Re: [Usability] Using Control-Esc and Windows keys to access the start menu



Lennart Borgman wrote:

Hi Steve, unfortunately nothing except Ctrl+Escape will do since that is what is used on MS Windows. Why does not that make sense?

Well, this is the worst reason ever. We're not building a Windows clone, we're building Gnome, eh. Ctrl is most commonly used for app-specific keybindings in Gnome. Breaking consistency to stick to what windows or apple or whoever does not make any sense imho.

My gut feeling (actually from before I entered here) is that personal preferences and an aversion against MS Windows is behind the lack of coherence with MS Windows here.

I don't see why there should be any coherence with Windows. If so, why not being coherent with MacOS X, or CDE, or whatever else ? We need good and rationale defaults, and sticking to what someone else just because they do so is not a good attitude.

Alt+F1 is fine by me and there is no reason to change it to Ctrl+Escape, since it will confuse our current users.

But appart from that, nothing is keeping you from defining your own keybindings as you like them ;-)
Thanks, that have been my impression all the time. However I want the default to be as easy as possible for new GNOME users coming from MS Windows. Is not that a desireable goal?

No. The defaults are to be the easiest possible for actual users of Gnome, not Windows'. And it's still up to the distros to make their own choices if they feel like it's better for their users.




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