD copying has been added to Nautilus' CD burning functionality." CD copying was added, not just audio CD copying. "Evince can (or will soon) handle DVI, and TIFF files, as well as OpenOffice.org Impress and Microsoft Powerpoint presentations." The Impress and PPT support is still being discussed, you'd rather not mention them, or say that they are being developed, but this sentence will probably confuse people as to what's available right now. Cheers --- Bastien Nocera _______________________________________________ gnome-hackers mailing list gnome-hackers@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/gnome-hackers From gnome-hackers-bounces@gnome.org Sun Jul 31 09:04:26 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: gnome-hackers-readonly@gnome.org Delivered-To: gnome-hackers-readonly@gnome.org Received: from localhost (unknown [127.0.0.1]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4BE3A3B06EC; Sun, 31 Jul 2005 09:04:26 -0400 (EDT) Received: from menubar.gnome.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (menubar.gnome.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 11959-01; Sun, 31 Jul 2005 09:04:24 -0400 (EDT) Received: from menubar.gnome.org (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A924D3B0660; Sun, 31 Jul 2005 09:04:24 -0400 (EDT) X-Original-To: gnome-hackers@gnome.org Delivered-To: gnome-hackers@gnome.org Received: from localhost (unknown [127.0.0.1]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 642A13B0899 for ; Sun, 31 Jul 2005 09:04:22 -0400 (EDT) Received: from menubar.gnome.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (menubar.gnome.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 11943-02 for ; Sun, 31 Jul 2005 09:04:19 -0400 (EDT) Received: from amsfep20-int.chello.nl (amsfep12-int.chello.nl [213.46.243.17]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BD67E3B06EC for ; Sun, 31 Jul 2005 09:04:18 -0400 (EDT) Received: from bkor.dhs.org ([213.46.206.67]) by amsfep20-int.chello.nl (InterMail vM.6.01.04.04 201-2131-118-104-20050224) with ESMTP id <20050731130406.HLYW2457.amsfep20-int.chello.nl@bkor.dhs.org>; Sun, 31 Jul 2005 15:04:06 +0200 Received: by bkor.dhs.org (Postfix, from userid 501) id 48F2221236B; Sun, 31 Jul 2005 15:04:05 +0200 (CEST) Date: Sun, 31 Jul 2005 15:04:04 +0200 From: Olav Vitters To: gnome-hackers@gnome.org Message-ID: <20050731130404.GE9127@bkor.dhs.org> References: <1122696538.5750.7.camel@frobisher.madeley.id.au> <1122808437.30343.50.camel@wyatt.hadess.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <1122808437.30343.50.camel@wyatt.hadess.net> User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.9i X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at gnome.org X-BeenThere: gnome-hackers@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Sender: gnome-hackers-bounces@gnome.org Errors-To: gnome-hackers-bounces@gnome.org X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at gnome.org Cc: Davyd Madeley Subject: Re: G2.12 Prerelease Tour X-BeenThere: gnome-hackers-readonly@gnome.org Reply-To: gnome-hackers@gnome.org List-Id: Read-only copy of gnome-hackers List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 31 Jul 2005 13:04:26 -0000 On Sun, Jul 31, 2005 at 12:13:57PM +0100, Bastien Nocera wrote: > "These cursors themes will instant apply with GTK+ 2.8." > Why does the dialog say the contrary? Is that a bug in the dialog? This has been fixed in bug 312070. -- Regards, Olav _______________________________________________ gnome-hackers mailing list gnome-hackers@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/gnome-hackers From gnome-hackers-bounces@gnome.org Sat Jul 30 16:06:32 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: gnome-hackers-readonly@gnome.org Delivered-To: gnome-hackers-readonly@gnome.org Received: from localhost (unknown [127.0.0.1]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CACFD3B12EE; Sat, 30 Jul 2005 16:06:32 -0400 (EDT) Received: from menubar.gnome.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (menubar.gnome.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 10907-03; Sat, 30 Jul 2005 16:06:30 -0400 (EDT) Received: from menubar.gnome.org (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1E9503B13BC; Sat, 30 Jul 2005 16:06:30 -0400 (EDT) X-Original-To: gnome-hackers@gnome.org Delivered-To: gnome-hackers@gnome.org Received: from localhost (unknown [127.0.0.1]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3FCD93B11CA for ; Sat, 30 Jul 2005 11:34:06 -0400 (EDT) Received: from menubar.gnome.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (menubar.gnome.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 23472-07 for ; Sat, 30 Jul 2005 11:34:03 -0400 (EDT) Received: from peabody.ximian.com (peabody.ximian.com [130.57.169.10]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D2E393B0D98 for ; Sat, 30 Jul 2005 11:34:02 -0400 (EDT) Received: (qmail 2094 invoked from network); 30 Jul 2005 15:34:02 -0000 Received: from localhost (HELO phantasy) (127.0.0.1) by localhost with SMTP; 30 Jul 2005 15:34:02 -0000 From: Robert Love To: Davyd Madeley In-Reply-To: <1122696538.5750.7.camel@frobisher.madeley.id.au> References: <1122696538.5750.7.camel@frobisher.madeley.id.au> Content-Type: text/plain Date: Sat, 30 Jul 2005 11:33:57 -0400 Message-Id: <1122737637.7128.30.camel@phantasy> Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Evolution 2.2.1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at gnome.org X-Mailman-Approved-At: Sat, 30 Jul 2005 16:06:26 -0400 X-BeenThere: gnome-hackers@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Sender: gnome-hackers-bounces@gnome.org Errors-To: gnome-hackers-bounces@gnome.org X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at gnome.org X-Mailman-Approved-At: Wed, 03 Aug 2005 09:35:56 -0400 Cc: gnome-hackers@gnome.org Subject: Re: G2.12 Prerelease Tour X-BeenThere: gnome-hackers-readonly@gnome.org Reply-To: gnome-hackers@gnome.org List-Id: Read-only copy of gnome-hackers List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 30 Jul 2005 20:06:33 -0000 On Sat, 2005-07-30 at 12:08 +0800, Davyd Madeley wrote: > I haven't yet announced it on my blog. I want to make sure that I > haven't said anything that is wrong, or left anything out. Under Panel & Applets, s/is now offers/now offers/ Well done, old chap. Robert Love _______________________________________________ gnome-hackers mailing list gnome-hackers@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/gnome-hackers From gnome-hackers-bounces@gnome.org Sun Jul 3 17:18:07 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: gnome-hackers-readonly@gnome.org Delivered-To: gnome-hackers-readonly@gnome.org Received: from localhost (unknown [127.0.0.1]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 07FF93B0D40; Sun, 3 Jul 2005 17:18:07 -0400 (EDT) Received: from menubar.gnome.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (menubar.gnome.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 05027-04; Sun, 3 Jul 2005 17:18:05 -0400 (EDT) Received: from menubar.gnome.org (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1F3023B0D3E; Sun, 3 Jul 2005 17:18:05 -0400 (EDT) X-Original-To: gnome-hackers@gnome.org Delivered-To: gnome-hackers@gnome.org Received: from localhost (unknown [127.0.0.1]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id EFF343B069E for ; Sat, 2 Jul 2005 21:19:11 -0400 (EDT) Received: from menubar.gnome.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (menubar.gnome.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 30165-10 for ; Sat, 2 Jul 2005 21:19:08 -0400 (EDT) Received: from smtp106.mail.sc5.yahoo.com (smtp106.mail.sc5.yahoo.com [66.163.169.226]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with SMTP id D3AF83B066B for ; Sat, 2 Jul 2005 21:19:07 -0400 (EDT) Received: (qmail 77997 invoked from network); 3 Jul 2005 01:18:48 -0000 DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; h=Received:Subject:From:To:In-Reply-To:References:Content-Type:Date:Message-Id:Mime-Version:X-Mailer; b=35eyjCctBZPTHx0hpsk6k2wKm3VgB0wWFB+EvQCiJdoZFhkPynK0NIeSXpgZ2EgbIm7l8P0bsiLx1SGXziuiR2eGrUGX/UKz+M3xCjg5fAR6i8uCBC3+SSTMm8s/Pnv/oYhMrhLQFFuenVz/gSJno8smsfuZqDROlsmptXYvKNY= ; Received: from unknown (HELO ?192.168.1.101?) (bigbandit2004@24.182.57.192 with plain) by smtp106.mail.sc5.yahoo.com with SMTP; 3 Jul 2005 01:18:47 -0000 From: Joe Jackson To: gnome-hackers@gnome.org In-Reply-To: <20050703000528.4BAC16CC2B6@window.gnome.org> References: <20050703000528.4BAC16CC2B6@window.gnome.org> Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="=-VuVjTKzpyVD+W41VjKGR" Date: Sat, 02 Jul 2005 18:18:48 -0700 Message-Id: <1120353528.22051.0.camel@localhost.localdomain> Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Evolution 2.2.1.1 X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at gnome.org X-Mailman-Approved-At: Sun, 03 Jul 2005 17:18:04 -0400 X-BeenThere: gnome-hackers@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Sender: gnome-hackers-bounces@gnome.org Errors-To: gnome-hackers-bounces@gnome.org X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at gnome.org X-Mailman-Approved-At: Fri, 08 Jul 2005 08:17:56 -0400 Cc: Subject: Re: gnome-icon-theme 2.11.4 X-BeenThere: gnome-hackers-readonly@gnome.org Reply-To: gnome-hackers@gnome.org List-Id: Read-only copy of gnome-hackers List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 03 Jul 2005 21:18:07 -0000 --=-VuVjTKzpyVD+W41VjKGR Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="=-m1asz/X5qT9FiwcKuNxx" --=-m1asz/X5qT9FiwcKuNxx Content-Type: text/plain Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit The locations for the Icons do not exist. R, Joe Jackson --=-m1asz/X5qT9FiwcKuNxx Content-Type: text/html; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit The locations for the Icons do not exist.
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Joe Jackson --=-m1asz/X5qT9FiwcKuNxx-- --=-VuVjTKzpyVD+W41VjKGR Content-Disposition: inline Content-Description: Forwarded message - gnome-icon-theme 2.11.4 Content-Type: message/rfc822 X-Apparently-To: bigbandit2004@yahoo.com via 206.190.38.24; Sat, 02 Jul 2005 17:05:34 -0700 X-Originating-IP: [209.132.176.177] Return-Path: Authentication-Results: mta176.mail.mud.yahoo.com from=widget.gnome.org; domainkeys=neutral (no sig) Received: from 209.132.176.177 (EHLO menubar.gnome.org) (209.132.176.177) by mta176.mail.mud.yahoo.com with SMTP; Sat, 02 Jul 2005 17:05:34 -0700 Received: from localhost (unknown [127.0.0.1]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BFCC83B07C9; Sat, 2 Jul 2005 20:05:33 -0400 (EDT) Received: from menubar.gnome.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (menubar.gnome.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 26839-09; Sat, 2 Jul 2005 20:05:33 -0400 (EDT) Received: from menubar.gnome.org (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 118523B085E; Sat, 2 Jul 2005 20:05:32 -0400 (EDT) X-Original-To: ftp-release-list@gnome.org Delivered-To: ftp-release-list@gnome.org Received: from localhost (unknown [127.0.0.1]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 04C6E3B069C for ; Sat, 2 Jul 2005 20:05:30 -0400 (EDT) Received: from menubar.gnome.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (menubar.gnome.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 26829-06 for ; Sat, 2 Jul 2005 20:05:28 -0400 (EDT) Received: from window.gnome.org (window.gnome.org [209.132.176.176]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 89D0E3B077A for ; Sat, 2 Jul 2005 20:05:28 -0400 (EDT) Received: by window.gnome.org (Postfix, from userid 5047) id 4BAC16CC2B6; Sat, 2 Jul 2005 20:05:28 -0400 (EDT) From: Rodney Dawes To: FTP Releases Message-Id: <20050703000528.4BAC16CC2B6@window.gnome.org> Date: Sat, 2 Jul 2005 20:05:28 -0400 (EDT) X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at gnome.org Subject: gnome-icon-theme 2.11.4 X-BeenThere: ftp-release-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: gnome-hackers@gnome.org List-Id: "FTP upload notifications for packagers, the release team and insane users" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Sender: ftp-release-list-bounces@gnome.org Errors-To: ftp-release-list-bounces@gnome.org X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at gnome.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Module: gnome-icon-theme Version: 2.11.4 Uploaded by: Rodney Dawes http://ftp.gnome.org/pub/GNOME/sources/gnome-icon-theme/2.11/gnome-icon-theme-2.11.4.tar.gz md5sum: fa96d144d47334d58f40778cc25f9fed size: 3.3M http://ftp.gnome.org/pub/GNOME/sources/gnome-icon-theme/2.11/gnome-icon-theme-2.11.4.tar.bz2 md5sum: a7c5bf804b8d064142cb51f3609cf786 size: 3.0M -- An RSS 2.0 feed of ftp-release-list is available at: http://ftp.gnome.org/pub/GNOME/LATEST.xml _______________________________________________ ftp-release-list mailing list ftp-release-list@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/ftp-release-list --=-VuVjTKzpyVD+W41VjKGR Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline _______________________________________________ gnome-hackers mailing list gnome-hackers@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/gnome-hackers --=-VuVjTKzpyVD+W41VjKGR-- From gnome-hackers-bounces@gnome.org Sun Jul 10 02:19:04 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: gnome-hackers-readonly@gnome.org Delivered-To: gnome-hackers-readonly@gnome.org Received: from localhost (unknown [127.0.0.1]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E04973B08D1; Sun, 10 Jul 2005 02:19:03 -0400 (EDT) Received: from menubar.gnome.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (menubar.gnome.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 17208-04; Sun, 10 Jul 2005 02:19:02 -0400 (EDT) Received: from menubar.gnome.org (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 204883B0A87; Sun, 10 Jul 2005 02:19:02 -0400 (EDT) X-Original-To: gnome-hackers@gnome.org Delivered-To: gnome-hackers@gnome.org Received: from localhost (unknown [127.0.0.1]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0E76D3B08D1 for ; Sun, 10 Jul 2005 02:18:57 -0400 (EDT) Received: from menubar.gnome.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (menubar.gnome.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 17208-03 for ; Sun, 10 Jul 2005 02:18:55 -0400 (EDT) Received: from black.golder.org (black.golder.org [81.6.249.35]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 78C733B076C for ; Sun, 10 Jul 2005 02:18:54 -0400 (EDT) Received: from localhost (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by black.golder.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B86AD57F8; Sun, 10 Jul 2005 07:18:52 +0100 (BST) Received: from black.golder.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (black.golder.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 09245-09; Sun, 10 Jul 2005 07:18:45 +0100 (BST) Received: from chai (p116-raspknMT1.C.csloxinfo.net [203.172.58.116]) by black.golder.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id EEF4B4145; Sun, 10 Jul 2005 07:18:42 +0100 (BST) From: Ross Golder To: Joe Jackson In-Reply-To: <1120353528.22051.0.camel@localhost.localdomain> References: <20050703000528.4BAC16CC2B6@window.gnome.org> <1120353528.22051.0.camel@localhost.localdomain> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Date: Sun, 10 Jul 2005 13:18:41 +0700 Message-Id: <1120976322.8903.4.camel@localhost> Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Evolution 2.2.1.1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at golder.org X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at gnome.org X-BeenThere: gnome-hackers@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Sender: gnome-hackers-bounces@gnome.org Errors-To: gnome-hackers-bounces@gnome.org X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at gnome.org Cc: gnome-hackers@gnome.org Subject: Re: gnome-icon-theme 2.11.4 X-BeenThere: gnome-hackers-readonly@gnome.org Reply-To: gnome-hackers@gnome.org List-Id: Read-only copy of gnome-hackers List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 10 Jul 2005 06:19:04 -0000 On ส., 2005-07-02 at 18:18 -0700, Joe Jackson wrote: > The locations for the Icons do not exist. > R, > Joe Jackson They do now. There was a problem with ftp.gnome.org syncing it's contents from master.gnome.org around the time you e-mailled. Resolved now. -- Ross > email message attachment, "Forwarded message - gnome-icon-theme > 2.11.4" > On ส., 2005-07-02 at 18:18 -0700, Joe Jackson wrote: > > Module: gnome-icon-theme > > Version: 2.11.4 > > Uploaded by: Rodney Dawes > > > > http://ftp.gnome.org/pub/GNOME/sources/gnome-icon-theme/2.11/gnome-icon-theme-2.11.4.tar.gz > > md5sum: fa96d144d47334d58f40778cc25f9fed > > size: 3.3M > > > > http://ftp.gnome.org/pub/GNOME/sources/gnome-icon-theme/2.11/gnome-icon-theme-2.11.4.tar.bz2 > > md5sum: a7c5bf804b8d064142cb51f3609cf786 > > size: 3.0M > > > _______________________________________________ > gnome-hackers mailing list > gnome-hackers@gnome.org > http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/gnome-hackers _______________________________________________ gnome-hackers mailing list gnome-hackers@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/gnome-hackers From gnome-hackers-bounces@gnome.org Fri Jul 15 10:05:24 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: gnome-hackers-readonly@gnome.org Delivered-To: gnome-hackers-readonly@gnome.org Received: from localhost (unknown [127.0.0.1]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D63373B15B8; Fri, 15 Jul 2005 10:05:24 -0400 (EDT) Received: from menubar.gnome.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (menubar.gnome.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 30591-02; Fri, 15 Jul 2005 10:05:22 -0400 (EDT) Received: from menubar.gnome.org (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C03293B21AE; Fri, 15 Jul 2005 10:05:12 -0400 (EDT) X-Original-To: gnome-hackers@gnome.org Delivered-To: gnome-hackers@gnome.org Received: from localhost (unknown [127.0.0.1]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1A6AA3B2101 for ; Fri, 15 Jul 2005 10:05:08 -0400 (EDT) Received: from menubar.gnome.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (menubar.gnome.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 30442-08 for ; Fri, 15 Jul 2005 10:05:04 -0400 (EDT) Received: from brmea-mail-3.sun.com (brmea-mail-3.Sun.COM [192.18.98.34]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 534E13B21A9 for ; Fri, 15 Jul 2005 10:05:02 -0400 (EDT) Received: from phys-gadget-1 ([129.156.85.171]) by brmea-mail-3.sun.com (8.12.10/8.12.9) with ESMTP id j6FE4xva027194 for ; Fri, 15 Jul 2005 08:05:01 -0600 (MDT) Received: from conversion-daemon.gadget-mail1.uk.sun.com by gadget-mail1.uk.sun.com (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.24 (built Dec 19 2003)) id <0IJO00C019SBA2@gadget-mail1.uk.sun.com> (original mail from Calum.Benson@Sun.COM) for gnome-hackers@gnome.org; Fri, 15 Jul 2005 15:05:00 +0100 (BST) Received: from cdelab89.cde.ireland.sun.com (cdelab89.Ireland.Sun.COM [129.156.226.189]) by gadget-mail1.uk.sun.com (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.24 (built Dec 19 2003)) with ESMTP id <0IJO007MX9SBPC@gadget-mail1.uk.sun.com>; Fri, 15 Jul 2005 15:05:00 +0100 (BST) Date: Fri, 15 Jul 2005 15:04:48 +0100 From: Calum Benson In-reply-to: <1121403906.5803.21.camel@localhost> To: gnome-hackers@gnome.org Message-id: <1121436239.16437.77.camel@cdelab89.cde.ireland.sun.com> Organization: Sun Microsytems Ireland Ltd. MIME-version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Ximian Evolution 1.4.6.338 Content-type: text/plain Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT References: <1121403906.5803.21.camel@localhost> X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at gnome.org X-BeenThere: gnome-hackers@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Sender: gnome-hackers-bounces@gnome.org Errors-To: gnome-hackers-bounces@gnome.org X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at gnome.org Cc: "devel-announce-list@gnome.org" , GNOME Desktop Subject: Re: Heads-up: overwrite confirmation for GtkFileChooser X-BeenThere: gnome-hackers-readonly@gnome.org Reply-To: gnome-hackers@gnome.org List-Id: Read-only copy of gnome-hackers List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 15 Jul 2005 14:05:25 -0000 On Fri, 2005-07-15 at 06:05, Federico Mena Quintero wrote: > > http://primates.ximian.com/~federico/news-2005-07.html#14 Cool, needs a little HIG love though :) - Alerts shouldn't have any titlebar text - Bold text should be in 'newspaper headline' style, so "File '%s' Already Exists" (with no trailing punctuation) would be shorter and more appropriate - "Replace Existing File" (should be book title case) could just be "Replace" - It's not immediately clear to me what "Select Another File" (should also be book title case) does... select another file for what? The more standard "Cancel" would probably be clear enough, IMHO (although that could be mis-interpreted as cancelling the whole Save operation, so a better term would still be useful). (Oh, I see some of this is already covered in the bug report; have added the stuff that isn't.) Cheeri, Calum. -- CALUM BENSON, Usability Engineer Sun Microsystems Ireland mailto:calum.benson@sun.com Java Desktop System Group http://ie.sun.com +353 1 819 9771 Any opinions are personal and not necessarily those of Sun Microsystems _______________________________________________ gnome-hackers mailing list gnome-hackers@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/gnome-hackers From gnome-hackers-bounces@gnome.org Fri Jul 15 10:08:07 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: gnome-hackers-readonly@gnome.org Delivered-To: gnome-hackers-readonly@gnome.org Received: from localhost (unknown [127.0.0.1]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D601A3B15B8; Fri, 15 Jul 2005 10:08:07 -0400 (EDT) Received: from menubar.gnome.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (menubar.gnome.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 30873-02; Fri, 15 Jul 2005 10:08:06 -0400 (EDT) Received: from menubar.gnome.org (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 34BBB3B21B0; Fri, 15 Jul 2005 10:07:47 -0400 (EDT) X-Original-To: gnome-hackers@gnome.org Delivered-To: gnome-hackers@gnome.org Received: from localhost (unknown [127.0.0.1]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7F28F3B21B2; Fri, 15 Jul 2005 10:07:12 -0400 (EDT) Received: from menubar.gnome.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (menubar.gnome.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 30762-01; Fri, 15 Jul 2005 10:07:10 -0400 (EDT) Received: from mx1.redhat.com (mx1.redhat.com [66.187.233.31]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5715F3B15B8; Fri, 15 Jul 2005 10:07:04 -0400 (EDT) Received: from int-mx1.corp.redhat.com (int-mx1.corp.redhat.com [172.16.52.254]) by mx1.redhat.com (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j6FE73ZS031983; Fri, 15 Jul 2005 10:07:03 -0400 Received: from pobox.surrey.redhat.com (pobox.surrey.redhat.com [172.16.10.17]) by int-mx1.corp.redhat.com (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id j6FE73V01399; Fri, 15 Jul 2005 10:07:03 -0400 Received: from bnocera.surrey.redhat.com (bnocera.surrey.redhat.com [172.16.10.53]) by pobox.surrey.redhat.com (8.12.8/8.12.8) with ESMTP id j6FE723N012080; Fri, 15 Jul 2005 15:07:02 +0100 From: Bastien Nocera To: Calum Benson In-Reply-To: <1121436239.16437.77.camel@cdelab89.cde.ireland.sun.com> References: <1121403906.5803.21.camel@localhost> <1121436239.16437.77.camel@cdelab89.cde.ireland.sun.com> Content-Type: text/plain Date: Fri, 15 Jul 2005 15:07:02 +0100 Message-Id: <1121436422.15255.20.camel@bnocera.surrey.redhat.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Evolution 2.0.2 (2.0.2-16) Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at gnome.org X-BeenThere: gnome-hackers@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Sender: gnome-hackers-bounces@gnome.org Errors-To: gnome-hackers-bounces@gnome.org X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at gnome.org Cc: GNOME Desktop , gnome-hackers@gnome.org, "devel-announce-list@gnome.org" Subject: Re: Heads-up: overwrite confirmation for GtkFileChooser X-BeenThere: gnome-hackers-readonly@gnome.org Reply-To: gnome-hackers@gnome.org List-Id: Read-only copy of gnome-hackers List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 15 Jul 2005 14:08:08 -0000 On Fri, 2005-07-15 at 15:04 +0100, Calum Benson wrote: > On Fri, 2005-07-15 at 06:05, Federico Mena Quintero wrote: > > > > > http://primates.ximian.com/~federico/news-2005-07.html#14 > > Cool, needs a little HIG love though :) > > - Alerts shouldn't have any titlebar text > - Bold text should be in 'newspaper headline' style, so "File '%s' > Already Exists" (with no trailing punctuation) would be shorter and more > appropriate > - "Replace Existing File" (should be book title case) could just be > "Replace" > - It's not immediately clear to me what "Select Another File" (should > also be book title case) does... select another file for what? The more > standard "Cancel" would probably be clear enough, IMHO (although that > could be mis-interpreted as cancelling the whole Save operation, so a > better term would still be useful). "Select Another File"? It's not another file we're looking for, but another filename. > (Oh, I see some of this is already covered in the bug report; have added > the stuff that isn't.) > > Cheeri, > Calum. > --- Bastien Nocera Hollywood? It's fucking 14 hours there, 14 hours back and two hours of kissing fucking cheeks. Fuck that. -- Richard Harris _______________________________________________ gnome-hackers mailing list gnome-hackers@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/gnome-hackers From gnome-hackers-bounces@gnome.org Fri Jul 15 10:12:27 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: gnome-hackers-readonly@gnome.org Delivered-To: gnome-hackers-readonly@gnome.org Received: from localhost (unknown [127.0.0.1]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D25323B21F4; Fri, 15 Jul 2005 10:12:27 -0400 (EDT) Received: from menubar.gnome.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (menubar.gnome.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 31567-02; Fri, 15 Jul 2005 10:12:25 -0400 (EDT) Received: from menubar.gnome.org (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B3CE23B21D3; Fri, 15 Jul 2005 10:11:52 -0400 (EDT) X-Original-To: gnome-hackers@gnome.org Delivered-To: gnome-hackers@gnome.org Received: from localhost (unknown [127.0.0.1]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id F3E113B218C for ; Fri, 15 Jul 2005 10:11:44 -0400 (EDT) Received: from menubar.gnome.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (menubar.gnome.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 31470-01 for ; Fri, 15 Jul 2005 10:11:42 -0400 (EDT) Received: from wproxy.gmail.com (wproxy.gmail.com [64.233.184.196]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 049413B21D1 for ; Fri, 15 Jul 2005 10:11:15 -0400 (EDT) Received: by wproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id 68so617032wra for ; Fri, 15 Jul 2005 07:11:14 -0700 (PDT) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:reply-to:to:subject:cc:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; b=mauxwx+ceZ+3bVRgE6LWlLB1deyFTBr+kI6LHMlDqBfW1uHKgQ8lVugxl2RihPgGtloQoU7gMM3O92hn6/0XDrNv3n0jpY5YuuGOw0NrSx3wsV8a9gNVPSqiE5KHfLyJpIMld9P2KPi2zGPELGQC+/XvzkS8Vf/wSZhdUmw3tjc= Received: by 10.54.2.3 with SMTP id 3mr687677wrb; Fri, 15 Jul 2005 07:11:14 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.54.48.50 with HTTP; Fri, 15 Jul 2005 07:11:14 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <2cb10c44050715071157a44cc7@mail.gmail.com> Date: Fri, 15 Jul 2005 10:11:14 -0400 From: Luis Villa To: Calum Benson In-Reply-To: <1121436239.16437.77.camel@cdelab89.cde.ireland.sun.