bash: warning: setlocale: LC_NUMERIC: cannot change locale (us_US)

Any hint? Thanks,

Fr=E9d=E9r= ic

PS: it would _REALLY_ be more convenient to be = able to change the decimal separator in Gnumeric preferences.

--20cf30363b7dacb48504a99b636d-- From jonn@openismus.com Wed Aug 3 15:33:18 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: gnumeric-list@gnome.org Delivered-To: gnumeric-list@gnome.org Received: from localhost (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B97257501B8 for ; Wed, 3 Aug 2011 15:33:18 +0000 (UTC) X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at gnome.org X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -3.406 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-3.406 tagged_above=-999 required=2 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_MED=-2.3, RDNS_NONE=0.793, TO_NO_BRKTS_NORDNS=0.001] autolearn=ham Received: from menubar.gnome.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (menubar.gnome.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id VCMj-Dh5iTXQ for ; Wed, 3 Aug 2011 15:33:16 +0000 (UTC) Received: from mail.openismus.com (unknown [85.183.48.167]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2F14975012C for ; Wed, 3 Aug 2011 15:33:07 +0000 (UTC) Received: from [192.168.0.118] (unknown [85.183.48.167]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by mail.openismus.com (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 9F4001018063 for ; Wed, 3 Aug 2011 17:33:05 +0200 (CEST) Message-ID: <4E39687E.9080100@openismus.com> Date: Wed, 03 Aug 2011 17:25:50 +0200 From: Jon Nordby User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux x86_64; rv:5.0) Gecko/20110628 Thunderbird/5.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: gnumeric-list@gnome.org Subject: Re: change of decimal separator References: In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-BeenThere: gnumeric-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: GNOME spreadsheet List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 03 Aug 2011 15:33:18 -0000 On 08/03/2011 05:19 PM, Frederic Parrenin wrote: > Dear all, > > > I am using gnumeric 1.10.17 on my french ubuntu 11.04 system and would > like to change the decimal separator. > I tried: > export LC_NUMERIC=us_US > but get the following error message: > bash: warning: setlocale: LC_NUMERIC: cannot change locale (us_US) > > Any hint? Thanks, Try en_US for "English, United States". > Fr�d�ric > > PS: it would _REALLY_ be more convenient to be able to change the > decimal separator in Gnumeric preferences. > > > > -- > http://parrenin.frederic.free.fr/ > > > _______________________________________________ > gnumeric-list mailing list > gnumeric-list@gnome.org > http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/gnumeric-list -- Jon Nordby - www.jonnor.com Software Developer, Openismus GmbH - www.openismus.com From G.De_Leeuw@eurofer.be Wed Aug 3 15:45:08 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: gnumeric-list@gnome.org Delivered-To: gnumeric-list@gnome.org Received: from localhost (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 607577501B8 for ; Wed, 3 Aug 2011 15:45:08 +0000 (UTC) X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at gnome.org X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -1.9 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.9 tagged_above=-999 required=2 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9] autolearn=ham Received: from menubar.gnome.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (menubar.gnome.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 5BU5+ehFgrfl for ; Wed, 3 Aug 2011 15:45:05 +0000 (UTC) X-Greylist: delayed 571 seconds by postgrey-1.32 at menubar.gnome.org; Wed, 03 Aug 2011 15:45:05 UTC Received: from brublucs01.mactelecom.net (brublucs01.mactelecom.net [217.64.240.242]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 06C5E75010F for ; Wed, 3 Aug 2011 15:44:56 +0000 (UTC) Received: by brublucs01.mactelecom.net (Postfix, from userid 500) id 88CF5F62B4; Wed, 3 Aug 2011 15:35:21 +0000 (UTC) Received: from smtp.eurofer.be (217.64.254.218.mactelecom.net [217.64.254.218]) by brublucs01.mactelecom.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id A3E41F61B9; Wed, 3 Aug 2011 15:35:20 +0000 (UTC) Received: from [192.168.5.10] by smtp.eurofer.be with esmtpsa (TLS1.0:DHE_RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA1:32) (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1QodTa-0001YS-6f; Wed, 03 Aug 2011 17:35:21 +0200 From: Guy Deleeuw To: Frederic Parrenin In-Reply-To: References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Date: Wed, 03 Aug 2011 17:35:23 +0200 Message-ID: <1312385723.2060.70.camel@pc-0100> Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Evolution 2.28.3 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Spam_score: -2.4 X-SA-Exim-Connect-IP: 192.168.5.10 X-SA-Exim-Mail-From: G.De_Leeuw@eurofer.be Subject: Re: change of decimal separator X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes (on smtp.eurofer.be) X-Mailman-Approved-At: Thu, 04 Aug 2011 08:05:18 +0000 Cc: Gnumeric List X-BeenThere: gnumeric-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: GNOME spreadsheet List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 03 Aug 2011 15:45:08 -0000 Hello I thing it is not us_US but en_US Regards Guy Le mercredi 03 ao=C3=BBt 2011 =C3=A0 17:19 +0200, Frederic Parrenin a =C3= =A9crit : > Dear all, >=20 >=20 >=20 >=20 > I am using gnumeric 1.10.17 on my french ubuntu 11.04 system and would > like to change the decimal separator. > I tried: > export LC_NUMERIC=3Dus_US > but get the following error message: > bash: warning: setlocale: LC_NUMERIC: cannot change locale (us_US) >=20 >=20 > Any hint? Thanks, >=20 >=20 > Fr=C3=A9d=C3=A9ric >=20 >=20 > PS: it would _REALLY_ be more convenient to be able to change the > decimal separator in Gnumeric preferences. >=20 >=20 >=20 >=20 >=20 > --=20 > http://parrenin.frederic.free.fr/ >=20 > _______________________________________________ > gnumeric-list mailing list > gnumeric-list@gnome.org > http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/gnumeric-list From bosenbrg@amnh.org Fri Aug 5 16:26:06 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: gnumeric-list@gnome.org Delivered-To: gnumeric-list@gnome.org Received: from localhost (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5DA36750077 for ; Fri, 5 Aug 2011 16:26:06 +0000 (UTC) X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at gnome.org X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -0.83 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-0.83 tagged_above=-999 required=2 tests=[BAYES_50=0.8, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_LOW=-0.7, RP_MATCHES_RCVD=-0.931] autolearn=ham Received: from menubar.gnome.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (menubar.gnome.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id w-H83B7vky1I for ; Fri, 5 Aug 2011 16:26:03 +0000 (UTC) X-Greylist: delayed 414 seconds by postgrey-1.32 at menubar.gnome.org; Fri, 05 Aug 2011 16:26:02 UTC Received: from info-smtp-004.amnh.org (info-smtp-004.amnh.org [216.73.241.12]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DC6C975002B for ; Fri, 5 Aug 2011 16:25:54 +0000 (UTC) Received: from localhost (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by info-smtp-004.amnh.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 699DF1CD575 for ; Fri, 5 Aug 2011 12:18:58 -0400 (EDT) Received: from info-smtp-004.amnh.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (info-smtp-004.amnh.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id pKBHkekd1LXl for ; Fri, 5 Aug 2011 12:18:58 -0400 (EDT) Received: from ACHONDRITE (unknown [216.73.248.207]) by info-smtp-004.amnh.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2E49C1CD56F for ; Fri, 5 Aug 2011 12:18:58 -0400 (EDT) From: "Joseph Boesenberg" To: Subject: Changfing coumn labels Date: Fri, 5 Aug 2011 12:19:00 -0400 Message-ID: <862632BD84F941ED9D479BA6A0F77594@ACHONDRITE> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_001B_01CC5369.DB5DA280" X-Mailer: Microsoft Office Outlook 11 Thread-Index: AcxTi2Jcx7aWtsC0T0WmXX4tEFCPJA== X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.1.7601.17609 X-Mailman-Approved-At: Sat, 06 Aug 2011 08:09:00 +0000 X-BeenThere: gnumeric-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: GNOME spreadsheet List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 05 Aug 2011 16:26:06 -0000 This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_001B_01CC5369.DB5DA280 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Hi, Can anyone tell how (if possible) I can change the physical column names (A, B, C) in Gnumeric so that when I write equations I can use the actual label instead of the default column name (which is really annoying and one of the reasons I don't like Excel). A 20 year old program I had called Axum could do this, but it is a 16 bit program. I work with chemical data and it would be nice to be able to use the actual chemical element symbols (Si, Al, Fe) instead of the column labels. Thanks. Joe ------=_NextPart_000_001B_01CC5369.DB5DA280 Content-Type: text/html; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

Hi,

Can anyone tell how (if possible) I can change = the physical column names (A, B, C) in Gnumeric so that when I write equations = I can use the actual label instead of the default column name (which is really = annoying and one of the reasons I don't like Excel). A 20 year old program I had = called Axum could do this, but it is a 16 bit = program.

I work with chemical data and it would be nice to be = able to use the actual chemical element symbols (Si, Al, Fe) instead of the = column labels.

Thanks.

Joe

------=_NextPart_000_001B_01CC5369.DB5DA280-- From hal.ashburner@gmail.com Sat Aug 6 08:32:49 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: gnumeric-list@gnome.org Delivered-To: gnumeric-list@gnome.org Received: from localhost (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9EAD475010A for ; Sat, 6 Aug 2011 08:32:49 +0000 (UTC) X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at gnome.org X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -2.689 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.689 tagged_above=-999 required=2 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, FREEMAIL_FROM=0.001, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_LOW=-0.7, SPF_PASS=-0.001, T_TO_NO_BRKTS_FREEMAIL=0.01] autolearn=ham Received: from menubar.gnome.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (menubar.gnome.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id qBilKRkUWrDR for ; Sat, 6 Aug 2011 08:32:47 +0000 (UTC) Received: from mail-iy0-f172.google.com (mail-iy0-f172.google.com [209.85.210.172]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 25A4C7500ED for ; Sat, 6 Aug 2011 08:32:38 +0000 (UTC) Received: by iye7 with SMTP id 7so4497789iye.3 for ; Sat, 06 Aug 2011 01:32:37 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:user-agent:mime-version:to:subject:references :in-reply-to:content-type; bh=6Nx/c4dL7j0nBjlNshA86nDk2m42mXs2qH/aCK9RGwA=; b=FDiCne4PWuG3b0eeFxsgquHI41yNdIl+2HT7ZmgczA8JltJj636TBbr01EZz3jHldY XCrXUJeVlsK6xzjZpZIkphM24DSv/2Tt43/mAdSQhOijiigwYDJGgmRrSR1XxGH9K2vL jgaltM81SIk1AZ2myN/T5g3gtNTnYHPv+cnMg= Received: by 10.42.167.9 with SMTP id q9mr2694970icy.310.1312619547969; Sat, 06 Aug 2011 01:32:27 -0700 (PDT) Received: from tri.local (ppp121-44-43-196.lns20.syd6.internode.on.net [121.44.43.196]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id n14sm262115ibi.39.2011.08.06.01.32.26 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=OTHER); Sat, 06 Aug 2011 01:32:27 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <4E3CFC17.8040606@gmail.com> Date: Sat, 06 Aug 2011 18:32:23 +1000 From: Hal Ashburner User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; Intel Mac OS X 10.7; rv:5.0) Gecko/20110624 Thunderbird/5.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: gnumeric-list@gnome.org Subject: Re: Changfing coumn labels References: <862632BD84F941ED9D479BA6A0F77594@ACHONDRITE> In-Reply-To: <862632BD84F941ED9D479BA6A0F77594@ACHONDRITE> Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="------------010906090308070400080600" X-BeenThere: gnumeric-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: GNOME spreadsheet List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 06 Aug 2011 08:32:49 -0000 This is a multi-part message in MIME format. --------------010906090308070400080600 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Hey Joe, Sounds like you want a "named range" Select a range, eg by clicking on the "A" to select the entire column click in the box at the top left just above the grid where it says "A1" Delete that and type Si now you can use "Si" as your address =B2*Si will just work. OR Go for the "Insert" drop down menu, and select "Name..." Then fill in the details. This is all much the same as Excel. Google "named ranges" to find out all the details. All the best, Hal On 6/Aug/11 2:19 AM, Joseph Boesenberg wrote: > > Hi, > > Can anyone tell how (if possible) I can change the physical column > names (A, B, C) in Gnumeric so that when I write equations I can use > the actual label instead of the default column name (which is really > annoying and one of the reasons I don't like Excel). A 20 year old > program I had called Axum could do this, but it is a 16 bit program. > > I work with chemical data and it would be nice to be able to use the > actual chemical element symbols (Si, Al, Fe) instead of the column labels. > > Thanks. > > Joe > > > > _______________________________________________ > gnumeric-list mailing list > gnumeric-list@gnome.org > http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/gnumeric-list --------------010906090308070400080600 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Hey Joe,

Sounds like you want a "named range"

Select a range, eg by clicking on the "A" to select the entire column
click in the box at the top left just above the grid where it says "A1"
Delete that and type Si

now you can use "Si" as your address

=B2*Si

will just work.

