Re: [Usability] The new file chooser
- From: markus hammer <hm sabotage at>
- To: Bastien Nocera <hadess hadess net>
- Cc: Gnome UI <usability gnome org>, Havoc Pennington <hp redhat com>
- Subject: Re: [Usability] The new file chooser
- Date: Mon, 20 Sep 2004 20:15:37 +0200
On Mon, 2004-09-20 at 18:58 +0100, Bastien Nocera wrote:
> On Mon, 2004-09-20 at 19:44 +0200, markus hammer wrote:
> > On Mon, 2004-09-20 at 12:16 -0400, Havoc Pennington wrote:
> > > On Mon, 2004-09-20 at 17:47 +0200, rkaa netcom no wrote:
> > > >
> > > > Not good enough. I have serialized filenames. I want to open the "next" file
> > > > sometimes. It is one letter or digit off from the filename of a file i
> > > > previously pasted. So I want to paste the filename and edit the one
> > > > letter/digit and then click "open". I can't do that now. Major drawback.
> > > >
> > >
> > > When you paste, the chooser would jump to what was pasted, and ctrl+L
> > > would open containing what was pasted.
> > >
> > > "next" file would normally just mean pressing down arrow due to sort
> > > order, so a typical sequence would be ctrl+o to open, ctrl+v to paste
> > > filename, down arrow, Enter.
> > >
> > > Havoc
> >
> > may i ask out of curiosity why there is no text-entry widget? is there a
> > discussion in distant times that decided this? or is it written in
> > stone.
>
> Because the entry widget is not useful for selecting files.
>
> > in fact, serialized filenames are not a uncommon thing. on the office
> > desktop. in print production, in audio production, in allmost anything
> > but ... programming. (i hope you get that hint)
>
> I don't get it.
>
> > the lack of a text entry widget makes a filechooser gently put a stone
> > in the way in that scenario.
>
> What scenario?
serial scenario number one - audio files:
01_06_03.mp3
01_06_03s.mp3
02_02_03.mp3
02_02_03s.mp3
02_03_03.mp3
04_05_03.mp3
04_05_03_statement.mp3
05_01_03.mp3
05_01_03s.mp3
06_07_03a.mp3
06_07_03a_statement.mp3
06_07_03b.mp3
06_07_03b_statement.mp3
06_07_03c.mp3
06_07_03c_statement.mp3
08_06_03.mp3
08_06_03s.mp3
09_02_03.mp3
09_03_03_alphabet.mp3
09_03_03_fire.mp3
09_03_03s.mp3
11_05_03a.mp3
11_05_03b.mp3
12_01_03-jorge_reyes-zocaloop.mp3
12_01_03-metro_indios_verdes.mp3
12_01_03s.mp3
13_04_03.mp3
13_04_03s.mp3
13_07_03.mp3
15_06_03.mp3
15_06_03s.mp3
16_02_03.mp3
16_02_03_FFR-Bombed.mp3
16_02_03s.mp3
16_03_03_1.mp3
16_03_03_2.mp3
16_03_03_3.mp3
16_03_03_4.mp3
16_03_03_5.mp3
16_03_03_6.mp3
16_03_03_stat1.mp3
16_03_03_stat2.mp3
18_05_03_01.mp3
18_05_03_02.mp3
18_05_03_03.mp3
18_05_03_04.mp3
18_05_03_05.mp3
18_05_03_06.mp3
18_05_03_07.mp3
18_05_03_08.mp3
18_05_03_09.mp3
18_05_03_10.mp3
18_05_03_11.mp3
18_05_03_12.mp3
19_01_03-anabella_solano.mp3
19_01_03s.mp3
20_04_03.mp3
20_04_03_cyrm.mp3
20_07_03.mp3
20_07_03b.mp3
22_06_03.mp3
22_06_03s.mp3
23_02_03.mp3
23_02_03s.mp3
23_03_03_abspann.mp3
23_03_03_elevatormusic.mp3
23_03_03_graz.mp3
23_03_03_graz_ansage.mp3
23_03_03_interview_di_guenther_ertl.mp3
23_03_03_statement_temmel.mp3
23_03_03s.mp3
26_01_03-das_fax_mattinger.mp3
26_01_03s.mp3
27_04_03.mp3
27_07_03_cargnelli.mp3
27_07_03_chuang.mp3
27_07_03_hansen.mp3
27_07_03_huber.mp3
27_07_03_maues.mp3
27_07_03_rechenberg.mp3
27_07_03_sodomka.mp3
27_07_03_szely.mp3
29_06_03.mp3
29_06_03s.mp3
30_03_03_oe1.mp3
30_03_03s.mp3
talking_crosswalks_BREGENZ.mp3
talking_crosswalks_HAMBURG.mp3
talking_crosswalks_KLAGENFURT.mp3
talking_crosswalks_LINZ.mp3
talking_crosswalks_SALZBURG.mp3
talking_crosswalks_STUTTGART.mp3
talking_crosswalks_WIEN.mp3
talking_crosswalks_danzig.mp3
talking_crosswalks_groznyj.mp3
talking_crosswalks_quebec.mp3
talking_crosswalks_sidney.mp3
talking_crosswalks_tokio.mp3
talking_crosswalks_toronto.mp3
