Re: [orca-list] dealing with gnome-shell on new system



When I try:

Espeak hello

I get the following messages:
ALSA lib setup.c:548:(add_elem) Cannot obtain info for CTL elem (MIXER,'AC97 2ch->4ch Copy Switch',0,0,0): No 
such file or directory
ALSA lib pcm.c:2239:(snd_pcm_open_noupdate) Unknown PCM cards.pcm.center_lfe
ALSA lib pcm.c:2239:(snd_pcm_open_noupdate) Unknown PCM cards.pcm.side
ALSA lib pcm.c:2239:(snd_pcm_open_noupdate) Unknown PCM cards.pcm.surround21
ALSA lib pcm.c:2239:(snd_pcm_open_noupdate) Unknown PCM cards.pcm.surround21
ALSA lib setup.c:548:(add_elem) Cannot obtain info for CTL elem (MIXER,'AC97 2ch->4ch Copy Switch',0,0,0): No 
such file or directory
ALSA lib pcm.c:2239:(snd_pcm_open_noupdate) Unknown PCM cards.pcm.surround41
ALSA lib pcm.c:2239:(snd_pcm_open_noupdate) Unknown PCM cards.pcm.surround50
ALSA lib pcm.c:2239:(snd_pcm_open_noupdate) Unknown PCM cards.pcm.surround51
ALSA lib pcm.c:2239:(snd_pcm_open_noupdate) Unknown PCM cards.pcm.surround71
ALSA lib setup.c:548:(add_elem) Cannot obtain info for CTL elem (PCM,'IEC958 Playback PCM Stream',0,0,0): No 
such file or directory
ALSA lib setup.c:548:(add_elem) Cannot obtain info for CTL elem (PCM,'IEC958 Playback PCM Stream',0,0,0): No 
such file or directory
ALSA lib setup.c:548:(add_elem) Cannot obtain info for CTL elem (PCM,'IEC958 Playback PCM Stream',0,0,0): No 
such file or directory
ALSA lib pcm.c:2239:(snd_pcm_open_noupdate) Unknown PCM cards.pcm.hdmi
ALSA lib pcm.c:2239:(snd_pcm_open_noupdate) Unknown PCM cards.pcm.hdmi
ALSA lib pcm.c:2239:(snd_pcm_open_noupdate) Unknown PCM cards.pcm.modem
ALSA lib pcm.c:2239:(snd_pcm_open_noupdate) Unknown PCM cards.pcm.modem
ALSA lib pcm.c:2239:(snd_pcm_open_noupdate) Unknown PCM cards.pcm.phoneline
ALSA lib pcm.c:2239:(snd_pcm_open_noupdate) Unknown PCM cards.pcm.phoneline
ALSA lib pulse.c:243:(pulse_connect) PulseAudio: Unable to connect: Connection refused

ALSA lib pulse.c:243:(pulse_connect) PulseAudio: Unable to connect: Connection refused

Cannot connect to server socket err = No such file or directory
Cannot connect to server request channel
jack server is not running or cannot be started

I still think that I just don't have a sound driver loaded.
-----Original Message-----
From: B. Henry [mailto:burt1iband gmail com] 
Sent: Thursday, August 13, 2015 4:29 PM
To: Don Raikes; orca-list gnome org
Subject: Re: [orca-list] dealing with gnome-shell on new system

I have had trouble running PA on some hardware over the last several months, but not in a regular manner that 
could be predicted. The only solution I found was to remove the user's pulse directory from  ~/.config and 
reboot. On one machine I set up for a friend of a friend this happened so regularly that I made a script to 
replace the pulse directory with a backup of aworking configuration that had the sound adjusted to the user's 
liking. This was the only machine where  things muted so often, everything was muted and did not respond to 
media keys  nor alsamixer dommands to be clear. 
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-- 
     B.H.
   Registerd Linux User 521886


  Don Raikes wrote:
Wed, Aug 12, 2015 at 05:05:38PM -0700

Peter,

Thanks, the pactl commands did the trick once I remembered to enable 
the speaker in my vm :-) -----Original Message-----
From: Peter Vágner [mailto:pvdeejay gmail com]
Sent: Tuesday, August 11, 2015 11:23 PM
To: Don Raikes; Alex Midence; kendell clark
Cc: orca-list gnome org
Subject: Re: [orca-list] dealing with gnome-shell on new system

