Re: [Usability] HIG Clarification for "Close Without Saving" button

[Alan Horkan <horkana maths tcd ie>]

On Wed, 2 Feb 2005, Kai Willadsen wrote:

> Date: Wed, 02 Feb 2005 07:49:53 +1000
> From: Kai Willadsen <kaiw itee uq edu au>
> To: Alan Horkan <horkana maths tcd ie>
> Cc: usability gnome org
> Subject: Re: [Usability] HIG Clarification for "Close Without Saving"
>     button
>
> On Tue, 2005-02-01 at 16:54 +0000, Alan Horkan wrote:
> > [removed the CC's]
> >
> > On Tue, 1 Feb 2005 danilo gnome org wrote:
> > >
> > > I'll answer on this one.  It would make sense to have "Discard",
> > > "Save", "Cancel" if the question was "There are some unsaved changes
> > > in this document.  What do you want to do with these changes?"
> > >
> > > I.e. it must be clear that "Discard" or "Save" is about _changes_,
> > > whereas "Cancel" is about the action of closing.


> > I think that Discard is much stronger language than "Close without Saving"
> > and users might be more likely to consider it something they probably dont
> > want to do.
>
> The problem with "Discard" is that as a verb in a dialog in a document-
> based application, it should apply to the document, and it doesn't.
> You're not asking whether the user wants to discard the document, just
> whether they want to discard the changes, which isn't apparent unless
> you read the whole dialog text.

Very good point.

I still think this is the least worst option.

I have been known to value consistancy more than most people though, so
there's my bias clear as crystal.  I think on the basis of a cross desktop
consistancy alone I should probably go forward and try and get my
GTK_STOCK_DISCARD added.  At least then those who want consistancy can set
it.

Besides the theory seems to be that this will get killed off in the
long run.  I'm glad Steven brought this up again because I'd really
like to get something done about it.

I honestly dont know who to ask or where to go to get this change made,
presumably I should be trying to provide a patch to one of the GTK
maintainers?

- Alan