Meeting Minutes and Log - GNOME.Asia IRC meeting 7 Sep 2010

[Pockey Lam <pockey beijinglug org>]

Dear all, 

Please find below the meeting minutes and attached the log history for today meeting and feel free to add any missing points you found. Thanks! 

Planned agenda: 

1) To host a Hackfest / GNOME 3.0 release party for GNOME.Asia 2011
2) Call for host: potential countries and time-line to send out call for host 
3) Call for sponsors: suggestions on getting enough funding to host the event

** We didn't have time to cover the following (will be covered next meeting): 
4) Start a new Mailing list and IRC channel for GNOME.Asia (not committee ones) 
5) GNOME.Asia website: building new contents
6) Discuss about the event box / kit for local users group 

Participants:

1. Pockey (from China, GNOME.Asia Committee member)
2. Emily (from China, GNOME.Asia committee member)
3. Fred (from China, GNOME.Asia Committee member)
4. Utian (from Indonesian, he is organizing Indonesia Linux conference and member of BlankOn Linux Community, Indonesia Linux Distribution) 
5. Andika (from Indonesia, coordinator of GNOME Indonesia translation team)
6. Allan - wers (from Philippines, web UX designer and contributor to GNOME's, Ubuntu's, and Firefox's UX design. Board member of the Philippine Open Source Network, coordinator of the Mozilla Philippine Team...)
7. Bharath Acharya - Abharath (from Bangalore, India, he works on Evolution, and also a member of the GNOME Travel Committee)
8. Max - Sakana (from Taiwan, he is organizing the GNOME-TW Users group, and he is an instructor)
9. Will (from USA, GNOME.Asia Committee member)
10. lakhil, (from Bangalore, India, he works on Evolution as QA, i do bug triaging in gnome bugzilla)

Meeting Minutes:  

For GNOME.Asia Hackfest 2012

We discussed about GNOME.Asia Hackfest 2012 (initiated by Brian Cameron) and thought that can be a 5 + 1 days event, 5 days of Hackfest plus 1 day of conference

Time: March 2012 (GNOME 3.0 release ~)

Objectives: To launch GNOME 3.0 and get all those top developers which is a great motivation for anyone else in Asia to come and help, talk to them. Developers can also hack on top of GNOME 3.0. And it will serve as a release party to do more PR and marketing for GNOME in Asia as well. 

Potential participants: 
Hackfest: GNOME developers and GNOME marketing people
Conference: GNOME developers / users and people interested into GTK+ technology (can be companies) 

Capacity: 5 days Hackfest (70 people) + 1 day conference (150 - 300 people)

City and Venue requirements:
On top of the checklist from: http://gnome.asia/en/p/about/checklist/ 
Hackfest rooms must have:
1) good Internet
2) inexpensive (or free)
3) accommodation not far and cheap
4) a few rooms for different sessions
5) tables and seats / sofa
6) relaxing place
7) coffee served :)

* potential venues for Hackfest: Universities, guest house, office, etc. 

Conference room (for 1 day) should be able to accommodate 150 - 300 people. 

* We will try to find a city with max. 1 hour or 2 hours driving from the international airport 

Potential countries to host GNOME.Asia Hackfest 2012: 
Philippines, Indonesia, India Hong Kong (maybe we will have others after announcing the "call for host") - those countries / cities are the potential host for the upcoming years. 

For Philippines: Allan discussed with the Philippine Open Source Network. They're willing to do the leg work and proposed to do it in Boracay (white sand ftw). However, 2011 Q1 is too soon, so they rather plan for GNOME.Asia 2012

Action Items:

1. Utian and Andika will help to look for venues in Indonesia (potential cities: Jakarta Bogor Depok Tanggerang Bekasi or Bandung). Besides, he thinks it's possible to get local companies as sponsor. They will also start to prepare proposal to host GNOME.Asia Hackfest 2012. 