Hello,
Are you running pulseaudio or have you removed or prevented it from starting for a good reason?
Can you hear beeps through your sound card as you navigate to the start / end of a line in gnome terminal? 
i.e. after starting gnome terminal do multiple presses of the left and down arrow key cause that beeping 
sound to play?
Are you running this on desktop or on a laptop? Does this have multimedia keys so you can try just 
increasing sound volume if it has been inadvertently muted or is currently being set into a verry low level 
to be audible?
Can you just try using espeak through the gnome terminal e.g.
espeak hello

This are some questions from the top of my head to be able to decide 
what to do next. If you are using pulse audio then most likelly your 
sound is just muted. If you have no way to turn it up using the 
multimedia keys, you might try from the terminal Do you have multiple 
sound devices? If not then the following commands might be helpfull. 
You can even do this remotelly via SSH pactl set-sink-mute 0 0 pactl 
set-sink-volume 0 60%

If this does not work then you can see list of devices pulseaudio is 
seeing pacmd list-sinks | more They are indexed and you can replace 
the device index in the commands above where I have put 0 so if you 
are about to unmute pulseaudio sink numbered 1 you would instead do 
pactl set-sink-mute 1 0

If you are running with pulseaudio disabled or stopped then you need to tweak speech-dispatcher 
configuration not to use pulseaudio but to use alsa instead.
I have always been doing this by manually editing a file 
/etc/speech-dispatcher/speechd.conf
In this file there is a line like this # AudioOutputMethod "pulse"
You would need to change this into
AudioOutputMethod "alsa"

There is also utility app to change the configuration of speech-dispatcher called spd-conf however I have 
never use that.
One more hint. If espeak hello inside a gnome terminal works and you do know you are not running pulseaudio 
then you are sure you need to change speech-dispatcher output module configuration to alsa. This is because 
by default espeak either uses pulseaudio or alsa depending on what's available.

Greetings

Peter

On 12.08.2015 at 07:46 Don Raikes wrote:
So running spd-say hello gives me nothing  no sound no error messages nothing.
I did this from within a gnome-terminal.

So how do  I go about debugging speech-dispatcher?
-----Original Message-----
From: Peter Vágner [mailto:pvdeejay gmail com]
Sent: Tuesday, August 11, 2015 10:01 PM
To: Alex Midence; kendell clark
Cc: orca-list gnome org
Subject: Re: [orca-list] dealing with gnome-shell on new system

Hello,
Just little note to add. I think correct command to diagnose 
speech-dispatcher is spd-say hello

Greetings

Peter

On 12.08.2015 at 02:47 Alex Midence wrote:
Sounds like a problem with speech dispatcher. Orca appears to be running. Since you're getting braille 
feedback Type control alt T. And type -say ' Hello' .if you do not get any sound, then you have 
identified  your problem and need to troubleshoot speech dispatcher.

Sent from my iPhone

On Aug 11, 2015, at 7:25 PM, kendell clark <coffeekingms gmail com> wrote:

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hi
Gnome shell 3.14 is definitely usable with orca. What you might 
have to do is to turn the desktop icons back on in gnome tweak 
tool. For some reason they're off by default. I don't know whether 
kali linux has a mate version, and if not you'll have to install 
the mate desktop from teh kali repos. After this is done just 
select the mate session in gdm and you're good to go.
Thanks
Kendell clark


Don Raikes wrote:
Hello,

I just installed the latest version of kali linux (debian 
derrative). When I boot into the system, I have a couple of 
problems.

1. I am getting no sound out of orca. I am getting Braille 
feedback but no speech.

2.Unfortunately kali is using the new gnome-shell which seems to 
be almost impossible to use with orca.

Is there an easy way to deal with this gnome-shell desktop?

Gnome-shell 3.14.2-3

Gnome-orca 3.14.0

Is switching to mate a viable alternative, and how difficult is 
it to get everything working in mate?

-- Sincerely, Donald

Oracle <http://www.oracle.com/> Donald Raikes | Accessibility 
Specialist / Security Penetration Tester

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