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Disposition: inline References: <1121403906.5803.21.camel@localhost> <1121436239.16437.77.camel@cdelab89.cde.ireland.sun.com> X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at gnome.org X-BeenThere: gnome-hackers@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Sender: gnome-hackers-bounces@gnome.org Errors-To: gnome-hackers-bounces@gnome.org X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at gnome.org Cc: gnome-hackers@gnome.org, GNOME Desktop Subject: Re: Heads-up: overwrite confirmation for GtkFileChooser X-BeenThere: gnome-hackers-readonly@gnome.org Reply-To: gnome-hackers@gnome.org, Luis Villa List-Id: Read-only copy of gnome-hackers List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 15 Jul 2005 14:12:28 -0000 On 7/15/05, Calum Benson wrote: > On Fri, 2005-07-15 at 06:05, Federico Mena Quintero wrote: >=20 > > > > http://primates.ximian.com/~federico/news-2005-07.html#14 >=20 > Cool, needs a little HIG love though :) >=20 > - Alerts shouldn't have any titlebar text Is this, or is this not, an a11y problem? Luis _______________________________________________ gnome-hackers mailing list gnome-hackers@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/gnome-hackers From gnome-hackers-bounces@gnome.org Fri Jul 15 10:51:53 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: gnome-hackers-readonly@gnome.org Delivered-To: gnome-hackers-readonly@gnome.org Received: from localhost (unknown [127.0.0.1]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C53763B21DF; Fri, 15 Jul 2005 10:51:53 -0400 (EDT) Received: from menubar.gnome.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (menubar.gnome.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 03441-02; Fri, 15 Jul 2005 10:51:51 -0400 (EDT) Received: from menubar.gnome.org (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5C2593B21BA; Fri, 15 Jul 2005 10:51:41 -0400 (EDT) X-Original-To: gnome-hackers@gnome.org Delivered-To: gnome-hackers@gnome.org Received: from localhost (unknown [127.0.0.1]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5BAF73B2076 for ; Fri, 15 Jul 2005 10:51:35 -0400 (EDT) Received: from menubar.gnome.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (menubar.gnome.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 03328-05 for ; Fri, 15 Jul 2005 10:51:35 -0400 (EDT) Received: from brmea-mail-3.sun.com (brmea-mail-3.Sun.COM [192.18.98.34]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 963333B2195 for ; Fri, 15 Jul 2005 10:51:33 -0400 (EDT) Received: from phys-gadget-1 ([129.156.85.171]) by brmea-mail-3.sun.com (8.12.10/8.12.9) with ESMTP id j6FEm00m010613 for ; Fri, 15 Jul 2005 08:51:29 -0600 (MDT) Received: from conversion-daemon.gadget-mail1.uk.sun.com by gadget-mail1.uk.sun.com (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.24 (built Dec 19 2003)) id <0IJO00201BQAZE@gadget-mail1.uk.sun.com> (original mail from Calum.Benson@Sun.COM) for gnome-hackers@gnome.org; Fri, 15 Jul 2005 15:50:22 +0100 (BST) Received: from cdelab89.cde.ireland.sun.com (cdelab89.Ireland.Sun.COM [129.156.226.189]) by gadget-mail1.uk.sun.com (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.24 (built Dec 19 2003)) with ESMTP id <0IJO00E77BVYJO@gadget-mail1.uk.sun.com>; Fri, 15 Jul 2005 15:50:22 +0100 (BST) Date: Fri, 15 Jul 2005 15:50:13 +0100 From: Calum Benson In-reply-to: <2cb10c44050715071157a44cc7@mail.gmail.com> To: Luis Villa Message-id: <1121439009.16437.81.camel@cdelab89.cde.ireland.sun.com> Organization: Sun Microsytems Ireland Ltd. MIME-version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Ximian Evolution 1.4.6.338 Content-type: text/plain Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT References: <1121403906.5803.21.camel@localhost> <1121436239.16437.77.camel@cdelab89.cde.ireland.sun.com> <2cb10c44050715071157a44cc7@mail.gmail.com> X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at gnome.org X-BeenThere: gnome-hackers@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Sender: gnome-hackers-bounces@gnome.org Errors-To: gnome-hackers-bounces@gnome.org X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at gnome.org Cc: gnome-hackers@gnome.org, GNOME Desktop Subject: Re: Heads-up: overwrite confirmation for GtkFileChooser X-BeenThere: gnome-hackers-readonly@gnome.org Reply-To: gnome-hackers@gnome.org List-Id: Read-only copy of gnome-hackers List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 15 Jul 2005 14:51:54 -0000 On Fri, 2005-07-15 at 15:11, Luis Villa wrote: > > > - Alerts shouldn't have any titlebar text > > Is this, or is this not, an a11y problem? Open for discussion in bug #165132... I don't think it should be, because gnopernicus (IIRC) reads out the text of alerts as they become focused. (But I'm not sure what the current situation is with alerts when Alt-Tabbing through windows, for example.) Cheeri, Calum. -- CALUM BENSON, Usability Engineer Sun Microsystems Ireland mailto:calum.benson@sun.com Java Desktop System Group http://ie.sun.com +353 1 819 9771 Any opinions are personal and not necessarily those of Sun Microsystems _______________________________________________ gnome-hackers mailing list gnome-hackers@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/gnome-hackers From srittau@jroger.in-berlin.de Fri Jul 15 11:21:03 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: gnome-hackers-readonly@gnome.org Delivered-To: gnome-hackers-readonly@gnome.org Received: from localhost (unknown [127.0.0.1]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 763C23B226C for ; Fri, 15 Jul 2005 11:21:03 -0400 (EDT) Received: from menubar.gnome.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (menubar.gnome.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 06828-02 for ; Fri, 15 Jul 2005 11:21:00 -0400 (EDT) Received: from hirsch.in-berlin.de (hirsch.in-berlin.de [192.109.42.6]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D45FE3B2210 for ; Fri, 15 Jul 2005 11:20:03 -0400 (EDT) X-Envelope-From: srittau@jroger.in-berlin.de X-Envelope-To: Received: from hirsch.in-berlin.de (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by hirsch.in-berlin.de (8.13.3/8.13.3/Debian-8) with ESMTP id j6FEo2c4001154 for ; Fri, 15 Jul 2005 16:50:02 +0200 Received: (from uucp@localhost) by hirsch.in-berlin.de (8.13.3/8.13.3/Submit) with UUCP id j6FEo11t001149 for gnome-hackers-readonly@gnome.org; Fri, 15 Jul 2005 16:50:01 +0200 Received: from srittau by jroger.in-berlin.de with local (Exim 3.36 #1 (Debian)) id 1DtS4I-0002hB-00; Fri, 15 Jul 2005 17:25:38 +0200 Date: Fri, 15 Jul 2005 17:25:38 +0200 To: gnome-hackers-readonly@gnome.org, gnome-hackers@gnome.org Message-ID: <20050715152538.GA10219@jroger.in-berlin.de> Mail-Followup-To: gnome-hackers-readonly@gnome.org, gnome-hackers@gnome.org References: <1121436239.16437.77.camel@cdelab89.cde.ireland.sun.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <1121436239.16437.77.camel@cdelab89.cde.ireland.sun.com> User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.9i From: Sebastian Rittau X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at gnome.org Cc: Subject: Re: Heads-up: overwrite confirmation for GtkFileChooser X-BeenThere: gnome-hackers-readonly@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: gnome-hackers@gnome.org List-Id: Read-only copy of gnome-hackers List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 15 Jul 2005 15:21:03 -0000 On Fri, Jul 15, 2005 at 03:04:48PM +0100, Calum Benson wrote: > On Fri, 2005-07-15 at 06:05, Federico Mena Quintero wrote: > > > > > http://primates.ximian.com/~federico/news-2005-07.html#14 > > Cool, needs a little HIG love though :) One more thing: It seems that the GTK_STOCK_REFRESH stock item is misused to mean "Replace" here. I'm not sure that is a good idea. It's probably better to introduce a new stock item. - Sebastian From gnome-hackers-bounces@gnome.org Fri Jul 15 11:22:50 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: gnome-hackers-readonly@gnome.org Delivered-To: gnome-hackers-readonly@gnome.org Received: from localhost (unknown [127.0.0.1]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id EA4593B2215; Fri, 15 Jul 2005 11:22:49 -0400 (EDT) Received: from menubar.gnome.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (menubar.gnome.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 07135-09; Fri, 15 Jul 2005 11:22:47 -0400 (EDT) Received: from menubar.gnome.org (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id EF27F3B2224; Fri, 15 Jul 2005 11:21:09 -0400 (EDT) X-Original-To: gnome-hackers@gnome.org Delivered-To: gnome-hackers@gnome.org Received: from localhost (unknown [127.0.0.1]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6C80C3B2210 for ; Fri, 15 Jul 2005 11:21:07 -0400 (EDT) Received: from menubar.gnome.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (menubar.gnome.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 06834-01 for ; Fri, 15 Jul 2005 11:21:00 -0400 (EDT) Received: from hirsch.in-berlin.de (hirsch.in-berlin.de [192.109.42.6]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D46AA3B2224 for ; Fri, 15 Jul 2005 11:20:03 -0400 (EDT) X-Envelope-From: srittau@jroger.in-berlin.de X-Envelope-To: Received: from hirsch.in-berlin.de (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by hirsch.in-berlin.de (8.13.3/8.13.3/Debian-8) with ESMTP id j6FEo2LJ001170 for ; Fri, 15 Jul 2005 16:50:02 +0200 Received: (from uucp@localhost) by hirsch.in-berlin.de (8.13.3/8.13.3/Submit) with UUCP id j6FEo2j3001169 for gnome-hackers@gnome.org; Fri, 15 Jul 2005 16:50:02 +0200 Received: from srittau by jroger.in-berlin.de with local (Exim 3.36 #1 (Debian)) id 1DtS4I-0002hB-00; Fri, 15 Jul 2005 17:25:38 +0200 Date: Fri, 15 Jul 2005 17:25:38 +0200 To: gnome-hackers-readonly@gnome.org, gnome-hackers@gnome.org Message-ID: <20050715152538.GA10219@jroger.in-berlin.de> Mail-Followup-To: gnome-hackers-readonly@gnome.org, gnome-hackers@gnome.org References: <1121436239.16437.77.camel@cdelab89.cde.ireland.sun.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <1121436239.16437.77.camel@cdelab89.cde.ireland.sun.com> User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.9i From: Sebastian Rittau X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at gnome.org X-BeenThere: gnome-hackers@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Sender: gnome-hackers-bounces@gnome.org Errors-To: gnome-hackers-bounces@gnome.org X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at gnome.org Cc: Subject: Re: Heads-up: overwrite confirmation for GtkFileChooser X-BeenThere: gnome-hackers-readonly@gnome.org Reply-To: gnome-hackers@gnome.org List-Id: Read-only copy of gnome-hackers List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 15 Jul 2005 15:22:50 -0000 On Fri, Jul 15, 2005 at 03:04:48PM +0100, Calum Benson wrote: > On Fri, 2005-07-15 at 06:05, Federico Mena Quintero wrote: > > > > > http://primates.ximian.com/~federico/news-2005-07.html#14 > > Cool, needs a little HIG love though :) One more thing: It seems that the GTK_STOCK_REFRESH stock item is misused to mean "Replace" here. I'm not sure that is a good idea. It's probably better to introduce a new stock item. - Sebastian _______________________________________________ gnome-hackers mailing list gnome-hackers@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/gnome-hackers From gnome-hackers-bounces@gnome.org Fri Jul 15 11:24:59 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: gnome-hackers-readonly@gnome.org Delivered-To: gnome-hackers-readonly@gnome.org Received: from localhost (unknown [127.0.0.1]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7DA063B2211; Fri, 15 Jul 2005 11:24:59 -0400 (EDT) Received: from menubar.gnome.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (menubar.gnome.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 07751-04; Fri, 15 Jul 2005 11:24:57 -0400 (EDT) Received: from menubar.gnome.org (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id AAD2F3B2213; Fri, 15 Jul 2005 11:24:50 -0400 (EDT) X-Original-To: gnome-hackers@gnome.org Delivered-To: gnome-hackers@gnome.org Received: from localhost (unknown [127.0.0.1]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id F0C363B15D0 for ; Fri, 15 Jul 2005 11:24:45 -0400 (EDT) Received: from menubar.gnome.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (menubar.gnome.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 07690-03 for ; Fri, 15 Jul 2005 11:24:43 -0400 (EDT) Received: from brmea-mail-4.sun.com (brmea-mail-4.Sun.COM [192.18.98.36]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E29603B2215 for ; Fri, 15 Jul 2005 11:24:35 -0400 (EDT) Received: from phys-gadget-1 ([129.156.85.171]) by brmea-mail-4.sun.com (8.12.10/8.12.9) with ESMTP id j6FFOYr7005886 for ; Fri, 15 Jul 2005 09:24:35 -0600 (MDT) Received: from conversion-daemon.gadget-mail1.uk.sun.com by gadget-mail1.uk.sun.com (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.24 (built Dec 19 2003)) id <0IJO00301DETID@gadget-mail1.uk.sun.com> (original mail from Calum.Benson@Sun.COM) for gnome-hackers@gnome.org; Fri, 15 Jul 2005 16:24:34 +0100 (BST) Received: from dhcp-edub03-237-211.Ireland.Sun.COM (dhcp-edub03-237-211.Ireland.Sun.COM [129.156.237.211]) by gadget-mail1.uk.sun.com (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.24 (built Dec 19 2003)) with ESMTPA id <0IJO00EAODGXJO@gadget-mail1.uk.sun.com>; Fri, 15 Jul 2005 16:24:33 +0100 (BST) Date: Fri, 15 Jul 2005 16:24:30 +0100 From: Calum Benson In-reply-to: <1121439009.16437.81.camel@cdelab89.cde.ireland.sun.com> To: Luis Villa Message-id: <1121441071.8414.12.camel@localhost.localdomain> Organization: Sun Microsystems Ireland Ltd. MIME-version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Evolution 2.3.5.1 Content-type: text/plain Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT References: <1121403906.5803.21.camel@localhost> <1121436239.16437.77.camel@cdelab89.cde.ireland.sun.com> <2cb10c44050715071157a44cc7@mail.gmail.com> <1121439009.16437.81.camel@cdelab89.cde.ireland.sun.com> X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at gnome.org X-BeenThere: gnome-hackers@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Sender: gnome-hackers-bounces@gnome.org Errors-To: gnome-hackers-bounces@gnome.org X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at gnome.org Cc: gnome-hackers@gnome.org, GNOME Desktop Subject: Re: Heads-up: overwrite confirmation for GtkFileChooser X-BeenThere: gnome-hackers-readonly@gnome.org Reply-To: gnome-hackers@gnome.org List-Id: Read-only copy of gnome-hackers List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 15 Jul 2005 15:24:59 -0000 On Fri, 2005-07-15 at 15:50 +0100, Calum Benson wrote: > On Fri, 2005-07-15 at 15:11, Luis Villa wrote: > > > > > - Alerts shouldn't have any titlebar text > > > > Is this, or is this not, an a11y problem? > > Open for discussion in bug #165132... I don't think it should be, > because gnopernicus (IIRC) reads out the text of alerts as they become > focused. (But I'm not sure what the current situation is with alerts > when Alt-Tabbing through windows, for example.) FWIW I've just had a chat with Bill about this, and we're satisfied that there are no significant accessibility issues for alerts provided their accessible role is ROLE_ALERT (which should be true of GtkMessageDialogs by default, but won't be of hand-crafted ones), and they don't appear in the window/alt-tab list (which should be true of the vast majority). Bill thinks we probably shouldn't actually explicitly forbid the use of titles in alerts, though, primarily for cases where either of the above may not be true... but we can follow that up in http://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=165132 . Cheeri, Calum. -- CALUM BENSON, Usability Engineer Sun Microsystems Ireland mailto:calum.benson@sun.com Java Desktop System Group http://ie.sun.com +353 1 819 9771 Any opinions are personal and not necessarily those of Sun Microsystems _______________________________________________ gnome-hackers mailing list gnome-hackers@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/gnome-hackers From Calum.Benson@Sun.COM Fri Jul 15 13:04:36 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: gnome-hackers-readonly@gnome.org Delivered-To: gnome-hackers-readonly@gnome.org Received: from localhost (unknown [127.0.0.1]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 989B53B2288 for ; Fri, 15 Jul 2005 13:04:36 -0400 (EDT) Received: from menubar.gnome.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (menubar.gnome.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 17664-06 for ; Fri, 15 Jul 2005 13:04:33 -0400 (EDT) Received: from brmea-mail-3.sun.com (brmea-mail-3.Sun.COM [192.18.98.34]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 391393B2247 for ; Fri, 15 Jul 2005 13:04:33 -0400 (EDT) Received: from phys-gadget-1 ([129.156.85.171]) by brmea-mail-3.sun.com (8.12.10/8.12.9) with ESMTP id j6FH4WvU026380 for ; Fri, 15 Jul 2005 11:04:32 -0600 (MDT) Received: from conversion-daemon.gadget-mail1.uk.sun.com by gadget-mail1.uk.sun.com (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.24 (built Dec 19 2003)) id <0IJO00101HWCLX@gadget-mail1.uk.sun.com> (original mail from Calum.Benson@Sun.COM) for gnome-hackers-readonly@gnome.org; Fri, 15 Jul 2005 18:04:32 +0100 (BST) Received: from dhcp-edub03-237-211.Ireland.Sun.COM (dhcp-edub03-237-211.Ireland.Sun.COM [129.156.237.211]) by gadget-mail1.uk.sun.com (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.24 (built Dec 19 2003)) with ESMTPA id <0IJO00EROI3JZ1@gadget-mail1.uk.sun.com>; Fri, 15 Jul 2005 18:04:32 +0100 (BST) Date: Fri, 15 Jul 2005 18:04:28 +0100 From: Calum Benson In-reply-to: <20050715152538.GA10219@jroger.in-berlin.de> To: Sebastian Rittau Message-id: <1121447068.8929.13.camel@localhost.localdomain> Organization: Sun Microsystems Ireland Ltd. MIME-version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Evolution 2.3.5.1 Content-type: text/plain Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT References: <1121436239.16437.77.camel@cdelab89.cde.ireland.sun.com> <20050715152538.GA10219@jroger.in-berlin.de> X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at gnome.org Cc: gnome-hackers-readonly@gnome.org, gnome-hackers@gnome.org Subject: Re: Heads-up: overwrite confirmation for GtkFileChooser X-BeenThere: gnome-hackers-readonly@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: gnome-hackers@gnome.org List-Id: Read-only copy of gnome-hackers List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 15 Jul 2005 17:04:36 -0000 On Fri, 2005-07-15 at 17:25 +0200, Sebastian Rittau wrote: > On Fri, Jul 15, 2005 at 03:04:48PM +0100, Calum Benson wrote: > > On Fri, 2005-07-15 at 06:05, Federico Mena Quintero wrote: > > > > > > > > http://primates.ximian.com/~federico/news-2005-07.html#14 > > > > Cool, needs a little HIG love though :) > > One more thing: It seems that the GTK_STOCK_REFRESH stock item is misused > to mean "Replace" here. I'm not sure that is a good idea. It's probably > better to introduce a new stock item. Oh yeah... I mentioned in my bug report comment that it might be fine just to use the 'Save' icon instead, as that's what clicking the button will do, after all. Cheeri, Calum. -- CALUM BENSON, Usability Engineer Sun Microsystems Ireland mailto:calum.benson@sun.com Java Desktop System Group http://ie.sun.com +353 1 819 9771 Any opinions are personal and not necessarily those of Sun Microsystems From gnome-hackers-bounces@gnome.org Fri Jul 15 13:04:45 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: gnome-hackers-readonly@gnome.org Delivered-To: gnome-hackers-readonly@gnome.org Received: from localhost (unknown [127.0.0.1]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2ED093B228E; Fri, 15 Jul 2005 13:04:45 -0400 (EDT) Received: from menubar.gnome.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (menubar.gnome.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 17787-01; Fri, 15 Jul 2005 13:04:43 -0400 (EDT) Received: from menubar.gnome.org (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1B2D23B20FE; Fri, 15 Jul 2005 13:04:41 -0400 (EDT) X-Original-To: gnome-hackers@gnome.org Delivered-To: gnome-hackers@gnome.org Received: from localhost (unknown [127.0.0.1]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E9CBD3B2247 for ; Fri, 15 Jul 2005 13:04:37 -0400 (EDT) Received: from menubar.gnome.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (menubar.gnome.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 17712-03 for ; Fri, 15 Jul 2005 13:04:34 -0400 (EDT) Received: from brmea-mail-3.sun.com (brmea-mail-3.Sun.COM [192.18.98.34]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8E4A23B2284 for ; Fri, 15 Jul 2005 13:04:33 -0400 (EDT) Received: from phys-gadget-1 ([129.156.85.171]) by brmea-mail-3.sun.com (8.12.10/8.12.9) with ESMTP id j6FH4WvW026380 for ; Fri, 15 Jul 2005 11:04:33 -0600 (MDT) Received: from conversion-daemon.gadget-mail1.uk.sun.com by gadget-mail1.uk.sun.com (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.24 (built Dec 19 2003)) id <0IJO00101HWCLX@gadget-mail1.uk.sun.com> (original mail from Calum.Benson@Sun.COM) for gnome-hackers@gnome.org; Fri, 15 Jul 2005 18:04:32 +0100 (BST) Received: from dhcp-edub03-237-211.Ireland.Sun.COM (dhcp-edub03-237-211.Ireland.Sun.COM [129.156.237.211]) by gadget-mail1.uk.sun.com (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.24 (built Dec 19 2003)) with ESMTPA id <0IJO00EROI3JZ1@gadget-mail1.uk.sun.com>; Fri, 15 Jul 2005 18:04:32 +0100 (BST) Date: Fri, 15 Jul 2005 18:04:28 +0100 From: Calum Benson In-reply-to: <20050715152538.GA10219@jroger.in-berlin.de> To: Sebastian Rittau Message-id: <1121447068.8929.13.camel@localhost.localdomain> Organization: Sun Microsystems Ireland Ltd. MIME-version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Evolution 2.3.5.1 Content-type: text/plain Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT References: <1121436239.16437.77.camel@cdelab89.cde.ireland.sun.com> <20050715152538.GA10219@jroger.in-berlin.de> X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at gnome.org X-BeenThere: gnome-hackers@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Sender: gnome-hackers-bounces@gnome.org Errors-To: gnome-hackers-bounces@gnome.org X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at gnome.org Cc: gnome-hackers-readonly@gnome.org, gnome-hackers@gnome.org Subject: Re: Heads-up: overwrite confirmation for GtkFileChooser X-BeenThere: gnome-hackers-readonly@gnome.org Reply-To: gnome-hackers@gnome.org List-Id: Read-only copy of gnome-hackers List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 15 Jul 2005 17:04:45 -0000 On Fri, 2005-07-15 at 17:25 +0200, Sebastian Rittau wrote: > On Fri, Jul 15, 2005 at 03:04:48PM +0100, Calum Benson wrote: > > On Fri, 2005-07-15 at 06:05, Federico Mena Quintero wrote: > > > > > > > > http://primates.ximian.com/~federico/news-2005-07.html#14 > > > > Cool, needs a little HIG love though :) > > One more thing: It seems that the GTK_STOCK_REFRESH stock item is misused > to mean "Replace" here. I'm not sure that is a good idea. It's probably > better to introduce a new stock item. Oh yeah... I mentioned in my bug report comment that it might be fine just to use the 'Save' icon instead, as that's what clicking the button will do, after all. Cheeri, Calum. -- CALUM BENSON, Usability Engineer Sun Microsystems Ireland mailto:calum.benson@sun.com Java Desktop System Group http://ie.sun.com +353 1 819 9771 Any opinions are personal and not necessarily those of Sun Microsystems _______________________________________________ gnome-hackers mailing list gnome-hackers@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/gnome-hackers From gnome-hackers-bounces@gnome.org Fri Jul 15 14:11:41 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: gnome-hackers-readonly@gnome.org Delivered-To: gnome-hackers-readonly@gnome.org Received: from localhost (unknown [127.0.0.1]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2AF0C3B15E8; Fri, 15 Jul 2005 14:11:41 -0400 (EDT) Received: from menubar.gnome.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (menubar.gnome.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 24351-08; Fri, 15 Jul 2005 14:11:39 -0400 (EDT) Received: from menubar.gnome.org (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 894903B159F; Fri, 15 Jul 2005 14:11:39 -0400 (EDT) X-Original-To: gnome-hackers@gnome.org Delivered-To: gnome-hackers@gnome.org Received: from localhost (unknown [127.0.0.1]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 133CD3B15E8 for ; Fri, 15 Jul 2005 14:11:38 -0400 (EDT) Received: from menubar.gnome.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (menubar.gnome.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 24327-08 for ; Fri, 15 Jul 2005 14:11:36 -0400 (EDT) Received: from peabody.ximian.com (peabody.ximian.com [130.57.169.10]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 63CE93B2040 for ; Fri, 15 Jul 2005 14:11:34 -0400 (EDT) Received: (qmail 15730 invoked from network); 15 Jul 2005 18:11:33 -0000 Received: from outbound.ximian.com (HELO ?10.0.0.4?) (130.57.170.250) by peabody.ximian.com with RC4-MD5 encrypted SMTP; 15 Jul 2005 18:11:33 -0000 From: Federico Mena Quintero To: Sebastian Rittau In-Reply-To: <20050715152538.GA10219@jroger.in-berlin.de> References: <1121436239.16437.77.camel@cdelab89.cde.ireland.sun.com> <20050715152538.GA10219@jroger.in-berlin.de> Content-Type: text/plain Date: Fri, 15 Jul 2005 13:10:44 -0500 Message-Id: <1121451044.1982.34.camel@localhost> Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Evolution 2.0.4 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at gnome.org X-BeenThere: gnome-hackers@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Sender: gnome-hackers-bounces@gnome.org Errors-To: gnome-hackers-bounces@gnome.org X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at gnome.org Cc: gnome-hackers@gnome.org Subject: Re: Heads-up: overwrite confirmation for GtkFileChooser X-BeenThere: gnome-hackers-readonly@gnome.org Reply-To: gnome-hackers@gnome.org List-Id: Read-only copy of gnome-hackers List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 15 Jul 2005 18:11:41 -0000 On Fri, 2005-07-15 at 17:25 +0200, Sebastian Rittau wrote: > One more thing: It seems that the GTK_STOCK_REFRESH stock item is misused > to mean "Replace" here. I'm not sure that is a good idea. It's probably > better to introduce a new stock item. Changed it to GTK_STOCK_SAVE_AS, which is a pencil writing on a floppy. Federico _______________________________________________ gnome-hackers mailing list gnome-hackers@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/gnome-hackers From federico@ximian.com Fri Jul 15 14:14:05 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: gnome-hackers-readonly@gnome.org Delivered-To: gnome-hackers-readonly@gnome.org Received: from localhost (unknown [127.0.0.1]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2BB913B159F for ; Fri, 15 Jul 2005 14:14:05 -0400 (EDT) Received: from menubar.gnome.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (menubar.gnome.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 24671-08 for ; Fri, 15 Jul 2005 14:14:03 -0400 (EDT) Received: from peabody.ximian.com (peabody.ximian.com [130.57.169.10]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id AA40D3B20E9 for ; Fri, 15 Jul 2005 14:14:02 -0400 (EDT) Received: (qmail 15734 invoked from network); 15 Jul 2005 18:14:01 -0000 Received: from outbound.ximian.com (HELO ?10.0.0.4?) (130.57.170.250) by peabody.ximian.com with RC4-MD5 encrypted SMTP; 15 Jul 2005 18:14:01 -0000 From: Federico Mena Quintero To: Calum Benson In-Reply-To: <1121447068.8929.13.camel@localhost.localdomain> References: <1121436239.16437.77.camel@cdelab89.cde.ireland.sun.com> <20050715152538.GA10219@jroger.in-berlin.de> <1121447068.8929.13.camel@localhost.localdomain> Content-Type: text/plain Date: Fri, 15 Jul 2005 13:13:12 -0500 Message-Id: <1121451192.1982.36.camel@localhost> Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Evolution 2.0.4 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at gnome.org Cc: Sebastian Rittau , gnome-hackers-readonly@gnome.org, gnome-hackers@gnome.org Subject: Re: Heads-up: overwrite confirmation for GtkFileChooser X-BeenThere: gnome-hackers-readonly@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: gnome-hackers@gnome.org List-Id: Read-only copy of gnome-hackers List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 15 Jul 2005 18:14:05 -0000 On Fri, 2005-07-15 at 18:04 +0100, Calum Benson wrote: > Oh yeah... I mentioned in my bug report comment that it might be fine > just to use the 'Save' icon instead, as that's what clicking the button > will do, after all. BTW, I forgot to thank the people who know the HIG by heart and were able to point out issues in the dialog :) So, thanks. Federico From gnome-hackers-bounces@gnome.org Fri Jul 15 14:14:15 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: gnome-hackers-readonly@gnome.org Delivered-To: gnome-hackers-readonly@gnome.org Received: from localhost (unknown [127.0.0.1]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CBF303B159F; Fri, 15 Jul 2005 14:14:15 -0400 (EDT) Received: from menubar.gnome.