Re: GMC feedback / comments

[Ronald de Man <deman win tue nl>]

On Thu, Mar 04, 1999 at 11:09:49PM +0100, Georg C. F. Greve wrote:
>  || On 4 Mar 1999 21:42:38 +0100
>  || deman@win.tue.nl (Ronald de Man) wrote: 
> 
>  rdm> Accidentally dragging & dropping from one gmc window to the other also moves
>  rdm> the file, so is equally dangerous.
> 
> Not really. It is the default behaviour with all desktop environments
> that icons are just a link by default. So if one accidentally drags
> some file on his/her desktop he will just delete it assuming he'll
> just delete the link/icon because that's the way it works with all the 
> other desktop environments.

Are you sure? Also with Windows 95? I'm pretty sure that today at work
I moved some documents from a folder onto the desktop and that these
were no shortcuts, the documents were really removed from the folder.

> 
> It is good to be able to choose from different actions but the
> default action should definitely be a link because it is much safer
> for the data.
> 
> Apart from that if one wants to create executables on the desktop gmc
> will complain because they are owned by root and naturally the user
> doesn't have permission to delete them (which is essentially what a
> move would result in).

True. In this case linking is more natural. And inconsistent dragging
behaviour depending on the type of file is probably not what we want.
So maybe I should agree with you.

> 
> It would be considerable to have a kind of wrapping script in your
> desktop directory that does the actual starting of the program, too.
> 
>  rdm> Do you mean adding mime-types and corresponding applications? (I've used
>  rdm> KDE for some time, but I'm not really sure about those templates anymore.)
>  rdm> Being able to add mime-types and actions within gmc is certainly something
>  rdm> that's needed (or is it there somewhere and I just can't find it?).
> 
> They got stuff like "folder" "program" "file" "device" and such (it's
> been a while since I used it). You copy it (which would be the second
> best choice for  drag and drop, by the way) and then you modify the
> template.

A drag and drop from a flopppy to the desktop should (and probably is,
I haven't tried it yet) be a copy. So it's pretty much impossible to have
really consistent behaviour.

Removable media       -> copy
User files            -> move
System files/programs -> link

But I don't dare asking for this :)


> 
> If it would be added to the right button menu you could click on your
> desktop, select a program, get a "program" template, select it's
> properties and then enter the program with it's parameters... 

I vaguely remember this, but still only vaguely. Maybe I didn't really
get it when I tried it out.

> 
>  >> O.k. - that's what immediately crossed my mind when using it,
>  rdm> The built-in viewer of text files has some scrolling bugs. Moving the
>  rdm> scrollbar gives a very shaky effect, and using the little arrows does
> 
> Oh - this reminded me. That scrolling only works on Mondays when the
> sun shines. .-)
> 
>  rdm> not have a real effect (it moves but moves right back). I've tried to
>  rdm> fix this, but have not yet succeeded. One of the problems is that
>  rdm> GtkAdjustment is a bit inconsistent (when the scrollbar is at the
>  rdm> bottom, and you click the down arrow, the GtkAdjustment value decreases
>  rdm> and the view scrolls one line up).
> 
> I know. I am having some trouble with the GtkAdjustment on a GtkText
> widget in the Xlogmaster, too.

The scrollbar in the directory tree window of gmc doesn't seem to suffer
from this problem. I haven't looked yet at how scrolling is handled there.

Ronald