Re: Standardization of Function Keys



On Sun, 2012-07-15 at 22:30 -0400, Trans wrote: 
> On Sun, Jul 15, 2012 at 10:03 PM, Jasper St. Pierre
> <jstpierre mecheye net> wrote:
> > On Sun, Jul 15, 2012 at 9:56 PM, Trans <transfire gmail com> wrote:
> >> On Thu, Jul 12, 2012 at 9:14 AM, Jasper St. Pierre
> > No it wouldn't. Not to mention that Ctrl+F5 already means "clear the
> > cache for all assets refreshed on this page, and then refresh".
> Sure it would. Everyone had to adjust to completely new way of
> navigating the desktop in the transition from Gnome 2 to Gnome 3. This
> is nothing compared to that. A few shortcuts that only very technical
> specialists know can easily be remapped. 

You keep asserting the "shortcuts that only very technical specialists
know". I think your assertion is false.

Nearly every user knows that F1 is help.
Nearly every user knows that F5 is refresh; it works that way in
browsers and file managers [aka nautilus].
Nearly every user knows that F11 is fullscreen.
Nearly every spreadsheet user knows that F2 is edit-cell; and a variety
of other applications use F2=edit.

> I've been programming for 25
> years and have never once used CTRL+F5 in any capacity that I can
> recollect. 

I'm not a web developer and I've been using F5 since I can remember.

> I'm absolutely sure no average user has any idea about it
> either.

The more you repeat it does not make it true.

> In fact, they probably would have a hard time even understanding 
>  what you were talking about.

Please don't insult people.  Users DO KNOW SHORTCUTS.  They use them all
the time.  Users are not stupid, they know how to do the things they use
computers for very efficiently.

Your fumbly retired neighbor is not a-typical-user.  CAD operators are
users, the CFO is a user, the bank teller is a user, the mechanical
engineer is a user, the architect is a user, the pharmacist is a user...

> I think its important not to give preference to what you personally
> know and are used to versus what could be a general improvement for
> everyone.

Exactly.

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