OR

Go for the "Insert" drop down menu, and select "Name..."
Then fill in the details.

This is all much the same as Excel. Google "named ranges" to find out all the details.

All the best,
Hal

On 6/Aug/11 2:19 AM, Joseph Boesenberg wrote:

Hi,

Can anyone tell how (if possible) I can change the physical column names (A, B, C) in Gnumeric so that when I write equations I can use the actual label instead of the default column name (which is really annoying and one of the reasons I don't like Excel). A 20 year old program I had called Axum could do this, but it is a 16 bit program.

I work with chemical data and it would be nice to be able to use the actual chemical element symbols (Si, Al, Fe) instead of the column labels.

Thanks.

Joe

_______________________________________________ gnumeric-list mailing list gnumeric-list@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/gnumeric-list

--------------010906090308070400080600-- From ratflat@gmx.de Sat Aug 6 09:30:39 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: gnumeric-list@gnome.org Delivered-To: gnumeric-list@gnome.org Received: from localhost (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 28CF27500ED for ; Sat, 6 Aug 2011 09:30:39 +0000 (UTC) X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at gnome.org X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -1.89 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.89 tagged_above=-999 required=2 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, FREEMAIL_FROM=0.001, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE=-0.0001, SPF_PASS=-0.001, T_TO_NO_BRKTS_FREEMAIL=0.01] autolearn=ham Received: from menubar.gnome.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (menubar.gnome.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id VPeZdlNZQjFY for ; Sat, 6 Aug 2011 09:30:37 +0000 (UTC) Received: from mailout-de.gmx.net (mailout-de.gmx.net [213.165.64.22]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 6F849750065 for ; Sat, 6 Aug 2011 09:30:28 +0000 (UTC) Received: (qmail invoked by alias); 06 Aug 2011 09:30:26 -0000 Received: from blfd-4d086126.pool.mediaWays.net (EHLO [192.168.1.108]) [77.8.97.38] by mail.gmx.net (mp056) with SMTP; 06 Aug 2011 11:30:26 +0200 X-Authenticated: #23217017 X-Provags-ID: V01U2FsdGVkX180e9Upubo0hw2tkGFuIl2pkcQdeilTwMdBdbNqN2 HKsV84gVphxDf1 Message-ID: <4E3D0A61.7020801@gmx.de> Date: Sat, 06 Aug 2011 11:33:21 +0200 From: Jakob User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 5.1; rv:5.0) Gecko/20110624 Thunderbird/5.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: gnumeric-list@gnome.org Subject: axis titles: formatting Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-15; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Y-GMX-Trusted: 0 X-BeenThere: gnumeric-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: GNOME spreadsheet List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 06 Aug 2011 09:30:39 -0000 Hi, I would like to know if it is somehow possible to change the formatting of the axis titles and data set titles in a scatter plot. As I use gnumeric for a biological purpose, sometimes the data set titles are names of bacteria, which have to be written in italics. Furthermore, if I want to plot, e.g., partial pressure of oxygen versus time, I would like to put the 2 in O2 as an index. Is there a possiblity to solve this problem? Thanks in advance, Jakob From jean.brefort@normalesup.org Sat Aug 6 09:32:36 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: gnumeric-list@gnome.org Delivered-To: gnumeric-list@gnome.org Received: from localhost (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 86261750065 for ; Sat, 6 Aug 2011 09:32:36 +0000 (UTC) X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at gnome.org X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -1.121 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.121 tagged_above=-999 required=2 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE=-0.0001, SPF_NEUTRAL=0.779] autolearn=no Received: from menubar.gnome.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (menubar.gnome.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id XeeHZishtzLr for ; Sat, 6 Aug 2011 09:32:34 +0000 (UTC) Received: from smtp1-g21.free.fr (smtp1-g21.free.fr [212.27.42.1]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C89B17500ED for ; Sat, 6 Aug 2011 09:32:23 +0000 (UTC) Received: from [IPv6:2a01:e35:8ac4:1010:219:7dff:fecc:cce7] (unknown [IPv6:2a01:e35:8ac4:1010:219:7dff:fecc:cce7]) by smtp1-g21.free.fr (Postfix) with ESMTP id A0A3E9400F9 for ; Sat, 6 Aug 2011 11:32:18 +0200 (CEST) Subject: Gnumeric, vectorial drawings (and charts) From: Jean Brefort To: Gnumeric List Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Date: Sat, 06 Aug 2011 11:36:57 +0200 Message-ID: <1312623417.2558.17.camel@acer.brefort.fr> Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Evolution 2.32.3 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-BeenThere: gnumeric-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: GNOME spreadsheet List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 06 Aug 2011 09:32:36 -0000 Hi, Currently, svg images are displayed in Gnumeric as bitmaps, which makes them look weird when resized, and print with only screen resolution. It appears hat the GOImage API is not well suited for vectorial drawings. There are several possiblities to improve the situation: * use librsvg, * use lasem (we already optionally use it for maths equations in charts), * add appropriate code in goffice. The first solution would just work, and might be the easiest, is reliable, but we should also support other vectorial drawings types, so it can only be part of the solution. The second would avoid to depend on librsvg, but I don't know if Emmanuel will actively support it in the future, even in the near future. Actually we might also consider importing the mathml code in goffice. The third and most demanding solution would be to import the svg paths as canvas items. We already have most of what we need in the canvas, and we should just write the parser. This would also work for wmf files (Valek wrote some demo code in goffice in mf-demo.c) and might be extended to emf which we do not support at all for now (as far as I know). I suppose that OpenDocument graphics (odg) would be a valuable target too. About charts, I'm wondering if it would be valuable to rewrite the rendering part using the canvas items. It would help for user interactions with the graph elements, but might result in some performance loss (difficult to know without experimenting). Waiting for comments. Cheers, Jean From jean.brefort@normalesup.org Sat Aug 6 09:53:15 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: gnumeric-list@gnome.org Delivered-To: gnumeric-list@gnome.org Received: from localhost (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 08157750115 for ; Sat, 6 Aug 2011 09:53:15 +0000 (UTC) X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at gnome.org X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -1.121 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.121 tagged_above=-999 required=2 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE=-0.0001, SPF_NEUTRAL=0.779] autolearn=no Received: from menubar.gnome.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (menubar.gnome.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id q3iG6rMQPMbq for ; Sat, 6 Aug 2011 09:53:13 +0000 (UTC) Received: from smtp1-g21.free.fr (smtp1-g21.free.fr [212.27.42.1]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CD0A17500D2 for ; Sat, 6 Aug 2011 09:53:02 +0000 (UTC) Received: from [IPv6:2a01:e35:8ac4:1010:219:7dff:fecc:cce7] (unknown [IPv6:2a01:e35:8ac4:1010:219:7dff:fecc:cce7]) by smtp1-g21.free.fr (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0E5DE940093; Sat, 6 Aug 2011 11:52:56 +0200 (CEST) Subject: Re: axis titles: formatting From: Jean Brefort To: Jakob In-Reply-To: <4E3D0A61.7020801@gmx.de> References: <4E3D0A61.7020801@gmx.de> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Date: Sat, 06 Aug 2011 11:57:35 +0200 Message-ID: <1312624655.2558.21.camel@acer.brefort.fr> Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Evolution 2.32.3 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Cc: gnumeric-list@gnome.org X-BeenThere: gnumeric-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: GNOME spreadsheet List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 06 Aug 2011 09:53:15 -0000 This has just been implemented in the development version. Using stable (which is HIGHLY recommended), if goffice is built with Lasem (--with-lasem) you can add some maths here and cheat to use that to get rich text inside the chart, but I don't know of any official package with this functionality enables,so you'll need to build it yourself. Best regards, Jean Le samedi 06 août 2011 à 11:33 +0200, Jakob a écrit : > Hi, > > I would like to know if it is somehow possible to change the formatting > of the axis titles and data set titles in a scatter plot. As I use > gnumeric for a biological purpose, sometimes the data set titles are > names of bacteria, which have to be written in italics. Furthermore, if > I want to plot, e.g., partial pressure of oxygen versus time, I would > like to put the 2 in O2 as an index. Is there a possiblity to solve this > problem? > > Thanks in advance, > Jakob > _______________________________________________ > gnumeric-list mailing list > gnumeric-list@gnome.org > http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/gnumeric-list From dent.artur@gmail.com Sat Aug 6 17:45:35 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: gnumeric-list@gnome.org Delivered-To: gnumeric-list@gnome.org Received: from localhost (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A2DF475010A for ; Sat, 6 Aug 2011 17:45:35 +0000 (UTC) X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at gnome.org X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -2.69 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.69 tagged_above=-999 required=2 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, FREEMAIL_FROM=0.001, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_LOW=-0.7, SPF_PASS=-0.001, T_TO_NO_BRKTS_FREEMAIL=0.01] autolearn=ham Received: from menubar.gnome.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (menubar.gnome.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id FtaXTUe7uYC4 for ; Sat, 6 Aug 2011 17:45:33 +0000 (UTC) Received: from mail-yx0-f182.google.com (mail-yx0-f182.google.com [209.85.213.182]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9F5867500D2 for ; Sat, 6 Aug 2011 17:45:25 +0000 (UTC) Received: by yxl31 with SMTP id 31so3319433yxl.27 for ; Sat, 06 Aug 2011 10:45:23 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; bh=o3UWsegxMVhxvRGYcuW/3bBExriHcmXxFlG7EM30+zM=; b=avvCJ+Dd06p35r6vWx6H9CgQmmVZSZ0a4LLCvGcw2NfaODH2mUkOQ5/7+F5ixbxLSo Kyn5x9MXgbIGGRUKfWr1lKp0qS9SAEbhQixH062PQSz37d7RwS9bHyjSX8D6om4CIzU5 jFUAw8lY9C8h/CfuOnmKoJosxqLPSiHrStzEY= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.100.60.3 with SMTP id i3mr3178222ana.113.1312652723645; Sat, 06 Aug 2011 10:45:23 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.101.82.3 with HTTP; Sat, 6 Aug 2011 10:45:23 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <1312623417.2558.17.camel@acer.brefort.fr> References: <1312623417.2558.17.camel@acer.brefort.fr> Date: Sat, 6 Aug 2011 13:45:23 -0400 Message-ID: Subject: Re: Gnumeric, vectorial drawings (and charts) From: frob To: gnumeric-list@gnome.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 X-BeenThere: gnumeric-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: GNOME spreadsheet List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 06 Aug 2011 17:45:35 -0000 Hello Jean, >We already have most of what we need in the canvas, and we should just write the parser. We probably will have some difficulties with SVG filters, hence we need some extensions for "styles". For WMF and EMF we need to discuss how to deal with ExtText DX-array. We need more advanced clipping support (especially for EMF), basically it comes down to sum/extract/intersect operations on closed paths. We need support for raster operations (probably for SVG too, have to check). To support "WordArt" we probably need some kind of "Goc_Artistic_Text" (word and powerpoint use more advanced version than excel, probably AbiWord team would be interested to use goffice for wordart). -- Cheers, Valek From zylmurbafi@gmx.com Mon Aug 8 06:23:11 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: gnumeric-list@gnome.org Delivered-To: gnumeric-list@gnome.org Received: from localhost (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DB4A57500CB for ; Mon, 8 Aug 2011 06:23:11 +0000 (UTC) X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at gnome.org X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -2.701 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.701 tagged_above=-999 required=2 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, FREEMAIL_FROM=0.001, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE=-0.0001, RP_MATCHES_RCVD=-0.811, SPF_PASS=-0.001, T_TO_NO_BRKTS_FREEMAIL=0.01] autolearn=ham Received: from menubar.gnome.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (menubar.gnome.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id YAAmBTFIEa5U for ; Mon, 8 Aug 2011 06:23:09 +0000 (UTC) Received: from mailout-eu.gmx.com (mailout-eu.gmx.com [213.165.64.42]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with SMTP id A076375010C for ; Mon, 8 Aug 2011 06:22:59 +0000 (UTC) Received: (qmail invoked by alias); 08 Aug 2011 06:22:57 -0000 Received: from CPE-144-136-176-108.sa.bigpond.net.au (EHLO [192.168.0.2]) [144.136.176.108] by mail.gmx.com (mp-eu001) with SMTP; 08 Aug 2011 08:22:57 +0200 X-Authenticated: #110646442 X-Provags-ID: V01U2FsdGVkX1+09q0IVOy0+tbPyGjrVDv6cUKl3bK6rdxe/e8ocK 3DBct/52zpkkHB Message-ID: <4E3F80BD.10904@gmx.com> Date: Mon, 08 Aug 2011 15:52:53 +0930 From: Franz User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; Linux i686; en-US; rv:1.9.2.18) Gecko/20110617 Lightning/1.0b2 Thunderbird/3.1.11 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: gnumeric-list@gnome.org Subject: Broken file Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Y-GMX-Trusted: 0 X-BeenThere: gnumeric-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: GNOME spreadsheet List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 08 Aug 2011 06:23:12 -0000 i am using G1.10.14 with ubuntu10.10. My file broke (XML document not well formed!) when I lost power on my laptop during a lengthy file save. If anyone has any experience and/or suggestions on how to repair it, it would be very welcome, as I am travelling and the only backup file on my desktop at home is by now seriously outdated. I can use a hex editor if advised. I really don�t understand the error message regrading the xml document. Manz thanks Franz From jean.brefort@normalesup.org Mon Aug 8 06:59:52 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: gnumeric-list@gnome.org Delivered-To: gnumeric-list@gnome.org Received: from localhost (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CC4CD750089 for ; Mon, 8 Aug 2011 06:59:52 +0000 (UTC) X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at gnome.org X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -1.121 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.121 tagged_above=-999 required=2 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE=-0.0001, SPF_NEUTRAL=0.779] autolearn=no Received: from menubar.gnome.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (menubar.gnome.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id HBW9Ac32IZci for ; Mon, 8 Aug 2011 06:59:51 +0000 (UTC) Received: from smtp1-g21.free.fr (smtp1-g21.free.fr [212.27.42.1]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C005A750088 for ; Mon, 8 Aug 2011 06:59:40 +0000 (UTC) Received: from [IPv6:2a01:e35:8ac4:1010:219:7dff:fecc:cce7] (unknown [IPv6:2a01:e35:8ac4:1010:219:7dff:fecc:cce7]) by smtp1-g21.free.fr (Postfix) with ESMTP id 395CC940136; Mon, 8 Aug 2011 08:59:34 +0200 (CEST) Subject: Re: Broken file From: Jean Brefort To: Franz In-Reply-To: <4E3F80BD.10904@gmx.com> References: <4E3F80BD.10904@gmx.