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (menubar.gnome.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 24769-01; Fri, 15 Jul 2005 14:14:13 -0400 (EDT) Received: from menubar.gnome.org (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E08373B20E9; Fri, 15 Jul 2005 14:14:11 -0400 (EDT) X-Original-To: gnome-hackers@gnome.org Delivered-To: gnome-hackers@gnome.org Received: from localhost (unknown [127.0.0.1]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 420903B0E90 for ; Fri, 15 Jul 2005 14:14:06 -0400 (EDT) Received: from menubar.gnome.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (menubar.gnome.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 24703-04 for ; Fri, 15 Jul 2005 14:14:04 -0400 (EDT) Received: from peabody.ximian.com (peabody.ximian.com [130.57.169.10]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id AA7F33B2160 for ; Fri, 15 Jul 2005 14:14:02 -0400 (EDT) Received: (qmail 15734 invoked from network); 15 Jul 2005 18:14:01 -0000 Received: from outbound.ximian.com (HELO ?10.0.0.4?) (130.57.170.250) by peabody.ximian.com with RC4-MD5 encrypted SMTP; 15 Jul 2005 18:14:01 -0000 From: Federico Mena Quintero To: Calum Benson In-Reply-To: <1121447068.8929.13.camel@localhost.localdomain> References: <1121436239.16437.77.camel@cdelab89.cde.ireland.sun.com> <20050715152538.GA10219@jroger.in-berlin.de> <1121447068.8929.13.camel@localhost.localdomain> Content-Type: text/plain Date: Fri, 15 Jul 2005 13:13:12 -0500 Message-Id: <1121451192.1982.36.camel@localhost> Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Evolution 2.0.4 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at gnome.org X-BeenThere: gnome-hackers@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Sender: gnome-hackers-bounces@gnome.org Errors-To: gnome-hackers-bounces@gnome.org X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at gnome.org Cc: Sebastian Rittau , gnome-hackers-readonly@gnome.org, gnome-hackers@gnome.org Subject: Re: Heads-up: overwrite confirmation for GtkFileChooser X-BeenThere: gnome-hackers-readonly@gnome.org Reply-To: gnome-hackers@gnome.org List-Id: Read-only copy of gnome-hackers List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 15 Jul 2005 18:14:16 -0000 On Fri, 2005-07-15 at 18:04 +0100, Calum Benson wrote: > Oh yeah... I mentioned in my bug report comment that it might be fine > just to use the 'Save' icon instead, as that's what clicking the button > will do, after all. BTW, I forgot to thank the people who know the HIG by heart and were able to point out issues in the dialog :) So, thanks. Federico _______________________________________________ gnome-hackers mailing list gnome-hackers@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/gnome-hackers From gnome-hackers-bounces@gnome.org Mon Jul 18 09:12:26 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: gnome-hackers-readonly@gnome.org Delivered-To: gnome-hackers-readonly@gnome.org Received: from localhost (unknown [127.0.0.1]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E0F4A3B138E; Mon, 18 Jul 2005 09:12:25 -0400 (EDT) Received: from menubar.gnome.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (menubar.gnome.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 09008-04; Mon, 18 Jul 2005 09:12:23 -0400 (EDT) Received: from menubar.gnome.org (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 68FF83B133C; Mon, 18 Jul 2005 09:12:07 -0400 (EDT) X-Original-To: gnome-hackers@gnome.org Delivered-To: gnome-hackers@gnome.org Received: from localhost (unknown [127.0.0.1]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CD1ED3B132B; Mon, 18 Jul 2005 09:11:58 -0400 (EDT) Received: from menubar.gnome.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (menubar.gnome.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 08826-10; Mon, 18 Jul 2005 09:11:57 -0400 (EDT) Received: from mx1.redhat.com (mx1.redhat.com [66.187.233.31]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B333B3B133C; Mon, 18 Jul 2005 09:11:56 -0400 (EDT) Received: from int-mx1.corp.redhat.com (int-mx1.corp.redhat.com [172.16.52.254]) by mx1.redhat.com (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j6IDBttb007224; Mon, 18 Jul 2005 09:11:56 -0400 Received: from lacrosse.corp.redhat.com (lacrosse.corp.redhat.com [172.16.52.154]) by int-mx1.corp.redhat.com (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id j6IDBoV27250; Mon, 18 Jul 2005 09:11:50 -0400 Received: from golem.boston.redhat.com (golem.boston.redhat.com [172.16.80.24]) by lacrosse.corp.redhat.com (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id j6IDBos31561; Mon, 18 Jul 2005 09:11:50 -0400 From: Matthias Clasen To: gnome-hackers@gnome.org In-Reply-To: <1121460878.10155.3.camel@golem.boston.redhat.com> References: <1121460878.10155.3.camel@golem.boston.redhat.com> Content-Type: text/plain Date: Mon, 18 Jul 2005 09:18:17 -0400 Message-Id: <1121692697.15157.0.camel@golem.boston.redhat.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Evolution 2.2.2 (2.2.2-11.fc5) Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at gnome.org X-BeenThere: gnome-hackers@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Sender: gnome-hackers-bounces@gnome.org Errors-To: gnome-hackers-bounces@gnome.org X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at gnome.org Cc: gnome-announce-list@gnome.org, gtk-devel-list@gnome.org, gtk-app-devel-list@gnome.org, gtk-list@gnome.org Subject: Re: GTK+ 2.7.3 released X-BeenThere: gnome-hackers-readonly@gnome.org Reply-To: gnome-hackers@gnome.org List-Id: Read-only copy of gnome-hackers List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 18 Jul 2005 13:12:26 -0000 On Fri, 2005-07-15 at 16:54 -0400, Matthias Clasen wrote: > GTK+ 2.7.3 is now available for download at: > > ftp://ftp.gtk.org/pub/gtk/v2.7/ > > gtk+-2.7.3.tar.bz2 md5sum: f4b4df474bd8bfdd5764f9025b6907f6 > gtk+-2.7.3.tar.gz md5sum: 80df68e53050efe305366ae952107309 > > > This is the fourth development release loading up to GTK+ 2.8. > I should have mentioned that GTK+ 2.7.3 depends on cvs Cairo. Hopefully there will be a new Cairo release in the next few days. Matthias _______________________________________________ gnome-hackers mailing list gnome-hackers@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/gnome-hackers From gnome-hackers-bounces@gnome.org Tue Jul 12 17:15:39 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: gnome-hackers-readonly@gnome.org Delivered-To: gnome-hackers-readonly@gnome.org Received: from localhost (unknown [127.0.0.1]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D86193B07ED; Tue, 12 Jul 2005 17:15:38 -0400 (EDT) Received: from menubar.gnome.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (menubar.gnome.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 31224-03; Tue, 12 Jul 2005 17:15:37 -0400 (EDT) Received: from menubar.gnome.org (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 44A3A3B0842; Tue, 12 Jul 2005 17:15:35 -0400 (EDT) X-Original-To: gnome-hackers@gnome.org Delivered-To: gnome-hackers@gnome.org Received: from localhost (unknown [127.0.0.1]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 16CC03B06C7 for ; Tue, 12 Jul 2005 10:29:59 -0400 (EDT) Received: from menubar.gnome.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (menubar.gnome.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 26842-03 for ; Tue, 12 Jul 2005 10:29:56 -0400 (EDT) Received: from wproxy.gmail.com (wproxy.gmail.com [64.233.184.198]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2D6743B0AA1 for ; Tue, 12 Jul 2005 10:29:56 -0400 (EDT) Received: by wproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id 37so567591wra for ; Tue, 12 Jul 2005 07:29:55 -0700 (PDT) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:reply-to:to:subject:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition; b=cuS+LaWNp6heTSJVlZT4REipmororNpMlfF2WpK9OD/oET/gX038gPrphoz76Iww9C0XP4hheLF/btW80lzxyX9LjL/igSHNuMFm8vVXW9UXD7dUTfmnfc81odyGpgBgS1qGeaqQ24BUkrEwCEfzea1D5ckvru6TdnwlnxzvOwI= Received: by 10.54.54.41 with SMTP id c41mr4424835wra; Tue, 12 Jul 2005 07:29:18 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.54.89.8 with HTTP; Tue, 12 Jul 2005 07:29:18 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <35fafc14050712072919d737ec@mail.gmail.com> Date: Tue, 12 Jul 2005 15:29:18 +0100 From: Iain * To: gnome-multimedia@gnome.org, gnome-announce-list@gnome.org, gnome-hackers@gnome.org, GStreamer Devel List Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Disposition: inline X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at gnome.org X-Mailman-Approved-At: Tue, 12 Jul 2005 17:15:33 -0400 X-BeenThere: gnome-hackers@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Sender: gnome-hackers-bounces@gnome.org Errors-To: gnome-hackers-bounces@gnome.org X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at gnome.org X-Mailman-Approved-At: Tue, 19 Jul 2005 08:07:35 -0400 Cc: Subject: Marlin 0.8 - The Unix Philosophy is a Lie - Released X-BeenThere: gnome-hackers-readonly@gnome.org Reply-To: gnome-hackers@gnome.org, Iain * List-Id: Read-only copy of gnome-hackers List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 12 Jul 2005 21:15:39 -0000 ******************************************** Marlin 0.8 - The Unix Philosophy Is A Lie ******************************************** Yeah, so after a long time Too long some might say I've got round to making a new Marlin release. Marlin is a sample editor: http://marlin.sourceforge.net http://marlin.sourceforget.net/screenshots.html New stuff in this release: Well, basically, I was adding all this stuff And I hit some limitations So I stopped and decided to add some other stuff And I hit the same limitations I tried again But for a third time hit the limitations So I decided to fix them. This led to the whole core of how Marlin deals with samples in memory being rewritten, which it needed, as it hadn't been touched since like 2002 and it was a bit smelly and embarassing in places. This now means that: * Loading is faster * There is no limit on how large a sample you can load (besides how much disk space you have previously there was a limit of about 2Gb per process) * Code is better, smaller, faster... * Sample drawing code is faster Other cooler stuff * Zero crossing detection added to move and selection dialogs. * Crossfader was finished. * Looping now works faster and doesn't have a click * Markers can be moved around with the keyboard * Invert sample works * Recording works again * Overview bar moves page around via keyboard * Markers can be snapped to ticks * Play clipboard * Marker view can show other scales besides frames * A level ruler was writen for the left side of the sample view * A VZoomed sample can be scrolled around using the level ruler * Infinity signs are used in places. * Overview bar shows markers * Average values are displayed on the sample view. * Overview bar doesn't redraw everything constantly. * Added reverse sample. * Centre on cursor actually does what it says on the tin. * More things undo/redo now as well. See, I've been hard at work. Get it from here: http://prdownloads.sourceforge.net/marlin/marlin-0.8.tar.gz?download CVS is in cvs.gnome.org Bugs to bugzilla.gnome.org Till next time(year?) iainxox _______________________________________________ gnome-hackers mailing list gnome-hackers@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/gnome-hackers From gnome-hackers-bounces@gnome.org Sat Jul 16 03:45:59 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: gnome-hackers-readonly@gnome.org Delivered-To: gnome-hackers-readonly@gnome.org Received: from localhost (unknown [127.0.0.1]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8B62C3B0971; Sat, 16 Jul 2005 03:45:59 -0400 (EDT) Received: from menubar.gnome.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (menubar.gnome.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 06778-03; Sat, 16 Jul 2005 03:45:57 -0400 (EDT) Received: from menubar.gnome.org (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 460663B0A47; Sat, 16 Jul 2005 03:45:57 -0400 (EDT) X-Original-To: gnome-hackers@gnome.org Delivered-To: gnome-hackers@gnome.org Received: from localhost (unknown [127.0.0.1]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CD45A3B06C6 for ; Fri, 15 Jul 2005 18:41:07 -0400 (EDT) Received: from menubar.gnome.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (menubar.gnome.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 10430-02 for ; Fri, 15 Jul 2005 18:41:06 -0400 (EDT) Received: from mail.hal-pc.org (mail.hal-pc.org [206.180.145.133]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 656703B0B56 for ; Fri, 15 Jul 2005 18:41:03 -0400 (EDT) Received: from [151.213.186.133] (HELO [192.168.1.20]) by mail.hal-pc.org (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 4.2.1) with ESMTP id 181855627 for gnome-hackers@gnome.org; Fri, 15 Jul 2005 17:41:02 -0500 Message-ID: <42D83B7E.2020808@hal-pc.org> Date: Fri, 15 Jul 2005 17:41:02 -0500 From: Donn Washburn User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; Linux i586; en-US;rv:1.4) Gecko/20030624 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: gnome-hackers@gnome.org References: <1121460878.10155.3.camel@golem.boston.redhat.com> In-Reply-To: <1121460878.10155.3.camel@golem.boston.redhat.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at gnome.org X-Mailman-Approved-At: Sat, 16 Jul 2005 03:45:55 -0400 X-BeenThere: gnome-hackers@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Sender: gnome-hackers-bounces@gnome.org Errors-To: gnome-hackers-bounces@gnome.org X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at gnome.org X-Mailman-Approved-At: Tue, 19 Jul 2005 08:07:35 -0400 Cc: Subject: Re: GTK+ 2.7.3 released X-BeenThere: gnome-hackers-readonly@gnome.org Reply-To: gnome-hackers@gnome.org List-Id: Read-only copy of gnome-hackers List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 16 Jul 2005 07:45:59 -0000 Compiled very cleanly in SuSE9.3 "make check" passed all parts Now will see what fails! Matthias Clasen wrote: > GTK+ 2.7.3 is now available for download at: > > ftp://ftp.gtk.org/pub/gtk/v2.7/ > > gtk+-2.7.3.tar.bz2 md5sum: f4b4df474bd8bfdd5764f9025b6907f6 > gtk+-2.7.3.tar.gz md5sum: 80df68e53050efe305366ae952107309 > > > This is the fourth development release loading up to GTK+ 2.8. > -- 73 de Donn Washburn Hpage: " http://www.hal-pc.org/~n5xwb " Ham Callsign N5XWB Email: " n5xwb@hal-pc.org " 307 Savoy St. HAMs: " n5xwb@arrl.net " Sugar Land, TX 77478 BMW MOA #: 4146 - Ambassador LL# 1.281.242.3256 " http://counter.li.org " #279316 _______________________________________________ gnome-hackers mailing list gnome-hackers@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/gnome-hackers From gnome-hackers-bounces@gnome.org Sat Jul 16 03:46:00 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: gnome-hackers-readonly@gnome.org Delivered-To: gnome-hackers-readonly@gnome.org Received: from localhost (unknown [127.0.0.1]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id F01173B0971; Sat, 16 Jul 2005 03:45:59 -0400 (EDT) Received: from menubar.gnome.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (menubar.gnome.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 06752-05; Sat, 16 Jul 2005 03:45:57 -0400 (EDT) Received: from menubar.gnome.org (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7778A3B0AC8; Sat, 16 Jul 2005 03:45:57 -0400 (EDT) X-Original-To: gnome-hackers@gnome.org Delivered-To: gnome-hackers@gnome.org Received: from localhost (unknown [127.0.0.1]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 781453B0B0F for ; Fri, 15 Jul 2005 21:22:14 -0400 (EDT) Received: from menubar.gnome.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (menubar.gnome.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 18868-10 for ; Fri, 15 Jul 2005 21:22:11 -0400 (EDT) Received: from rproxy.gmail.com (rproxy.gmail.com [64.233.170.197]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 214AB3B0735 for ; Fri, 15 Jul 2005 21:22:10 -0400 (EDT) Received: by rproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id a41so841897rng for ; Fri, 15 Jul 2005 18:22:09 -0700 (PDT) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:reply-to:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; b=Hr4TSIUTlQvb3fAPizC9tPKQfk7qtPpa9uEj1+0qNmg/pBAddQWnuCyGqstVJvpuUdvHpOFCtIHIiPLRopHiugLQmYVl+P/Ja4qJ2b0ZWWDkePEs/MGwX/26A+HIeSdoo3uN0i8NpzMZfmvSek1KvqFbDkmNZdR+gBWa7Ro+iYo= Received: by 10.38.74.33 with SMTP id w33mr90599rna; Fri, 15 Jul 2005 18:22:09 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.38.10.80 with HTTP; Fri, 15 Jul 2005 18:22:09 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <3e9035250507151822711056b1@mail.gmail.com> Date: Fri, 15 Jul 2005 21:22:09 -0400 From: Mike Emmel To: gnome-hackers@gnome.org In-Reply-To: <1121460878.10155.3.camel@golem.boston.redhat.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Disposition: inline References: <1121460878.10155.3.camel@golem.boston.redhat.com> X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at gnome.org X-Mailman-Approved-At: Sat, 16 Jul 2005 03:45:55 -0400 X-BeenThere: gnome-hackers@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Sender: gnome-hackers-bounces@gnome.org Errors-To: gnome-hackers-bounces@gnome.org X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at gnome.org X-Mailman-Approved-At: Tue, 19 Jul 2005 08:07:35 -0400 Cc: Subject: Re: GTK+ 2.7.3 released X-BeenThere: gnome-hackers-readonly@gnome.org Reply-To: gnome-hackers@gnome.org, Mike Emmel List-Id: Read-only copy of gnome-hackers List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 16 Jul 2005 07:46:00 -0000 Thanks I just finished upgrading the directfb backend to work with 2.7.2 this morning :) On 7/15/05, Matthias Clasen wrote: > GTK+ 2.7.3 is now available for download at: >=20 > ftp://ftp.gtk.org/pub/gtk/v2.7/ >=20 > gtk+-2.7.3.tar.bz2 md5sum: f4b4df474bd8bfdd5764f9025b6907f6 > gtk+-2.7.3.tar.gz md5sum: 80df68e53050efe305366ae952107309 >=20 >=20 > This is the fourth development release loading up to GTK+ 2.8. >=20 >=20 > Notes: >=20 > * This is unstable development release. There are certainly > plenty of bugs remaining to be found. This release should > not be used in production. >=20 > * Installing this version will overwrite your existing > copy of GTK+ 2.6. If you have problems, you'll need > to reinstall GTK+ 2.6.8. >=20 > * GTK+ 2.8 will be source and binary compatible with the GTK+ > 2.6.x series. The new API additions in GTK+ 2.7.x are > finalized at this point, and GTK+ 2.7.x should be considered > API frozen. Unless serious issues with the new APIs come up, > there will be no API changes between this release and the > 2.8.0 release. >=20 > * Remaining issues for GTK+ 2.8 can be found with following > bugzilla query: >=20 > http://bugzilla.gnome.org/buglist.cgi?product=3Dgtk% > 2b&target_milestone=3D2.8+API+Freeze&target_milestone=3D2.8 > +Freeze&bug_status=3DUNCONFIRMED&bug_status=3DNEW&bug_status=3DASSIGNED&b= ug_status=3DREOPENED >=20 > * Bugs should be reported to http://bugzilla.gnome.org. >=20 >=20 > What is GTK+ > =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D >=20 > GTK+ is a multi-platform toolkit for creating graphical user > interfaces. Offering a complete set of widgets, GTK+ is suitable for > projects ranging from small one-off tools to complete application > suites. >=20 > GTK+ has been designed from the ground up to support a range of > languages, not only C/C++. Using GTK+ from languages such as Perl and > Python (especially in combination with the Glade GUI builder) provides > an effective method of rapid application development. >=20 > GTK+ is free software and part of the GNU Project. However, the > licensing terms for GTK+, the GNU LGPL, allow it to be used by all > developers, including those developing proprietary software, without > any license fees or royalties. >=20 >=20 > Where to get more information about GTK+ > =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D >=20 > Information about GTK+ including links to documentation can be > found at: >=20 > http://www.gtk.org/ >=20 > An installation guide for GTK+ 2.x is found at: >=20 > http://developer.gnome.org/doc/API/2.4/gtk/gtk-building.html >=20 > Common questions: >=20 > http://developer.gnome.org/doc/API/2.4/gtk/gtk-question-index.html > http://www.gtk.org/faq/ >=20 >=20 > Overview of Changes from GTK+ 2.7.2 to GTK+ 2.7.3 > =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D > * Make sure that gtk_window_present() moves the window to the > current desktop [Elijah Newren] > * GtkFileChooser > - Add overwrite confirmation for SAVE mode [Federico Mena Quintero] > * GtkTreeView > - Add gtk_tree_view_get_visible_range() [Mikael Hallendal] > - Add gtk_tree_view_column_queue_resize() [Morten Welinder] > - Add gtk_tree_row_reference_get_model() [Stefan Kost] > - Make page up/down behave as in the text view [Owen Taylor] > - In typeahead search, allow Ctrl-G to move to the > next match. [Matt T. Proud] > - Interpret Ctrl-Backspace as "Move focus to parent [Kathy > Fernandes] > - Speed up gtk_tree_selection_selected_foreach [Kristian Rietveld] > * GtkTextView > - Make double-clicking between words select whitespace [Mike > Miller, Paolo Borelli] > - Show dragged text in drag icon [Kevin Duffus, Carlos > Garnacho Parro] > - Make invisible text work well enough to remove the > remove the warning about it being unsupported. [Matthias] > * GtkEntry > - Make double-clicking between words select whitespace [Matthias] > - Show dragged text in drag icon [Kevin Duffus, Carlos Garnacho Parro] > - Fix the sizing of the entry completion popup [Ross Burton, Kris] > * Win32 > - Build fixes [Tor Lillqvist] > - Fix handlink of Aiptek tablets [Robert =D6gren] > * Bug fixes [Kris, Jorn Baayen, Billy Biggs, Tomislav Jonjic, > Owen Taylor, Vincent Noel, Carlos Garnacho Parro, Mark McLoughlin. > Mikael Magnusson, Luis Villa, Brian Bober, Bernd Demian, Manish > Singh, Akira Tagoh, Barbie LeVille, Hans Oesterholt] > * Documentation improvements [Torsten Schoenfeld, Rodney Dawes, > Park Ji-In] > * New and updated translations (cs,es,et,he,hu,nb,nl,no,sk) >=20 >=20 > A list of all bugs fixed in this release can be found at > http://bugzilla.gnome.org/buglist.cgi?bug_id=3D165034,305582,305737,10122= 0,156657,309946,309860,161132,166379,66194,310047,310086,309137,167004,3102= 21,144480,310133,142063,309249,105252,169961,309997,160879,152850,309910 >=20 >=20 > 15 July, 2005 >=20 >=20 > _______________________________________________ > gtk-devel-list mailing list > gtk-devel-list@gnome.org > http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/gtk-devel-list > _______________________________________________ gnome-hackers mailing list gnome-hackers@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/gnome-hackers From gnome-hackers-bounces@gnome.org Tue Jul 19 15:09:35 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: gnome-hackers-readonly@gnome.org Delivered-To: gnome-hackers-readonly@gnome.org Received: from localhost (unknown [127.0.0.1]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E49B13B131C; Tue, 19 Jul 2005 15:09:35 -0400 (EDT) Received: from menubar.gnome.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (menubar.gnome.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 16502-08; Tue, 19 Jul 2005 15:09:32 -0400 (EDT) Received: from menubar.gnome.org (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5ED623B1275; Tue, 19 Jul 2005 15:09:32 -0400 (EDT) X-Original-To: gnome-hackers@gnome.org Delivered-To: gnome-hackers@gnome.org Received: from localhost (unknown [127.0.0.1]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7480E3B1275; Tue, 19 Jul 2005 15:09:27 -0400 (EDT) Received: from menubar.gnome.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (menubar.gnome.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 16481-09; Tue, 19 Jul 2005 15:09:25 -0400 (EDT) Received: from avet.kvota.net (unknown [147.91.15.39]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CDFAF3B1261; Tue, 19 Jul 2005 15:09:24 -0400 (EDT) Received: by avet.kvota.net (Postfix, from userid 1000) id 474947C53E; Tue, 19 Jul 2005 21:09:25 +0200 (CEST) To: desktop-devel-list@gnome.org From: danilo@gnome.org (=?utf-8?q?Danilo_=C5=A0egan?=) Mail-Followup-To: desktop-devel-list@gnome.org, gnome-hackers@gnome.org Date: Tue, 19 Jul 2005 21:09:25 +0200 Message-ID: <87fyua7guy.fsf@avet.kvota.net> User-Agent: Gnus/5.11 (Gnus v5.11) Emacs/21.3.50 (gnu/linux) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at gnome.org X-BeenThere: gnome-hackers@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Sender: gnome-hackers-bounces@gnome.org Errors-To: gnome-hackers-bounces@gnome.org X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at gnome.org Cc: gnome-hackers@gnome.org Subject: ANNOUNCEMENT: Gnome-Doc-Utils Migration Guide X-BeenThere: gnome-hackers-readonly@gnome.org Reply-To: gnome-hackers@gnome.org List-Id: Read-only copy of gnome-hackers List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 19 Jul 2005 19:09:36 -0000 Heya hackers, We've just written a guide to help you migrate your modules to gnome-doc-utils, which will immensly help both documentors and translators. Just head straight over to: http://live.gnome.org/GnomeDocUtilsMigrationHowTo The early winners are bug-buddy (which shaunm converted) and gnome-panel (rock on vuntz!). chpe has been working on enlightening the epiphany behind the scenes, and davyd is already convinced to make g-d-u do the work for gnome-applets. If you need any live help, you can find shaunm or danilo on IRC, but I'm sure other guys with experience will be glad to help as well :) (vuntz, chpe). Worthy of mention is that if you switch your module, you'll get doc translation statistics like those at: http://kvota.net/doc-l10n/by-modules.html (ok, they can be prettier, but that's not high priority yet :). Cheers, Danilo _______________________________________________ gnome-hackers mailing list gnome-hackers@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/gnome-hackers From gnome-hackers-bounces@gnome.org Fri Jul 29 00:42:01 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: gnome-hackers-readonly@gnome.org Delivered-To: gnome-hackers-readonly@gnome.org Received: from localhost (unknown [127.0.0.1]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C6D803B06D9; Fri, 29 Jul 2005 00:42:01 -0400 (EDT) Received: from menubar.gnome.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (menubar.gnome.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 11375-10; Fri, 29 Jul 2005 00:41:59 -0400 (EDT) Received: from menubar.gnome.org (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 10B8D3B1C62; Fri, 29 Jul 2005 00:41:59 -0400 (EDT) X-Original-To: gnome-hackers@gnome.org Delivered-To: gnome-hackers@gnome.org Received: from localhost (unknown [127.0.0.1]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id AC6DF3B06D9 for ; Fri, 29 Jul 2005 00:41:55 -0400 (EDT) Received: from menubar.gnome.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (menubar.gnome.