Re: [Usability] Menu order

[Christian Neumair <chris gnome-de org>]

Am Montag, den 09.08.2004, 18:33 +0200 schrieb Christian Neumair:
> Am Sonntag, den 08.08.2004, 20:04 +0200 schrieb markus hammer:
> > Am Son, den 08.08.2004 um 19:33 Uhr +0200 schrieb Samuel Abels:
> > > On Fri, 2004-08-06 at 02:49, Christoffer Olsen wrote:
> > > > I usually run my Gnome in English, but today I ran it in Norwegian. All
> > > > of a sudden, I noticed that my GNOME menu was reordered - alphabetized,
> > > > that is. It is alphabetized in English too, thus Accessories is on top,
> > > > and not at the bottom, as it is now. I got confused by this until I
> > > > understood what happened, and then I got atuned to it.
> > > 
> > > Yes, I would love to see a better solution either. I am using a german
> > > menu at work and an english language menu at home and this confuses me
> > > all the time.
> > > 
> > > The only alternative solution would be a fixed order (right?), but I
> > > would still prefer that. Isn't it better to sort the list by semantics
> > > then by syntax anyway?
> > 
> > i encountered this too. its utterly unlogical, dont know if i ever filed
> > a bug report though. a good example - the german gnome menu has desktop
> > settings as second entry. 
> > it should be consistent across different locales, so i would vote for a
> > semantic list as well.
> 
> The problem is that having them not sorted alphabetically may confuse
> users who don't know that our order was intentional. Maybe we've to
> figure out what order fits our needs best. We've got to consider what
> applications most people use before deciding how we sort it. Another
> solution would be to add a gconf keys containing a list of preferred
> application menu entries that (if they exist) should be shown in that
> order before the rest is appended afterwards. Of course, the most
> intuitive order has to be the default.
> Proposed order that springs to mind:
> 
> Desktop Preferences
> Office
> Internet
> Multimedia
> Graphics
> Development
> Games
> Accessoires
> System Tools
> Other
> [Rest]
> 
> I'll look into implementing it for GNOME 2.10 :).

It was simpler than I though! The attached set of patches sets the order
according to the list above.
Note that it may break your existing folders if you modified them
because ~/.gnome2/vfolders is and will be on crack as long as we have a
new menu system.

regs,
 Chris

? modules/vfolder/test-vfolder-tmp
Index: modules/vfolder/applications-all-users.vfolder-info.in
===================================================================
RCS file: /cvs/gnome/gnome-vfs/modules/vfolder/applications-all-users.vfolder-info.in,v
retrieving revision 1.6
diff -u -r1.6 applications-all-users.vfolder-info.in
--- modules/vfolder/applications-all-users.vfolder-info.in	11 Jul 2003 16:24:41 -0000	1.6
+++ modules/vfolder/applications-all-users.vfolder-info.in	9 Aug 2004 19:12:14 -0000
@@ -43,7 +43,7 @@
 
     <!-- Accessories -->
     <Folder>
-      <Name>Accessories</Name>
+      <Name>Accessoires</Name>
       <Desktop>Accessories.directory</Desktop>
       <Query>
 	<And>
@@ -185,13 +185,13 @@
 
     <!-- Settings -->
     <Folder>
-      <Name>Preferences</Name>
+      <Name>Desktop Preferences</Name>
       <ParentLink>preferences:///</ParentLink>
     </Folder>
 
     <!-- System Tools-->
     <Folder>
-      <Name>System</Name>
+      <Name>System Tools</Name>
       <Desktop>System.directory</Desktop>
       <Query>
         <And>
Index: modules/vfolder/preferences-all-users.vfolder-info.in
===================================================================
RCS file: /cvs/gnome/gnome-vfs/modules/vfolder/preferences-all-users.vfolder-info.in,v
retrieving revision 1.2
diff -u -r1.2 preferences-all-users.vfolder-info.in
--- modules/vfolder/preferences-all-users.vfolder-info.in	30 Aug 2002 02:31:08 -0000	1.2
+++ modules/vfolder/preferences-all-users.vfolder-info.in	9 Aug 2004 19:12:14 -0000
@@ -13,7 +13,7 @@
 
   <!-- Settings -->
   <Folder>
-    <Name>Preferences</Name>
+    <Name>Desktop Preferences</Name>
     <Desktop>Settings.directory</Desktop>
     <Query>
       <And>

Index: desktop-links/Applications.directory.in
===================================================================
RCS file: /cvs/gnome/gnome-desktop/desktop-links/Applications.directory.in,v
retrieving revision 1.6
diff -u -r1.6 Applications.directory.in
--- desktop-links/Applications.directory.in	16 Feb 2004 09:56:20 -0000	1.6
+++ desktop-links/Applications.directory.in	9 Aug 2004 19:12:23 -0000
@@ -3,3 +3,4 @@
 _Comment=Applications
 Icon=gnome-applications
 Type=Directory
+SortOrder=Desktop Preferences;Office;Internet;Multimedia;Graphics;Programming;Games;Accessoires;System Tools;Other