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Date: Mon, 08 Aug 2011 09:04:15 +0200 Message-ID: <1312787055.2446.2.camel@acer.brefort.fr> Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Evolution 2.32.3 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Cc: gnumeric-list@gnome.org X-BeenThere: gnumeric-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: GNOME spreadsheet List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 08 Aug 2011 06:59:53 -0000 The file might be very incomplete. XML is text, any text editor would be enough to look inside if not compressed. Otherwise try to uncompress it first if possible. You might also send the file privately to one of the developers so that we can see if it can be repaired. Best regards, Jean Le lundi 08 août 2011 à 15:52 +0930, Franz a écrit : > i am using G1.10.14 with ubuntu10.10. > > My file broke (XML document not well formed!) when I lost power on my > laptop during a lengthy file save. > > If anyone has any experience and/or suggestions on how to repair it, it > would be very welcome, as I am travelling and the only backup file on my > desktop at home is by now seriously outdated. > > I can use a hex editor if advised. > I really don´t understand the error message regrading the xml document. > > Manz thanks > Franz > _______________________________________________ > gnumeric-list mailing list > gnumeric-list@gnome.org > http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/gnumeric-list From bounces@nabble.com Tue Aug 9 05:40:43 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: gnumeric-list@gnome.org Delivered-To: gnumeric-list@gnome.org Received: from localhost (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E377F7502AC for ; Tue, 9 Aug 2011 05:40:43 +0000 (UTC) X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at gnome.org X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -2.702 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.702 tagged_above=-999 required=2 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, FREEMAIL_FROM=0.001, RP_MATCHES_RCVD=-0.812, SPF_PASS=-0.001, T_TO_NO_BRKTS_FREEMAIL=0.01] autolearn=ham Received: from menubar.gnome.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (menubar.gnome.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id lUxAgWxad29Y for ; Tue, 9 Aug 2011 05:40:42 +0000 (UTC) Received: from sam.nabble.com (sam.nabble.com [216.139.236.26]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4F5E775029B for ; Tue, 9 Aug 2011 05:40:34 +0000 (UTC) Received: from isper.nabble.com ([192.168.236.156]) by sam.nabble.com with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1Qqf3I-0001Bb-SK for gnumeric-list@gnome.org; Mon, 08 Aug 2011 22:40:32 -0700 Message-ID: <32223596.post@talk.nabble.com> Date: Mon, 8 Aug 2011 22:40:32 -0700 (PDT) From: electricjedi To: gnumeric-list@gnome.org Subject: Making URLs into hyperlinks MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Nabble-From: morgan@morganomega.com X-Mailman-Approved-At: Tue, 09 Aug 2011 08:12:08 +0000 X-BeenThere: gnumeric-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: GNOME spreadsheet List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 09 Aug 2011 05:40:44 -0000 I have a ton of URL's in cells, that are not hyperlinks, just text. Is there a way to convert them ALL into hyperlinks other than doing each one manually. Is there even a way to make ONE cell into a hyperlink without having to copy paste the url into the "web address" field which is a royal pain if you have 100 links in open office you just hit the space key after the url and it makes it into a hyper link, which is pretty easy and quick... (too bad open office isn't very quick...) -- View this message in context: http://old.nabble.com/Making-URLs-into-hyperlinks-tp32223596p32223596.html Sent from the GnuMeric mailing list archive at Nabble.com. From emmanuel@gnome.org Wed Aug 10 14:47:11 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: gnumeric-list@gnome.org Delivered-To: gnumeric-list@gnome.org Received: from localhost (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E910F750129 for ; Wed, 10 Aug 2011 14:47:10 +0000 (UTC) X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at gnome.org X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -1.121 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.121 tagged_above=-999 required=2 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, SPF_NEUTRAL=0.779] autolearn=no Received: from menubar.gnome.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (menubar.gnome.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id F3CY-qQD4yTm for ; Wed, 10 Aug 2011 14:47:08 +0000 (UTC) X-Greylist: delayed 511 seconds by postgrey-1.32 at menubar.gnome.org; Wed, 10 Aug 2011 14:47:08 UTC Received: from lappmails.in2p3.fr (lappmails.in2p3.fr [134.158.96.47]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BE39B7500C7 for ; Wed, 10 Aug 2011 14:46:59 +0000 (UTC) Received: from [134.158.99.31] (lappc-p348.in2p3.fr [134.158.99.31]) (Authenticated sender: pacaud@lapp.in2p3.fr) by lappmails.in2p3.fr (Postfix) with ESMTP id BAD5E810212; Wed, 10 Aug 2011 16:38:26 +0200 (CEST) Subject: Re: Gnumeric, vectorial drawings (and charts) From: Emmanuel Pacaud To: Jean Brefort In-Reply-To: <1312623417.2558.17.camel@acer.brefort.fr> References: <1312623417.2558.17.camel@acer.brefort.fr> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Date: Wed, 10 Aug 2011 16:38:26 +0200 Message-ID: <1312987106.3895.23.camel@lappc-p348> Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Evolution 2.32.2 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Cc: Gnumeric List X-BeenThere: gnumeric-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: GNOME spreadsheet List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 10 Aug 2011 14:47:11 -0000 Hi, Le samedi 06 août 2011 à 11:36 +0200, Jean Brefort a écrit : > There are several possiblities to improve the situation: > * use librsvg, > * use lasem (we already optionally use it for maths equations in > charts), > * add appropriate code in goffice. > The second would avoid to depend on librsvg, but I don't know if > Emmanuel will actively support it in the future, even in the near > future. Actually we might also consider importing the mathml code in > goffice. Why would you want to do that ? > The third and most demanding solution would be to import the svg paths > as canvas items. We already have most of what we need in the canvas, and > we should just write the parser. I think you highly underestimate the difficulty of SVG rendering, shown by the fact that all the modern web browsers fail to have a decent coverage of the SVG 1.1 specification. > This would also work for wmf files > (Valek wrote some demo code in goffice in mf-demo.c) and might be > extended to emf which we do not support at all for now (as far as I > know). I suppose that OpenDocument graphics (odg) would be a valuable > target too. My take would be to convert wmf or odg to svg and use the best svg library available (librsvg currently) for the rendering. > About charts, I'm wondering if it would be valuable to rewrite the > rendering part using the canvas items. It would help for user > interactions with the graph elements, but might result in some > performance loss (difficult to know without experimenting). I'm not sure the conversion of the GogObjects to canvas items would really help for user interaction. The canvas positioning logic (absolute move and size of objects) is different to what you want for the graph objects: relative position and size w.r.t. parent object, modification of object properties (axis bounds). Emmanuel. From emmanuel.pacaud@lapp.in2p3.fr Wed Aug 10 14:57:09 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: gnumeric-list@gnome.org Delivered-To: gnumeric-list@gnome.org Received: from localhost (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 61197750152 for ; Wed, 10 Aug 2011 14:57:09 +0000 (UTC) X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at gnome.org X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -2.711 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.711 tagged_above=-999 required=2 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, RP_MATCHES_RCVD=-0.811] autolearn=ham Received: from menubar.gnome.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (menubar.gnome.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id NuG-HVPkLAzF for ; Wed, 10 Aug 2011 14:57:07 +0000 (UTC) X-Greylist: delayed 507 seconds by postgrey-1.32 at menubar.gnome.org; Wed, 10 Aug 2011 14:57:07 UTC Received: from lappmails.in2p3.fr (lappmails.in2p3.fr [134.158.96.47]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BACE8750129 for ; Wed, 10 Aug 2011 14:56:59 +0000 (UTC) Received: from [134.158.99.31] (lappc-p348.in2p3.fr [134.158.99.31]) (Authenticated sender: pacaud@lapp.in2p3.fr) by lappmails.in2p3.fr (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4E2A9810212; Wed, 10 Aug 2011 16:48:39 +0200 (CEST) Subject: Re: Gnumeric, vectorial drawings (and charts) From: Emmanuel Pacaud To: Jean Brefort In-Reply-To: <1312987106.3895.23.camel@lappc-p348> References: <1312623417.2558.17.camel@acer.brefort.fr> <1312987106.3895.23.camel@lappc-p348> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Date: Wed, 10 Aug 2011 16:48:38 +0200 Message-ID: <1312987718.3895.29.camel@lappc-p348> Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Evolution 2.32.2 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Cc: Gnumeric List X-BeenThere: gnumeric-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: GNOME spreadsheet List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 10 Aug 2011 14:57:09 -0000 Le mercredi 10 août 2011 à 16:38 +0200, Emmanuel Pacaud a écrit : > > This would also work for wmf files > > (Valek wrote some demo code in goffice in mf-demo.c) and might be > > extended to emf which we do not support at all for now (as far as I > > know). I suppose that OpenDocument graphics (odg) would be a valuable > > target too. > > My take would be to convert wmf or odg to svg and use the best svg > library available (librsvg currently) for the rendering. I want to add that lasem is not that bad compared to librsvg. It doesn't support filters and css styling, and text support is poorer than in librsvg (which is already quite poor). But it's faster and use less memory, and has a DOM API (which open the possibility of editing capabilities). Both have the same low level of development activity. Emmanuel. From emmanuel.pacaud@lapp.in2p3.fr Wed Aug 10 14:58:56 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: gnumeric-list@gnome.org Delivered-To: gnumeric-list@gnome.org Received: from localhost (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 36F32750129 for ; Wed, 10 Aug 2011 14:58:56 +0000 (UTC) X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at gnome.org X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -2.711 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.711 tagged_above=-999 required=2 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, RP_MATCHES_RCVD=-0.811] autolearn=ham Received: from menubar.gnome.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (menubar.gnome.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id iYWNPpYw1PzF for ; Wed, 10 Aug 2011 14:58:54 +0000 (UTC) Received: from lappmails.in2p3.fr (lappmails.in2p3.fr [134.158.96.47]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BA1777500C7 for ; Wed, 10 Aug 2011 14:58:46 +0000 (UTC) Received: from [134.158.99.31] (lappc-p348.in2p3.fr [134.158.99.31]) (Authenticated sender: pacaud@lapp.in2p3.fr) by lappmails.in2p3.fr (Postfix) with ESMTP id EE75C810212; Wed, 10 Aug 2011 16:58:44 +0200 (CEST) Subject: Re: Gnumeric, vectorial drawings (and charts) From: Emmanuel Pacaud To: Jean Brefort In-Reply-To: <1312987106.3895.23.camel@lappc-p348> References: <1312623417.2558.17.camel@acer.brefort.fr> <1312987106.3895.23.camel@lappc-p348> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Date: Wed, 10 Aug 2011 16:58:44 +0200 Message-ID: <1312988324.3895.32.camel@lappc-p348> Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Evolution 2.32.2 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Cc: Gnumeric List X-BeenThere: gnumeric-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: GNOME spreadsheet List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 10 Aug 2011 14:58:56 -0000 Le mercredi 10 août 2011 à 16:38 +0200, Emmanuel Pacaud a écrit : > > This would also work for wmf files > > (Valek wrote some demo code in goffice in mf-demo.c) and might be > > extended to emf which we do not support at all for now (as far as I > > know). I suppose that OpenDocument graphics (odg) would be a > valuable > > target too. > > My take would be to convert wmf or odg to svg and use the best svg > library available (librsvg currently) for the rendering. webkit could be another option. Emmanuel. From jean.brefort@normalesup.org Wed Aug 10 19:31:17 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: gnumeric-list@gnome.org Delivered-To: gnumeric-list@gnome.org Received: from localhost (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 94A277500C5; Wed, 10 Aug 2011 19:31:17 +0000 (UTC) X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at gnome.org X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -1.121 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.121 tagged_above=-999 required=2 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE=-0.0001, SPF_NEUTRAL=0.779] autolearn=no Received: from menubar.gnome.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (menubar.gnome.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id z4mDzh-0cxoJ; Wed, 10 Aug 2011 19:31:15 +0000 (UTC) Received: from smtp1-g21.free.fr (smtp1-g21.free.fr [212.27.42.1]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CB3A175002B; Wed, 10 Aug 2011 19:31:04 +0000 (UTC) Received: from [IPv6:2a01:e35:8ac4:1010:219:7dff:fecc:cce7] (unknown [IPv6:2a01:e35:8ac4:1010:219:7dff:fecc:cce7]) by smtp1-g21.free.fr (Postfix) with ESMTP id 885A794014C; Wed, 10 Aug 2011 21:30:58 +0200 (CEST) Subject: Re: Gnumeric, vectorial drawings (and charts) From: Jean Brefort To: Emmanuel Pacaud In-Reply-To: <1312987106.3895.23.camel@lappc-p348> References: <1312623417.2558.17.camel@acer.brefort.fr> <1312987106.3895.23.camel@lappc-p348> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Date: Wed, 10 Aug 2011 21:35:40 +0200 Message-ID: <1313004941.2442.10.camel@acer.brefort.fr> Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Evolution 2.32.3 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Cc: Gnumeric List X-BeenThere: gnumeric-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: GNOME spreadsheet List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 10 Aug 2011 19:31:17 -0000 Le mercredi 10 août 2011 à 16:38 +0200, Emmanuel Pacaud a écrit : > Hi, > > Le samedi 06 août 2011 à 11:36 +0200, Jean Brefort a écrit : > > There are several possiblities to improve the situation: > > * use librsvg, > > * use lasem (we already optionally use it for maths equations in > > charts), > > * add appropriate code in goffice. > > > The second would avoid to depend on librsvg, but I don't know if > > Emmanuel will actively support it in the future, even in the near > > future. Actually we might also consider importing the mathml code in > > goffice. > > Why would you want to do that ? Just a possibility if lasem went unmaintained, which might happen as it is a one man project. > > The third and most demanding solution would be to import the svg paths > > as canvas items. We already have most of what we need in the canvas, and > > we should just write the parser. > > I think you highly underestimate the difficulty of SVG rendering, shown > by the fact that all the modern web browsers fail to have a decent > coverage of the SVG 1.1 specification. I don't underestimate anything. I know it would be a long term issue. > > This would also work for wmf files > > (Valek wrote some demo code in goffice in mf-demo.c) and might be > > extended to emf which we do not support at all for now (as far as I > > know). I suppose that OpenDocument graphics (odg) would be a valuable > > target too. > > My take would be to convert wmf or odg to svg and use the best svg > library available (librsvg currently) for the rendering. Not sure that converting would make things easier. > > About charts, I'm wondering if it would be valuable to rewrite the > > rendering part using the canvas items. It would help for user > > interactions with the graph elements, but might result in some > > performance loss (difficult to know without experimenting). > > I'm not sure the conversion of the GogObjects to canvas items would > really help for user interaction. The canvas positioning logic (absolute > move and size of objects) is different to what you want for the graph > objects: relative position and size w.r.t. parent object, modification > of object properties (axis bounds). The canvas can support relative positioning. And we can any feature we need. Anyway, not a project for now. Thanks, Jean From jean.brefort@normalesup.org Wed Aug 10 19:32:37 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: gnumeric-list@gnome.org Delivered-To: gnumeric-list@gnome.org Received: from localhost (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 293527500C5 for ; Wed, 10 Aug 2011 19:32:37 +0000 (UTC) X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at gnome.org X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -1.121 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.121 tagged_above=-999 required=2 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE=-0.0001, SPF_NEUTRAL=0.779] autolearn=no Received: from menubar.gnome.