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 11380-05 for ; Fri, 29 Jul 2005 00:41:53 -0400 (EDT) Received: from indy.ph.unimelb.edu.au (indy.ph.unimelb.edu.au [128.250.54.6]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with SMTP id D537C3B11A8 for ; Fri, 29 Jul 2005 00:41:51 -0400 (EDT) Received: (qmail 25299 invoked from network); 29 Jul 2005 04:30:55 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO seviorpc.ph.unimelb.edu.au) (128.250.50.6) by indy.ph.unimelb.edu.au with SMTP; 29 Jul 2005 04:30:55 -0000 From: Martin Sevior To: Christian Rose In-Reply-To: <1118610714.27184.1233.camel@stina.menthos.com> References: <42431.211.28.207.95.1118493946.squirrel@kiosk.ph.unimelb.edu.au> <20050611165251.GD8699@localhost.localdomain> <1118528004.27184.1149.camel@stina.menthos.com> <43187.211.28.207.95.1118542427.squirrel@kiosk1.ph.unimelb.edu.au> <1118610714.27184.1233.camel@stina.menthos.com> Content-Type: text/plain Organization: University of Melbourne Date: Fri, 29 Jul 2005 14:41:05 +1000 Message-Id: <1122612065.10303.509.camel@seviorpc> Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Evolution 2.2.2 (2.2.2-5) Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at gnome.org X-BeenThere: gnome-hackers@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Sender: gnome-hackers-bounces@gnome.org Errors-To: gnome-hackers-bounces@gnome.org X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at gnome.org Cc: gnome-sysadmin@gnome.org, gnome-hackers@gnome.org Subject: AbiWord-2.3.4 uploaded. X-BeenThere: gnome-hackers-readonly@gnome.org Reply-To: gnome-hackers@gnome.org, msevior@physics.unimelb.edu.au List-Id: Read-only copy of gnome-hackers List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 29 Jul 2005 04:42:02 -0000 Hi Christian and the rest of the gnome-sysadmin team. I've uploaded AbiWord-2.3.4 to the gnome ftp servers. I believe a development version of Gnumeric will be uploaded shortly. AbiWord, Gnumeric and I believe GNOME-DB will be proposed as the initial packages for the "productivity-set" of GNOME. Should further discussion take place on gnome-devel? Cheers Martin _______________________________________________ gnome-hackers mailing list gnome-hackers@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/gnome-hackers From gnome-hackers-bounces@gnome.org Fri Jul 29 02:32:15 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: gnome-hackers-readonly@gnome.org Delivered-To: gnome-hackers-readonly@gnome.org Received: from localhost (unknown [127.0.0.1]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 113EF3B0ABC; Fri, 29 Jul 2005 02:32:15 -0400 (EDT) Received: from menubar.gnome.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (menubar.gnome.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 18522-02; Fri, 29 Jul 2005 02:32:12 -0400 (EDT) Received: from menubar.gnome.org (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 242E83B066C; Fri, 29 Jul 2005 02:32:12 -0400 (EDT) X-Original-To: gnome-hackers@gnome.org Delivered-To: gnome-hackers@gnome.org Received: from localhost (unknown [127.0.0.1]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D69AA3B088C for ; Fri, 29 Jul 2005 02:32:08 -0400 (EDT) Received: from menubar.gnome.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (menubar.gnome.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 18394-10 for ; Fri, 29 Jul 2005 02:32:06 -0400 (EDT) Received: from indy.ph.unimelb.edu.au (indy.ph.unimelb.edu.au [128.250.54.6]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 96E213B066C for ; Fri, 29 Jul 2005 02:32:02 -0400 (EDT) Received: (qmail 3529 invoked from network); 29 Jul 2005 06:21:06 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO kiosk.ph.unimelb.edu.au) (128.250.54.43) by indy.ph.unimelb.edu.au with SMTP; 29 Jul 2005 06:21:06 -0000 Received: from 211.28.141.229 (SquirrelMail authenticated user msevior) by kiosk.ph.unimelb.edu.au with HTTP; Fri, 29 Jul 2005 16:32:01 +1000 (EST) Message-ID: <6190.211.28.141.229.1122618721.squirrel@kiosk.ph.unimelb.edu.au> In-Reply-To: <2cb10c4405072614493cf8efea@mail.gmail.com> References: <2cb10c4405072614493cf8efea@mail.gmail.com> Date: Fri, 29 Jul 2005 16:32:01 +1000 (EST) From: msevior@physics.unimelb.edu.au To: gnome-hackers@gnome.org, "Luis Villa" User-Agent: SquirrelMail/1.4.5 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain;charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at gnome.org X-BeenThere: gnome-hackers@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Sender: gnome-hackers-bounces@gnome.org Errors-To: gnome-hackers-bounces@gnome.org X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at gnome.org Cc: Desktop Devel , devel-announce-list@gnome.org Subject: Re: new modules for 2.12 X-BeenThere: gnome-hackers-readonly@gnome.org Reply-To: gnome-hackers@gnome.org List-Id: Read-only copy of gnome-hackers List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 29 Jul 2005 06:32:15 -0000 > The release team met last week, and we talked a bit about the new > module stuff. As usual, we tried to understand and reflect the > community consensus as reflected in d-d-l and other forums, with the > understanding that sometimes we have to, you know, go ahead and decide > ;) > > In: > * evince: It's clearly a great, very gnome-y app. We'd like to thank > the ggv and gpdf authors for all the work they've done over the years. > > * services-admin: is now fairly polished and the maintainer wants it > in, and no one has objected to that. > > * gnome-keyring-manager: underwent a lot of work after the last round > of objections, and has not been objected to in its new format. Not > getting releases very regularly, though; we need that to change or > we'll have to punt it to 2.14. > > Punted to 2.13/2.14 > * eggcups: this was pushed very late, and partially as a result there > is a lack of clarity and consensus here, particularly with regards to > the relationship of this to other pieces of the printing stack. We > look forward to those issues getting straightened out at the summit ;) > > * productivity/office suite: the discussions about where this would > fit, what the rules would be, etc., were never very conclusive; it > wasn't even clear whether or not this was our problem, so maybe it > isn't :) We'd love to see this stuff release on our schedule, and for > the folks involved including the heads of the various teams and the > heads of the various projects sit down and come to some conclusions. > Perhaps that'll happen at the summit too; if not, it needs to happen > somewhere else and obviously in time for 2.14. > HI Luis, The productivity/Office suite will contain AbiWord-2.4, Gnumeric-1.6 and probabally GNOME-db (I haven't had confirmation from Rodrigo yet but he has said that it would be ready previously and I only just asked him a few hours ago.) Martin > Luis (hoping this one isn't quite as second-guessed as the last one ;) > -- > devel-announce-list mailing list > devel-announce-list@gnome.org > http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/devel-announce-list > _______________________________________________ gnome-hackers mailing list gnome-hackers@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/gnome-hackers From gnome-hackers-bounces@gnome.org Fri Jul 29 04:21:55 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: gnome-hackers-readonly@gnome.org Delivered-To: gnome-hackers-readonly@gnome.org Received: from localhost (unknown [127.0.0.1]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BC8523B066B; Fri, 29 Jul 2005 04:21:55 -0400 (EDT) Received: from menubar.gnome.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (menubar.gnome.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 28294-09; Fri, 29 Jul 2005 04:21:53 -0400 (EDT) Received: from menubar.gnome.org (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id AD2AE3B0929; Fri, 29 Jul 2005 04:21:53 -0400 (EDT) X-Original-To: gnome-hackers@gnome.org Delivered-To: gnome-hackers@gnome.org Received: from localhost (unknown [127.0.0.1]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C0BDE3B1C5D; Fri, 29 Jul 2005 04:21:49 -0400 (EDT) Received: from menubar.gnome.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (menubar.gnome.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 28294-07; Fri, 29 Jul 2005 04:21:47 -0400 (EDT) Received: from jareth.dreamhost.com (jareth.dreamhost.com [66.33.198.201]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 222EC3B0BC7; Fri, 29 Jul 2005 04:21:47 -0400 (EDT) Received: from [192.168.1.100] (p5498C97F.dip.t-dialin.net [84.152.201.127]) by jareth.dreamhost.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5E6636B63D; Fri, 29 Jul 2005 01:21:44 -0700 (PDT) From: Murray Cumming To: msevior@physics.unimelb.edu.au In-Reply-To: <1122612065.10303.509.camel@seviorpc> References: <42431.211.28.207.95.1118493946.squirrel@kiosk.ph.unimelb.edu.au> <20050611165251.GD8699@localhost.localdomain> <1118528004.27184.1149.camel@stina.menthos.com> <43187.211.28.207.95.1118542427.squirrel@kiosk1.ph.unimelb.edu.au> <1118610714.27184.1233.camel@stina.menthos.com> <1122612065.10303.509.camel@seviorpc> Content-Type: text/plain Date: Fri, 29 Jul 2005 10:21:43 +0200 Message-Id: <1122625303.5074.27.camel@localhost.localdomain> Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Evolution 2.0.4 (2.0.4-4) Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at gnome.org X-BeenThere: gnome-hackers@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Sender: gnome-hackers-bounces@gnome.org Errors-To: gnome-hackers-bounces@gnome.org X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at gnome.org Cc: gnome-sysadmin , Gnome Hackers , Christian Rose Subject: Re: AbiWord-2.3.4 uploaded. X-BeenThere: gnome-hackers-readonly@gnome.org Reply-To: gnome-hackers@gnome.org List-Id: Read-only copy of gnome-hackers List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 29 Jul 2005 08:21:55 -0000 On Fri, 2005-07-29 at 14:41 +1000, Martin Sevior wrote: > Hi Christian and the rest of the gnome-sysadmin team. > > I've uploaded AbiWord-2.3.4 to the gnome ftp servers. I believe a > development version of Gnumeric will be uploaded shortly. > > AbiWord, Gnumeric and I believe GNOME-DB I assume that you mean "mergeant". > will be proposed as the initial > packages for the "productivity-set" of GNOME. Please remember that this will be a beta, non official, release set that just happens to (try to) follow the GNOME schedule. > Should further discussion take place on gnome-devel? d-d-l or release-team is probably more appropriate. -- Murray Cumming murrayc@murrayc.com www.murrayc.com www.openismus.com _______________________________________________ gnome-hackers mailing list gnome-hackers@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/gnome-hackers From gnome-hackers-bounces@gnome.org Fri Jul 29 04:43:41 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: gnome-hackers-readonly@gnome.org Delivered-To: gnome-hackers-readonly@gnome.org Received: from localhost (unknown [127.0.0.1]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BB9723B1CD8; Fri, 29 Jul 2005 04:43:40 -0400 (EDT) Received: from menubar.gnome.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (menubar.gnome.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 30401-07; Fri, 29 Jul 2005 04:43:38 -0400 (EDT) Received: from menubar.gnome.org (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BB8AF3B1CCD; Fri, 29 Jul 2005 04:43:30 -0400 (EDT) X-Original-To: gnome-hackers@gnome.org Delivered-To: gnome-hackers@gnome.org Received: from localhost (unknown [127.0.0.1]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6CCC83B1CBF for ; Fri, 29 Jul 2005 04:43:25 -0400 (EDT) Received: from menubar.gnome.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (menubar.gnome.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 30331-06 for ; Fri, 29 Jul 2005 04:43:25 -0400 (EDT) Received: from peabody.ximian.com (peabody.ximian.com [130.57.169.10]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1416F3B1C64 for ; Fri, 29 Jul 2005 04:43:22 -0400 (EDT) Received: (qmail 696 invoked from network); 29 Jul 2005 08:43:18 -0000 Received: from localhost (HELO ?164.99.120.141?) (127.0.0.1) by localhost with SMTP; 29 Jul 2005 08:43:18 -0000 From: Rodrigo Moya To: msevior@physics.unimelb.edu.au In-Reply-To: <6190.211.28.141.229.1122618721.squirrel@kiosk.ph.unimelb.edu.au> References: <2cb10c4405072614493cf8efea@mail.gmail.com> <6190.211.28.141.229.1122618721.squirrel@kiosk.ph.unimelb.edu.au> Content-Type: text/plain Date: Fri, 29 Jul 2005 10:41:42 +0200 Message-Id: <1122626502.9233.5.camel@formigal.home> Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Evolution 2.3.3 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at gnome.org X-BeenThere: gnome-hackers@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Sender: gnome-hackers-bounces@gnome.org Errors-To: gnome-hackers-bounces@gnome.org X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at gnome.org Cc: Luis Villa , Desktop Devel , gnome-hackers@gnome.org, devel-announce-list@gnome.org Subject: Re: new modules for 2.12 X-BeenThere: gnome-hackers-readonly@gnome.org Reply-To: gnome-hackers@gnome.org List-Id: Read-only copy of gnome-hackers List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 29 Jul 2005 08:43:41 -0000 On Fri, 2005-07-29 at 16:32 +1000, msevior@physics.unimelb.edu.au wrote: > > The release team met last week, and we talked a bit about the new > > module stuff. As usual, we tried to understand and reflect the > > community consensus as reflected in d-d-l and other forums, with the > > understanding that sometimes we have to, you know, go ahead and decide > > ;) > > > > In: > > * evince: It's clearly a great, very gnome-y app. We'd like to thank > > the ggv and gpdf authors for all the work they've done over the years. > > > > * services-admin: is now fairly polished and the maintainer wants it > > in, and no one has objected to that. > > > > * gnome-keyring-manager: underwent a lot of work after the last round > > of objections, and has not been objected to in its new format. Not > > getting releases very regularly, though; we need that to change or > > we'll have to punt it to 2.14. > > > > Punted to 2.13/2.14 > > * eggcups: this was pushed very late, and partially as a result there > > is a lack of clarity and consensus here, particularly with regards to > > the relationship of this to other pieces of the printing stack. We > > look forward to those issues getting straightened out at the summit ;) > > > > * productivity/office suite: the discussions about where this would > > fit, what the rules would be, etc., were never very conclusive; it > > wasn't even clear whether or not this was our problem, so maybe it > > isn't :) We'd love to see this stuff release on our schedule, and for > > the folks involved including the heads of the various teams and the > > heads of the various projects sit down and come to some conclusions. > > Perhaps that'll happen at the summit too; if not, it needs to happen > > somewhere else and obviously in time for 2.14. > > > > HI Luis, > The productivity/Office suite will contain AbiWord-2.4, > Gnumeric-1.6 and probabally GNOME-db (I haven't had confirmation > from Rodrigo yet but he has said that it would be ready previously > and I only just asked him a few hours ago.) > yes, gnome-db will be ready, we are about to freeze for releasing at gnome 2.12 time. -- Rodrigo Moya _______________________________________________ gnome-hackers mailing list gnome-hackers@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/gnome-hackers From gnome-hackers-bounces@gnome.org Sat Jul 30 00:09:18 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: gnome-hackers-readonly@gnome.org Delivered-To: gnome-hackers-readonly@gnome.org Received: from localhost (unknown [127.0.0.1]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1FCD73B12D1; Sat, 30 Jul 2005 00:09:18 -0400 (EDT) Received: from menubar.gnome.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (menubar.gnome.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 13504-08; Sat, 30 Jul 2005 00:09:16 -0400 (EDT) Received: from menubar.gnome.org (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3742E3B12C2; Sat, 30 Jul 2005 00:09:16 -0400 (EDT) X-Original-To: gnome-hackers@gnome.org Delivered-To: gnome-hackers@gnome.org Received: from localhost (unknown [127.0.0.1]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8EE0F3B12D8 for ; Sat, 30 Jul 2005 00:09:11 -0400 (EDT) Received: from menubar.gnome.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (menubar.gnome.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 13521-05 for ; Sat, 30 Jul 2005 00:09:08 -0400 (EDT) Received: from oracle.bridgewayconsulting.com.au (oracle.bridgewayconsulting.com.au [203.56.14.38]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 32D7A3B12C2 for ; Sat, 30 Jul 2005 00:09:08 -0400 (EDT) Received: from frobisher.madeley (cugglephone.madeley.id.au [203.56.15.217]) (using TLSv1 with cipher RC4-MD5 (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by oracle.bridgewayconsulting.com.au (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5CFC42E8004 for ; Sat, 30 Jul 2005 12:09:01 +0800 (WST) From: Davyd Madeley To: gnome-hackers@gnome.org Content-Type: text/plain Date: Sat, 30 Jul 2005 12:08:58 +0800 Message-Id: <1122696538.5750.7.camel@frobisher.madeley.id.au> Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Evolution 2.3.6 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at gnome.org X-BeenThere: gnome-hackers@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Sender: gnome-hackers-bounces@gnome.org Errors-To: gnome-hackers-bounces@gnome.org X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at gnome.org Cc: Subject: G2.12 Prerelease Tour X-BeenThere: gnome-hackers-readonly@gnome.org Reply-To: gnome-hackers@gnome.org List-Id: Read-only copy of gnome-hackers List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 30 Jul 2005 04:09:18 -0000 I haven't yet announced it on my blog. I want to make sure that I haven't said anything that is wrong, or left anything out. http://www.gnome.org/~davyd/gnome-2-12/ I am currently missing Epiphany screenshots, as I can't seem to get any of that stuff working. If someone wants to send me raw screenshots in the same theme and font sizes, I can add them in. --d -- Davyd Madeley http://www.davyd.id.au/ 08B0 341A 0B9B 08BB 2118 C060 2EDD BB4F 5191 6CDA _______________________________________________ gnome-hackers mailing list gnome-hackers@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/gnome-hackers From gnome-hackers-bounces@gnome.org Sat Jul 30 08:56:16 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: gnome-hackers-readonly@gnome.org Delivered-To: gnome-hackers-readonly@gnome.org Received: from localhost (unknown [127.0.0.1]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 822B03B13AD; Sat, 30 Jul 2005 08:56:16 -0400 (EDT) Received: from menubar.gnome.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (menubar.gnome.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 13098-10; Sat, 30 Jul 2005 08:56:14 -0400 (EDT) Received: from menubar.gnome.org (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BDD7F3B1398; Sat, 30 Jul 2005 08:56:14 -0400 (EDT) X-Original-To: gnome-hackers@gnome.org Delivered-To: gnome-hackers@gnome.org Received: from localhost (unknown [127.0.0.1]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 91C483B1398 for ; Sat, 30 Jul 2005 08:56:12 -0400 (EDT) Received: from menubar.gnome.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (menubar.gnome.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 13131-08 for ; Sat, 30 Jul 2005 08:56:10 -0400 (EDT) Received: from smtp.nildram.co.uk (smtp.nildram.co.uk [195.112.4.54]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3F39C3B13AF for ; Sat, 30 Jul 2005 08:56:10 -0400 (EDT) Received: from burtonini.com (althur.gotadsl.co.uk [84.12.135.175]) by smtp.nildram.co.uk (Postfix) with ESMTP id 942A1252C01 for ; Sat, 30 Jul 2005 13:56:06 +0100 (BST) Received: from 127.0.0.1 (ident=unknown) by burtonini.com with esmtp (masqmail 0.2.20) id 1Dyqsn-3qc-00 for ; Sat, 30 Jul 2005 13:56:05 +0100 From: Ross Burton To: gnome-hackers@gnome.org In-Reply-To: <1122696538.5750.7.camel@frobisher.madeley.id.au> References: <1122696538.5750.7.camel@frobisher.madeley.id.au> Content-Type: text/plain Date: Sat, 30 Jul 2005 13:56:03 +0100 Message-Id: <1122728163.22761.2.camel@localhost.localdomain> Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Evolution 2.2.1.1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at gnome.org X-BeenThere: gnome-hackers@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Sender: gnome-hackers-bounces@gnome.org Errors-To: gnome-hackers-bounces@gnome.org X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at gnome.org Cc: Subject: Re: G2.12 Prerelease Tour X-BeenThere: gnome-hackers-readonly@gnome.org Reply-To: gnome-hackers@gnome.org List-Id: Read-only copy of gnome-hackers List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 30 Jul 2005 12:56:16 -0000 On Sat, 2005-07-30 at 12:08 +0800, Davyd Madeley wrote: > I haven't yet announced it on my blog. I want to make sure that I > haven't said anything that is wrong, or left anything out. > > http://www.gnome.org/~davyd/gnome-2-12/ > > I am currently missing Epiphany screenshots, as I can't seem to get any > of that stuff working. If someone wants to send me raw screenshots in > the same theme and font sizes, I can add them in. You'll want to re-take the Sound Juicer screenshot, the UI has changed a little since that was taken. Ross -- Ross Burton mail: ross@burtonini.com jabber: ross@burtonini.com www: http://www.burtonini.com./ PGP Fingerprint: 1A21 F5B0 D8D0 CFE3 81D4 E25A 2D09 E447 D0B4 33DF _______________________________________________ gnome-hackers mailing list gnome-hackers@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/gnome-hackers From gnome-hackers-bounces@gnome.org Sun Jul 31 07:09:22 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: gnome-hackers-readonly@gnome.org Delivered-To: gnome-hackers-readonly@gnome.org Received: from localhost (unknown [127.0.0.1]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 03A863B06EC; Sun, 31 Jul 2005 07:09:22 -0400 (EDT) Received: from menubar.gnome.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (menubar.gnome.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 04870-01; Sun, 31 Jul 2005 07:09:20 -0400 (EDT) Received: from menubar.gnome.org (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 611D33B06DF; Sun, 31 Jul 2005 07:09:20 -0400 (EDT) X-Original-To: gnome-hackers@gnome.org Delivered-To: gnome-hackers@gnome.org Received: from localhost (unknown [127.0.0.1]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8F4753B068A for ; Sun, 31 Jul 2005 07:09:18 -0400 (EDT) Received: from menubar.gnome.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (menubar.gnome.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 04841-05 for ; Sun, 31 Jul 2005 07:09:17 -0400 (EDT) Received: from lucifer.nerdfest.org (lucifer.nerdfest.org [216.243.209.218]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9492B3B0011 for ; Sun, 31 Jul 2005 07:09:16 -0400 (EDT) Received: from [192.168.1.5] (cpc4-glfd1-4-0-cust97.glfd.cable.ntl.com [82.15.237.97]) (authenticated bits=0) by lucifer.nerdfest.org (8.13.1/8.13.1) with ESMTP id j6VB9AWj008695 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=RC4-MD5 bits=128 verify=NO); Sun, 31 Jul 2005 06:09:13 -0500 From: Bastien Nocera To: Davyd Madeley In-Reply-To: <1122696538.5750.7.camel@frobisher.madeley.id.au> References: <1122696538.5750.7.camel@frobisher.madeley.id.au> Content-Type: text/plain Date: Sun, 31 Jul 2005 12:13:57 +0100 Message-Id: <1122808437.30343.50.camel@wyatt.hadess.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Evolution 2.2.2 (2.2.2-5) Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Virus-Scanned: ClamAV 0.85.1/998/Sat Jul 30 19:09:32 2005 on lucifer.nerdfest.org X-Virus-Status: Clean X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at gnome.org X-BeenThere: gnome-hackers@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Sender: gnome-hackers-bounces@gnome.org Errors-To: gnome-hackers-bounces@gnome.org X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at gnome.org Cc: gnome-hackers@gnome.org Subject: Re: G2.12 Prerelease Tour X-BeenThere: gnome-hackers-readonly@gnome.org Reply-To: gnome-hackers@gnome.org List-Id: Read-only copy of gnome-hackers List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 31 Jul 2005 11:09:22 -0000 Hey Davyd, On Sat, 2005-07-30 at 12:08 +0800, Davyd Madeley wrote: > I haven't yet announced it on my blog. I want to make sure that I > haven't said anything that is wrong, or left anything out. > > http://www.gnome.org/~davyd/gnome-2-12/ > > I am currently missing Epiphany screenshots, as I can't seem to get any > of that stuff working. If someone wants to send me raw screenshots in > the same theme and font sizes, I can add them in. Good stuff. Here's a couple of comments: "The new Evolution [has] the ability to do inline media playing" I'd like to know how that was implemented, and where, so if anyone has pointers. Control Center's About me: You should rather have some imaginary person's details there, unless you want the /. crowd to call you at home... "These cursors themes will instant apply with GTK+ 2.8." Why does the dialog say the contrary? Is that a bug in the dialog? "a movie trailer playing inside Firefox" You could change that to s/Firefox/Epiphany/ as it's the default browser in GNOME, without bothering taking a new screenshot: it will look exactly the same ;) "Nautilus now offers drag and drop capabilities from audio CDs" Wasn't that there for ages in the cdda: gnome-vfs method? "audio CD copying has been added to Nautilus' CD burning functionality." CD copying was added, not just audio CD copying. "Evince can (or will soon) handle DVI, and TIFF files, as well as OpenOffice.org Impress and Microsoft Powerpoint presentations." The Impress and PPT support is still being discussed, you'd rather not mention them, or say that they are being developed, but this sentence will probably confuse people as to what's available right now. Cheers --- Bastien Nocera _______________________________________________ gnome-hackers mailing list gnome-hackers@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/gnome-hackers From gnome-hackers-bounces@gnome.org Sun Jul 31 09:04:26 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: gnome-hackers-readonly@gnome.org Delivered-To: gnome-hackers-readonly@gnome.org Received: from localhost (unknown [127.0.0.1]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4BE3A3B06EC; Sun, 31 Jul 2005 09:04:26 -0400 (EDT) Received: from menubar.gnome.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (menubar.gnome.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 11959-01; Sun, 31 Jul 2005 09:04:24 -0400 (EDT) Received: from menubar.gnome.org (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A924D3B0660; Sun, 31 Jul 2005 09:04:24 -0400 (EDT) X-Original-To: gnome-hackers@gnome.org Delivered-To: gnome-hackers@gnome.org Received: from localhost (unknown [127.0.0.1]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 642A13B0899 for ; Sun, 31 Jul 2005 09:04:22 -0400 (EDT) Received: from menubar.gnome.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (menubar.gnome.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 11943-02 for ; Sun, 31 Jul 2005 09:04:19 -0400 (EDT) Received: from amsfep20-int.chello.nl (amsfep12-int.chello.nl [213.46.243.17]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BD67E3B06EC for ; Sun, 31 Jul 2005 09:04:18 -0400 (EDT) Received: from bkor.dhs.org ([213.46.206.67]) by amsfep20-int.chello.nl (InterMail vM.6.01.04.04 201-2131-118-104-20050224) with ESMTP id <20050731130406.HLYW2457.amsfep20-int.chello.nl@bkor.dhs.org>; Sun, 31 Jul 2005 15:04:06 +0200 Received: by bkor.dhs.org (Postfix, from userid 501) id 48F2221236B; Sun, 31 Jul 2005 15:04:05 +0200 (CEST) Date: Sun, 31 Jul 2005 15:04:04 +0200 From: Olav Vitters To: gnome-hackers@gnome.org Message-ID: <20050731130404.GE9127@bkor.dhs.org> References: <1122696538.5750.7.camel@frobisher.madeley.id.au> <1122808437.30343.50.camel@wyatt.hadess.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <1122808437.30343.50.camel@wyatt.hadess.net> User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.9i X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at gnome.org X-BeenThere: gnome-hackers@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Sender: gnome-hackers-bounces@gnome.org Errors-To: gnome-hackers-bounces@gnome.org X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at gnome.org Cc: Davyd Madeley Subject: Re: G2.12 Prerelease Tour X-BeenThere: gnome-hackers-readonly@gnome.org Reply-To: gnome-hackers@gnome.org List-Id: Read-only copy of gnome-hackers List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 31 Jul 2005 13:04:26 -0000 On Sun, Jul 31, 2005 at 12:13:57PM +0100, Bastien Nocera wrote: > "These cursors themes will instant apply with GTK+ 2.8." > Why does the dialog say the contrary? Is that a bug in the dialog? This has been fixed in bug 312070. -- Regards, Olav _______________________________________________ gnome-hackers mailing list gnome-hackers@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/gnome-hackers From gnome-hackers-bounces@gnome.org Sat Jul 30 16:06:32 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: gnome-hackers-readonly@gnome.org Delivered-To: gnome-hackers-readonly@gnome.org Received: from localhost (unknown [127.0.0.1]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CACFD3B12EE; Sat, 30 Jul 2005 16:06:32 -0400 (EDT) Received: from menubar.gnome.