talking_crosswalks_zuerich.mp3
02_11_03.mp3
02_11_03s.mp3
05_10_03.mp3
05_10_03s.mp3
07_09_03_a.mp3
07_09_03_b.mp3
07_09_03_c.mp3
07_09_03_d.mp3
07_12_03.mp3
07_12_03_Manfred.mp3
07_12_03s.mp3
09_11_03_a.mp3
09_11_03_a_intro.mp3
09_11_03_b.mp3
09_11_03_b_intro.mp3
12_10_03.mp3
12_10_03s.mp3
14_09_03_eckerman-fuchs_stueck.mp3
14_09_03_feyerabend-hummer_stueck.mp3
14_09_03_goerguen_ansage.mp3
14_09_03_goerguen_stueck.mp3
14_09_03_qin_stueck.mp3
14_09_03_salmon_stueck.mp3
14_09_03_vandalen_ansage.mp3
14_09_03_vandalen_stueck.mp3
14_12_03.mp3
14_12_03s.mp3
16_11_03s.mp3
19_10_03.mp3
19_10_03s.mp3
21_09_03.mp3
21_09_03s.mp3
21_12_03.mp3
21_12_03_1.mp3
23_11_03_a.mp3
23_11_03_b.mp3
23_11_03s.mp3
26_10_03.mp3
26_10_03s.mp3
28_09_03s.mp3
28_12_03.mp3
28_12_03s.mp3
30_11_03_hoerspiel.mp3
30_11_03_raku.mp3
30_11_03s.mp3
talking_crosswalks_berlin_FL3M.mp3
talking_crosswalks_goteborg_manoa.mp3
talking_crosswalks_hagen_aufermann.mp3
talking_crosswalks_hannover_maage.mp3
talking_crosswalks_london_genovesi.mp3
talking_crosswalks_madrid_iges.mp3
talking_crosswalks_manchester_pourtahmasbi.mp3
talking_crosswalks_nitra_fujak.mp3
talking_crosswalks_norwegen_risto.mp3
talking_crosswalks_oslo_berger.mp3
talking_crosswalks_vancouver_smith.mp3
sample two serial filenames with some random named files (two tabs)
17_01_03.jpg index.html
17_03_02.gif isol.gif
18_05_03.gif isol4.gif
19_01_02.gif isol_1.jpg
19_01_03.gif just_banner.jpg
19_05_02.gif kaufkraft.jpg
19_10_03.png kogawa_banner.gif
20_07_03.png kogawa_banner.xcf
20_10_02.jpg kogawa_banner_doku.gif
21_09_03.png kogawa_doku.gif
21_10_02.jpg literature_base.gif
21_12_03.gif literaturstudio.jpg
22_06_03.gif memoires.xcf
22_06_03_live.png merzbow.jpg
22_09_02.jpg merzbow_doc.jpg
22_12_02.gif mir-banner.jpg
23_02_03.gif newyear2001-2.html
23_03_03.gif openair_banner.gif
23_06_02.gif patpoet.gif
23_11_03.gif poetry-live.gif
23_12_01.gif poetrybox-banner.png
24_02_02.gif radiation.gif
24_03_02.jpg radiation_live.gif
24_11_02.gif radiofreelinux-live.gif
24_12_03.png radiofreelinux.gif
25_10_03.png radiotopia_banner-old.gif
26_01_03.gif radiotopia_banner.gif
26_03_03.gif radiotopia_livebanner.jpg
26_03_03_doc.gif radiotopia_livenowbanner.jpg
26_10_03.png reception.gif
27_04_03.gif remixedcities.gif
27_07_03.png replayupdate#4.gif
27_10_02.gif replayupdate4.gif
28_04_02.gif replayupdate5.gif
28_09_03.gif replayupdate6.gif
28_12_03.gif replayupdate7_8.gif
29_06_03.png resonance_cur.png
29_09_02.jpg sam_banner.jpg
29_12_02.gif schickbanner.jpg
30_03_03.gif schickdoc.jpg
30_11_03.gif schicklive.gif
31_03_02.jpg sendrec.gif
31_12_03.png shadowbanner.gif
AB2004.png social3.jpg
AB2004_live.gif social4.gif
SMlive1.gif social5.gif
arrest.jpg socialmusic-01-banner.jpg
arsenije.png socialmusic-02-banner.jpg
arsenje.jpg soundcard_1.gif
australien.gif soundcard_2.jpg
banner-artsbirthday.jpg soundcard_4.gif
banner-artsbirthday_doku.gif spacelab.jpg
banner-artsbirthdaylive.gif takalite-banner.jpg
banner-curatedby.jpg takalite-radio-banner.jpg
banner-dec10.jpg widbanner.gif
banner-dec10doku.jpg wieder3.gif
banner-dec10live.jpg year-wallpaper.jpg
banner-migone.jpg year_sm.jpg
banner-ninfa.jpg
01_02_04.gif 14_03_04.gif 29_02_04.gif
04_01_04.gif 15_02_04.gif 30_05_04.png
04_04_04.gif 18_04_04.png AB2004.gif
06_06_04.png 18_07_04.png AB2004_hang.gif
07_03_04.gif 20_06_04.png holiday04.png
08_02_04.gif 21_03_04.png holliday04.png
08_02_04_live.gif 22_02_04.gif rebanner.png
08_04_04.gif 25_01_04.gif rebanner.xcf
11_01_04.gif 25_01_04_live.gif reinventing.png
11_04_04.gif 25_04_04.png resonance.png
11_07_04.png 28_03_04.gif sczuka.png
13_06_04.png 28_03_04_live.gif
--markus
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