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (menubar.gnome.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id Qg1SOuKyCQCl for ; Wed, 10 Aug 2011 19:32:36 +0000 (UTC) Received: from smtp1-g21.free.fr (smtp1-g21.free.fr [212.27.42.1]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C787B75002B for ; Wed, 10 Aug 2011 19:32:26 +0000 (UTC) Received: from [IPv6:2a01:e35:8ac4:1010:219:7dff:fecc:cce7] (unknown [IPv6:2a01:e35:8ac4:1010:219:7dff:fecc:cce7]) by smtp1-g21.free.fr (Postfix) with ESMTP id 449309400F9; Wed, 10 Aug 2011 21:32:20 +0200 (CEST) Subject: Re: Gnumeric, vectorial drawings (and charts) From: Jean Brefort To: Emmanuel Pacaud In-Reply-To: <1312987718.3895.29.camel@lappc-p348> References: <1312623417.2558.17.camel@acer.brefort.fr> <1312987106.3895.23.camel@lappc-p348> <1312987718.3895.29.camel@lappc-p348> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Date: Wed, 10 Aug 2011 21:37:02 +0200 Message-ID: <1313005022.2442.12.camel@acer.brefort.fr> Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Evolution 2.32.3 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Cc: Gnumeric List X-BeenThere: gnumeric-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: GNOME spreadsheet List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 10 Aug 2011 19:32:37 -0000 Le mercredi 10 août 2011 à 16:48 +0200, Emmanuel Pacaud a écrit : > Le mercredi 10 août 2011 à 16:38 +0200, Emmanuel Pacaud a écrit : > > > This would also work for wmf files > > > (Valek wrote some demo code in goffice in mf-demo.c) and might be > > > extended to emf which we do not support at all for now (as far as I > > > know). I suppose that OpenDocument graphics (odg) would be a valuable > > > target too. > > > > My take would be to convert wmf or odg to svg and use the best svg > > library available (librsvg currently) for the rendering. > > I want to add that lasem is not that bad compared to librsvg. > > It doesn't support filters and css styling, and text support is poorer > than in librsvg (which is already quite poor). > > But it's faster and use less memory, and has a DOM API (which open the > possibility of editing capabilities). I don't think that gnumeric should become a drawing tool. > Both have the same low level of development activity. This is my concern. Jean From jean.brefort@normalesup.org Wed Aug 10 19:33:53 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: gnumeric-list@gnome.org Delivered-To: gnumeric-list@gnome.org Received: from localhost (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 25E857500C5 for ; Wed, 10 Aug 2011 19:33:53 +0000 (UTC) X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at gnome.org X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -1.121 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.121 tagged_above=-999 required=2 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE=-0.0001, SPF_NEUTRAL=0.779] autolearn=no Received: from menubar.gnome.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (menubar.gnome.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id tY8DVGV8Ivaf for ; Wed, 10 Aug 2011 19:33:51 +0000 (UTC) Received: from smtp1-g21.free.fr (smtp1-g21.free.fr [212.27.42.1]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3D45975002B for ; Wed, 10 Aug 2011 19:33:41 +0000 (UTC) Received: from [IPv6:2a01:e35:8ac4:1010:219:7dff:fecc:cce7] (unknown [IPv6:2a01:e35:8ac4:1010:219:7dff:fecc:cce7]) by smtp1-g21.free.fr (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6DB059400FD; Wed, 10 Aug 2011 21:33:35 +0200 (CEST) Subject: Re: Gnumeric, vectorial drawings (and charts) From: Jean Brefort To: Emmanuel Pacaud In-Reply-To: <1312988324.3895.32.camel@lappc-p348> References: <1312623417.2558.17.camel@acer.brefort.fr> <1312987106.3895.23.camel@lappc-p348> <1312988324.3895.32.camel@lappc-p348> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Date: Wed, 10 Aug 2011 21:38:17 +0200 Message-ID: <1313005097.2442.14.camel@acer.brefort.fr> Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Evolution 2.32.3 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Cc: Gnumeric List X-BeenThere: gnumeric-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: GNOME spreadsheet List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 10 Aug 2011 19:33:53 -0000 Le mercredi 10 août 2011 à 16:58 +0200, Emmanuel Pacaud a écrit : > Le mercredi 10 août 2011 à 16:38 +0200, Emmanuel Pacaud a écrit : > > > This would also work for wmf files > > > (Valek wrote some demo code in goffice in mf-demo.c) and might be > > > extended to emf which we do not support at all for now (as far as I > > > know). I suppose that OpenDocument graphics (odg) would be a > > valuable > > > target too. > > > > My take would be to convert wmf or odg to svg and use the best svg > > library available (librsvg currently) for the rendering. > > webkit could be another option. Not sure I'd like to have this new dependency. Jean From emmanuel@gnome.org Thu Aug 11 07:39:44 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: gnumeric-list@gnome.org Delivered-To: gnumeric-list@gnome.org Received: from localhost (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CC53B7500DE for ; Thu, 11 Aug 2011 07:39:44 +0000 (UTC) X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at gnome.org X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -1.121 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.121 tagged_above=-999 required=2 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, SPF_NEUTRAL=0.779] autolearn=no Received: from menubar.gnome.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (menubar.gnome.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id AgEdXJ-FS2Sk for ; Thu, 11 Aug 2011 07:39:43 +0000 (UTC) Received: from lappmails.in2p3.fr (lappmails.in2p3.fr [134.158.96.47]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 45B9B7500C7 for ; Thu, 11 Aug 2011 07:39:34 +0000 (UTC) Received: from [134.158.99.31] (lappc-p348.in2p3.fr [134.158.99.31]) (Authenticated sender: pacaud@lapp.in2p3.fr) by lappmails.in2p3.fr (Postfix) with ESMTP id A3B4081025F; Thu, 11 Aug 2011 09:39:32 +0200 (CEST) Subject: Re: Gnumeric, vectorial drawings (and charts) From: Emmanuel Pacaud To: Jean Brefort In-Reply-To: <1313004941.2442.10.camel@acer.brefort.fr> References: <1312623417.2558.17.camel@acer.brefort.fr> <1312987106.3895.23.camel@lappc-p348> <1313004941.2442.10.camel@acer.brefort.fr> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Date: Thu, 11 Aug 2011 09:39:30 +0200 Message-ID: <1313048370.3034.11.camel@lappc-p348> Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Evolution 2.32.2 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Cc: Gnumeric List X-BeenThere: gnumeric-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: GNOME spreadsheet List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 11 Aug 2011 07:39:45 -0000 Hi, Le mercredi 10 août 2011 à 21:35 +0200, Jean Brefort a écrit : > > > The second would avoid to depend on librsvg, but I don't know if > > > Emmanuel will actively support it in the future, even in the near > > > future. Actually we might also consider importing the mathml code in > > > goffice. > > > > Why would you want to do that ? > > Just a possibility if lasem went unmaintained, which might happen as it > is a one man project. Sure it can happen. But by moving the mathml code in goffice, you will take over the maintainership. Why no keep it in a standalone source package ? > > I think you highly underestimate the difficulty of SVG rendering, shown > > by the fact that all the modern web browsers fail to have a decent > > coverage of the SVG 1.1 specification. > > I don't underestimate anything. I know it would be a long term issue. What I don't get is you have two existing projects, one of them having a pretty good coverage of the SVG specification (librsvg) and a large user base, and you would start a new project from scratch. What for ? Emmanuel. From jean.brefort@normalesup.org Thu Aug 11 07:49:36 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: gnumeric-list@gnome.org Delivered-To: gnumeric-list@gnome.org Received: from localhost (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6C6327500DE; Thu, 11 Aug 2011 07:49:36 +0000 (UTC) X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at gnome.org X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -1.121 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.121 tagged_above=-999 required=2 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE=-0.0001, SPF_NEUTRAL=0.779] autolearn=no Received: from menubar.gnome.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (menubar.gnome.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id yw7vyz8jy1OP; Thu, 11 Aug 2011 07:49:34 +0000 (UTC) Received: from smtp1-g21.free.fr (smtp1-g21.free.fr [212.27.42.1]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2E7507500C7; Thu, 11 Aug 2011 07:49:23 +0000 (UTC) Received: from [IPv6:2a01:e35:8ac4:1010:219:7dff:fecc:cce7] (unknown [IPv6:2a01:e35:8ac4:1010:219:7dff:fecc:cce7]) by smtp1-g21.free.fr (Postfix) with ESMTP id 286029400C8; Thu, 11 Aug 2011 09:49:16 +0200 (CEST) Subject: Re: Gnumeric, vectorial drawings (and charts) From: Jean Brefort To: Emmanuel Pacaud In-Reply-To: <1313048370.3034.11.camel@lappc-p348> References: <1312623417.2558.17.camel@acer.brefort.fr> <1312987106.3895.23.camel@lappc-p348> <1313004941.2442.10.camel@acer.brefort.fr> <1313048370.3034.11.camel@lappc-p348> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Date: Thu, 11 Aug 2011 09:53:50 +0200 Message-ID: <1313049230.2395.2.camel@acer.brefort.fr> Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Evolution 2.32.3 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Cc: Gnumeric List X-BeenThere: gnumeric-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: GNOME spreadsheet List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 11 Aug 2011 07:49:36 -0000 Le jeudi 11 août 2011 à 09:39 +0200, Emmanuel Pacaud a écrit : > Hi, > > Le mercredi 10 août 2011 à 21:35 +0200, Jean Brefort a écrit : > > > > The second would avoid to depend on librsvg, but I don't know if > > > > Emmanuel will actively support it in the future, even in the near > > > > future. Actually we might also consider importing the mathml code in > > > > goffice. > > > > > > Why would you want to do that ? > > > > Just a possibility if lasem went unmaintained, which might happen as it > > is a one man project. > > Sure it can happen. But by moving the mathml code in goffice, you will > take over the maintainership. Why no keep it in a standalone source > package ? > > > > I think you highly underestimate the difficulty of SVG rendering, shown > > > by the fact that all the modern web browsers fail to have a decent > > > coverage of the SVG 1.1 specification. > > > > I don't underestimate anything. I know it would be a long term issue. > > What I don't get is you have two existing projects, one of them having a > pretty good coverage of the SVG specification (librsvg) and a large user > base, and you would start a new project from scratch. What for ? EMF support is the priority since it seems that we have no usable alternative. Other format might follow later or not. Jean From eric.brackenbury@gmail.com Thu Aug 11 15:19:01 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: gnumeric-list@gnome.org Delivered-To: gnumeric-list@gnome.org Received: from localhost (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id AD1777501CF for ; Thu, 11 Aug 2011 15:19:01 +0000 (UTC) X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at gnome.org X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -1.708 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.708 tagged_above=-999 required=2 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, FREEMAIL_FROM=0.001, HTML_FONT_FACE_BAD=0.981, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_LOW=-0.7, SPF_PASS=-0.001, T_TO_NO_BRKTS_FREEMAIL=0.01] autolearn=ham Received: from menubar.gnome.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (menubar.gnome.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id MFDCeiQ8e2S0 for ; Thu, 11 Aug 2011 15:18:59 +0000 (UTC) Received: from mail-bw0-f54.google.com (mail-bw0-f54.google.com [209.85.214.54]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 237EA750115 for ; Thu, 11 Aug 2011 15:18:50 +0000 (UTC) Received: by bkat8 with SMTP id t8so2119069bka.27 for ; Thu, 11 Aug 2011 08:18:49 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:from:date:message-id:subject:to:content-type; bh=9SOQLDZrIKjVJwlVTYJH2GC25P8vjSGh1o904Xxl3s0=; b=qND9m2GeYxPJSwP/kjgFaQz8Nz9+L8RhrE5R3D+8oVs4kZjViDyJsSi7x1yC/5dwJJ 7gERd4RPlQej0VoZ91pLMuRdx5IjLDjAoB92q+9hFDddKVKyX6eT0qer24iT00p/iGkf HkKbQNVi8z6FqlvHAMwYqAwEu6kIkdQ6zvqBI= Received: by 10.204.50.130 with SMTP id z2mr2533681bkf.0.1313075929084; Thu, 11 Aug 2011 08:18:49 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.147.113.7 with HTTP; Thu, 11 Aug 2011 08:11:29 -0700 (PDT) From: Eric Brackenbury Date: Thu, 11 Aug 2011 11:11:29 -0400 Message-ID: Subject: Re: gnumeric & vector graphics To: gnumeric-list@gnome.org Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=000325557f9250f24304aa3c5097 X-BeenThere: gnumeric-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: GNOME spreadsheet List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 11 Aug 2011 15:19:01 -0000 --000325557f9250f24304aa3c5097 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Hello First I will introduce myself, I am not a code person but I have been enjoying this thread and have a question ! Why would someone want to manipulate an .svg file in anything but an appropriate piece of software then size and save it in a suitable file format to input into gnumeric. As an example of my thinking, when I work in Inkscape and insert an image from Gimp it does precisely what I want so I am reasoning this is the same sort of issue. Its always a problem to try to please all the people all the time so I like to keep things as simple as possible :-)) Thanks you all for you very hard work. Regards Eric Brackenbury http://www.therecycledteenager.blogspot.com/ Life should NOT be a journey to the grave with the intention of arriving safely in a well-preserved body, but rather to skid in sideways, body thoroughly used up, totally worn out and screaming *"WOO HOO - what a ride!" * But K-eep L-ocktite R-eady and stay in the D-irt R-iding Z-one --000325557f9250f24304aa3c5097 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