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (menubar.gnome.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 10907-03; Sat, 30 Jul 2005 16:06:30 -0400 (EDT) Received: from menubar.gnome.org (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1E9503B13BC; Sat, 30 Jul 2005 16:06:30 -0400 (EDT) X-Original-To: gnome-hackers@gnome.org Delivered-To: gnome-hackers@gnome.org Received: from localhost (unknown [127.0.0.1]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3FCD93B11CA for ; Sat, 30 Jul 2005 11:34:06 -0400 (EDT) Received: from menubar.gnome.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (menubar.gnome.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 23472-07 for ; Sat, 30 Jul 2005 11:34:03 -0400 (EDT) Received: from peabody.ximian.com (peabody.ximian.com [130.57.169.10]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D2E393B0D98 for ; Sat, 30 Jul 2005 11:34:02 -0400 (EDT) Received: (qmail 2094 invoked from network); 30 Jul 2005 15:34:02 -0000 Received: from localhost (HELO phantasy) (127.0.0.1) by localhost with SMTP; 30 Jul 2005 15:34:02 -0000 From: Robert Love To: Davyd Madeley In-Reply-To: <1122696538.5750.7.camel@frobisher.madeley.id.au> References: <1122696538.5750.7.camel@frobisher.madeley.id.au> Content-Type: text/plain Date: Sat, 30 Jul 2005 11:33:57 -0400 Message-Id: <1122737637.7128.30.camel@phantasy> Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Evolution 2.2.1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at gnome.org X-Mailman-Approved-At: Sat, 30 Jul 2005 16:06:26 -0400 X-BeenThere: gnome-hackers@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Sender: gnome-hackers-bounces@gnome.org Errors-To: gnome-hackers-bounces@gnome.org X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at gnome.org X-Mailman-Approved-At: Wed, 03 Aug 2005 09:35:56 -0400 Cc: gnome-hackers@gnome.org Subject: Re: G2.12 Prerelease Tour X-BeenThere: gnome-hackers-readonly@gnome.org Reply-To: gnome-hackers@gnome.org List-Id: Read-only copy of gnome-hackers List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 30 Jul 2005 20:06:33 -0000 On Sat, 2005-07-30 at 12:08 +0800, Davyd Madeley wrote: > I haven't yet announced it on my blog. I want to make sure that I > haven't said anything that is wrong, or left anything out. Under Panel & Applets, s/is now offers/now offers/ Well done, old chap. Robert Love _______________________________________________ gnome-hackers mailing list gnome-hackers@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/gnome-hackers From gnome-hackers-bounces@gnome.org Sun Jul 3 17:18:07 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: gnome-hackers-readonly@gnome.org Delivered-To: gnome-hackers-readonly@gnome.org Received: from localhost (unknown [127.0.0.1]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 07FF93B0D40; Sun, 3 Jul 2005 17:18:07 -0400 (EDT) Received: from menubar.gnome.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (menubar.gnome.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 05027-04; Sun, 3 Jul 2005 17:18:05 -0400 (EDT) Received: from menubar.gnome.org (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1F3023B0D3E; Sun, 3 Jul 2005 17:18:05 -0400 (EDT) X-Original-To: gnome-hackers@gnome.org Delivered-To: gnome-hackers@gnome.org Received: from localhost (unknown [127.0.0.1]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id EFF343B069E for ; Sat, 2 Jul 2005 21:19:11 -0400 (EDT) Received: from menubar.gnome.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (menubar.gnome.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 30165-10 for ; Sat, 2 Jul 2005 21:19:08 -0400 (EDT) Received: from smtp106.mail.sc5.yahoo.com (smtp106.mail.sc5.yahoo.com [66.163.169.226]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with SMTP id D3AF83B066B for ; Sat, 2 Jul 2005 21:19:07 -0400 (EDT) Received: (qmail 77997 invoked from network); 3 Jul 2005 01:18:48 -0000 DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; h=Received:Subject:From:To:In-Reply-To:References:Content-Type:Date:Message-Id:Mime-Version:X-Mailer; b=35eyjCctBZPTHx0hpsk6k2wKm3VgB0wWFB+EvQCiJdoZFhkPynK0NIeSXpgZ2EgbIm7l8P0bsiLx1SGXziuiR2eGrUGX/UKz+M3xCjg5fAR6i8uCBC3+SSTMm8s/Pnv/oYhMrhLQFFuenVz/gSJno8smsfuZqDROlsmptXYvKNY= ; Received: from unknown (HELO ?192.168.1.101?) (bigbandit2004@24.182.57.192 with plain) by smtp106.mail.sc5.yahoo.com with SMTP; 3 Jul 2005 01:18:47 -0000 From: Joe Jackson To: gnome-hackers@gnome.org In-Reply-To: <20050703000528.4BAC16CC2B6@window.gnome.org> References: <20050703000528.4BAC16CC2B6@window.gnome.org> Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="=-VuVjTKzpyVD+W41VjKGR" Date: Sat, 02 Jul 2005 18:18:48 -0700 Message-Id: <1120353528.22051.0.camel@localhost.localdomain> Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Evolution 2.2.1.1 X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at gnome.org X-Mailman-Approved-At: Sun, 03 Jul 2005 17:18:04 -0400 X-BeenThere: gnome-hackers@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Sender: gnome-hackers-bounces@gnome.org Errors-To: gnome-hackers-bounces@gnome.org X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at gnome.org X-Mailman-Approved-At: Fri, 08 Jul 2005 08:17:56 -0400 Cc: Subject: Re: gnome-icon-theme 2.11.4 X-BeenThere: gnome-hackers-readonly@gnome.org Reply-To: gnome-hackers@gnome.org List-Id: Read-only copy of gnome-hackers List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 03 Jul 2005 21:18:07 -0000 --=-VuVjTKzpyVD+W41VjKGR Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="=-m1asz/X5qT9FiwcKuNxx" --=-m1asz/X5qT9FiwcKuNxx Content-Type: text/plain Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit The locations for the Icons do not exist. R, Joe Jackson --=-m1asz/X5qT9FiwcKuNxx Content-Type: text/html; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit The locations for the Icons do not exist.
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Joe Jackson --=-m1asz/X5qT9FiwcKuNxx-- --=-VuVjTKzpyVD+W41VjKGR Content-Disposition: inline Content-Description: Forwarded message - gnome-icon-theme 2.11.4 Content-Type: message/rfc822 X-Apparently-To: bigbandit2004@yahoo.com via 206.190.38.24; Sat, 02 Jul 2005 17:05:34 -0700 X-Originating-IP: [209.132.176.177] Return-Path: Authentication-Results: mta176.mail.mud.yahoo.com from=widget.gnome.org; domainkeys=neutral (no sig) Received: from 209.132.176.177 (EHLO menubar.gnome.org) (209.132.176.177) by mta176.mail.mud.yahoo.com with SMTP; Sat, 02 Jul 2005 17:05:34 -0700 Received: from localhost (unknown [127.0.0.1]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BFCC83B07C9; Sat, 2 Jul 2005 20:05:33 -0400 (EDT) Received: from menubar.gnome.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (menubar.gnome.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 26839-09; Sat, 2 Jul 2005 20:05:33 -0400 (EDT) Received: from menubar.gnome.org (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 118523B085E; Sat, 2 Jul 2005 20:05:32 -0400 (EDT) X-Original-To: ftp-release-list@gnome.org Delivered-To: ftp-release-list@gnome.org Received: from localhost (unknown [127.0.0.1]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 04C6E3B069C for ; Sat, 2 Jul 2005 20:05:30 -0400 (EDT) Received: from menubar.gnome.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (menubar.gnome.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 26829-06 for ; Sat, 2 Jul 2005 20:05:28 -0400 (EDT) Received: from window.gnome.org (window.gnome.org [209.132.176.176]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 89D0E3B077A for ; Sat, 2 Jul 2005 20:05:28 -0400 (EDT) Received: by window.gnome.org (Postfix, from userid 5047) id 4BAC16CC2B6; Sat, 2 Jul 2005 20:05:28 -0400 (EDT) From: Rodney Dawes To: FTP Releases Message-Id: <20050703000528.4BAC16CC2B6@window.gnome.org> Date: Sat, 2 Jul 2005 20:05:28 -0400 (EDT) X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at gnome.org Subject: gnome-icon-theme 2.11.4 X-BeenThere: ftp-release-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: gnome-hackers@gnome.org List-Id: "FTP upload notifications for packagers, the release team and insane users" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Sender: ftp-release-list-bounces@gnome.org Errors-To: ftp-release-list-bounces@gnome.org X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at gnome.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Module: gnome-icon-theme Version: 2.11.4 Uploaded by: Rodney Dawes http://ftp.gnome.org/pub/GNOME/sources/gnome-icon-theme/2.11/gnome-icon-theme-2.11.4.tar.gz md5sum: fa96d144d47334d58f40778cc25f9fed size: 3.3M http://ftp.gnome.org/pub/GNOME/sources/gnome-icon-theme/2.11/gnome-icon-theme-2.11.4.tar.bz2 md5sum: a7c5bf804b8d064142cb51f3609cf786 size: 3.0M -- An RSS 2.0 feed of ftp-release-list is available at: http://ftp.gnome.org/pub/GNOME/LATEST.xml _______________________________________________ ftp-release-list mailing list ftp-release-list@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/ftp-release-list --=-VuVjTKzpyVD+W41VjKGR Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline _______________________________________________ gnome-hackers mailing list gnome-hackers@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/gnome-hackers --=-VuVjTKzpyVD+W41VjKGR-- From gnome-hackers-bounces@gnome.org Sun Jul 10 02:19:04 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: gnome-hackers-readonly@gnome.org Delivered-To: gnome-hackers-readonly@gnome.org Received: from localhost (unknown [127.0.0.1]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E04973B08D1; Sun, 10 Jul 2005 02:19:03 -0400 (EDT) Received: from menubar.gnome.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (menubar.gnome.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 17208-04; Sun, 10 Jul 2005 02:19:02 -0400 (EDT) Received: from menubar.gnome.org (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 204883B0A87; Sun, 10 Jul 2005 02:19:02 -0400 (EDT) X-Original-To: gnome-hackers@gnome.org Delivered-To: gnome-hackers@gnome.org Received: from localhost (unknown [127.0.0.1]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0E76D3B08D1 for ; Sun, 10 Jul 2005 02:18:57 -0400 (EDT) Received: from menubar.gnome.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (menubar.gnome.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 17208-03 for ; Sun, 10 Jul 2005 02:18:55 -0400 (EDT) Received: from black.golder.org (black.golder.org [81.6.249.35]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 78C733B076C for ; Sun, 10 Jul 2005 02:18:54 -0400 (EDT) Received: from localhost (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by black.golder.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B86AD57F8; Sun, 10 Jul 2005 07:18:52 +0100 (BST) Received: from black.golder.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (black.golder.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 09245-09; Sun, 10 Jul 2005 07:18:45 +0100 (BST) Received: from chai (p116-raspknMT1.C.csloxinfo.net [203.172.58.116]) by black.golder.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id EEF4B4145; Sun, 10 Jul 2005 07:18:42 +0100 (BST) From: Ross Golder To: Joe Jackson In-Reply-To: <1120353528.22051.0.camel@localhost.localdomain> References: <20050703000528.4BAC16CC2B6@window.gnome.org> <1120353528.22051.0.camel@localhost.localdomain> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Date: Sun, 10 Jul 2005 13:18:41 +0700 Message-Id: <1120976322.8903.4.camel@localhost> Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Evolution 2.2.1.1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at golder.org X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at gnome.org X-BeenThere: gnome-hackers@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Sender: gnome-hackers-bounces@gnome.org Errors-To: gnome-hackers-bounces@gnome.org X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at gnome.org Cc: gnome-hackers@gnome.org Subject: Re: gnome-icon-theme 2.11.4 X-BeenThere: gnome-hackers-readonly@gnome.org Reply-To: gnome-hackers@gnome.org List-Id: Read-only copy of gnome-hackers List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 10 Jul 2005 06:19:04 -0000 On ส., 2005-07-02 at 18:18 -0700, Joe Jackson wrote: > The locations for the Icons do not exist. > R, > Joe Jackson They do now. There was a problem with ftp.gnome.org syncing it's contents from master.gnome.org around the time you e-mailled. Resolved now. -- Ross > email message attachment, "Forwarded message - gnome-icon-theme > 2.11.4" > On ส., 2005-07-02 at 18:18 -0700, Joe Jackson wrote: > > Module: gnome-icon-theme > > Version: 2.11.4 > > Uploaded by: Rodney Dawes > > > > http://ftp.gnome.org/pub/GNOME/sources/gnome-icon-theme/2.11/gnome-icon-theme-2.11.4.tar.gz > > md5sum: fa96d144d47334d58f40778cc25f9fed > > size: 3.3M > > > > http://ftp.gnome.org/pub/GNOME/sources/gnome-icon-theme/2.11/gnome-icon-theme-2.11.4.tar.bz2 > > md5sum: a7c5bf804b8d064142cb51f3609cf786 > > size: 3.0M > > > _______________________________________________ > gnome-hackers mailing list > gnome-hackers@gnome.org > http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/gnome-hackers _______________________________________________ gnome-hackers mailing list gnome-hackers@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/gnome-hackers From gnome-hackers-bounces@gnome.org Fri Jul 15 10:05:24 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: gnome-hackers-readonly@gnome.org Delivered-To: gnome-hackers-readonly@gnome.org Received: from localhost (unknown [127.0.0.1]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D63373B15B8; Fri, 15 Jul 2005 10:05:24 -0400 (EDT) Received: from menubar.gnome.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (menubar.gnome.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 30591-02; Fri, 15 Jul 2005 10:05:22 -0400 (EDT) Received: from menubar.gnome.org (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C03293B21AE; Fri, 15 Jul 2005 10:05:12 -0400 (EDT) X-Original-To: gnome-hackers@gnome.org Delivered-To: gnome-hackers@gnome.org Received: from localhost (unknown [127.0.0.1]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1A6AA3B2101 for ; Fri, 15 Jul 2005 10:05:08 -0400 (EDT) Received: from menubar.gnome.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (menubar.gnome.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 30442-08 for ; Fri, 15 Jul 2005 10:05:04 -0400 (EDT) Received: from brmea-mail-3.sun.com (brmea-mail-3.Sun.COM [192.18.98.34]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 534E13B21A9 for ; Fri, 15 Jul 2005 10:05:02 -0400 (EDT) Received: from phys-gadget-1 ([129.156.85.171]) by brmea-mail-3.sun.com (8.12.10/8.12.9) with ESMTP id j6FE4xva027194 for ; Fri, 15 Jul 2005 08:05:01 -0600 (MDT) Received: from conversion-daemon.gadget-mail1.uk.sun.com by gadget-mail1.uk.sun.com (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.24 (built Dec 19 2003)) id <0IJO00C019SBA2@gadget-mail1.uk.sun.com> (original mail from Calum.Benson@Sun.COM) for gnome-hackers@gnome.org; Fri, 15 Jul 2005 15:05:00 +0100 (BST) Received: from cdelab89.cde.ireland.sun.com (cdelab89.Ireland.Sun.COM [129.156.226.189]) by gadget-mail1.uk.sun.com (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.24 (built Dec 19 2003)) with ESMTP id <0IJO007MX9SBPC@gadget-mail1.uk.sun.com>; Fri, 15 Jul 2005 15:05:00 +0100 (BST) Date: Fri, 15 Jul 2005 15:04:48 +0100 From: Calum Benson In-reply-to: <1121403906.5803.21.camel@localhost> To: gnome-hackers@gnome.org Message-id: <1121436239.16437.77.camel@cdelab89.cde.ireland.sun.com> Organization: Sun Microsytems Ireland Ltd. MIME-version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Ximian Evolution 1.4.6.338 Content-type: text/plain Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT References: <1121403906.5803.21.camel@localhost> X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at gnome.org X-BeenThere: gnome-hackers@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Sender: gnome-hackers-bounces@gnome.org Errors-To: gnome-hackers-bounces@gnome.org X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at gnome.org Cc: "devel-announce-list@gnome.org" , GNOME Desktop Subject: Re: Heads-up: overwrite confirmation for GtkFileChooser X-BeenThere: gnome-hackers-readonly@gnome.org Reply-To: gnome-hackers@gnome.org List-Id: Read-only copy of gnome-hackers List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 15 Jul 2005 14:05:25 -0000 On Fri, 2005-07-15 at 06:05, Federico Mena Quintero wrote: > > http://primates.ximian.com/~federico/news-2005-07.html#14 Cool, needs a little HIG love though :) - Alerts shouldn't have any titlebar text - Bold text should be in 'newspaper headline' style, so "File '%s' Already Exists" (with no trailing punctuation) would be shorter and more appropriate - "Replace Existing File" (should be book title case) could just be "Replace" - It's not immediately clear to me what "Select Another File" (should also be book title case) does... select another file for what? The more standard "Cancel" would probably be clear enough, IMHO (although that could be mis-interpreted as cancelling the whole Save operation, so a better term would still be useful). (Oh, I see some of this is already covered in the bug report; have added the stuff that isn't.) Cheeri, Calum. -- CALUM BENSON, Usability Engineer Sun Microsystems Ireland mailto:calum.benson@sun.com Java Desktop System Group http://ie.sun.com +353 1 819 9771 Any opinions are personal and not necessarily those of Sun Microsystems _______________________________________________ gnome-hackers mailing list gnome-hackers@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/gnome-hackers From gnome-hackers-bounces@gnome.org Fri Jul 15 10:08:07 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: gnome-hackers-readonly@gnome.org Delivered-To: gnome-hackers-readonly@gnome.org Received: from localhost (unknown [127.0.0.1]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D601A3B15B8; Fri, 15 Jul 2005 10:08:07 -0400 (EDT) Received: from menubar.gnome.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (menubar.gnome.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 30873-02; Fri, 15 Jul 2005 10:08:06 -0400 (EDT) Received: from menubar.gnome.org (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 34BBB3B21B0; Fri, 15 Jul 2005 10:07:47 -0400 (EDT) X-Original-To: gnome-hackers@gnome.org Delivered-To: gnome-hackers@gnome.org Received: from localhost (unknown [127.0.0.1]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7F28F3B21B2; Fri, 15 Jul 2005 10:07:12 -0400 (EDT) Received: from menubar.gnome.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (menubar.gnome.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 30762-01; Fri, 15 Jul 2005 10:07:10 -0400 (EDT) Received: from mx1.redhat.com (mx1.redhat.com [66.187.233.31]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5715F3B15B8; Fri, 15 Jul 2005 10:07:04 -0400 (EDT) Received: from int-mx1.corp.redhat.com (int-mx1.corp.redhat.com [172.16.52.254]) by mx1.redhat.com (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j6FE73ZS031983; Fri, 15 Jul 2005 10:07:03 -0400 Received: from pobox.surrey.redhat.com (pobox.surrey.redhat.com [172.16.10.17]) by int-mx1.corp.redhat.com (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id j6FE73V01399; Fri, 15 Jul 2005 10:07:03 -0400 Received: from bnocera.surrey.redhat.com (bnocera.surrey.redhat.com [172.16.10.53]) by pobox.surrey.redhat.com (8.12.8/8.12.8) with ESMTP id j6FE723N012080; Fri, 15 Jul 2005 15:07:02 +0100 From: Bastien Nocera To: Calum Benson In-Reply-To: <1121436239.16437.77.camel@cdelab89.cde.ireland.sun.com> References: <1121403906.5803.21.camel@localhost> <1121436239.16437.77.camel@cdelab89.cde.ireland.sun.com> Content-Type: text/plain Date: Fri, 15 Jul 2005 15:07:02 +0100 Message-Id: <1121436422.15255.20.camel@bnocera.surrey.redhat.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Evolution 2.0.2 (2.0.2-16) Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at gnome.org X-BeenThere: gnome-hackers@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Sender: gnome-hackers-bounces@gnome.org Errors-To: gnome-hackers-bounces@gnome.org X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at gnome.org Cc: GNOME Desktop , gnome-hackers@gnome.org, "devel-announce-list@gnome.org" Subject: Re: Heads-up: overwrite confirmation for GtkFileChooser X-BeenThere: gnome-hackers-readonly@gnome.org Reply-To: gnome-hackers@gnome.org List-Id: Read-only copy of gnome-hackers List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 15 Jul 2005 14:08:08 -0000 On Fri, 2005-07-15 at 15:04 +0100, Calum Benson wrote: > On Fri, 2005-07-15 at 06:05, Federico Mena Quintero wrote: > > > > > http://primates.ximian.com/~federico/news-2005-07.html#14 > > Cool, needs a little HIG love though :) > > - Alerts shouldn't have any titlebar text > - Bold text should be in 'newspaper headline' style, so "File '%s' > Already Exists" (with no trailing punctuation) would be shorter and more > appropriate > - "Replace Existing File" (should be book title case) could just be > "Replace" > - It's not immediately clear to me what "Select Another File" (should > also be book title case) does... select another file for what? The more > standard "Cancel" would probably be clear enough, IMHO (although that > could be mis-interpreted as cancelling the whole Save operation, so a > better term would still be useful). "Select Another File"? It's not another file we're looking for, but another filename. > (Oh, I see some of this is already covered in the bug report; have added > the stuff that isn't.) > > Cheeri, > Calum. > --- Bastien Nocera Hollywood? It's fucking 14 hours there, 14 hours back and two hours of kissing fucking cheeks. Fuck that. -- Richard Harris _______________________________________________ gnome-hackers mailing list gnome-hackers@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/gnome-hackers From gnome-hackers-bounces@gnome.org Fri Jul 15 10:12:27 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: gnome-hackers-readonly@gnome.org Delivered-To: gnome-hackers-readonly@gnome.org Received: from localhost (unknown [127.0.0.1]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D25323B21F4; Fri, 15 Jul 2005 10:12:27 -0400 (EDT) Received: from menubar.gnome.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (menubar.gnome.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 31567-02; Fri, 15 Jul 2005 10:12:25 -0400 (EDT) Received: from menubar.gnome.org (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B3CE23B21D3; Fri, 15 Jul 2005 10:11:52 -0400 (EDT) X-Original-To: gnome-hackers@gnome.org Delivered-To: gnome-hackers@gnome.org Received: from localhost (unknown [127.0.0.1]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id F3E113B218C for ; Fri, 15 Jul 2005 10:11:44 -0400 (EDT) Received: from menubar.gnome.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (menubar.gnome.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 31470-01 for ; Fri, 15 Jul 2005 10:11:42 -0400 (EDT) Received: from wproxy.gmail.com (wproxy.gmail.com [64.233.184.196]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 049413B21D1 for ; Fri, 15 Jul 2005 10:11:15 -0400 (EDT) Received: by wproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id 68so617032wra for ; Fri, 15 Jul 2005 07:11:14 -0700 (PDT) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:reply-to:to:subject:cc:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; b=mauxwx+ceZ+3bVRgE6LWlLB1deyFTBr+kI6LHMlDqBfW1uHKgQ8lVugxl2RihPgGtloQoU7gMM3O92hn6/0XDrNv3n0jpY5YuuGOw0NrSx3wsV8a9gNVPSqiE5KHfLyJpIMld9P2KPi2zGPELGQC+/XvzkS8Vf/wSZhdUmw3tjc= Received: by 10.54.2.3 with SMTP id 3mr687677wrb; Fri, 15 Jul 2005 07:11:14 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.54.48.50 with HTTP; Fri, 15 Jul 2005 07:11:14 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <2cb10c44050715071157a44cc7@mail.gmail.com> Date: Fri, 15 Jul 2005 10:11:14 -0400 From: Luis Villa To: Calum Benson In-Reply-To: <1121436239.16437.77.camel@cdelab89.cde.ireland.sun.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Disposition: inline References: <1121403906.5803.21.camel@localhost> <1121436239.16437.77.camel@cdelab89.cde.ireland.sun.com> X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at gnome.org X-BeenThere: gnome-hackers@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Sender: gnome-hackers-bounces@gnome.org Errors-To: gnome-hackers-bounces@gnome.org X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at gnome.org Cc: gnome-hackers@gnome.org, GNOME Desktop Subject: Re: Heads-up: overwrite confirmation for GtkFileChooser X-BeenThere: gnome-hackers-readonly@gnome.org Reply-To: gnome-hackers@gnome.org, Luis Villa List-Id: Read-only copy of gnome-hackers List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 15 Jul 2005 14:12:28 -0000 On 7/15/05, Calum Benson wrote: > On Fri, 2005-07-15 at 06:05, Federico Mena Quintero wrote: >=20 > > > > http://primates.ximian.com/~federico/news-2005-07.html#14 >=20 > Cool, needs a little HIG love though :) >=20 > - Alerts shouldn't have any titlebar text Is this, or is this not, an a11y problem? Luis _______________________________________________ gnome-hackers mailing list gnome-hackers@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/gnome-hackers From gnome-hackers-bounces@gnome.org Fri Jul 15 10:51:53 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: gnome-hackers-readonly@gnome.org Delivered-To: gnome-hackers-readonly@gnome.org Received: from localhost (unknown [127.0.0.1]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C53763B21DF; Fri, 15 Jul 2005 10:51:53 -0400 (EDT) Received: from menubar.gnome.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (menubar.gnome.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 03441-02; Fri, 15 Jul 2005 10:51:51 -0400 (EDT) Received: from menubar.gnome.org (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5C2593B21BA; Fri, 15 Jul 2005 10:51:41 -0400 (EDT) X-Original-To: gnome-hackers@gnome.org Delivered-To: gnome-hackers@gnome.org Received: from localhost (unknown [127.0.0.1]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5BAF73B2076 for ; Fri, 15 Jul 2005 10:51:35 -0400 (EDT) Received: from menubar.gnome.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (menubar.gnome.