Re: conflict? gnome updater vs. RH up2date

[<mjbjr beaudesign com>]

On Mon, 17 Jul 2000, Ian Peters wrote:

> On Sun, Jul 16, 2000 at 11:56:07PM -0700, mjbjr@beaudesign.com wrote:
> > Please excuse my ignorance here, but in theory, isn't the creator of an
> > rpm package for software 'foo' supposed to follow the installation
> > directions that would be found in foo.tar.gz, *except* when creating
> > foo.rpm *for Redhat*, or foo.rpm *for Caldera*, or someother distro that
> > wants things differently than the "norm". And whose installation
> > guidelines is helix following?  
> 
> Helix is attempting to follow FHS as much as possible, while
> integrating with the users distribution.  This means that packages
> are installed into /usr, configuration information in /etc, and so
> on.
> 

Where can I find the FHS "rules"?

> Packages are not supposed to install into /usr/local.  The
> /usr/local tree is the specific domain of the user, for packages
> installed by hand, and must not be touched by the package
> manager.
> 
> > Now, on my current system, which I built in Nov 1999 using RH6.1, I've
> > been careful to use the rh 'up2date' with Priority Access to keep the core
> > system packages updated consistently.  Two weeks ago, I ran the helix
> > installer program (all packages), which I liked, but later discovered
> > killed 'up2date'. So, a few days ago, I did a second helix-update in hopes
> > of getting 'up2date' functioning again, but no joy, so far.
> 
> This has been fixed now, so please give us one last chance.
> 

OK, but not tonight, I'm too tired just now.  :)

> > I'm willing to accept what ever "blame" I need to for the problem I'm
> > having, all the same:
> > 
> > [root@localhost /root]# rpm -q gtk+
> > gtk+-1.2.8-0_helix_1
> > 
> > [root@localhost /root]# rpm -q pygtk 
> > pygtk-0.6.6-0_helix_2
> 
> Do you have python installed also via rpm?  Also, please upgrade to the
> 0_helix_3 release of pygtk.
> 

[root@localhost /root]# rpm -q python
python-1.5.2-7


One question(s) I have... (and I'm sorry if you have mentioned this)

I consider gtk to be a core "technology" and would probably/possibly
update gtk via RH 'up2date'.  If I up2date gtk, then do a helix-update, I
assume that helix-update looks at the rh 'up2date' rpm database ('rpm
-q'?) and would only update to a newer package.  Can we say the same, if
the process is reversed?  Will 'up2date' recognize an rpm package that has
a helix tag?, i.e. gtk+-1.2.8-0_helix_1, and not do an update to an
earlier package?

Thank you for helping me figure out what's going on.

                            - Martin J. Brown, Jr. -                           
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