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--000325557f9250f24304aa3c5097-- From jean.brefort@normalesup.org Thu Aug 11 15:25:52 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: gnumeric-list@gnome.org Delivered-To: gnumeric-list@gnome.org Received: from localhost (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 880ED750115 for ; Thu, 11 Aug 2011 15:25:52 +0000 (UTC) X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at gnome.org X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -1.121 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.121 tagged_above=-999 required=2 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE=-0.0001, SPF_NEUTRAL=0.779] autolearn=no Received: from menubar.gnome.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (menubar.gnome.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id ngzDHf-Esbtg for ; Thu, 11 Aug 2011 15:25:48 +0000 (UTC) Received: from smtp1-g21.free.fr (smtp1-g21.free.fr [212.27.42.1]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BE41E7501CF for ; Thu, 11 Aug 2011 15:25:37 +0000 (UTC) Received: from [IPv6:2a01:e35:8ac4:1010:219:7dff:fecc:cce7] (unknown [IPv6:2a01:e35:8ac4:1010:219:7dff:fecc:cce7]) by smtp1-g21.free.fr (Postfix) with ESMTP id CF9E1940078; Thu, 11 Aug 2011 17:25:31 +0200 (CEST) Subject: Re: gnumeric & vector graphics From: Jean Brefort To: Eric Brackenbury In-Reply-To: References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Date: Thu, 11 Aug 2011 17:30:14 +0200 Message-ID: <1313076615.2395.4.camel@acer.brefort.fr> Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Evolution 2.32.3 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Cc: gnumeric-list@gnome.org X-BeenThere: gnumeric-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: GNOME spreadsheet List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 11 Aug 2011 15:25:52 -0000 Le jeudi 11 août 2011 à 11:11 -0400, Eric Brackenbury a écrit : > Hello > First I will introduce myself, I am not a code person but I have been > enjoying this thread and have a question ! > > > Why would someone want to manipulate an .svg file in anything but an > appropriate piece of software then size and save it in a suitable file > format to input into gnumeric. We just need to load and display a variety of drawings inside gnumeric, not editing them. Regards, Jean > > As an example of my thinking, when I work in Inkscape and insert an > image from Gimp it does precisely what I want so I am reasoning this > is the same sort of issue. > > > Its always a problem to try to please all the people all the time so I > like to keep things as simple as possible :-)) > Thanks you all for you very hard work. > Regards > Eric Brackenbury > > > > > > http://www.therecycledteenager.blogspot.com/ > > Life should NOT be a journey to the grave with the intention of > arriving safely in a well-preserved body, but rather to skid in > sideways, body thoroughly used up, totally worn out and screaming "WOO > HOO - what a ride!" > > But > K-eep L-ocktite R-eady and stay in the D-irt R-iding Z-one > > > _______________________________________________ > gnumeric-list mailing list > gnumeric-list@gnome.org > http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/gnumeric-list From jean.brefort@normalesup.org Fri Aug 12 13:38:43 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: gnumeric-list@gnome.org Delivered-To: gnumeric-list@gnome.org Received: from localhost (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 55DAB7500CE for ; Fri, 12 Aug 2011 13:38:43 +0000 (UTC) X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at gnome.org X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -1.121 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.121 tagged_above=-999 required=2 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE=-0.0001, SPF_NEUTRAL=0.779] autolearn=no Received: from menubar.gnome.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (menubar.gnome.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id gzIwxltKmjwm for ; Fri, 12 Aug 2011 13:38:39 +0000 (UTC) Received: from smtp1-g21.free.fr (smtp1-g21.free.fr [212.27.42.1]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 59CD5750069 for ; Fri, 12 Aug 2011 13:38:29 +0000 (UTC) Received: from [IPv6:2a01:e35:8ac4:1010:219:7dff:fecc:cce7] (unknown [IPv6:2a01:e35:8ac4:1010:219:7dff:fecc:cce7]) by smtp1-g21.free.fr (Postfix) with ESMTP id D604994011C for ; Fri, 12 Aug 2011 15:38:23 +0200 (CEST) Subject: Bug #522243: Not display # N/A series in a chart From: Jean Brefort To: Gnumeric List Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Date: Fri, 12 Aug 2011 15:43:07 +0200 Message-ID: <1313156587.2444.11.camel@acer.brefort.fr> Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Evolution 2.32.3 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-BeenThere: gnumeric-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: GNOME spreadsheet List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 12 Aug 2011 13:38:43 -0000 Hi, Before doing anything for this bug, I would like to know what people want, in general. The question here is what should be done with series containing error values when dealing with the legend (errors are not displayed otherwise, as far as I know). We have several options: 1. don't display the series in the legend when it's name is actually an error message such as "#N/A"; 2. don't display the series if all it's data are error values, even if it's name is valid. 3. don't display the series when the series has no valid data. 4. always display the series, and rely on the user to uncheck the "Show in Legend" box if he does not want to see it in the legend. Currently option 4 is already there. Option 1 would be easy to implement, and option 2 and 3 are just a bit more tricky, but quite feasable anyway (but not my preferred). Some people might want to see all series in the legend whatever are the data, so I'm wondering if I should do something and what, or just mark this bug as WONTFIX. Regards, Jean P.S.: We might also change the "Show in Legend" logic to allow for more options such as never, always and only when there are valid data, might be option #5. From olly@burnett-hall.co.uk Sat Aug 13 08:14:50 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: gnumeric-list@gnome.org Delivered-To: gnumeric-list@gnome.org Received: from localhost (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A2685750112 for ; Sat, 13 Aug 2011 08:14:50 +0000 (UTC) X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at gnome.org X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -2.6 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.6 tagged_above=-999 required=2 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_LOW=-0.7] autolearn=ham Received: from menubar.gnome.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (menubar.gnome.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 0e9jFUiFGo0z for ; Sat, 13 Aug 2011 08:14:48 +0000 (UTC) Received: from mail-yx0-f182.google.com (mail-yx0-f182.google.com [209.85.213.182]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C163F7500CB for ; Sat, 13 Aug 2011 08:14:40 +0000 (UTC) Received: by yxl31 with SMTP id 31so3556814yxl.27 for ; Sat, 13 Aug 2011 01:14:38 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.101.26.17 with SMTP id d17mr1844505anj.82.1313223278634; Sat, 13 Aug 2011 01:14:38 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.100.153.1 with HTTP; Sat, 13 Aug 2011 01:14:38 -0700 (PDT) X-Originating-IP: [92.233.224.139] In-Reply-To: <1313156587.2444.11.camel@acer.brefort.fr> References: <1313156587.2444.11.camel@acer.brefort.fr> Date: Sat, 13 Aug 2011 09:14:38 +0100 Message-ID: Subject: Re: Bug #522243: Not display # N/A series in a chart From: Oliver Burnett-Hall To: Gnumeric List Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 X-BeenThere: gnumeric-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: GNOME spreadsheet List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 13 Aug 2011 08:14:50 -0000 On 12 August 2011 14:43, Jean Brefort wrote: > > We have several options: > > 1. don't display the series in the legend when it's name is actually an > error message such as "#N/A"; I can see this being useful -- you would be able to create a chart with several series and toggle the visibility of different series by using a formula for the cell with the series name, and having this toggle between #N/A! and the series title depending on other cells' values. > 2. don't display the series if all it's data are error values, even if > it's name is valid. IMHO this would be a bad idea, using error values for data values makes it easy to have null data points and even null data series; this could make the series vanish entirely. > 3. don't display the series when the series has no valid data. What's the difference between this and option 2? For 3 do you mean no valid data AND an invalid series name? > 4. always display the series, and rely on the user to uncheck the "Show > in Legend" box if he does not want to see it in the legend. This is simple and I don't think there is much wrong with it. - olly From jean.brefort@normalesup.org Sat Aug 13 08:37:53 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: gnumeric-list@gnome.org Delivered-To: gnumeric-list@gnome.org Received: from localhost (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7BF517500E5 for ; Sat, 13 Aug 2011 08:37:53 +0000 (UTC) X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at gnome.org X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -1.121 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.121 tagged_above=-999 required=2 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE=-0.0001, SPF_NEUTRAL=0.779] autolearn=no Received: from menubar.gnome.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (menubar.gnome.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id wLg9MjqioI7H for ; Sat, 13 Aug 2011 08:37:51 +0000 (UTC) Received: from smtp1-g21.free.fr (smtp1-g21.free.fr [212.27.42.1]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id ADA6C7500C2 for ; Sat, 13 Aug 2011 08:37:40 +0000 (UTC) Received: from [IPv6:2a01:e35:8ac4:1010:219:7dff:fecc:cce7] (unknown [IPv6:2a01:e35:8ac4:1010:219:7dff:fecc:cce7]) by smtp1-g21.free.fr (Postfix) with ESMTP id D25289400AD; Sat, 13 Aug 2011 10:37:34 +0200 (CEST) Subject: Re: Bug #522243: Not display # N/A series in a chart From: Jean Brefort To: Oliver Burnett-Hall In-Reply-To: References: <1313156587.2444.11.camel@acer.brefort.fr> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Date: Sat, 13 Aug 2011 10:42:18 +0200 Message-ID: <1313224938.2448.3.camel@acer.brefort.fr> Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Evolution 2.32.3 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Cc: Gnumeric List X-BeenThere: gnumeric-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: GNOME spreadsheet List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 13 Aug 2011 08:37:53 -0000 Le samedi 13 août 2011 à 09:14 +0100, Oliver Burnett-Hall a écrit : > On 12 August 2011 14:43, Jean Brefort wrote: > > > > We have several options: > > > > 1. don't display the series in the legend when it's name is actually an > > error message such as "#N/A"; > > I can see this being useful -- you would be able to create a chart > with several series and toggle the visibility of different series by > using a formula for the cell with the series name, and having this > toggle between #N/A! and the series title depending on other cells' > values. > > > 2. don't display the series if all it's data are error values, even if > > it's name is valid. > > IMHO this would be a bad idea, using error values for data values > makes it easy to have null data points and even null data series; this > could make the series vanish entirely. > > > 3. don't display the series when the series has no valid data. > > What's the difference between this and option 2? For 3 do you mean no > valid data AND an invalid series name? No, that would be if there is nothing to draw (might be empty cells instead of errors). > 4. always display the series, and rely on the user to uncheck the "Show > > in Legend" box if he does not want to see it in the legend. > > This is simple and I don't think there is much wrong with it. This is the current situation. What I'd like to avoid is implement option 1 and get a bug report from somebody who would like (or need) seeing error values in the legend. Jean From jean.brefort@normalesup.org Sat Aug 13 14:05:48 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: gnumeric-list@gnome.org Delivered-To: gnumeric-list@gnome.org Received: from localhost (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6CE0C750110 for ; Sat, 13 Aug 2011 14:05:48 +0000 (UTC) X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at gnome.org X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -1.121 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.121 tagged_above=-999 required=2 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE=-0.0001, SPF_NEUTRAL=0.779] autolearn=no Received: from menubar.gnome.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (menubar.gnome.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id s+M7sSFZzOTM for ; Sat, 13 Aug 2011 14:05:46 +0000 (UTC) Received: from smtp1-g21.free.fr (smtp1-g21.free.fr [212.27.42.1]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id ABD2C7500CB for ; Sat, 13 Aug 2011 14:05:36 +0000 (UTC) Received: from [IPv6:2a01:e35:8ac4:1010:219:7dff:fecc:cce7] (unknown [IPv6:2a01:e35:8ac4:1010:219:7dff:fecc:cce7]) by smtp1-g21.free.fr (Postfix) with ESMTP id 943B39400F9 for ; Sat, 13 Aug 2011 16:05:30 +0200 (CEST) Subject: Re: Bug #522243: Not display # N/A series in a chart From: Jean Brefort To: gnumeric-list@gnome.org In-Reply-To: References: <1313156587.2444.11.camel@acer.brefort.fr> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Date: Sat, 13 Aug 2011 16:10:14 +0200 Message-ID: <1313244614.2448.4.camel@acer.brefort.fr> Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Evolution 2.32.3 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-BeenThere: gnumeric-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: GNOME spreadsheet List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 13 Aug 2011 14:05:48 -0000 Le samedi 13 août 2011 à 09:14 +0100, Oliver Burnett-Hall a écrit : > I can see this being useful -- you would be able to create a chart > with several series and toggle the visibility of different series by > using a formula for the cell with the series name, and having this > toggle between #N/A! and the series title depending on other cells' > values. Hmm, the idea was just to remove the entry from the legend. Hiding the whole series is a bit different. 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I can only say it seems to happen with relatively large datasets.