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 03328-05 for ; Fri, 15 Jul 2005 10:51:35 -0400 (EDT) Received: from brmea-mail-3.sun.com (brmea-mail-3.Sun.COM [192.18.98.34]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 963333B2195 for ; Fri, 15 Jul 2005 10:51:33 -0400 (EDT) Received: from phys-gadget-1 ([129.156.85.171]) by brmea-mail-3.sun.com (8.12.10/8.12.9) with ESMTP id j6FEm00m010613 for ; Fri, 15 Jul 2005 08:51:29 -0600 (MDT) Received: from conversion-daemon.gadget-mail1.uk.sun.com by gadget-mail1.uk.sun.com (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.24 (built Dec 19 2003)) id <0IJO00201BQAZE@gadget-mail1.uk.sun.com> (original mail from Calum.Benson@Sun.COM) for gnome-hackers@gnome.org; Fri, 15 Jul 2005 15:50:22 +0100 (BST) Received: from cdelab89.cde.ireland.sun.com (cdelab89.Ireland.Sun.COM [129.156.226.189]) by gadget-mail1.uk.sun.com (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.24 (built Dec 19 2003)) with ESMTP id <0IJO00E77BVYJO@gadget-mail1.uk.sun.com>; Fri, 15 Jul 2005 15:50:22 +0100 (BST) Date: Fri, 15 Jul 2005 15:50:13 +0100 From: Calum Benson In-reply-to: <2cb10c44050715071157a44cc7@mail.gmail.com> To: Luis Villa Message-id: <1121439009.16437.81.camel@cdelab89.cde.ireland.sun.com> Organization: Sun Microsytems Ireland Ltd. MIME-version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Ximian Evolution 1.4.6.338 Content-type: text/plain Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT References: <1121403906.5803.21.camel@localhost> <1121436239.16437.77.camel@cdelab89.cde.ireland.sun.com> <2cb10c44050715071157a44cc7@mail.gmail.com> X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at gnome.org X-BeenThere: gnome-hackers@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Sender: gnome-hackers-bounces@gnome.org Errors-To: gnome-hackers-bounces@gnome.org X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at gnome.org Cc: gnome-hackers@gnome.org, GNOME Desktop Subject: Re: Heads-up: overwrite confirmation for GtkFileChooser X-BeenThere: gnome-hackers-readonly@gnome.org Reply-To: gnome-hackers@gnome.org List-Id: Read-only copy of gnome-hackers List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 15 Jul 2005 14:51:54 -0000 On Fri, 2005-07-15 at 15:11, Luis Villa wrote: > > > - Alerts shouldn't have any titlebar text > > Is this, or is this not, an a11y problem? Open for discussion in bug #165132... I don't think it should be, because gnopernicus (IIRC) reads out the text of alerts as they become focused. (But I'm not sure what the current situation is with alerts when Alt-Tabbing through windows, for example.) Cheeri, Calum. -- CALUM BENSON, Usability Engineer Sun Microsystems Ireland mailto:calum.benson@sun.com Java Desktop System Group http://ie.sun.com +353 1 819 9771 Any opinions are personal and not necessarily those of Sun Microsystems _______________________________________________ gnome-hackers mailing list gnome-hackers@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/gnome-hackers From srittau@jroger.in-berlin.de Fri Jul 15 11:21:03 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: gnome-hackers-readonly@gnome.org Delivered-To: gnome-hackers-readonly@gnome.org Received: from localhost (unknown [127.0.0.1]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 763C23B226C for ; Fri, 15 Jul 2005 11:21:03 -0400 (EDT) Received: from menubar.gnome.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (menubar.gnome.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 06828-02 for ; Fri, 15 Jul 2005 11:21:00 -0400 (EDT) Received: from hirsch.in-berlin.de (hirsch.in-berlin.de [192.109.42.6]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D45FE3B2210 for ; Fri, 15 Jul 2005 11:20:03 -0400 (EDT) X-Envelope-From: srittau@jroger.in-berlin.de X-Envelope-To: Received: from hirsch.in-berlin.de (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by hirsch.in-berlin.de (8.13.3/8.13.3/Debian-8) with ESMTP id j6FEo2c4001154 for ; Fri, 15 Jul 2005 16:50:02 +0200 Received: (from uucp@localhost) by hirsch.in-berlin.de (8.13.3/8.13.3/Submit) with UUCP id j6FEo11t001149 for gnome-hackers-readonly@gnome.org; Fri, 15 Jul 2005 16:50:01 +0200 Received: from srittau by jroger.in-berlin.de with local (Exim 3.36 #1 (Debian)) id 1DtS4I-0002hB-00; Fri, 15 Jul 2005 17:25:38 +0200 Date: Fri, 15 Jul 2005 17:25:38 +0200 To: gnome-hackers-readonly@gnome.org, gnome-hackers@gnome.org Message-ID: <20050715152538.GA10219@jroger.in-berlin.de> Mail-Followup-To: gnome-hackers-readonly@gnome.org, gnome-hackers@gnome.org References: <1121436239.16437.77.camel@cdelab89.cde.ireland.sun.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <1121436239.16437.77.camel@cdelab89.cde.ireland.sun.com> User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.9i From: Sebastian Rittau X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at gnome.org Cc: Subject: Re: Heads-up: overwrite confirmation for GtkFileChooser X-BeenThere: gnome-hackers-readonly@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: gnome-hackers@gnome.org List-Id: Read-only copy of gnome-hackers List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 15 Jul 2005 15:21:03 -0000 On Fri, Jul 15, 2005 at 03:04:48PM +0100, Calum Benson wrote: > On Fri, 2005-07-15 at 06:05, Federico Mena Quintero wrote: > > > > > http://primates.ximian.com/~federico/news-2005-07.html#14 > > Cool, needs a little HIG love though :) One more thing: It seems that the GTK_STOCK_REFRESH stock item is misused to mean "Replace" here. I'm not sure that is a good idea. It's probably better to introduce a new stock item. - Sebastian From gnome-hackers-bounces@gnome.org Fri Jul 15 11:22:50 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: gnome-hackers-readonly@gnome.org Delivered-To: gnome-hackers-readonly@gnome.org Received: from localhost (unknown [127.0.0.1]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id EA4593B2215; Fri, 15 Jul 2005 11:22:49 -0400 (EDT) Received: from menubar.gnome.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (menubar.gnome.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 07135-09; Fri, 15 Jul 2005 11:22:47 -0400 (EDT) Received: from menubar.gnome.org (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id EF27F3B2224; Fri, 15 Jul 2005 11:21:09 -0400 (EDT) X-Original-To: gnome-hackers@gnome.org Delivered-To: gnome-hackers@gnome.org Received: from localhost (unknown [127.0.0.1]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6C80C3B2210 for ; Fri, 15 Jul 2005 11:21:07 -0400 (EDT) Received: from menubar.gnome.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (menubar.gnome.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 06834-01 for ; Fri, 15 Jul 2005 11:21:00 -0400 (EDT) Received: from hirsch.in-berlin.de (hirsch.in-berlin.de [192.109.42.6]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D46AA3B2224 for ; Fri, 15 Jul 2005 11:20:03 -0400 (EDT) X-Envelope-From: srittau@jroger.in-berlin.de X-Envelope-To: Received: from hirsch.in-berlin.de (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by hirsch.in-berlin.de (8.13.3/8.13.3/Debian-8) with ESMTP id j6FEo2LJ001170 for ; Fri, 15 Jul 2005 16:50:02 +0200 Received: (from uucp@localhost) by hirsch.in-berlin.de (8.13.3/8.13.3/Submit) with UUCP id j6FEo2j3001169 for gnome-hackers@gnome.org; Fri, 15 Jul 2005 16:50:02 +0200 Received: from srittau by jroger.in-berlin.de with local (Exim 3.36 #1 (Debian)) id 1DtS4I-0002hB-00; Fri, 15 Jul 2005 17:25:38 +0200 Date: Fri, 15 Jul 2005 17:25:38 +0200 To: gnome-hackers-readonly@gnome.org, gnome-hackers@gnome.org Message-ID: <20050715152538.GA10219@jroger.in-berlin.de> Mail-Followup-To: gnome-hackers-readonly@gnome.org, gnome-hackers@gnome.org References: <1121436239.16437.77.camel@cdelab89.cde.ireland.sun.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <1121436239.16437.77.camel@cdelab89.cde.ireland.sun.com> User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.9i From: Sebastian Rittau X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at gnome.org X-BeenThere: gnome-hackers@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Sender: gnome-hackers-bounces@gnome.org Errors-To: gnome-hackers-bounces@gnome.org X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at gnome.org Cc: Subject: Re: Heads-up: overwrite confirmation for GtkFileChooser X-BeenThere: gnome-hackers-readonly@gnome.org Reply-To: gnome-hackers@gnome.org List-Id: Read-only copy of gnome-hackers List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 15 Jul 2005 15:22:50 -0000 On Fri, Jul 15, 2005 at 03:04:48PM +0100, Calum Benson wrote: > On Fri, 2005-07-15 at 06:05, Federico Mena Quintero wrote: > > > > > http://primates.ximian.com/~federico/news-2005-07.html#14 > > Cool, needs a little HIG love though :) One more thing: It seems that the GTK_STOCK_REFRESH stock item is misused to mean "Replace" here. I'm not sure that is a good idea. It's probably better to introduce a new stock item. - Sebastian _______________________________________________ gnome-hackers mailing list gnome-hackers@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/gnome-hackers From gnome-hackers-bounces@gnome.org Fri Jul 15 11:24:59 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: gnome-hackers-readonly@gnome.org Delivered-To: gnome-hackers-readonly@gnome.org Received: from localhost (unknown [127.0.0.1]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7DA063B2211; Fri, 15 Jul 2005 11:24:59 -0400 (EDT) Received: from menubar.gnome.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (menubar.gnome.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 07751-04; Fri, 15 Jul 2005 11:24:57 -0400 (EDT) Received: from menubar.gnome.org (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id AAD2F3B2213; Fri, 15 Jul 2005 11:24:50 -0400 (EDT) X-Original-To: gnome-hackers@gnome.org Delivered-To: gnome-hackers@gnome.org Received: from localhost (unknown [127.0.0.1]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id F0C363B15D0 for ; Fri, 15 Jul 2005 11:24:45 -0400 (EDT) Received: from menubar.gnome.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (menubar.gnome.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 07690-03 for ; Fri, 15 Jul 2005 11:24:43 -0400 (EDT) Received: from brmea-mail-4.sun.com (brmea-mail-4.Sun.COM [192.18.98.36]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E29603B2215 for ; Fri, 15 Jul 2005 11:24:35 -0400 (EDT) Received: from phys-gadget-1 ([129.156.85.171]) by brmea-mail-4.sun.com (8.12.10/8.12.9) with ESMTP id j6FFOYr7005886 for ; Fri, 15 Jul 2005 09:24:35 -0600 (MDT) Received: from conversion-daemon.gadget-mail1.uk.sun.com by gadget-mail1.uk.sun.com (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.24 (built Dec 19 2003)) id <0IJO00301DETID@gadget-mail1.uk.sun.com> (original mail from Calum.Benson@Sun.COM) for gnome-hackers@gnome.org; Fri, 15 Jul 2005 16:24:34 +0100 (BST) Received: from dhcp-edub03-237-211.Ireland.Sun.COM (dhcp-edub03-237-211.Ireland.Sun.COM [129.156.237.211]) by gadget-mail1.uk.sun.com (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.24 (built Dec 19 2003)) with ESMTPA id <0IJO00EAODGXJO@gadget-mail1.uk.sun.com>; Fri, 15 Jul 2005 16:24:33 +0100 (BST) Date: Fri, 15 Jul 2005 16:24:30 +0100 From: Calum Benson In-reply-to: <1121439009.16437.81.camel@cdelab89.cde.ireland.sun.com> To: Luis Villa Message-id: <1121441071.8414.12.camel@localhost.localdomain> Organization: Sun Microsystems Ireland Ltd. MIME-version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Evolution 2.3.5.1 Content-type: text/plain Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT References: <1121403906.5803.21.camel@localhost> <1121436239.16437.77.camel@cdelab89.cde.ireland.sun.com> <2cb10c44050715071157a44cc7@mail.gmail.com> <1121439009.16437.81.camel@cdelab89.cde.ireland.sun.com> X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at gnome.org X-BeenThere: gnome-hackers@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Sender: gnome-hackers-bounces@gnome.org Errors-To: gnome-hackers-bounces@gnome.org X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at gnome.org Cc: gnome-hackers@gnome.org, GNOME Desktop Subject: Re: Heads-up: overwrite confirmation for GtkFileChooser X-BeenThere: gnome-hackers-readonly@gnome.org Reply-To: gnome-hackers@gnome.org List-Id: Read-only copy of gnome-hackers List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 15 Jul 2005 15:24:59 -0000 On Fri, 2005-07-15 at 15:50 +0100, Calum Benson wrote: > On Fri, 2005-07-15 at 15:11, Luis Villa wrote: > > > > > - Alerts shouldn't have any titlebar text > > > > Is this, or is this not, an a11y problem? > > Open for discussion in bug #165132... I don't think it should be, > because gnopernicus (IIRC) reads out the text of alerts as they become > focused. (But I'm not sure what the current situation is with alerts > when Alt-Tabbing through windows, for example.) FWIW I've just had a chat with Bill about this, and we're satisfied that there are no significant accessibility issues for alerts provided their accessible role is ROLE_ALERT (which should be true of GtkMessageDialogs by default, but won't be of hand-crafted ones), and they don't appear in the window/alt-tab list (which should be true of the vast majority). Bill thinks we probably shouldn't actually explicitly forbid the use of titles in alerts, though, primarily for cases where either of the above may not be true... but we can follow that up in http://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=165132 . Cheeri, Calum. -- CALUM BENSON, Usability Engineer Sun Microsystems Ireland mailto:calum.benson@sun.com Java Desktop System Group http://ie.sun.com +353 1 819 9771 Any opinions are personal and not necessarily those of Sun Microsystems _______________________________________________ gnome-hackers mailing list gnome-hackers@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/gnome-hackers From Calum.Benson@Sun.COM Fri Jul 15 13:04:36 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: gnome-hackers-readonly@gnome.org Delivered-To: gnome-hackers-readonly@gnome.org Received: from localhost (unknown [127.0.0.1]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 989B53B2288 for ; Fri, 15 Jul 2005 13:04:36 -0400 (EDT) Received: from menubar.gnome.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (menubar.gnome.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 17664-06 for ; Fri, 15 Jul 2005 13:04:33 -0400 (EDT) Received: from brmea-mail-3.sun.com (brmea-mail-3.Sun.COM [192.18.98.34]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 391393B2247 for ; Fri, 15 Jul 2005 13:04:33 -0400 (EDT) Received: from phys-gadget-1 ([129.156.85.171]) by brmea-mail-3.sun.com (8.12.10/8.12.9) with ESMTP id j6FH4WvU026380 for ; Fri, 15 Jul 2005 11:04:32 -0600 (MDT) Received: from conversion-daemon.gadget-mail1.uk.sun.com by gadget-mail1.uk.sun.com (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.24 (built Dec 19 2003)) id <0IJO00101HWCLX@gadget-mail1.uk.sun.com> (original mail from Calum.Benson@Sun.COM) for gnome-hackers-readonly@gnome.org; Fri, 15 Jul 2005 18:04:32 +0100 (BST) Received: from dhcp-edub03-237-211.Ireland.Sun.COM (dhcp-edub03-237-211.Ireland.Sun.COM [129.156.237.211]) by gadget-mail1.uk.sun.com (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.24 (built Dec 19 2003)) with ESMTPA id <0IJO00EROI3JZ1@gadget-mail1.uk.sun.com>; Fri, 15 Jul 2005 18:04:32 +0100 (BST) Date: Fri, 15 Jul 2005 18:04:28 +0100 From: Calum Benson In-reply-to: <20050715152538.GA10219@jroger.in-berlin.de> To: Sebastian Rittau Message-id: <1121447068.8929.13.camel@localhost.localdomain> Organization: Sun Microsystems Ireland Ltd. MIME-version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Evolution 2.3.5.1 Content-type: text/plain Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT References: <1121436239.16437.77.camel@cdelab89.cde.ireland.sun.com> <20050715152538.GA10219@jroger.in-berlin.de> X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at gnome.org Cc: gnome-hackers-readonly@gnome.org, gnome-hackers@gnome.org Subject: Re: Heads-up: overwrite confirmation for GtkFileChooser X-BeenThere: gnome-hackers-readonly@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: gnome-hackers@gnome.org List-Id: Read-only copy of gnome-hackers List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 15 Jul 2005 17:04:36 -0000 On Fri, 2005-07-15 at 17:25 +0200, Sebastian Rittau wrote: > On Fri, Jul 15, 2005 at 03:04:48PM +0100, Calum Benson wrote: > > On Fri, 2005-07-15 at 06:05, Federico Mena Quintero wrote: > > > > > > > > http://primates.ximian.com/~federico/news-2005-07.html#14 > > > > Cool, needs a little HIG love though :) > > One more thing: It seems that the GTK_STOCK_REFRESH stock item is misused > to mean "Replace" here. I'm not sure that is a good idea. It's probably > better to introduce a new stock item. Oh yeah... I mentioned in my bug report comment that it might be fine just to use the 'Save' icon instead, as that's what clicking the button will do, after all. Cheeri, Calum. -- CALUM BENSON, Usability Engineer Sun Microsystems Ireland mailto:calum.benson@sun.com Java Desktop System Group http://ie.sun.com +353 1 819 9771 Any opinions are personal and not necessarily those of Sun Microsystems From gnome-hackers-bounces@gnome.org Fri Jul 15 13:04:45 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: gnome-hackers-readonly@gnome.org Delivered-To: gnome-hackers-readonly@gnome.org Received: from localhost (unknown [127.0.0.1]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2ED093B228E; Fri, 15 Jul 2005 13:04:45 -0400 (EDT) Received: from menubar.gnome.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (menubar.gnome.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 17787-01; Fri, 15 Jul 2005 13:04:43 -0400 (EDT) Received: from menubar.gnome.org (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1B2D23B20FE; Fri, 15 Jul 2005 13:04:41 -0400 (EDT) X-Original-To: gnome-hackers@gnome.org Delivered-To: gnome-hackers@gnome.org Received: from localhost (unknown [127.0.0.1]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E9CBD3B2247 for ; Fri, 15 Jul 2005 13:04:37 -0400 (EDT) Received: from menubar.gnome.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (menubar.gnome.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 17712-03 for ; Fri, 15 Jul 2005 13:04:34 -0400 (EDT) Received: from brmea-mail-3.sun.com (brmea-mail-3.Sun.COM [192.18.98.34]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8E4A23B2284 for ; Fri, 15 Jul 2005 13:04:33 -0400 (EDT) Received: from phys-gadget-1 ([129.156.85.171]) by brmea-mail-3.sun.com (8.12.10/8.12.9) with ESMTP id j6FH4WvW026380 for ; Fri, 15 Jul 2005 11:04:33 -0600 (MDT) Received: from conversion-daemon.gadget-mail1.uk.sun.com by gadget-mail1.uk.sun.com (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.24 (built Dec 19 2003)) id <0IJO00101HWCLX@gadget-mail1.uk.sun.com> (original mail from Calum.Benson@Sun.COM) for gnome-hackers@gnome.org; Fri, 15 Jul 2005 18:04:32 +0100 (BST) Received: from dhcp-edub03-237-211.Ireland.Sun.COM (dhcp-edub03-237-211.Ireland.Sun.COM [129.156.237.211]) by gadget-mail1.uk.sun.com (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.24 (built Dec 19 2003)) with ESMTPA id <0IJO00EROI3JZ1@gadget-mail1.uk.sun.com>; Fri, 15 Jul 2005 18:04:32 +0100 (BST) Date: Fri, 15 Jul 2005 18:04:28 +0100 From: Calum Benson In-reply-to: <20050715152538.GA10219@jroger.in-berlin.de> To: Sebastian Rittau Message-id: <1121447068.8929.13.camel@localhost.localdomain> Organization: Sun Microsystems Ireland Ltd. MIME-version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Evolution 2.3.5.1 Content-type: text/plain Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT References: <1121436239.16437.77.camel@cdelab89.cde.ireland.sun.com> <20050715152538.GA10219@jroger.in-berlin.de> X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at gnome.org X-BeenThere: gnome-hackers@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Sender: gnome-hackers-bounces@gnome.org Errors-To: gnome-hackers-bounces@gnome.org X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at gnome.org Cc: gnome-hackers-readonly@gnome.org, gnome-hackers@gnome.org Subject: Re: Heads-up: overwrite confirmation for GtkFileChooser X-BeenThere: gnome-hackers-readonly@gnome.org Reply-To: gnome-hackers@gnome.org List-Id: Read-only copy of gnome-hackers List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 15 Jul 2005 17:04:45 -0000 On Fri, 2005-07-15 at 17:25 +0200, Sebastian Rittau wrote: > On Fri, Jul 15, 2005 at 03:04:48PM +0100, Calum Benson wrote: > > On Fri, 2005-07-15 at 06:05, Federico Mena Quintero wrote: > > > > > > > > http://primates.ximian.com/~federico/news-2005-07.html#14 > > > > Cool, needs a little HIG love though :) > > One more thing: It seems that the GTK_STOCK_REFRESH stock item is misused > to mean "Replace" here. I'm not sure that is a good idea. It's probably > better to introduce a new stock item. Oh yeah... I mentioned in my bug report comment that it might be fine just to use the 'Save' icon instead, as that's what clicking the button will do, after all. Cheeri, Calum. -- CALUM BENSON, Usability Engineer Sun Microsystems Ireland mailto:calum.benson@sun.com Java Desktop System Group http://ie.sun.com +353 1 819 9771 Any opinions are personal and not necessarily those of Sun Microsystems _______________________________________________ gnome-hackers mailing list gnome-hackers@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/gnome-hackers From gnome-hackers-bounces@gnome.org Fri Jul 15 14:11:41 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: gnome-hackers-readonly@gnome.org Delivered-To: gnome-hackers-readonly@gnome.org Received: from localhost (unknown [127.0.0.1]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2AF0C3B15E8; Fri, 15 Jul 2005 14:11:41 -0400 (EDT) Received: from menubar.gnome.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (menubar.gnome.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 24351-08; Fri, 15 Jul 2005 14:11:39 -0400 (EDT) Received: from menubar.gnome.org (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 894903B159F; Fri, 15 Jul 2005 14:11:39 -0400 (EDT) X-Original-To: gnome-hackers@gnome.org Delivered-To: gnome-hackers@gnome.org Received: from localhost (unknown [127.0.0.1]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 133CD3B15E8 for ; Fri, 15 Jul 2005 14:11:38 -0400 (EDT) Received: from menubar.gnome.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (menubar.gnome.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 24327-08 for ; Fri, 15 Jul 2005 14:11:36 -0400 (EDT) Received: from peabody.ximian.com (peabody.ximian.com [130.57.169.10]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 63CE93B2040 for ; Fri, 15 Jul 2005 14:11:34 -0400 (EDT) Received: (qmail 15730 invoked from network); 15 Jul 2005 18:11:33 -0000 Received: from outbound.ximian.com (HELO ?10.0.0.4?) (130.57.170.250) by peabody.ximian.com with RC4-MD5 encrypted SMTP; 15 Jul 2005 18:11:33 -0000 From: Federico Mena Quintero To: Sebastian Rittau In-Reply-To: <20050715152538.GA10219@jroger.in-berlin.de> References: <1121436239.16437.77.camel@cdelab89.cde.ireland.sun.com> <20050715152538.GA10219@jroger.in-berlin.de> Content-Type: text/plain Date: Fri, 15 Jul 2005 13:10:44 -0500 Message-Id: <1121451044.1982.34.camel@localhost> Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Evolution 2.0.4 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at gnome.org X-BeenThere: gnome-hackers@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Sender: gnome-hackers-bounces@gnome.org Errors-To: gnome-hackers-bounces@gnome.org X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at gnome.org Cc: gnome-hackers@gnome.org Subject: Re: Heads-up: overwrite confirmation for GtkFileChooser X-BeenThere: gnome-hackers-readonly@gnome.org Reply-To: gnome-hackers@gnome.org List-Id: Read-only copy of gnome-hackers List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 15 Jul 2005 18:11:41 -0000 On Fri, 2005-07-15 at 17:25 +0200, Sebastian Rittau wrote: > One more thing: It seems that the GTK_STOCK_REFRESH stock item is misused > to mean "Replace" here. I'm not sure that is a good idea. It's probably > better to introduce a new stock item. Changed it to GTK_STOCK_SAVE_AS, which is a pencil writing on a floppy. Federico _______________________________________________ gnome-hackers mailing list gnome-hackers@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/gnome-hackers From federico@ximian.com Fri Jul 15 14:14:05 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: gnome-hackers-readonly@gnome.org Delivered-To: gnome-hackers-readonly@gnome.org Received: from localhost (unknown [127.0.0.1]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2BB913B159F for ; Fri, 15 Jul 2005 14:14:05 -0400 (EDT) Received: from menubar.gnome.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (menubar.gnome.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 24671-08 for ; Fri, 15 Jul 2005 14:14:03 -0400 (EDT) Received: from peabody.ximian.com (peabody.ximian.com [130.57.169.10]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id AA40D3B20E9 for ; Fri, 15 Jul 2005 14:14:02 -0400 (EDT) Received: (qmail 15734 invoked from network); 15 Jul 2005 18:14:01 -0000 Received: from outbound.ximian.com (HELO ?10.0.0.4?) (130.57.170.250) by peabody.ximian.com with RC4-MD5 encrypted SMTP; 15 Jul 2005 18:14:01 -0000 From: Federico Mena Quintero To: Calum Benson In-Reply-To: <1121447068.8929.13.camel@localhost.localdomain> References: <1121436239.16437.77.camel@cdelab89.cde.ireland.sun.com> <20050715152538.GA10219@jroger.in-berlin.de> <1121447068.8929.13.camel@localhost.localdomain> Content-Type: text/plain Date: Fri, 15 Jul 2005 13:13:12 -0500 Message-Id: <1121451192.1982.36.camel@localhost> Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Evolution 2.0.4 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at gnome.org Cc: Sebastian Rittau , gnome-hackers-readonly@gnome.org, gnome-hackers@gnome.org Subject: Re: Heads-up: overwrite confirmation for GtkFileChooser X-BeenThere: gnome-hackers-readonly@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: gnome-hackers@gnome.org List-Id: Read-only copy of gnome-hackers List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 15 Jul 2005 18:14:05 -0000 On Fri, 2005-07-15 at 18:04 +0100, Calum Benson wrote: > Oh yeah... I mentioned in my bug report comment that it might be fine > just to use the 'Save' icon instead, as that's what clicking the button > will do, after all. BTW, I forgot to thank the people who know the HIG by heart and were able to point out issues in the dialog :) So, thanks. Federico From gnome-hackers-bounces@gnome.org Fri Jul 15 14:14:15 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: gnome-hackers-readonly@gnome.org Delivered-To: gnome-hackers-readonly@gnome.org Received: from localhost (unknown [127.0.0.1]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CBF303B159F; Fri, 15 Jul 2005 14:14:15 -0400 (EDT) Received: from menubar.gnome.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (menubar.gnome.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 24769-01; Fri, 15 Jul 2005 14:14:13 -0400 (EDT) Received: from menubar.gnome.org (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E08373B20E9; Fri, 15 Jul 2005 14:14:11 -0400 (EDT) X-Original-To: gnome-hackers@gnome.org Delivered-To: gnome-hackers@gnome.org Received: from localhost (unknown [127.0.0.1]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 420903B0E90 for ; Fri, 15 Jul 2005 14:14:06 -0400 (EDT) Received: from menubar.gnome.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (menubar.gnome.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 24703-04 for ; Fri, 15 Jul 2005 14:14:04 -0400 (EDT) Received: from peabody.ximian.com (peabody.ximian.com [130.57.169.10]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id AA7F33B2160 for ; Fri, 15 Jul 2005 14:14:02 -0400 (EDT) Received: (qmail 15734 invoked from network); 15 Jul 2005 18:14:01 -0000 Received: from outbound.ximian.com (HELO ?10.0.0.4?) (130.57.170.250) by peabody.ximian.com with RC4-MD5 encrypted SMTP; 15 Jul 2005 18:14:01 -0000 From: Federico Mena Quintero To: Calum Benson In-Reply-To: <1121447068.8929.13.camel@localhost.localdomain> References: <1121436239.16437.77.camel@cdelab89.cde.ireland.sun.com> <20050715152538.GA10219@jroger.in-berlin.de> <1121447068.8929.13.camel@localhost.localdomain> Content-Type: text/plain Date: Fri, 15 Jul 2005 13:13:12 -0500 Message-Id: <1121451192.1982.36.camel@localhost> Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Evolution 2.0.4 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at gnome.org X-BeenThere: gnome-hackers@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Sender: gnome-hackers-bounces@gnome.org Errors-To: gnome-hackers-bounces@gnome.org X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at gnome.org Cc: Sebastian Rittau , gnome-hackers-readonly@gnome.org, gnome-hackers@gnome.org Subject: Re: Heads-up: overwrite confirmation for GtkFileChooser X-BeenThere: gnome-hackers-readonly@gnome.org Reply-To: gnome-hackers@gnome.org List-Id: Read-only copy of gnome-hackers List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 15 Jul 2005 18:14:16 -0000 On Fri, 2005-07-15 at 18:04 +0100, Calum Benson wrote: > Oh yeah... I mentioned in my bug report comment that it might be fine > just to use the 'Save' icon instead, as that's what clicking the button > will do, after all. BTW, I forgot to thank the people who know the HIG by heart and were able to point out issues in the dialog :) So, thanks. Federico _______________________________________________ gnome-hackers mailing list gnome-hackers@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/gnome-hackers From gnome-hackers-bounces@gnome.org Mon Jul 18 09:12:26 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: gnome-hackers-readonly@gnome.org Delivered-To: gnome-hackers-readonly@gnome.org Received: from localhost (unknown [127.0.0.1]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E0F4A3B138E; Mon, 18 Jul 2005 09:12:25 -0400 (EDT) Received: from menubar.gnome.