2. Abharath and lakhil will help to look for venues in India (potential cities: either Bangalore or Mysore) Besides, he thinks it's possible to get local companies as sponsor. They will also start to prepare proposal to host GNOME.Asia Hackfest 2012.

3. Pockey to follow up with Hong Kong Linux User Group that can help to approach universities in HK to host the GNOME.Asia Hackfest 2012, will update the committee when they have more solid ideas. 

4. Pockey / Emily to prepare call for host of GNOME.Asia Hackfest 2012 and send out to public in the coming 2 weeks. 

5. WILL to post the log history online and send us the link. 

6. The committee is looking for a member to help to write meeting notes mainly Action Items, please let us know if you have any interest. 

7. Brian to comment / advice on the briefing of the GNOME.Asia Hackfest 2012 above in this meeting notes

8. Everybody has question regarding the preparation of " Proposal to host GNOME.Asia Hackfest 2012 " please send email to asia-summit-list <asia-summit-list gnome org> to discuss.

Regards,
Pockey


Sep 07 22:00:34 <utian>	hi emily , pockey_lam 
Sep 07 22:01:03 <emily>	hello utian
Sep 07 22:01:03 <SFD_Fred>	hi all!
Sep 07 22:01:09 <pockey_lam>	shall we start now? 
Sep 07 22:01:19 <utian>	pockey_lam, i hope it's ok i ask andika to join this meeting
Sep 07 22:01:36 <pockey_lam>	utian, please do 
Sep 07 22:01:45 <utian>	he is coordinator of gnome indonesia translation team
Sep 07 22:01:50 <pockey_lam>	utian, sure! 
Sep 07 22:01:54 <utian>	pockey_lam, thanks
Sep 07 22:02:08 <andika>	hi all, thanks for allowing me attend this meeting
Sep 07 22:02:16 <pockey_lam>	andika, hi 
Sep 07 22:02:18 <emily>	welcome andika
Sep 07 22:02:31 <pockey_lam>	how about we start with introducing each others a bit , everybody a few sentences of self introduction ? 
Sep 07 22:03:16 <utian>	ok pockey_lam 
Sep 07 22:03:43 <utian>	start from me?
Sep 07 22:03:47 <pockey_lam>	I am Pockey Lam, live in China, helping GNOME.Asia to organize event, marketing and promotion
Sep 07 22:03:54 <pockey_lam>	everybody can say at the same time :)
Sep 07 22:04:33 <pockey_lam>	utian, please do 
Sep 07 22:04:54 *	andika is current GNOME Indonesian translation team; Debian user since ~1999
Sep 07 22:04:55 <emily>	Emily Chen, Start GNOME.Asia summit with Pockey and Fred in 2008, now is the GNOME foundation board member, work in Oracle China, Beijing office 
Sep 07 22:05:05 *	wers (~allan 112 203 106 214) has joined #asia-summit
Sep 07 22:05:21 <pockey_lam>	wers, hey 
Sep 07 22:05:27 <wers>	pockey_lam, hello :)
Sep 07 22:05:32 <utian>	I am Utian, Indonesia, right now in the middle of organizing Indonesia Linux Conference and join BlankOn Linux Community, Indonesia Linux Distribution
Sep 07 22:05:33 <andika>	s/team/team coordinator/
Sep 07 22:05:34 <SFD_Fred>	wers: hey! you're here!
Sep 07 22:05:38 <pockey_lam>	wers, we are starting the meeting, by everybody a short self - introduction
Sep 07 22:06:04 <wers>	cool. does this have a publicly accessible log?
Sep 07 22:06:25 <pockey_lam>	wers, no no, but i will send the log to the list 
Sep 07 22:06:37 <wers>	pockey_lam, thanks :)
Sep 07 22:06:45 *	andika is now known as andika_slow
Sep 07 22:06:46 <pockey_lam>	wers, please introduce yourself