So how could we solve this problem?

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--20cf303f6abc8b18f104ab1df50b-- From andreas.guelzow@concordia.ab.ca Mon Aug 22 22:12:37 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: gnumeric-list@gnome.org Delivered-To: gnumeric-list@gnome.org Received: from localhost (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 67D61750261 for ; Mon, 22 Aug 2011 22:12:37 +0000 (UTC) X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at gnome.org X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -2.374 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.374 tagged_above=-999 required=2 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, RP_MATCHES_RCVD=-0.473, SPF_PASS=-0.001] autolearn=ham Received: from menubar.gnome.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (menubar.gnome.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id MoILlYl8bxsd for ; Mon, 22 Aug 2011 22:12:34 +0000 (UTC) X-Greylist: delayed 356 seconds by postgrey-1.32 at menubar.gnome.org; Mon, 22 Aug 2011 22:12:34 UTC Received: from mail.concordia.ab.ca (flyingmonkey.concordia.ab.ca [199.185.120.58]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9FE667502EA for ; Mon, 22 Aug 2011 22:12:26 +0000 (UTC) Received: from [192.168.0.193] (199.19.220.141) by eureka.adanet.concordia.ab.ca (10.3.0.166) with Microsoft SMTP Server id 8.3.159.2; Mon, 22 Aug 2011 16:06:28 -0600 Subject: Re: pb with copy/paste From: "Andreas J. Guelzow" To: In-Reply-To: References: Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="=-RKTm9JJE1v7drwmXY5Bq" Organization: Concordia University College of Alberta Date: Mon, 22 Aug 2011 16:06:24 -0600 Message-ID: <1314050784.11595.7.camel@kirkman> MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Evolution 2.32.2 X-Mailman-Approved-At: Mon, 22 Aug 2011 22:31:41 +0000 X-BeenThere: gnumeric-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: GNOME spreadsheet List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 22 Aug 2011 22:12:37 -0000 --=-RKTm9JJE1v7drwmXY5Bq Content-Type: text/plain; charset="ISO-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Mon, 2011-08-22 at 22:31 +0200, Frederic Parrenin wrote: >=20 > I have a various problems when trying to copy/paste between two > instances of gnumeric or when copy from/to gedit: > - sometimes nothing happens > - sometimes the text importer is launched and the header of the file > appears with strange tags like > - and even sometimes gnumeric crashes >=20 >=20 > I have already complained about this and I know I should fill bug > reports but the problem is that these behaviour are not reproductible. > Usually, restarting gnumeric and/or gedit will solve the problem. > I can only say it seems to happen with relatively large datasets. First of all you have to confirm that you are not running any clipboard manager such as clipper, klipper, ... To debug gnumeric's clipboard handling it is usually helpful to run it with the GNM_DEBUG environment variable set to "clipboard". This will create lots of information on the terminal. Andreas --=20 Andreas Guelzow --=20 Andreas J. Guelzow, PhD, FTICA Concordia University College of Alberta --=-RKTm9JJE1v7drwmXY5Bq Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name="signature.asc" Content-Description: This is a digitally signed message part -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.11 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQBOUtLgJ1WZh1HYgPsRAku4AJ9a3IXoM2rLRFjX11Vsua+kGEFKvwCfWhAK n6AkA9PyyCE8GVZ5oi9U8jE= =c2Zj -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --=-RKTm9JJE1v7drwmXY5Bq-- From parrenin@gmail.com Tue Aug 23 07:35:21 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: gnumeric-list@gnome.org Delivered-To: gnumeric-list@gnome.org Received: from localhost (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0FCDE750077 for ; Tue, 23 Aug 2011 07:35:21 +0000 (UTC) X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at gnome.org X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -2.699 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.699 tagged_above=-999 required=2 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, FREEMAIL_FROM=0.001, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_LOW=-0.7, SPF_PASS=-0.001] autolearn=ham Received: from menubar.gnome.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (menubar.gnome.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id txzImKQaIiCg for ; Tue, 23 Aug 2011 07:35:17 +0000 (UTC) Received: from mail-gx0-f182.google.com (mail-gx0-f182.google.com [209.85.161.182]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9BB4975005F for ; Tue, 23 Aug 2011 07:35:09 +0000 (UTC) Received: by gxk28 with SMTP id 28so6433242gxk.27 for ; Tue, 23 Aug 2011 00:35:07 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; bh=ZDZ0GEWFdaZC2wO+EpU4O7sfq1RN4qiskXCX+veqbz0=; b=bYLCU4U613g21a+Z5RG1pBG+IWvrtUs/ZYxV9/hNfA4lo1OfKMxY+DynWFsxSlZY0e i9Kmnc/VBQePEeAJVviM3QWbXkfVSY+uLWWDhvPhQLYKdGojVyPzlaLi9MHbY7s8MNE9 dWRthXqyxmkJDOxTW6YRWDG6GCZW8H99URUH4= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.236.78.200 with SMTP id g48mr21006056yhe.12.1314084907636; Tue, 23 Aug 2011 00:35:07 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.236.209.136 with HTTP; Tue, 23 Aug 2011 00:35:07 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <1314050784.11595.7.camel@kirkman> References: <1314050784.11595.7.camel@kirkman> Date: Tue, 23 Aug 2011 09:35:07 +0200 Message-ID: Subject: Re: pb with copy/paste From: Frederic Parrenin To: Gnumeric List Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=20cf300fb3071fd82a04ab273ca1 X-BeenThere: gnumeric-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: GNOME spreadsheet List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 23 Aug 2011 07:35:21 -0000 --20cf300fb3071fd82a04ab273ca1 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable > > > First of all you have to confirm that you are not running any clipboard > manager such as clipper, klipper, ... > Not that I am aware of. > > To debug gnumeric's clipboard handling it is usually helpful to run it > with the GNM_DEBUG environment variable set to "clipboard". This will > create lots of information on the terminal. > OK, I will. Fr=E9d=E9ric > > Andreas > > -- > Andreas Guelzow > > -- > Andreas J. Guelzow, PhD, FTICA > Concordia University College of Alberta > > _______________________________________________ > gnumeric-list mailing list > gnumeric-list@gnome.org > http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/gnumeric-list > > --=20 http://parrenin.frederic.free.fr/ --20cf300fb3071fd82a04ab273ca1 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