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (menubar.gnome.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 09008-04; Mon, 18 Jul 2005 09:12:23 -0400 (EDT) Received: from menubar.gnome.org (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 68FF83B133C; Mon, 18 Jul 2005 09:12:07 -0400 (EDT) X-Original-To: gnome-hackers@gnome.org Delivered-To: gnome-hackers@gnome.org Received: from localhost (unknown [127.0.0.1]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CD1ED3B132B; Mon, 18 Jul 2005 09:11:58 -0400 (EDT) Received: from menubar.gnome.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (menubar.gnome.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 08826-10; Mon, 18 Jul 2005 09:11:57 -0400 (EDT) Received: from mx1.redhat.com (mx1.redhat.com [66.187.233.31]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B333B3B133C; Mon, 18 Jul 2005 09:11:56 -0400 (EDT) Received: from int-mx1.corp.redhat.com (int-mx1.corp.redhat.com [172.16.52.254]) by mx1.redhat.com (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j6IDBttb007224; Mon, 18 Jul 2005 09:11:56 -0400 Received: from lacrosse.corp.redhat.com (lacrosse.corp.redhat.com [172.16.52.154]) by int-mx1.corp.redhat.com (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id j6IDBoV27250; Mon, 18 Jul 2005 09:11:50 -0400 Received: from golem.boston.redhat.com (golem.boston.redhat.com [172.16.80.24]) by lacrosse.corp.redhat.com (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id j6IDBos31561; Mon, 18 Jul 2005 09:11:50 -0400 From: Matthias Clasen To: gnome-hackers@gnome.org In-Reply-To: <1121460878.10155.3.camel@golem.boston.redhat.com> References: <1121460878.10155.3.camel@golem.boston.redhat.com> Content-Type: text/plain Date: Mon, 18 Jul 2005 09:18:17 -0400 Message-Id: <1121692697.15157.0.camel@golem.boston.redhat.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Evolution 2.2.2 (2.2.2-11.fc5) Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at gnome.org X-BeenThere: gnome-hackers@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Sender: gnome-hackers-bounces@gnome.org Errors-To: gnome-hackers-bounces@gnome.org X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at gnome.org Cc: gnome-announce-list@gnome.org, gtk-devel-list@gnome.org, gtk-app-devel-list@gnome.org, gtk-list@gnome.org Subject: Re: GTK+ 2.7.3 released X-BeenThere: gnome-hackers-readonly@gnome.org Reply-To: gnome-hackers@gnome.org List-Id: Read-only copy of gnome-hackers List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 18 Jul 2005 13:12:26 -0000 On Fri, 2005-07-15 at 16:54 -0400, Matthias Clasen wrote: > GTK+ 2.7.3 is now available for download at: > > ftp://ftp.gtk.org/pub/gtk/v2.7/ > > gtk+-2.7.3.tar.bz2 md5sum: f4b4df474bd8bfdd5764f9025b6907f6 > gtk+-2.7.3.tar.gz md5sum: 80df68e53050efe305366ae952107309 > > > This is the fourth development release loading up to GTK+ 2.8. > I should have mentioned that GTK+ 2.7.3 depends on cvs Cairo. Hopefully there will be a new Cairo release in the next few days. Matthias _______________________________________________ gnome-hackers mailing list gnome-hackers@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/gnome-hackers From gnome-hackers-bounces@gnome.org Tue Jul 12 17:15:39 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: gnome-hackers-readonly@gnome.org Delivered-To: gnome-hackers-readonly@gnome.org Received: from localhost (unknown [127.0.0.1]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D86193B07ED; Tue, 12 Jul 2005 17:15:38 -0400 (EDT) Received: from menubar.gnome.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (menubar.gnome.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 31224-03; Tue, 12 Jul 2005 17:15:37 -0400 (EDT) Received: from menubar.gnome.org (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 44A3A3B0842; Tue, 12 Jul 2005 17:15:35 -0400 (EDT) X-Original-To: gnome-hackers@gnome.org Delivered-To: gnome-hackers@gnome.org Received: from localhost (unknown [127.0.0.1]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 16CC03B06C7 for ; Tue, 12 Jul 2005 10:29:59 -0400 (EDT) Received: from menubar.gnome.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (menubar.gnome.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 26842-03 for ; Tue, 12 Jul 2005 10:29:56 -0400 (EDT) Received: from wproxy.gmail.com (wproxy.gmail.com [64.233.184.198]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2D6743B0AA1 for ; Tue, 12 Jul 2005 10:29:56 -0400 (EDT) Received: by wproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id 37so567591wra for ; Tue, 12 Jul 2005 07:29:55 -0700 (PDT) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:reply-to:to:subject:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition; b=cuS+LaWNp6heTSJVlZT4REipmororNpMlfF2WpK9OD/oET/gX038gPrphoz76Iww9C0XP4hheLF/btW80lzxyX9LjL/igSHNuMFm8vVXW9UXD7dUTfmnfc81odyGpgBgS1qGeaqQ24BUkrEwCEfzea1D5ckvru6TdnwlnxzvOwI= Received: by 10.54.54.41 with SMTP id c41mr4424835wra; Tue, 12 Jul 2005 07:29:18 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.54.89.8 with HTTP; Tue, 12 Jul 2005 07:29:18 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <35fafc14050712072919d737ec@mail.gmail.com> Date: Tue, 12 Jul 2005 15:29:18 +0100 From: Iain * To: gnome-multimedia@gnome.org, gnome-announce-list@gnome.org, gnome-hackers@gnome.org, GStreamer Devel List Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Disposition: inline X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at gnome.org X-Mailman-Approved-At: Tue, 12 Jul 2005 17:15:33 -0400 X-BeenThere: gnome-hackers@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Sender: gnome-hackers-bounces@gnome.org Errors-To: gnome-hackers-bounces@gnome.org X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at gnome.org X-Mailman-Approved-At: Tue, 19 Jul 2005 08:07:35 -0400 Cc: Subject: Marlin 0.8 - The Unix Philosophy is a Lie - Released X-BeenThere: gnome-hackers-readonly@gnome.org Reply-To: gnome-hackers@gnome.org, Iain * List-Id: Read-only copy of gnome-hackers List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 12 Jul 2005 21:15:39 -0000 ******************************************** Marlin 0.8 - The Unix Philosophy Is A Lie ******************************************** Yeah, so after a long time Too long some might say I've got round to making a new Marlin release. Marlin is a sample editor: http://marlin.sourceforge.net http://marlin.sourceforget.net/screenshots.html New stuff in this release: Well, basically, I was adding all this stuff And I hit some limitations So I stopped and decided to add some other stuff And I hit the same limitations I tried again But for a third time hit the limitations So I decided to fix them. This led to the whole core of how Marlin deals with samples in memory being rewritten, which it needed, as it hadn't been touched since like 2002 and it was a bit smelly and embarassing in places. This now means that: * Loading is faster * There is no limit on how large a sample you can load (besides how much disk space you have previously there was a limit of about 2Gb per process) * Code is better, smaller, faster... * Sample drawing code is faster Other cooler stuff * Zero crossing detection added to move and selection dialogs. * Crossfader was finished. * Looping now works faster and doesn't have a click * Markers can be moved around with the keyboard * Invert sample works * Recording works again * Overview bar moves page around via keyboard * Markers can be snapped to ticks * Play clipboard * Marker view can show other scales besides frames * A level ruler was writen for the left side of the sample view * A VZoomed sample can be scrolled around using the level ruler * Infinity signs are used in places. * Overview bar shows markers * Average values are displayed on the sample view. * Overview bar doesn't redraw everything constantly. * Added reverse sample. * Centre on cursor actually does what it says on the tin. * More things undo/redo now as well. See, I've been hard at work. Get it from here: http://prdownloads.sourceforge.net/marlin/marlin-0.8.tar.gz?download CVS is in cvs.gnome.org Bugs to bugzilla.gnome.org Till next time(year?) iainxox _______________________________________________ gnome-hackers mailing list gnome-hackers@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/gnome-hackers From gnome-hackers-bounces@gnome.org Sat Jul 16 03:45:59 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: gnome-hackers-readonly@gnome.org Delivered-To: gnome-hackers-readonly@gnome.org Received: from localhost (unknown [127.0.0.1]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8B62C3B0971; Sat, 16 Jul 2005 03:45:59 -0400 (EDT) Received: from menubar.gnome.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (menubar.gnome.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 06778-03; Sat, 16 Jul 2005 03:45:57 -0400 (EDT) Received: from menubar.gnome.org (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 460663B0A47; Sat, 16 Jul 2005 03:45:57 -0400 (EDT) X-Original-To: gnome-hackers@gnome.org Delivered-To: gnome-hackers@gnome.org Received: from localhost (unknown [127.0.0.1]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CD45A3B06C6 for ; Fri, 15 Jul 2005 18:41:07 -0400 (EDT) Received: from menubar.gnome.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (menubar.gnome.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 10430-02 for ; Fri, 15 Jul 2005 18:41:06 -0400 (EDT) Received: from mail.hal-pc.org (mail.hal-pc.org [206.180.145.133]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 656703B0B56 for ; Fri, 15 Jul 2005 18:41:03 -0400 (EDT) Received: from [151.213.186.133] (HELO [192.168.1.20]) by mail.hal-pc.org (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 4.2.1) with ESMTP id 181855627 for gnome-hackers@gnome.org; Fri, 15 Jul 2005 17:41:02 -0500 Message-ID: <42D83B7E.2020808@hal-pc.org> Date: Fri, 15 Jul 2005 17:41:02 -0500 From: Donn Washburn User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; Linux i586; en-US;rv:1.4) Gecko/20030624 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: gnome-hackers@gnome.org References: <1121460878.10155.3.camel@golem.boston.redhat.com> In-Reply-To: <1121460878.10155.3.camel@golem.boston.redhat.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at gnome.org X-Mailman-Approved-At: Sat, 16 Jul 2005 03:45:55 -0400 X-BeenThere: gnome-hackers@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Sender: gnome-hackers-bounces@gnome.org Errors-To: gnome-hackers-bounces@gnome.org X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at gnome.org X-Mailman-Approved-At: Tue, 19 Jul 2005 08:07:35 -0400 Cc: Subject: Re: GTK+ 2.7.3 released X-BeenThere: gnome-hackers-readonly@gnome.org Reply-To: gnome-hackers@gnome.org List-Id: Read-only copy of gnome-hackers List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 16 Jul 2005 07:45:59 -0000 Compiled very cleanly in SuSE9.3 "make check" passed all parts Now will see what fails! Matthias Clasen wrote: > GTK+ 2.7.3 is now available for download at: > > ftp://ftp.gtk.org/pub/gtk/v2.7/ > > gtk+-2.7.3.tar.bz2 md5sum: f4b4df474bd8bfdd5764f9025b6907f6 > gtk+-2.7.3.tar.gz md5sum: 80df68e53050efe305366ae952107309 > > > This is the fourth development release loading up to GTK+ 2.8. > -- 73 de Donn Washburn Hpage: " http://www.hal-pc.org/~n5xwb " Ham Callsign N5XWB Email: " n5xwb@hal-pc.org " 307 Savoy St. HAMs: " n5xwb@arrl.net " Sugar Land, TX 77478 BMW MOA #: 4146 - Ambassador LL# 1.281.242.3256 " http://counter.li.org " #279316 _______________________________________________ gnome-hackers mailing list gnome-hackers@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/gnome-hackers From gnome-hackers-bounces@gnome.org Sat Jul 16 03:46:00 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: gnome-hackers-readonly@gnome.org Delivered-To: gnome-hackers-readonly@gnome.org Received: from localhost (unknown [127.0.0.1]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id F01173B0971; Sat, 16 Jul 2005 03:45:59 -0400 (EDT) Received: from menubar.gnome.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (menubar.gnome.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 06752-05; Sat, 16 Jul 2005 03:45:57 -0400 (EDT) Received: from menubar.gnome.org (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7778A3B0AC8; Sat, 16 Jul 2005 03:45:57 -0400 (EDT) X-Original-To: gnome-hackers@gnome.org Delivered-To: gnome-hackers@gnome.org Received: from localhost (unknown [127.0.0.1]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 781453B0B0F for ; Fri, 15 Jul 2005 21:22:14 -0400 (EDT) Received: from menubar.gnome.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (menubar.gnome.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 18868-10 for ; Fri, 15 Jul 2005 21:22:11 -0400 (EDT) Received: from rproxy.gmail.com (rproxy.gmail.com [64.233.170.197]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 214AB3B0735 for ; Fri, 15 Jul 2005 21:22:10 -0400 (EDT) Received: by rproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id a41so841897rng for ; Fri, 15 Jul 2005 18:22:09 -0700 (PDT) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:reply-to:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; b=Hr4TSIUTlQvb3fAPizC9tPKQfk7qtPpa9uEj1+0qNmg/pBAddQWnuCyGqstVJvpuUdvHpOFCtIHIiPLRopHiugLQmYVl+P/Ja4qJ2b0ZWWDkePEs/MGwX/26A+HIeSdoo3uN0i8NpzMZfmvSek1KvqFbDkmNZdR+gBWa7Ro+iYo= Received: by 10.38.74.33 with SMTP id w33mr90599rna; Fri, 15 Jul 2005 18:22:09 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.38.10.80 with HTTP; Fri, 15 Jul 2005 18:22:09 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <3e9035250507151822711056b1@mail.gmail.com> Date: Fri, 15 Jul 2005 21:22:09 -0400 From: Mike Emmel To: gnome-hackers@gnome.org In-Reply-To: <1121460878.10155.3.camel@golem.boston.redhat.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Disposition: inline References: <1121460878.10155.3.camel@golem.boston.redhat.com> X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at gnome.org X-Mailman-Approved-At: Sat, 16 Jul 2005 03:45:55 -0400 X-BeenThere: gnome-hackers@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Sender: gnome-hackers-bounces@gnome.org Errors-To: gnome-hackers-bounces@gnome.org X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at gnome.org X-Mailman-Approved-At: Tue, 19 Jul 2005 08:07:35 -0400 Cc: Subject: Re: GTK+ 2.7.3 released X-BeenThere: gnome-hackers-readonly@gnome.org Reply-To: gnome-hackers@gnome.org, Mike Emmel List-Id: Read-only copy of gnome-hackers List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 16 Jul 2005 07:46:00 -0000 Thanks I just finished upgrading the directfb backend to work with 2.7.2 this morning :) On 7/15/05, Matthias Clasen wrote: > GTK+ 2.7.3 is now available for download at: >=20 > ftp://ftp.gtk.org/pub/gtk/v2.7/ >=20 > gtk+-2.7.3.tar.bz2 md5sum: f4b4df474bd8bfdd5764f9025b6907f6 > gtk+-2.7.3.tar.gz md5sum: 80df68e53050efe305366ae952107309 >=20 >=20 > This is the fourth development release loading up to GTK+ 2.8. >=20 >=20 > Notes: >=20 > * This is unstable development release. There are certainly > plenty of bugs remaining to be found. This release should > not be used in production. >=20 > * Installing this version will overwrite your existing > copy of GTK+ 2.6. If you have problems, you'll need > to reinstall GTK+ 2.6.8. >=20 > * GTK+ 2.8 will be source and binary compatible with the GTK+ > 2.6.x series. The new API additions in GTK+ 2.7.x are > finalized at this point, and GTK+ 2.7.x should be considered > API frozen. Unless serious issues with the new APIs come up, > there will be no API changes between this release and the > 2.8.0 release. >=20 > * Remaining issues for GTK+ 2.8 can be found with following > bugzilla query: >=20 > http://bugzilla.gnome.org/buglist.cgi?product=3Dgtk% > 2b&target_milestone=3D2.8+API+Freeze&target_milestone=3D2.8 > +Freeze&bug_status=3DUNCONFIRMED&bug_status=3DNEW&bug_status=3DASSIGNED&b= ug_status=3DREOPENED >=20 > * Bugs should be reported to http://bugzilla.gnome.org. >=20 >=20 > What is GTK+ > =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D >=20 > GTK+ is a multi-platform toolkit for creating graphical user > interfaces. Offering a complete set of widgets, GTK+ is suitable for > projects ranging from small one-off tools to complete application > suites. >=20 > GTK+ has been designed from the ground up to support a range of > languages, not only C/C++. Using GTK+ from languages such as Perl and > Python (especially in combination with the Glade GUI builder) provides > an effective method of rapid application development. >=20 > GTK+ is free software and part of the GNU Project. However, the > licensing terms for GTK+, the GNU LGPL, allow it to be used by all > developers, including those developing proprietary software, without > any license fees or royalties. >=20 >=20 > Where to get more information about GTK+ > =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D >=20 > Information about GTK+ including links to documentation can be > found at: >=20 > http://www.gtk.org/ >=20 > An installation guide for GTK+ 2.x is found at: >=20 > http://developer.gnome.org/doc/API/2.4/gtk/gtk-building.html >=20 > Common questions: >=20 > http://developer.gnome.org/doc/API/2.4/gtk/gtk-question-index.html > http://www.gtk.org/faq/ >=20 >=20 > Overview of Changes from GTK+ 2.7.2 to GTK+ 2.7.3 > =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D > * Make sure that gtk_window_present() moves the window to the > current desktop [Elijah Newren] > * GtkFileChooser > - Add overwrite confirmation for SAVE mode [Federico Mena Quintero] > * GtkTreeView > - Add gtk_tree_view_get_visible_range() [Mikael Hallendal] > - Add gtk_tree_view_column_queue_resize() [Morten Welinder] > - Add gtk_tree_row_reference_get_model() [Stefan Kost] > - Make page up/down behave as in the text view [Owen Taylor] > - In typeahead search, allow Ctrl-G to move to the > next match. [Matt T. Proud] > - Interpret Ctrl-Backspace as "Move focus to parent [Kathy > Fernandes] > - Speed up gtk_tree_selection_selected_foreach [Kristian Rietveld] > * GtkTextView > - Make double-clicking between words select whitespace [Mike > Miller, Paolo Borelli] > - Show dragged text in drag icon [Kevin Duffus, Carlos > Garnacho Parro] > - Make invisible text work well enough to remove the > remove the warning about it being unsupported. [Matthias] > * GtkEntry > - Make double-clicking between words select whitespace [Matthias] > - Show dragged text in drag icon [Kevin Duffus, Carlos Garnacho Parro] > - Fix the sizing of the entry completion popup [Ross Burton, Kris] > * Win32 > - Build fixes [Tor Lillqvist] > - Fix handlink of Aiptek tablets [Robert =D6gren] > * Bug fixes [Kris, Jorn Baayen, Billy Biggs, Tomislav Jonjic, > Owen Taylor, Vincent Noel, Carlos Garnacho Parro, Mark McLoughlin. > Mikael Magnusson, Luis Villa, Brian Bober, Bernd Demian, Manish > Singh, Akira Tagoh, Barbie LeVille, Hans Oesterholt] > * Documentation improvements [Torsten Schoenfeld, Rodney Dawes, > Park Ji-In] > * New and updated translations (cs,es,et,he,hu,nb,nl,no,sk) >=20 >=20 > A list of all bugs fixed in this release can be found at > http://bugzilla.gnome.org/buglist.cgi?bug_id=3D165034,305582,305737,10122= 0,156657,309946,309860,161132,166379,66194,310047,310086,309137,167004,3102= 21,144480,310133,142063,309249,105252,169961,309997,160879,152850,309910 >=20 >=20 > 15 July, 2005 >=20 >=20 > _______________________________________________ > gtk-devel-list mailing list > gtk-devel-list@gnome.org > http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/gtk-devel-list > _______________________________________________ gnome-hackers mailing list gnome-hackers@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/gnome-hackers From gnome-hackers-bounces@gnome.org Tue Jul 19 15:09:35 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: gnome-hackers-readonly@gnome.org Delivered-To: gnome-hackers-readonly@gnome.org Received: from localhost (unknown [127.0.0.1]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E49B13B131C; Tue, 19 Jul 2005 15:09:35 -0400 (EDT) Received: from menubar.gnome.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (menubar.gnome.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 16502-08; Tue, 19 Jul 2005 15:09:32 -0400 (EDT) Received: from menubar.gnome.org (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5ED623B1275; Tue, 19 Jul 2005 15:09:32 -0400 (EDT) X-Original-To: gnome-hackers@gnome.org Delivered-To: gnome-hackers@gnome.org Received: from localhost (unknown [127.0.0.1]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7480E3B1275; Tue, 19 Jul 2005 15:09:27 -0400 (EDT) Received: from menubar.gnome.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (menubar.gnome.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 16481-09; Tue, 19 Jul 2005 15:09:25 -0400 (EDT) Received: from avet.kvota.net (unknown [147.91.15.39]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CDFAF3B1261; Tue, 19 Jul 2005 15:09:24 -0400 (EDT) Received: by avet.kvota.net (Postfix, from userid 1000) id 474947C53E; Tue, 19 Jul 2005 21:09:25 +0200 (CEST) To: desktop-devel-list@gnome.org From: danilo@gnome.org (=?utf-8?q?Danilo_=C5=A0egan?=) Mail-Followup-To: desktop-devel-list@gnome.org, gnome-hackers@gnome.org Date: Tue, 19 Jul 2005 21:09:25 +0200 Message-ID: <87fyua7guy.fsf@avet.kvota.net> User-Agent: Gnus/5.11 (Gnus v5.11) Emacs/21.3.50 (gnu/linux) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at gnome.org X-BeenThere: gnome-hackers@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Sender: gnome-hackers-bounces@gnome.org Errors-To: gnome-hackers-bounces@gnome.org X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at gnome.org Cc: gnome-hackers@gnome.org Subject: ANNOUNCEMENT: Gnome-Doc-Utils Migration Guide X-BeenThere: gnome-hackers-readonly@gnome.org Reply-To: gnome-hackers@gnome.org List-Id: Read-only copy of gnome-hackers List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 19 Jul 2005 19:09:36 -0000 Heya hackers, We've just written a guide to help you migrate your modules to gnome-doc-utils, which will immensly help both documentors and translators. Just head straight over to: http://live.gnome.org/GnomeDocUtilsMigrationHowTo The early winners are bug-buddy (which shaunm converted) and gnome-panel (rock on vuntz!). chpe has been working on enlightening the epiphany behind the scenes, and davyd is already convinced to make g-d-u do the work for gnome-applets. If you need any live help, you can find shaunm or danilo on IRC, but I'm sure other guys with experience will be glad to help as well :) (vuntz, chpe). Worthy of mention is that if you switch your module, you'll get doc translation statistics like those at: http://kvota.net/doc-l10n/by-modules.html (ok, they can be prettier, but that's not high priority yet :). Cheers, Danilo _______________________________________________ gnome-hackers mailing list gnome-hackers@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/gnome-hackers From gnome-hackers-bounces@gnome.org Fri Jul 29 00:42:01 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: gnome-hackers-readonly@gnome.org Delivered-To: gnome-hackers-readonly@gnome.org Received: from localhost (unknown [127.0.0.1]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C6D803B06D9; Fri, 29 Jul 2005 00:42:01 -0400 (EDT) Received: from menubar.gnome.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (menubar.gnome.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 11375-10; Fri, 29 Jul 2005 00:41:59 -0400 (EDT) Received: from menubar.gnome.org (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 10B8D3B1C62; Fri, 29 Jul 2005 00:41:59 -0400 (EDT) X-Original-To: gnome-hackers@gnome.org Delivered-To: gnome-hackers@gnome.org Received: from localhost (unknown [127.0.0.1]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id AC6DF3B06D9 for ; Fri, 29 Jul 2005 00:41:55 -0400 (EDT) Received: from menubar.gnome.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (menubar.gnome.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 11380-05 for ; Fri, 29 Jul 2005 00:41:53 -0400 (EDT) Received: from indy.ph.unimelb.edu.au (indy.ph.unimelb.edu.au [128.250.54.6]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with SMTP id D537C3B11A8 for ; Fri, 29 Jul 2005 00:41:51 -0400 (EDT) Received: (qmail 25299 invoked from network); 29 Jul 2005 04:30:55 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO seviorpc.ph.unimelb.edu.au) (128.250.50.6) by indy.ph.unimelb.edu.au with SMTP; 29 Jul 2005 04:30:55 -0000 From: Martin Sevior To: Christian Rose In-Reply-To: <1118610714.27184.1233.camel@stina.menthos.com> References: <42431.211.28.207.95.1118493946.squirrel@kiosk.ph.unimelb.edu.au> <20050611165251.GD8699@localhost.localdomain> <1118528004.27184.1149.camel@stina.menthos.com> <43187.211.28.207.95.1118542427.squirrel@kiosk1.ph.unimelb.edu.au> <1118610714.27184.1233.camel@stina.menthos.com> Content-Type: text/plain Organization: University of Melbourne Date: Fri, 29 Jul 2005 14:41:05 +1000 Message-Id: <1122612065.10303.509.camel@seviorpc> Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Evolution 2.2.2 (2.2.2-5) Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at gnome.org X-BeenThere: gnome-hackers@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Sender: gnome-hackers-bounces@gnome.org Errors-To: gnome-hackers-bounces@gnome.org X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at gnome.org Cc: gnome-sysadmin@gnome.org, gnome-hackers@gnome.org Subject: AbiWord-2.3.4 uploaded. X-BeenThere: gnome-hackers-readonly@gnome.org Reply-To: gnome-hackers@gnome.org, msevior@physics.unimelb.edu.au List-Id: Read-only copy of gnome-hackers List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 29 Jul 2005 04:42:02 -0000 Hi Christian and the rest of the gnome-sysadmin team. I've uploaded AbiWord-2.3.4 to the gnome ftp servers. I believe a development version of Gnumeric will be uploaded shortly. AbiWord, Gnumeric and I believe GNOME-DB will be proposed as the initial packages for the "productivity-set" of GNOME. Should further discussion take place on gnome-devel? Cheers Martin _______________________________________________ gnome-hackers mailing list gnome-hackers@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/gnome-hackers From gnome-hackers-bounces@gnome.org Fri Jul 29 02:32:15 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: gnome-hackers-readonly@gnome.org Delivered-To: gnome-hackers-readonly@gnome.org Received: from localhost (unknown [127.0.0.1]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 113EF3B0ABC; Fri, 29 Jul 2005 02:32:15 -0400 (EDT) Received: from menubar.gnome.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (menubar.gnome.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 18522-02; Fri, 29 Jul 2005 02:32:12 -0400 (EDT) Received: from menubar.gnome.org (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 242E83B066C; Fri, 29 Jul 2005 02:32:12 -0400 (EDT) X-Original-To: gnome-hackers@gnome.org Delivered-To: gnome-hackers@gnome.org Received: from localhost (unknown [127.0.0.1]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D69AA3B088C for ; Fri, 29 Jul 2005 02:32:08 -0400 (EDT) Received: from menubar.gnome.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (menubar.gnome.