Re: Confusion of Applet and Capplet :)

["Guillermo S. Romero / Familia Romero" <famrom infernal-iceberg com>]

glynn foster sun com (2001-06-21 at 1605.09 +0100):
> Well I guess we'll just have to wait and see that results with the
> control center once more....But from what I've read of the code, there
> is not really any need for a libcapplet....I mean, there is no try, revert
> ok, cancel interface anymore...just Ok and Cancel...hell, there is no
> special launching mechanism...they are just seperate simple gtk apps...

For most users they are plugins. Yes, you can launch as separate
windows, but they can be seen as plugins of the desktop. If you do not
use GNOME, you will do few things with them. :]

> Okay...some of those names were a little silly....but I don't see much
> of a reason if they don't translate...I mean, there are plenty of 
> made up terms everywhere and they aren't translated [shit, if only I 
> could think of an example]. With proper documentation this is easily

They are not translated due lack of local term or due "barbarismos"
(use the foreign word without traslation or minimal adaptation, ie
cederron was approved by our languaje academy as word for CDROM) and
both cases wrong (at least if the insist in preserving culture, but I
disgress). Anyway, if you want contribute to the English pool of weird
words, go ahead. /me runs

> a non-worry...The worry that I'm talking about is that some people 

Documentation? I think we agreed people do not read that. Otherwise
most of our problems will not exist.

> will not know if there is any difference between an applet [in the Java
> sense] and an applet [in the panel sense]....I don't know for sure
> if there will be much confusion....I guess it starts to get more confusing
> if people start using Java bindings....I just think it would be neat to

Yes, it will be confusing. "Launch an applet" "Which applet? This menu
or the other menu... or the things in this dir"

> come up with a new term that isn't used elsewhere...and if it is 
> something as boring as Calum suggested, then at least it will be meaningful.

[Mini | Panel] [Application | Program | Accessories] sound very fine
to me. I do not see any big reason to invent, but the contrary: users
will not have to learn more things. Calum's view, more or less.

> I'm still getting used to the idea of Panel Gizmos ;)

Can you explain me why Gizmo suits? I had to search it, and is marked
as an US word with ** ("use with lot care", just between * "relaxed
situations" and *** "offensive"). In Spanish "cachivache" (sounds as
junkyard item) or "artilugio" (mad scientist), not very serious, IMHO.

> Miniprogram...well in English that is 3 syllables....and I hate to think
> how many in a different language...

Miniprograma, five syllables (three in English? I think they are four,
but I am not native), and Spanish is one of those languajes that take
a lot of space (more if we have to fall back to full phrases). Now
think Miniapp... it it not Miniapp, it is Miniapplication, you are
only cheating yourself (English is small, and fond of abbrevs and
TLAs, AFLAs, it seems). What is more, IIRC "GUI with abbrevs and TLAs
are a bad thing" (R) (TM) ;P

So please consider Calum's idea, for me it is one of the best, the
rest are just rare names for the fun of it.

GSR