First of all you have to confirm that you are not running any clipboa= rd
manager such as clipper, klipper, ...

N= ot that I am aware of.

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To debug gnumeric's clipboard handling it is usually helpful to run it<= br> with the GNM_DEBUG environment variable set to "clipboard". This = will
create lots of information on the terminal.

OK, I will.

Fr=E9d=E9ric

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Andreas

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--20cf300fb3071fd82a04ab273ca1-- From coxchris0@gmail.com Mon Aug 29 07:38:52 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: gnumeric-list@gnome.org Delivered-To: gnumeric-list@gnome.org Received: from localhost (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0FB827500E0 for ; Mon, 29 Aug 2011 07:38:52 +0000 (UTC) X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at gnome.org X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -0.7 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-0.7 tagged_above=-999 required=2 tests=[BAYES_40=-0.001, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, FREEMAIL_ENVFROM_END_DIGIT=0.1, FREEMAIL_FROM=0.001, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_LOW=-0.7, SPF_PASS=-0.001] autolearn=ham Received: from menubar.gnome.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (menubar.gnome.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 5BrEMhfRr-Qq for ; Mon, 29 Aug 2011 07:38:46 +0000 (UTC) Received: from mail-pz0-f41.google.com (mail-pz0-f41.google.com [209.85.210.41]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id F13A77500CF for ; Mon, 29 Aug 2011 07:38:37 +0000 (UTC) Received: by pzk4 with SMTP id 4so8649423pzk.0 for ; Mon, 29 Aug 2011 00:38:36 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=from:to:subject:date:message-id:mime-version:content-type:x-mailer :thread-index:x-antivirus:x-avg-id:x-mimeole; bh=Kqe4qzdvu2T1lGm0YvNiXLQD4pFQFnFvCmk16t6KCgg=; b=jK3eB7/kb2ZZ5vak8y/7Y+5PsrAECr8/lBsIgjcaIvc5Hox506UVJXffVE98tJWhqW mfUu1DED5KxTSZd7lfujqmSCOlGbj1xPbUVgyfQ8RVUHH6yX8WnUI/Ymm3VpJf7cU/yd W3SZAq1dnlhVz0PufNqWFyUbcMlZgHxlMOy9s= Received: by 10.143.99.5 with SMTP id b5mr2380670wfm.315.1314603516109; Mon, 29 Aug 2011 00:38:36 -0700 (PDT) Received: from ChrisCox ([121.97.147.51]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id b7sm17382062pbm.0.2011.08.29.00.38.31 (version=SSLv3 cipher=OTHER); Mon, 29 Aug 2011 00:38:34 -0700 (PDT) From: "Chris Cox" To: Subject: Problem with Gnumeric Spreadsheet 1.10.14 Date: Mon, 29 Aug 2011 15:38:26 +0800 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_002E_01CC6661.B520D370" X-Mailer: Microsoft Office Outlook 11 Thread-Index: AcxmHqHSwQATNV5BQOGScP5XHclx1g== x-antivirus: AVG for E-mail x-avg-id: ID76B7DAAE-282E68EB X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.6109 X-Mailman-Approved-At: Mon, 29 Aug 2011 09:11:56 +0000 X-BeenThere: gnumeric-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: GNOME spreadsheet List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 29 Aug 2011 07:38:52 -0000 This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_002E_01CC6661.B520D370 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Dear developers, I'm just an average computer user who decided to download the program as an alternative to MS Excel 2003. Gnumeric itself works 100% but I've encountered a problem as follows:- 1) I've found that all the previous Excel worksheets saved in my docs have been converted to Gnumeric file format. 2) This in itself is not a problem on my pc but when I wish to send an XLS workbook created in Excel 2003 as an email attachment, this defaults to Gnumeric XLS file. As I understand it, this would mean the recipient of the mail would have to have Gnumeric installed to be able to open the file? 3) Is there a way for me to create Gnumeric files only for those spreadsheets created using the software and vice versa for MS Excel? Ie I wish to keep the formats separate from one another. 4) I've tried uninstalling Gnumeric but when I do, the XLS files in My Docs still appear as Gnumeric flies irrespective of whether or not they are or were previously created as MS Excel files. For your guidance I have the following installed:- * Windows XP * MS Office Professional Edition 2003 Many thanks for you kind assistance. Sincerely Chris Cox Cell: 082 450 4772 Home: 021 797 1682 Fax: 0865 515 779 mailto:coxchris0@gmail.com ------=_NextPart_000_002E_01CC6661.B520D370 Content-Type: text/html; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

Dear developers, I’m just an average = computer user who decided to download the = program as an alternative to MS Excel 2003. Gnumeric itself works = 100% but I’ve encountered a problem as follows:-

1) = I’ve found that all the previous Excel worksheets saved in my docs have been = converted to Gnumeric file format.

2) = This in itself is not a problem on my pc but when I wish to send an XLS = workbook created in Excel 2003 as an email attachment, this defaults to Gnumeric XLS = file. As I understand it, this would mean the recipient of the mail would have to have = Gnumeric installed to be able to open the file?

3) = Is there a way for me to create Gnumeric files only for those spreadsheets = created using the software and vice versa for MS Excel? Ie I wish to keep the = formats separate from one another.

4) = I’ve tried uninstalling Gnumeric but when I do, the XLS files in My Docs = still appear as Gnumeric flies irrespective of whether or not they are or were = previously created as MS Excel files.

For your guidance I have the following = installed:-

Windows = XP
MS = Office Professional Edition 2003

Many thanks for you kind assistance. =

Sincerely =

Chris Cox

Cell: 082 450 = 4772

Home: 021 797 1682

Fax: 0865 515 = 779

mailto:coxchris0@gmail.com

------=_NextPart_000_002E_01CC6661.B520D370-- From hal.ashburner@gmail.com Mon Aug 29 09:29:32 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: gnumeric-list@gnome.org Delivered-To: gnumeric-list@gnome.org Received: from localhost (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4B6EF7500E0 for ; Mon, 29 Aug 2011 09:29:32 +0000 (UTC) X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at gnome.org X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -2.599 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.599 tagged_above=-999 required=2 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, FREEMAIL_FROM=0.001, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_LOW=-0.7, SPF_PASS=-0.001] autolearn=ham Received: from menubar.gnome.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (menubar.gnome.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id A51IQOPnwWS4 for ; Mon, 29 Aug 2011 09:29:29 +0000 (UTC) Received: from mail-gw0-f54.google.com (mail-gw0-f54.google.com [74.125.83.54]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 595E77500CF for ; Mon, 29 Aug 2011 09:29:20 +0000 (UTC) Received: by gwb15 with SMTP id 15so6747821gwb.27 for ; Mon, 29 Aug 2011 02:29:19 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=sender:subject:mime-version:content-type:from:in-reply-to:date:cc :message-id:references:to:x-mailer; bh=BC7/8Wpczsl7BTCHYgTs007zODXrchfx8x7WyoF1M/A=; b=BaTbFWo30AuX1yY/pPfMbtxk5TbJWcZOpASssBeZbZEQKJqFduiZ05AoTADpKiFteq AdDJrvpvLhZCzHQT4yDwczfNgOrbdvz1jV+k+xl2a8GavdStCKvNpMPUJiAR3gRe7hwA 2pKeIym6y2IzjUEKOR0JuK58RmPz5Wshs6lE4= Received: by 10.43.50.1 with SMTP id vc1mr4436388icb.216.1314610159095; Mon, 29 Aug 2011 02:29:19 -0700 (PDT) Received: from [192.168.43.139] ([42.241.116.190]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id b9sm2516868ibb.15.2011.08.29.02.29.14 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=OTHER); Mon, 29 Aug 2011 02:29:18 -0700 (PDT) Sender: Hal Ashburner Subject: Re: Problem with Gnumeric Spreadsheet 1.10.14 Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v1244.3) Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="Apple-Mail=_BA84DAFB-8CE1-493C-AA94-B6A2CFC02B88" From: Hal Ashburner In-Reply-To: Date: Mon, 29 Aug 2011 19:28:48 +1000 Message-Id: <792EBCB4-2A7C-4A18-9F39-1BF92A20CFC8@ashburner.info> References: To: "Chris Cox" X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.1244.3) Cc: gnumeric-list@gnome.org X-BeenThere: gnumeric-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: GNOME spreadsheet List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 29 Aug 2011 09:29:32 -0000 --Apple-Mail=_BA84DAFB-8CE1-493C-AA94-B6A2CFC02B88 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252 On 29/Aug/2011, at 5:38 PM, Chris Cox wrote: > Dear developers, I=92m just an average computer user who decided to = download the program as an alternative to MS Excel 2003. Gnumeric itself = works 100% but I=92ve encountered a problem as follows:- > =20 > 1) I=92ve found that all the previous Excel worksheets saved in my = docs have been converted to Gnumeric file format. > =20 > 2) This in itself is not a problem on my pc but when I wish to = send an XLS workbook created in Excel 2003 as an email attachment, this = defaults to Gnumeric XLS file. As I understand it, this would mean the = recipient of the mail would have to have Gnumeric installed to be able = to open the file? > =20 > 3) Is there a way for me to create Gnumeric files only for those = spreadsheets created using the software and vice versa for MS Excel? Ie = I wish to keep the formats separate from one another. > =20 > 4) I=92ve tried uninstalling Gnumeric but when I do, the XLS files = in My Docs still appear as Gnumeric flies irrespective of whether or not = they are or were previously created as MS Excel files. > =20 > For your guidance I have the following installed:- > =20 > Windows XP > MS Office Professional Edition 2003 > =20 > Many thanks for you kind assistance. Hi Chris, I think I understand what is going on here. There are two different and distinct things we need to be aware of. 1) the file format. Gnumeric can create, read and write MS Excel = compatible files with the .xls extension. eg myfile.xls Gnumeric can also create files using its own file format, these have the = .gnumeric extension eg myfile.gnumeric these are much more betterer for = a bazillion reasons but you can't use it if you want excel to be able to = open and read the files you're creating and modifying in gnumeric.=20 2) Windows has a thing called "File Associations" this is what windows = uses to know what program to start when you open a file. e.g. if you = open a file called myfile.txt it launches notepad and opens the file = using notepad. With Office installed it sets default file associations for .xls to = excel and .doc to Word. These file associations are only suggestions, they can be changed and = overridden. Eg if the default spreadsheet is Excel such that double = clicking an .xls file launches excel you can still launch the gnumeric = program and open that same file with gnumeric regardless of the file = association. I think 2 is your issue. If you look up your windows documentation on = how to set file associations you can change it and it should make no = difference as to whether you can open the file with Excel. You should test this by creating an .xls file with excel, then opening = it with gnumeric, then create another spreadsheet with gnumeric (being = sure to save it as an excel compatible file) and checking you can open = that in excel. This way you won't have any issues with sharing files with other people = unfortunate enough to still be using the vastly inferior spreadsheet = from microsoft. All the best, Hal Ashburner= --Apple-Mail=_BA84DAFB-8CE1-493C-AA94-B6A2CFC02B88 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/html; charset=windows-1252

On 29/Aug/2011, at 5:38 PM, Chris Cox wrote:

Dear = developers, I=92m just an average computer user who decided to download = the program as an = alternative to MS Excel 2003. Gnumeric itself works 100% but I=92ve = encountered a problem as = follows:-

<= /font>I=92ve found that all = the previous Excel worksheets saved in my docs have been converted to = Gnumeric file format.