Sep 07 22:06:48 *	SFD_Fred is GNOME.Asia committee member, SFI President, RUR-PLE maintainer, French living in South China and into FOSS in Education and busing preparing SFD at the moment
Sep 07 22:07:08 *	andika (~andika 182 0 95 74) has joined #asia-summit
Sep 07 22:07:20 *	SFD_Fred is also busy eating a prune tart he just finished cooking :P
Sep 07 22:07:49 <utian>	SFD_Fred :D
Sep 07 22:08:15 <pockey_lam>	wers, your turn 
Sep 07 22:08:27 <SFD_Fred>	wers: you're supposed to introduce yourself (I think you missed that part of the chat)
Sep 07 22:08:32 <SFD_Fred>	wers: we've just started
Sep 07 22:08:37 <wers>	I work as a web UX designer. I contribute to GNOME's, Ubuntu's, and Firefox's UX design. I also do advocacy 
Sep 07 22:08:47 <pockey_lam>	great
Sep 07 22:09:03 <pockey_lam>	wers is from Philippines :)
Sep 07 22:09:05 <wers>	I'm a board member of the Philippine Open Source Network, coordinator of the Mozilla Philippine Team, etc
Sep 07 22:09:19 <emily>	btw, will told that he will be late for the meeting. He is on the way to office
Sep 07 22:09:37 <pockey_lam>	emily, ok, so we start first?
Sep 07 22:10:12 <pockey_lam>	Max from taiwan will join us later too
Sep 07 22:10:38 <wers>	I miss you guys. had a great time in Taiwan. hehe :)
Sep 07 22:10:48 <pockey_lam>	and supposed Akhil and abharath from India should join us
Sep 07 22:10:56 <emily>	sure, please start 
Sep 07 22:10:59 <pockey_lam>	wers, same here, we miss you too :) it was fun 
Sep 07 22:11:03 <pockey_lam>	emily, ok
Sep 07 22:11:09 <pockey_lam>	we can start and wait for them at the same time
Sep 07 22:11:09 <SFD_Fred>	pockey_lam: do we miss him?
Sep 07 22:11:16 <pockey_lam>	we do :)
Sep 07 22:11:22 <SFD_Fred>	wers: ;-)
Sep 07 22:11:29 <wers>	haha
Sep 07 22:11:33 <pockey_lam>	first agenda : To host a hackfest / GNOME 3.0 release party for GNOME.Asia 2011
Sep 07 22:11:34 <wers>	where's yippi?
Sep 07 22:11:50 <pockey_lam>	wers, yippi / brian is not here...
Sep 07 22:11:56 <pockey_lam>	but i m writing meeting notes... 
Sep 07 22:12:06 <pockey_lam>	i will send notes out to brian and all of you 
Sep 07 22:12:14 <SFD_Fred>	the schedule is quite intense as we should be ready around March
Sep 07 22:12:30 <pockey_lam>	hackfest is Brian's idea
Sep 07 22:12:53 <emily>	the hackfest's focus is on marketing 
Sep 07 22:13:01 *	wers has quit (Remote closed the connection)
Sep 07 22:13:10 <pockey_lam>	GNOME 3.0 will be released in March 2011, so we want to gather GNOME hackers to make a hack fest somewhere in Asia to hack on GNOME 3.0 
Sep 07 22:13:19 <SFD_Fred>	the idea is to get top GNOME developers in Asia and boost a potential GNOME community in the region by doing so
Sep 07 22:13:25 <pockey_lam>	and it will be the main theme for GNOME.Asia 2011
Sep 07 22:13:33 <SFD_Fred>	it spreads over 5 days
Sep 07 22:13:42 *	abharath (~abharath 59 96 59 29) has joined #asia-summit
Sep 07 22:13:48 <SFD_Fred>	needs good internet connection (uncensored - so that keeps China out)
Sep 07 22:13:51 <pockey_lam>	abharath, hi
Sep 07 22:14:03 <abharath>	Sorry I just got held up
Sep 07 22:14:13 <pockey_lam>	abharath, please shortly introduce yourself 
Sep 07 22:14:26 <pockey_lam>	abharath, and we just started, we are talking about the hack fest idea (i mentioned to you before)