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 18394-10 for ; Fri, 29 Jul 2005 02:32:06 -0400 (EDT) Received: from indy.ph.unimelb.edu.au (indy.ph.unimelb.edu.au [128.250.54.6]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 96E213B066C for ; Fri, 29 Jul 2005 02:32:02 -0400 (EDT) Received: (qmail 3529 invoked from network); 29 Jul 2005 06:21:06 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO kiosk.ph.unimelb.edu.au) (128.250.54.43) by indy.ph.unimelb.edu.au with SMTP; 29 Jul 2005 06:21:06 -0000 Received: from 211.28.141.229 (SquirrelMail authenticated user msevior) by kiosk.ph.unimelb.edu.au with HTTP; Fri, 29 Jul 2005 16:32:01 +1000 (EST) Message-ID: <6190.211.28.141.229.1122618721.squirrel@kiosk.ph.unimelb.edu.au> In-Reply-To: <2cb10c4405072614493cf8efea@mail.gmail.com> References: <2cb10c4405072614493cf8efea@mail.gmail.com> Date: Fri, 29 Jul 2005 16:32:01 +1000 (EST) From: msevior@physics.unimelb.edu.au To: gnome-hackers@gnome.org, "Luis Villa" User-Agent: SquirrelMail/1.4.5 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain;charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at gnome.org X-BeenThere: gnome-hackers@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Sender: gnome-hackers-bounces@gnome.org Errors-To: gnome-hackers-bounces@gnome.org X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at gnome.org Cc: Desktop Devel , devel-announce-list@gnome.org Subject: Re: new modules for 2.12 X-BeenThere: gnome-hackers-readonly@gnome.org Reply-To: gnome-hackers@gnome.org List-Id: Read-only copy of gnome-hackers List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 29 Jul 2005 06:32:15 -0000 > The release team met last week, and we talked a bit about the new > module stuff. As usual, we tried to understand and reflect the > community consensus as reflected in d-d-l and other forums, with the > understanding that sometimes we have to, you know, go ahead and decide > ;) > > In: > * evince: It's clearly a great, very gnome-y app. We'd like to thank > the ggv and gpdf authors for all the work they've done over the years. > > * services-admin: is now fairly polished and the maintainer wants it > in, and no one has objected to that. > > * gnome-keyring-manager: underwent a lot of work after the last round > of objections, and has not been objected to in its new format. Not > getting releases very regularly, though; we need that to change or > we'll have to punt it to 2.14. > > Punted to 2.13/2.14 > * eggcups: this was pushed very late, and partially as a result there > is a lack of clarity and consensus here, particularly with regards to > the relationship of this to other pieces of the printing stack. We > look forward to those issues getting straightened out at the summit ;) > > * productivity/office suite: the discussions about where this would > fit, what the rules would be, etc., were never very conclusive; it > wasn't even clear whether or not this was our problem, so maybe it > isn't :) We'd love to see this stuff release on our schedule, and for > the folks involved including the heads of the various teams and the > heads of the various projects sit down and come to some conclusions. > Perhaps that'll happen at the summit too; if not, it needs to happen > somewhere else and obviously in time for 2.14. > HI Luis, The productivity/Office suite will contain AbiWord-2.4, Gnumeric-1.6 and probabally GNOME-db (I haven't had confirmation from Rodrigo yet but he has said that it would be ready previously and I only just asked him a few hours ago.) Martin > Luis (hoping this one isn't quite as second-guessed as the last one ;) > -- > devel-announce-list mailing list > devel-announce-list@gnome.org > http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/devel-announce-list > _______________________________________________ gnome-hackers mailing list gnome-hackers@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/gnome-hackers From gnome-hackers-bounces@gnome.org Fri Jul 29 04:21:55 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: gnome-hackers-readonly@gnome.org Delivered-To: gnome-hackers-readonly@gnome.org Received: from localhost (unknown [127.0.0.1]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BC8523B066B; Fri, 29 Jul 2005 04:21:55 -0400 (EDT) Received: from menubar.gnome.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (menubar.gnome.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 28294-09; Fri, 29 Jul 2005 04:21:53 -0400 (EDT) Received: from menubar.gnome.org (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id AD2AE3B0929; Fri, 29 Jul 2005 04:21:53 -0400 (EDT) X-Original-To: gnome-hackers@gnome.org Delivered-To: gnome-hackers@gnome.org Received: from localhost (unknown [127.0.0.1]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C0BDE3B1C5D; Fri, 29 Jul 2005 04:21:49 -0400 (EDT) Received: from menubar.gnome.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (menubar.gnome.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 28294-07; Fri, 29 Jul 2005 04:21:47 -0400 (EDT) Received: from jareth.dreamhost.com (jareth.dreamhost.com [66.33.198.201]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 222EC3B0BC7; Fri, 29 Jul 2005 04:21:47 -0400 (EDT) Received: from [192.168.1.100] (p5498C97F.dip.t-dialin.net [84.152.201.127]) by jareth.dreamhost.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5E6636B63D; Fri, 29 Jul 2005 01:21:44 -0700 (PDT) From: Murray Cumming To: msevior@physics.unimelb.edu.au In-Reply-To: <1122612065.10303.509.camel@seviorpc> References: <42431.211.28.207.95.1118493946.squirrel@kiosk.ph.unimelb.edu.au> <20050611165251.GD8699@localhost.localdomain> <1118528004.27184.1149.camel@stina.menthos.com> <43187.211.28.207.95.1118542427.squirrel@kiosk1.ph.unimelb.edu.au> <1118610714.27184.1233.camel@stina.menthos.com> <1122612065.10303.509.camel@seviorpc> Content-Type: text/plain Date: Fri, 29 Jul 2005 10:21:43 +0200 Message-Id: <1122625303.5074.27.camel@localhost.localdomain> Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Evolution 2.0.4 (2.0.4-4) Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at gnome.org X-BeenThere: gnome-hackers@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Sender: gnome-hackers-bounces@gnome.org Errors-To: gnome-hackers-bounces@gnome.org X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at gnome.org Cc: gnome-sysadmin , Gnome Hackers , Christian Rose Subject: Re: AbiWord-2.3.4 uploaded. X-BeenThere: gnome-hackers-readonly@gnome.org Reply-To: gnome-hackers@gnome.org List-Id: Read-only copy of gnome-hackers List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 29 Jul 2005 08:21:55 -0000 On Fri, 2005-07-29 at 14:41 +1000, Martin Sevior wrote: > Hi Christian and the rest of the gnome-sysadmin team. > > I've uploaded AbiWord-2.3.4 to the gnome ftp servers. I believe a > development version of Gnumeric will be uploaded shortly. > > AbiWord, Gnumeric and I believe GNOME-DB I assume that you mean "mergeant". > will be proposed as the initial > packages for the "productivity-set" of GNOME. Please remember that this will be a beta, non official, release set that just happens to (try to) follow the GNOME schedule. > Should further discussion take place on gnome-devel? d-d-l or release-team is probably more appropriate. -- Murray Cumming murrayc@murrayc.com www.murrayc.com www.openismus.com _______________________________________________ gnome-hackers mailing list gnome-hackers@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/gnome-hackers From gnome-hackers-bounces@gnome.org Fri Jul 29 04:43:41 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: gnome-hackers-readonly@gnome.org Delivered-To: gnome-hackers-readonly@gnome.org Received: from localhost (unknown [127.0.0.1]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BB9723B1CD8; Fri, 29 Jul 2005 04:43:40 -0400 (EDT) Received: from menubar.gnome.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (menubar.gnome.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 30401-07; Fri, 29 Jul 2005 04:43:38 -0400 (EDT) Received: from menubar.gnome.org (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BB8AF3B1CCD; Fri, 29 Jul 2005 04:43:30 -0400 (EDT) X-Original-To: gnome-hackers@gnome.org Delivered-To: gnome-hackers@gnome.org Received: from localhost (unknown [127.0.0.1]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6CCC83B1CBF for ; Fri, 29 Jul 2005 04:43:25 -0400 (EDT) Received: from menubar.gnome.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (menubar.gnome.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 30331-06 for ; Fri, 29 Jul 2005 04:43:25 -0400 (EDT) Received: from peabody.ximian.com (peabody.ximian.com [130.57.169.10]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1416F3B1C64 for ; Fri, 29 Jul 2005 04:43:22 -0400 (EDT) Received: (qmail 696 invoked from network); 29 Jul 2005 08:43:18 -0000 Received: from localhost (HELO ?164.99.120.141?) (127.0.0.1) by localhost with SMTP; 29 Jul 2005 08:43:18 -0000 From: Rodrigo Moya To: msevior@physics.unimelb.edu.au In-Reply-To: <6190.211.28.141.229.1122618721.squirrel@kiosk.ph.unimelb.edu.au> References: <2cb10c4405072614493cf8efea@mail.gmail.com> <6190.211.28.141.229.1122618721.squirrel@kiosk.ph.unimelb.edu.au> Content-Type: text/plain Date: Fri, 29 Jul 2005 10:41:42 +0200 Message-Id: <1122626502.9233.5.camel@formigal.home> Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Evolution 2.3.3 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at gnome.org X-BeenThere: gnome-hackers@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Sender: gnome-hackers-bounces@gnome.org Errors-To: gnome-hackers-bounces@gnome.org X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at gnome.org Cc: Luis Villa , Desktop Devel , gnome-hackers@gnome.org, devel-announce-list@gnome.org Subject: Re: new modules for 2.12 X-BeenThere: gnome-hackers-readonly@gnome.org Reply-To: gnome-hackers@gnome.org List-Id: Read-only copy of gnome-hackers List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 29 Jul 2005 08:43:41 -0000 On Fri, 2005-07-29 at 16:32 +1000, msevior@physics.unimelb.edu.au wrote: > > The release team met last week, and we talked a bit about the new > > module stuff. As usual, we tried to understand and reflect the > > community consensus as reflected in d-d-l and other forums, with the > > understanding that sometimes we have to, you know, go ahead and decide > > ;) > > > > In: > > * evince: It's clearly a great, very gnome-y app. We'd like to thank > > the ggv and gpdf authors for all the work they've done over the years. > > > > * services-admin: is now fairly polished and the maintainer wants it > > in, and no one has objected to that. > > > > * gnome-keyring-manager: underwent a lot of work after the last round > > of objections, and has not been objected to in its new format. Not > > getting releases very regularly, though; we need that to change or > > we'll have to punt it to 2.14. > > > > Punted to 2.13/2.14 > > * eggcups: this was pushed very late, and partially as a result there > > is a lack of clarity and consensus here, particularly with regards to > > the relationship of this to other pieces of the printing stack. We > > look forward to those issues getting straightened out at the summit ;) > > > > * productivity/office suite: the discussions about where this would > > fit, what the rules would be, etc., were never very conclusive; it > > wasn't even clear whether or not this was our problem, so maybe it > > isn't :) We'd love to see this stuff release on our schedule, and for > > the folks involved including the heads of the various teams and the > > heads of the various projects sit down and come to some conclusions. > > Perhaps that'll happen at the summit too; if not, it needs to happen > > somewhere else and obviously in time for 2.14. > > > > HI Luis, > The productivity/Office suite will contain AbiWord-2.4, > Gnumeric-1.6 and probabally GNOME-db (I haven't had confirmation > from Rodrigo yet but he has said that it would be ready previously > and I only just asked him a few hours ago.) > yes, gnome-db will be ready, we are about to freeze for releasing at gnome 2.12 time. -- Rodrigo Moya _______________________________________________ gnome-hackers mailing list gnome-hackers@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/gnome-hackers From gnome-hackers-bounces@gnome.org Sat Jul 30 00:09:18 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: gnome-hackers-readonly@gnome.org Delivered-To: gnome-hackers-readonly@gnome.org Received: from localhost (unknown [127.0.0.1]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1FCD73B12D1; Sat, 30 Jul 2005 00:09:18 -0400 (EDT) Received: from menubar.gnome.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (menubar.gnome.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 13504-08; Sat, 30 Jul 2005 00:09:16 -0400 (EDT) Received: from menubar.gnome.org (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3742E3B12C2; Sat, 30 Jul 2005 00:09:16 -0400 (EDT) X-Original-To: gnome-hackers@gnome.org Delivered-To: gnome-hackers@gnome.org Received: from localhost (unknown [127.0.0.1]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8EE0F3B12D8 for ; Sat, 30 Jul 2005 00:09:11 -0400 (EDT) Received: from menubar.gnome.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (menubar.gnome.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 13521-05 for ; Sat, 30 Jul 2005 00:09:08 -0400 (EDT) Received: from oracle.bridgewayconsulting.com.au (oracle.bridgewayconsulting.com.au [203.56.14.38]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 32D7A3B12C2 for ; Sat, 30 Jul 2005 00:09:08 -0400 (EDT) Received: from frobisher.madeley (cugglephone.madeley.id.au [203.56.15.217]) (using TLSv1 with cipher RC4-MD5 (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by oracle.bridgewayconsulting.com.au (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5CFC42E8004 for ; Sat, 30 Jul 2005 12:09:01 +0800 (WST) From: Davyd Madeley To: gnome-hackers@gnome.org Content-Type: text/plain Date: Sat, 30 Jul 2005 12:08:58 +0800 Message-Id: <1122696538.5750.7.camel@frobisher.madeley.id.au> Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Evolution 2.3.6 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at gnome.org X-BeenThere: gnome-hackers@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Sender: gnome-hackers-bounces@gnome.org Errors-To: gnome-hackers-bounces@gnome.org X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at gnome.org Cc: Subject: G2.12 Prerelease Tour X-BeenThere: gnome-hackers-readonly@gnome.org Reply-To: gnome-hackers@gnome.org List-Id: Read-only copy of gnome-hackers List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 30 Jul 2005 04:09:18 -0000 I haven't yet announced it on my blog. I want to make sure that I haven't said anything that is wrong, or left anything out. http://www.gnome.org/~davyd/gnome-2-12/ I am currently missing Epiphany screenshots, as I can't seem to get any of that stuff working. If someone wants to send me raw screenshots in the same theme and font sizes, I can add them in. --d -- Davyd Madeley http://www.davyd.id.au/ 08B0 341A 0B9B 08BB 2118 C060 2EDD BB4F 5191 6CDA _______________________________________________ gnome-hackers mailing list gnome-hackers@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/gnome-hackers From gnome-hackers-bounces@gnome.org Sat Jul 30 08:56:16 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: gnome-hackers-readonly@gnome.org Delivered-To: gnome-hackers-readonly@gnome.org Received: from localhost (unknown [127.0.0.1]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 822B03B13AD; Sat, 30 Jul 2005 08:56:16 -0400 (EDT) Received: from menubar.gnome.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (menubar.gnome.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 13098-10; Sat, 30 Jul 2005 08:56:14 -0400 (EDT) Received: from menubar.gnome.org (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BDD7F3B1398; Sat, 30 Jul 2005 08:56:14 -0400 (EDT) X-Original-To: gnome-hackers@gnome.org Delivered-To: gnome-hackers@gnome.org Received: from localhost (unknown [127.0.0.1]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 91C483B1398 for ; Sat, 30 Jul 2005 08:56:12 -0400 (EDT) Received: from menubar.gnome.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (menubar.gnome.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 13131-08 for ; Sat, 30 Jul 2005 08:56:10 -0400 (EDT) Received: from smtp.nildram.co.uk (smtp.nildram.co.uk [195.112.4.54]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3F39C3B13AF for ; Sat, 30 Jul 2005 08:56:10 -0400 (EDT) Received: from burtonini.com (althur.gotadsl.co.uk [84.12.135.175]) by smtp.nildram.co.uk (Postfix) with ESMTP id 942A1252C01 for ; Sat, 30 Jul 2005 13:56:06 +0100 (BST) Received: from 127.0.0.1 (ident=unknown) by burtonini.com with esmtp (masqmail 0.2.20) id 1Dyqsn-3qc-00 for ; Sat, 30 Jul 2005 13:56:05 +0100 From: Ross Burton To: gnome-hackers@gnome.org In-Reply-To: <1122696538.5750.7.camel@frobisher.madeley.id.au> References: <1122696538.5750.7.camel@frobisher.madeley.id.au> Content-Type: text/plain Date: Sat, 30 Jul 2005 13:56:03 +0100 Message-Id: <1122728163.22761.2.camel@localhost.localdomain> Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Evolution 2.2.1.1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at gnome.org X-BeenThere: gnome-hackers@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Sender: gnome-hackers-bounces@gnome.org Errors-To: gnome-hackers-bounces@gnome.org X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at gnome.org Cc: Subject: Re: G2.12 Prerelease Tour X-BeenThere: gnome-hackers-readonly@gnome.org Reply-To: gnome-hackers@gnome.org List-Id: Read-only copy of gnome-hackers List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 30 Jul 2005 12:56:16 -0000 On Sat, 2005-07-30 at 12:08 +0800, Davyd Madeley wrote: > I haven't yet announced it on my blog. I want to make sure that I > haven't said anything that is wrong, or left anything out. > > http://www.gnome.org/~davyd/gnome-2-12/ > > I am currently missing Epiphany screenshots, as I can't seem to get any > of that stuff working. If someone wants to send me raw screenshots in > the same theme and font sizes, I can add them in. You'll want to re-take the Sound Juicer screenshot, the UI has changed a little since that was taken. Ross -- Ross Burton mail: ross@burtonini.com jabber: ross@burtonini.com www: http://www.burtonini.com./ PGP Fingerprint: 1A21 F5B0 D8D0 CFE3 81D4 E25A 2D09 E447 D0B4 33DF _______________________________________________ gnome-hackers mailing list gnome-hackers@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/gnome-hackers From gnome-hackers-bounces@gnome.org Sun Jul 31 07:09:22 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: gnome-hackers-readonly@gnome.org Delivered-To: gnome-hackers-readonly@gnome.org Received: from localhost (unknown [127.0.0.1]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 03A863B06EC; Sun, 31 Jul 2005 07:09:22 -0400 (EDT) Received: from menubar.gnome.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (menubar.gnome.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 04870-01; Sun, 31 Jul 2005 07:09:20 -0400 (EDT) Received: from menubar.gnome.org (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 611D33B06DF; Sun, 31 Jul 2005 07:09:20 -0400 (EDT) X-Original-To: gnome-hackers@gnome.org Delivered-To: gnome-hackers@gnome.org Received: from localhost (unknown [127.0.0.1]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8F4753B068A for ; Sun, 31 Jul 2005 07:09:18 -0400 (EDT) Received: from menubar.gnome.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (menubar.gnome.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 04841-05 for ; Sun, 31 Jul 2005 07:09:17 -0400 (EDT) Received: from lucifer.nerdfest.org (lucifer.nerdfest.org [216.243.209.218]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9492B3B0011 for ; Sun, 31 Jul 2005 07:09:16 -0400 (EDT) Received: from [192.168.1.5] (cpc4-glfd1-4-0-cust97.glfd.cable.ntl.com [82.15.237.97]) (authenticated bits=0) by lucifer.nerdfest.org (8.13.1/8.13.1) with ESMTP id j6VB9AWj008695 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=RC4-MD5 bits=128 verify=NO); Sun, 31 Jul 2005 06:09:13 -0500 From: Bastien Nocera To: Davyd Madeley In-Reply-To: <1122696538.5750.7.camel@frobisher.madeley.id.au> References: <1122696538.5750.7.camel@frobisher.madeley.id.au> Content-Type: text/plain Date: Sun, 31 Jul 2005 12:13:57 +0100 Message-Id: <1122808437.30343.50.camel@wyatt.hadess.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Evolution 2.2.2 (2.2.2-5) Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Virus-Scanned: ClamAV 0.85.1/998/Sat Jul 30 19:09:32 2005 on lucifer.nerdfest.org X-Virus-Status: Clean X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at gnome.org X-BeenThere: gnome-hackers@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Sender: gnome-hackers-bounces@gnome.org Errors-To: gnome-hackers-bounces@gnome.org X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at gnome.org Cc: gnome-hackers@gnome.org Subject: Re: G2.12 Prerelease Tour X-BeenThere: gnome-hackers-readonly@gnome.org Reply-To: gnome-hackers@gnome.org List-Id: Read-only copy of gnome-hackers List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 31 Jul 2005 11:09:22 -0000 Hey Davyd, On Sat, 2005-07-30 at 12:08 +0800, Davyd Madeley wrote: > I haven't yet announced it on my blog. I want to make sure that I > haven't said anything that is wrong, or left anything out. > > http://www.gnome.org/~davyd/gnome-2-12/ > > I am currently missing Epiphany screenshots, as I can't seem to get any > of that stuff working. If someone wants to send me raw screenshots in > the same theme and font sizes, I can add them in. Good stuff. Here's a couple of comments: "The new Evolution [has] the ability to do inline media playing" I'd like to know how that was implemented, and where, so if anyone has pointers. Control Center's About me: You should rather have some imaginary person's details there, unless you want the /. crowd to call you at home... "These cursors themes will instant apply with GTK+ 2.8." Why does the dialog say the contrary? Is that a bug in the dialog? "a movie trailer playing inside Firefox" You could change that to s/Firefox/Epiphany/ as it's the default browser in GNOME, without bothering taking a new screenshot: it will look exactly the same ;) "Nautilus now offers drag and drop capabilities from audio CDs" Wasn't that there for ages in the cdda: gnome-vfs method? "audio CD copying has been added to Nautilus' CD burning functionality." CD copying was added, not just audio CD copying. "Evince can (or will soon) handle DVI, and TIFF files, as well as OpenOffice.org Impress and Microsoft Powerpoint presentations." The Impress and PPT support is still being discussed, you'd rather not mention them, or say that they are being developed, but this sentence will probably confuse people as to what's available right now. Cheers --- Bastien Nocera _______________________________________________ gnome-hackers mailing list gnome-hackers@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/gnome-hackers From gnome-hackers-bounces@gnome.org Sun Jul 31 09:04:26 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: gnome-hackers-readonly@gnome.org Delivered-To: gnome-hackers-readonly@gnome.org Received: from localhost (unknown [127.0.0.1]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4BE3A3B06EC; Sun, 31 Jul 2005 09:04:26 -0400 (EDT) Received: from menubar.gnome.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (menubar.gnome.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 11959-01; Sun, 31 Jul 2005 09:04:24 -0400 (EDT) Received: from menubar.gnome.org (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A924D3B0660; Sun, 31 Jul 2005 09:04:24 -0400 (EDT) X-Original-To: gnome-hackers@gnome.org Delivered-To: gnome-hackers@gnome.org Received: from localhost (unknown [127.0.0.1]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 642A13B0899 for ; Sun, 31 Jul 2005 09:04:22 -0400 (EDT) Received: from menubar.gnome.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (menubar.gnome.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 11943-02 for ; Sun, 31 Jul 2005 09:04:19 -0400 (EDT) Received: from amsfep20-int.chello.nl (amsfep12-int.chello.nl [213.46.243.17]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BD67E3B06EC for ; Sun, 31 Jul 2005 09:04:18 -0400 (EDT) Received: from bkor.dhs.org ([213.46.206.67]) by amsfep20-int.chello.nl (InterMail vM.6.01.04.04 201-2131-118-104-20050224) with ESMTP id <20050731130406.HLYW2457.amsfep20-int.chello.nl@bkor.dhs.org>; Sun, 31 Jul 2005 15:04:06 +0200 Received: by bkor.dhs.org (Postfix, from userid 501) id 48F2221236B; Sun, 31 Jul 2005 15:04:05 +0200 (CEST) Date: Sun, 31 Jul 2005 15:04:04 +0200 From: Olav Vitters To: gnome-hackers@gnome.org Message-ID: <20050731130404.GE9127@bkor.dhs.org> References: <1122696538.5750.7.camel@frobisher.madeley.id.au> <1122808437.30343.50.camel@wyatt.hadess.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <1122808437.30343.50.camel@wyatt.hadess.net> User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.9i X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at gnome.org X-BeenThere: gnome-hackers@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Sender: gnome-hackers-bounces@gnome.org Errors-To: gnome-hackers-bounces@gnome.org X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at gnome.org Cc: Davyd Madeley Subject: Re: G2.12 Prerelease Tour X-BeenThere: gnome-hackers-readonly@gnome.org Reply-To: gnome-hackers@gnome.org List-Id: Read-only copy of gnome-hackers List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 31 Jul 2005 13:04:26 -0000 On Sun, Jul 31, 2005 at 12:13:57PM +0100, Bastien Nocera wrote: > "These cursors themes will instant apply with GTK+ 2.8." > Why does the dialog say the contrary? Is that a bug in the dialog? This has been fixed in bug 312070. -- Regards, Olav _______________________________________________ gnome-hackers mailing list gnome-hackers@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/gnome-hackers From gnome-hackers-bounces@gnome.org Sat Jul 30 16:06:32 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: gnome-hackers-readonly@gnome.org Delivered-To: gnome-hackers-readonly@gnome.org Received: from localhost (unknown [127.0.0.1]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CACFD3B12EE; Sat, 30 Jul 2005 16:06:32 -0400 (EDT) Received: from menubar.gnome.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (menubar.gnome.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 10907-03; Sat, 30 Jul 2005 16:06:30 -0400 (EDT) Received: from menubar.gnome.org (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1E9503B13BC; Sat, 30 Jul 2005 16:06:30 -0400 (EDT) X-Original-To: gnome-hackers@gnome.org Delivered-To: gnome-hackers@gnome.org Received: from localhost (unknown [127.0.0.1]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3FCD93B11CA for ; Sat, 30 Jul 2005 11:34:06 -0400 (EDT) Received: from menubar.gnome.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (menubar.gnome.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 23472-07 for ; Sat, 30 Jul 2005 11:34:03 -0400 (EDT) Received: from peabody.ximian.com (peabody.ximian.com [130.57.169.10]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D2E393B0D98 for ; Sat, 30 Jul 2005 11:34:02 -0400 (EDT) Received: (qmail 2094 invoked from network); 30 Jul 2005 15:34:02 -0000 Received: from localhost (HELO phantasy) (127.0.0.1) by localhost with SMTP; 30 Jul 2005 15:34:02 -0000 From: Robert Love To: Davyd Madeley In-Reply-To: <1122696538.5750.7.camel@frobisher.madeley.id.au> References: <1122696538.5750.7.camel@frobisher.madeley.id.au> Content-Type: text/plain Date: Sat, 30 Jul 2005 11:33:57 -0400 Message-Id: <1122737637.7128.30.camel@phantasy> Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Evolution 2.2.1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at gnome.org X-Mailman-Approved-At: Sat, 30 Jul 2005 16:06:26 -0400 X-BeenThere: gnome-hackers@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Sender: gnome-hackers-bounces@gnome.org Errors-To: gnome-hackers-bounces@gnome.org X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at gnome.org X-Mailman-Approved-At: Wed, 03 Aug 2005 09:35:56 -0400 Cc: gnome-hackers@gnome.org Subject: Re: G2.12 Prerelease Tour X-BeenThere: gnome-hackers-readonly@gnome.org Reply-To: gnome-hackers@gnome.org List-Id: Read-only copy of gnome-hackers List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 30 Jul 2005 20:06:33 -0000 On Sat, 2005-07-30 at 12:08 +0800, Davyd Madeley wrote: > I haven't yet announced it on my blog. I want to make sure that I > haven't said anything that is wrong, or left anything out. Under Panel & Applets, s/is now offers/now offers/ Well done, old chap. Robert Love _______________________________________________ gnome-hackers mailing list gnome-hackers@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/gnome-hackers