<= /font>This in itself is not = a problem on my pc but when I wish to send an XLS workbook created in = Excel 2003 as an email attachment, this defaults to Gnumeric XLS file. = As I understand it, this would mean the recipient of the mail would have = to have Gnumeric installed to be able to open the = file?
3) <= /font>Is there a way for me = to create Gnumeric files only for those spreadsheets created using the = software and vice versa for MS Excel? Ie I wish to keep the formats = separate from one another.

<= /font>I=92ve tried = uninstalling Gnumeric but when I do, the XLS files in My Docs still = appear as Gnumeric flies irrespective of whether or not they are or were = previously created as MS Excel files.

For your guidance I have the following = installed:-
Windows = XP
MS Office Professional Edition = 2003
Many = thanks for you kind = assistance.

Hi Chris,

I think I understand what is going = on here.

There are two different and distinct = things we need to be aware of.

1) the file = format. Gnumeric can create, read and write MS Excel compatible files = with the .xls extension. eg myfile.xls

Gnumeric can also = create files using its own file format, these have the .gnumeric = extension eg myfile.gnumeric these are much more betterer for a = bazillion reasons but you can't use it if you want excel to be able to = open and read the files you're creating and modifying in = gnumeric.

2) Windows has a thing called = "File Associations" this is what windows uses to know what program to = start when you open a file. e.g. if you open a file called myfile.txt it = launches notepad and opens the file using notepad.

With Office = installed it sets default file associations for .xls to excel and .doc = to Word.

These file associations are only suggestions, they = can be changed and overridden. Eg if the default spreadsheet is Excel = such that double clicking an .xls file launches excel you can still = launch the gnumeric program and open that same file with gnumeric = regardless of the file association.

I think 2 = is your issue. If you look up your windows documentation on how to set = file associations you can change it and it should make no difference as = to whether you can open the file with = Excel.

You should test this by creating = an .xls file with excel, then opening it with gnumeric, then create = another spreadsheet with gnumeric (being sure to save it as an excel = compatible file) and checking you can open that in = excel.

This way you won't have any issues with = sharing files with other people unfortunate enough to still be using the = vastly inferior spreadsheet from microsoft.

All = the best,

Hal = Ashburner

= --Apple-Mail=_BA84DAFB-8CE1-493C-AA94-B6A2CFC02B88-- From tarvid@ls.net Mon Aug 29 12:20:46 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: gnumeric-list@gnome.org Delivered-To: gnumeric-list@gnome.org Received: from localhost (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D87987502D7 for ; Mon, 29 Aug 2011 12:20:46 +0000 (UTC) X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at gnome.org X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -2.599 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.599 tagged_above=-999 required=2 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_LOW=-0.7] autolearn=ham Received: from menubar.gnome.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (menubar.gnome.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 8ndnkmpDfeB0 for ; Mon, 29 Aug 2011 12:20:43 +0000 (UTC) Received: from mail-ey0-f176.google.com (mail-ey0-f176.google.com [209.85.215.176]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id EB8637502A4 for ; Mon, 29 Aug 2011 12:20:34 +0000 (UTC) Received: by eyz10 with SMTP id 10so4122159eyz.21 for ; Mon, 29 Aug 2011 05:20:32 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.213.29.207 with SMTP id r15mr1835186ebc.7.1314620430406; Mon, 29 Aug 2011 05:20:30 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.213.29.199 with HTTP; Mon, 29 Aug 2011 05:20:30 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <792EBCB4-2A7C-4A18-9F39-1BF92A20CFC8@ashburner.info> References: <792EBCB4-2A7C-4A18-9F39-1BF92A20CFC8@ashburner.info> Date: Mon, 29 Aug 2011 08:20:30 -0400 Message-ID: Subject: Re: Problem with Gnumeric Spreadsheet 1.10.14 From: Jim Tarvid To: Hal Ashburner , gnumeric-list@gnome.org Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=000e0cd1fa96c4d5ab04aba3eb02 X-BeenThere: gnumeric-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: GNOME spreadsheet List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 29 Aug 2011 12:20:47 -0000 --000e0cd1fa96c4d5ab04aba3eb02 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Reinstall gnumeric. In gnumeric, open a file in gnumeric file format. File > Save as > File type: > MS Excel (tm) 97/2000/XP > Save There is also a command line converter ssconvert. E.G. ssconvert foo.gnumeric foo.xls Far too many options. Jim On Mon, Aug 29, 2011 at 5:28 AM, Hal Ashburner wrote: > > > > > > On 29/Aug/2011, at 5:38 PM, Chris Cox wrote: > > Dear developers, I=E2=80=99m just an average computer user who decided to= download > the program as an alternative to MS Excel 2003. Gnumeric itself works 100= % > but I=E2=80=99ve encountered a problem as follows:-**** > ** ** > 1) I=E2=80=99ve found that all the previous Excel worksheets saved in= my docs > have been converted to Gnumeric file format.**** > ** ** > 2) This in itself is not a problem on my pc but when I wish to send a= n > XLS workbook created in Excel 2003 as an email attachment, this defaults = to > Gnumeric XLS file. As I understand it, this would mean the recipient of t= he > mail would have to have Gnumeric installed to be able to open the file?**= * > * > ** ** > 3) Is there a way for me to create Gnumeric files only for those > spreadsheets created using the software and vice versa for MS Excel? Ie I > wish to keep the formats separate from one another.**** > ** ** > 4) I=E2=80=99ve tried uninstalling Gnumeric but when I do, the XLS fi= les in My > Docs still appear as Gnumeric flies irrespective of whether or not they a= re > or were previously created as MS Excel files.**** > ** ** > For your guidance I have the following installed:-**** > ** ** > > - Windows XP**** > - MS Office Professional Edition 2003**** > > ** ** > Many thanks for you kind assistance. > > > > Hi Chris, > I think I understand what is going on here. > > There are two different and distinct things we need to be aware of. > > 1) the file format. Gnumeric can create, read and write MS Excel compatib= le > files with the .xls extension. eg myfile.xls > Gnumeric can also create files using its own file format, these have the > .gnumeric extension eg myfile.gnumeric these are much more betterer for a > bazillion reasons but you can't use it if you want excel to be able to op= en > and read the files you're creating and modifying in gnumeric. > > 2) Windows has a thing called "File Associations" this is what windows us= es > to know what program to start when you open a file. e.g. if you open a fi= le > called myfile.txt it launches notepad and opens the file using notepad. > With Office installed it sets default file associations for .xls to excel > and .doc to Word. > These file associations are only suggestions, they can be changed and > overridden. Eg if the default spreadsheet is Excel such that double click= ing > an .xls file launches excel you can still launch the gnumeric program and > open that same file with gnumeric regardless of the file association. > > I think 2 is your issue. If you look up your windows documentation on how > to set file associations you can change it and it should make no differen= ce > as to whether you can open the file with Excel. > > You should test this by creating an .xls file with excel, then opening it > with gnumeric, then create another spreadsheet with gnumeric (being sure = to > save it as an excel compatible file) and checking you can open that in > excel. > > This way you won't have any issues with sharing files with other people > unfortunate enough to still be using the vastly inferior spreadsheet from > microsoft. > > All the best, > > Hal Ashburner > > _______________________________________________ > gnumeric-list mailing list > gnumeric-list@gnome.org > http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/gnumeric-list > > --=20 Kindness Works! Rev. Jim Tarvid, PCA 12897A Grays Pointe Road, Fairfax, Va 22033 38.8778239, -77.392696 http://ls.net --000e0cd1fa96c4d5ab04aba3eb02 Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Reinstall gnumeric.

In gnumeric, open a file in gnumeric= file format.

File > Save as > File type: &g= t; MS Excel (tm) 97/2000/XP > Save

There is als= o a command line converter ssconvert. E.G.=C2=A0ssconvert foo.gnumeric foo.= xls

Far too many options.

Jim

On Mon, Aug 29, 2011 at 5:28 AM,= Hal Ashburner <= hal@ashburner.info> wrote:

On 29/Aug/2011, at 5:38 PM, Chris Co= x wrote:

Dear developers, I=E2=80=99m just an average computer user who decided to = download the=C2=A0program<= span style=3D"font-size:12pt;font-family:Calibri">=C2=A0as an alternative to MS Excel 2003. Gnumeric itself works 10= 0% but I=E2=80=99ve encountered a problem as follows:-=

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1)=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2= =A0=C2=A0I=E2=80=99ve found that all the previous Excel worksheets saved in m= y docs have been converted to Gnumeric file format.

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2)=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2= =A0=C2=A0This in itself is not a problem on my pc but when I wish to send an = XLS workbook created in Excel 2003 as an email attachment, this defaults to= Gnumeric XLS file. As I understand it, this would mean the recipient of th= e mail would have to have Gnumeric installed to be able to open the file?

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3)=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2= =A0=C2=A0Is there a way for me to create Gnumeric files only for those spread= sheets created using the software and vice versa for MS Excel? Ie I wish to= keep the formats separate from one another.
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4)=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2= =A0=C2=A0I=E2=80=99ve tried uninstalling Gnumeric but when I do, the XLS file= s in My Docs still appear as Gnumeric flies irrespective of whether or not = they are or were previously created as MS Excel files.=

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For = your guidance I have the following installed:-<= /div>
<= /u>=C2=A0

Windows XP

MS Office Professional Edition 2003

=C2=A0

Many= thanks for you kind assistance.

<= div>Hi Chris,
I think I understand what is going on here.
There are two different and distinct things we need to be aware= of.

1) the file format. Gnumeric can create, read and write= MS Excel compatible files with the .xls extension. eg myfile.xls
Gnumeric can also create files using its own file format, these have the .= gnumeric extension eg myfile.gnumeric these are much more betterer for a ba= zillion reasons but you can't use it if you want excel to be able to op= en and read the files you're creating and modifying in gnumeric.=C2=A0<= /div>

2) Windows has a thing called "File Associations&q= uot; this is what windows uses to know what program to start when you open = a file. e.g. if you open a file called myfile.txt it launches notepad and o= pens the file using notepad.

With Office installed it sets default file associations for .xls to ex= cel and .doc to Word.
These file associations are only suggestion= s, they can be changed and overridden. Eg if the default spreadsheet is Exc= el such that double clicking an .xls file launches excel you can still laun= ch the gnumeric program and open that same file with gnumeric regardless of= the file association.

I think 2 is your issue. If you look up your windows do= cumentation on how to set file associations you can change it and it should= make no difference as to whether you can open the file with Excel.

You should test this by creating an .xls file wit= h excel, then opening it with gnumeric, then create another spreadsheet wit= h gnumeric (being sure to save it as an excel compatible file) and checking= you can open that in excel.

This way you won't have any issues with sharing fil= es with other people unfortunate enough to still be using the vastly inferi= or spreadsheet from microsoft.

All the best,

Hal Ashburner

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