Sep 07 22:14:52 *	wers (~allan 112 203 106 214) has joined #asia-summit
Sep 07 22:14:56 <abharath>	Hello All, I am Bharath Acharya. I work on Evolution, and also a member of the GNOME Travel Committee
Sep 07 22:15:06 <abharath>	and I stay in Bangalore, India
Sep 07 22:15:30 <wers>	sorry got dc. GNOME Shell just froze on me. hehe. Gotta use stable software in a time like this
Sep 07 22:15:33 <wers>	hi abharath :)
Sep 07 22:15:48 <pockey_lam>	so the hack fest is a 5 days event
Sep 07 22:15:50 <abharath>	pockey_lam: sure :) I'll read the logs later
Sep 07 22:15:57 <abharath>	wers: hello
Sep 07 22:16:04 <pockey_lam>	the idea is to get top GNOME developers in Asia and boost a potential GNOME community in the region by doing so
Sep 07 22:16:07 <emily>	abharath: hey 
Sep 07 22:16:39 <pockey_lam>	we can get companies like red hat, canonical, novell to committee to a number of developers to send to the hackfest
Sep 07 22:16:40 <wers>	the hackfest s a great way to make people involved especially at this stage
Sep 07 22:16:47 <SFD_Fred>	it should be easier to get sponsors and get all the GNOME contributing companies to send their developers
Sep 07 22:17:14 <pockey_lam>	since we are thinking of which city should it be, that's why we invited all of you to join us to give us insights
Sep 07 22:17:25 <utian>	march 2011 is gonna be first hack fest ever?
Sep 07 22:17:36 <pockey_lam>	utian, yeah, in asia 
Sep 07 22:17:43 <wers>	utian, for GNOME.Asia, at least
Sep 07 22:17:45 <pockey_lam>	utian, that's really grant
Sep 07 22:17:51 <pockey_lam>	for GNOME :)
Sep 07 22:17:54 <emily>	first question, will the hackfest = GNOME.Asia 2011 ? 
Sep 07 22:18:01 <pockey_lam>	emily, yes :)
Sep 07 22:18:04 <pockey_lam>	emily, should be 
Sep 07 22:18:15 <utian>	emily, yeah thats also my question
Sep 07 22:18:29 <emily>	If we want to joint meeting with FOSS.in, then could be FOSS.In 2012 ? 
Sep 07 22:18:33 <pockey_lam>	emily, that's a great opportunity to bring GNOME.Asia to the next level
Sep 07 22:18:37 <pockey_lam>	we should take this opportunity
Sep 07 22:18:44 <emily>	i agree 
Sep 07 22:18:47 <abharath>	emily: Foss.in is Dec 15 this year
Sep 07 22:19:01 <pockey_lam>	emily, so if we make the hackfest, that should be GNOME.Asia
Sep 07 22:19:01 <wers>	let's just avoid turning this into a duplicate of GUADEC, because GNOME.Asia has its own goals
Sep 07 22:19:08 <pockey_lam>	wers, yeah
Sep 07 22:19:15 <SFD_Fred>	emily: could be 1 or 2 extra days after those 5 days
Sep 07 22:19:17 <wers>	if we're inviting the same core contributors, we might end up with a guadec
Sep 07 22:19:22 <SFD_Fred>	something for the public
Sep 07 22:19:35 <pockey_lam>	yeah, we need developers from Asia
Sep 07 22:19:46 <wers>	pockey_lam, that's right
Sep 07 22:19:47 <pockey_lam>	more developers from Asia
Sep 07 22:19:50 <emily>	So a hackfest for 5 days and pre/post 2 days events ? 
Sep 07 22:19:52 <abharath>	Is there a GNOME 3 schedule already? the hard code freeze etc
Sep 07 22:20:08 <wers>	that's what makes this one unique. involving contributors in asia to shape the future of GNOME 3
Sep 07 22:20:22 <wers>	it's scheduled for March, atm
Sep 07 22:20:44 <SFD_Fred>	abharath: well yes Brian metioned it should be in March
