Re: [Usability]GNOME main menu and panel

[Jeroen Verhoeckx <jeroenverh2002 yahoo com>]

Hi Dave,

So Ximian is behind the two panel structure. They have
to think commercial, so it is strange that they choose
this structure. (I know you are not sure about ximian)

I don't say that you have to copy Windows!! But they
did something good. Right now KDE is even much further
in the development of a usable desktop that Microsoft
or Apple. So we have to look at them. (I use KDE too)

We have to think as a user, so we must make it easy to
use. But we also have to keep it proffesional. Right
now GNOME even has to little functions. The
configuration menu must get much more functions. That
makes GNOME more attractive than other desktops.

summury: GNOME must get a modern interface
(nice icons, nice theme etc.)

Greetings GNOME user Jeroen Verhoeckx (the
netherlands)
Jeroenverh2002 yahoo com

I have to work now.........




--- Dave Bordoley <bordoley msu edu> wrote:
> On Thu, 2003-01-16 at 06:43, Jeroen Verhoeckx wrote:
> > Does anyone know who is responsible for the GNOME
> main
> > menu?? Because it's terrible!! 
> 
> I think it was ximian....
> 
> > For example: screenshot as a main menu????
> strange,
> > strange. How can anyone take GNOME serious this
> way?
> > Gnome must get a new menu, probably something like
> > WindowsXP. People of KDE are also working on
> something
> > like this. (I think it will be even better that
> XP)
> > Can someone write a program like this?
> > I would like to help designing the interface...
> 
> The window xp start menu sucks pretty bad as well.
> If anything just
> using the file manager for launching applications
> might be preferable
> alternative to application menus in general, but i'm
> not totally sure.
> 
> > 
> > And does anyone know who is responsible for the
> choice
> > of having two panels as default instead of just
> one at
> > the bottum?
> 
> Once again i think ximian started the idea, but Nils
> at sun played a
> pretty large role as well. He knows quite a bit
> about usability too.
> 
> http://www242.pair.com/nilsp/nils/panel/menus.html
> 
> > Because this simply doesn't work. (Where is the
> > usabilty?????) It uses more space than needed. It
> > looks terrible when you have your window
> maximized.
> > 
> 
> It's customizable change it if you don't like it...
> (this of course is a
> bullshit answer, but hey i like the default)
> 
> > GNOME will never been taken serious and will never
> be
> > used by the mass if this doesn't change.
> > The default must be one panel at the bottum!!!
> 
> Translation:
> 
> If you don't copy windows your fucked....
> 
> > 
> > I would like to see GNOME more usable and used by
> more
> > people.
> > It's also very important for companies like Ximian
> if
> > they want to sell there software. (Companies have
> to
> > take the software serious)
> > 
> > Greetings jeroen
> 
> Of course If i had it my way we would rip off the
> mac and put the menus
> at the top of the screen, but that just isn't in the
> cards. Sorry for
> swearing so much in this email..
> 
> dave


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