Sep 07 22:21:02 <abharath>	right so what;s the main objective for this hackfest? 
Sep 07 22:21:03 <abharath>	1) Celebrate the release of GNOME 3
Sep 07 22:21:08 <pockey_lam>	so we can plan for March... at this moment
Sep 07 22:21:14 <SFD_Fred>	but could be delayed by 1-2 weeks maybe...
Sep 07 22:21:29 <abharath>	2) Give people a platform to contribute on core issues just before hard freeze and then celebrate it?
Sep 07 22:21:30 <SFD_Fred>	abharath: no, launch GNOME 3
Sep 07 22:21:38 <abharath>	cool thanks :)
Sep 07 22:21:57 <SFD_Fred>	it's the week before the launch.. where dev work to finish everything
Sep 07 22:22:09 <SFD_Fred>	or the week of the launch.. depends how you look at it
Sep 07 22:22:20 <wers>	nice. GNOME.Asia will be the biggest GNOME 3.0 release party. haha
Sep 07 22:22:28 <emily>	abharath: also could be a marketing hackfest to celebrate GNOME 3.0 
Sep 07 22:22:31 <SFD_Fred>	so you get all those top developers which is a great motivation for anyone else in Asia to come and help, talk to them
Sep 07 22:22:38 <abharath>	SFD_Fred: right. Makes sense to invite more people to try out GNOME3 then
Sep 07 22:22:47 <abharath>	emily: exactly :) that makes great sense
Sep 07 22:23:21 <SFD_Fred>	abharath: and then you probably schedule another day as a conference to explain stuff to normal people or wannabe GTK developers and companies
Sep 07 22:23:24 <emily>	<SFD_Fred>: There might more marketing people than developers for this hackfest, since dev's work should done before the release 
Sep 07 22:23:30 <andika>	will it be useful since we will be in code freeze?
Sep 07 22:23:41 <SFD_Fred>	useful?
Sep 07 22:23:44 <andika>	I mean, what can we hack away?
Sep 07 22:23:54 <andika>	something for Gnome 3.1?
Sep 07 22:24:00 <wers>	it's going to be on top of gnome 3.0
Sep 07 22:24:03 <emily>	marketing hackfest andika
Sep 07 22:24:19 <abharath>	SFD_Fred: I think that would be the most important thing from this hackfest, spread the word and strike it big. Help new users try it out on the spot
Sep 07 22:24:25 <SFD_Fred>	andika: before any big release there seem to be the hackfest.. the question is do we want to have it in Asia or not
Sep 07 22:24:31 <SFD_Fred>	andika: else it will happen elsewhere
Sep 07 22:24:33 <emily>	like the website for GNOME 3.0, twitter, blog, screenshot, photos, documents etc. 
Sep 07 22:24:35 <andika>	emily: I'm not sure I understand 'marketing hackfest'
Sep 07 22:25:02 <SFD_Fred>	andika: even with code freeze you have a lot of technical work to do
Sep 07 22:25:07 <wers>	see http://live.gnome.org/GnomeMarketing/MarketingHackfest2009
Sep 07 22:25:27 <SFD_Fred>	andika: but i am sure brian could give more details as to what he envisioned 
Sep 07 22:25:31 *	utian open wers's link
Sep 07 22:26:12 <andika>	ok
Sep 07 22:26:18 <andika>	done reading
Sep 07 22:26:23 <SFD_Fred>	GNOME will manage the agenda. we get top developers sent by top FOSS companies for 5 days, then we market that and piggy back on it to have 1 or 2 extra days or 'normal conference'
Sep 07 22:26:36 <andika>	but still can't imagine clearly enough
Sep 07 22:27:48 <wers>	SFD_Fred, you mean 5 days of hackfest+2 days of 'normal conference' in one event?
Sep 07 22:28:00 <SFD_Fred>	wers: yes.. or 5+1
Sep 07 22:28:01 <andika>	maybe term usage is not same here in Indonesia. we usually use installfest instead
Sep 07 22:28:10 <andika>	or maybe installfest is subset of hackfest?
Sep 07 22:28:22 <SFD_Fred>	andika: it's not an installfest
Sep 07 22:28:25 <emily>	installfest is subset of hackfest: good idea 
Sep 07 22:28:39 <emily>	party  -- a better words 
Sep 07 22:28:48 <abharath>	;)
Sep 07 22:28:50 <SFD_Fred>	andika: it's some kind of internal work that GNOME developers (and most likely marketing people) need to do before/during the release
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Sep 07 22:28:54 <pockey_lam>	i think there can be two approach
Sep 07 22:29:00 <pockey_lam>	1) technical hackfest as fred said 
Sep 07 22:29:07 <pockey_lam>	2) marketing hackfest as emily said
Sep 07 22:29:17 <wers>	both can be done
Sep 07 22:29:18 <pockey_lam>	+ 1 day of conference
Sep 07 22:29:21 <SFD_Fred>	well that's how I understood Brian's intentions (1)
Sep 07 22:29:23 <pockey_lam>	yeah, both can be done 
Sep 07 22:29:33 <pockey_lam>	we can have both accommdated
Sep 07 22:29:36 <utian>	so this asia hackfest "must" on march 2011?
Sep 07 22:29:40 <wers>	I think, Brian intended it to be a technical hackfest
Sep 07 22:29:45 <pockey_lam>	wers, i think so as well
Sep 07 22:29:48 <abharath>	SFD_Fred: right. The only question on everyone's mind, what'll developers do when its hard code freeze for GNOME3 release. They can be invited just to market their stuff and help people get to know the product better
Sep 07 22:29:59 <pockey_lam>	but we can also do a bit of marketing, why not :)
Sep 07 22:30:06 <SFD_Fred>	but since you get some core GNOME people all together in one place we should 'use them' for a public performance such as a conference, discussion etc 
Sep 07 22:30:10 <wers>	abharath, work on top of GNOME 3.0. new apps and stuff
Sep 07 22:30:17 <wers>	but not touch the frozen code
Sep 07 22:30:19 <abharath>	so how do we really rope in a lot of developers for this event
Sep 07 22:30:20 <pockey_lam>	i agreed
Sep 07 22:30:43 <SFD_Fred>	abharath: it's none of my concern.. GNOME tells me we need a place for 5 days to do some work. can you arrange?
Sep 07 22:30:50 <SFD_Fred>	abharath: I say YES or NO
Sep 07 22:30:51 <pockey_lam>	abharath, the GNOME foundation and gnome.asia committee will help to get developers
Sep 07 22:31:07 <SFD_Fred>	utian: and yes it is for March... the scheduled release date of GNOME 3.0
Sep 07 22:31:23 <pockey_lam>	yes, let's talk about the venue
Sep 07 22:31:27 <abharath>	SFD_Fred: no problem :) I am just trying to set the requirements right for everyone
Sep 07 22:31:27 <pockey_lam>	as brian asked where can we host
Sep 07 22:31:39 <andika>	'need a place for 5 days', for how many people?
Sep 07 22:31:51 <abharath>	right the number of people
Sep 07 22:31:59 <pockey_lam>	70 people
Sep 07 22:32:06 <pockey_lam>	we target around 70 people
Sep 07 22:32:10 <andika>	and what kind of infrastructure will be needed?
Sep 07 22:32:16 <pockey_lam>	1) Internet
Sep 07 22:32:25 <pockey_lam>	2) a place with desk and seats
Sep 07 22:32:25 <SFD_Fred>	University should be the easiest...
Sep 07 22:32:29 <SFD_Fred>	cheapest as well
Sep 07 22:32:32 <pockey_lam>	3) coffee served 
Sep 07 22:32:39 <pockey_lam>	hehe
Sep 07 22:32:45 <pockey_lam>	a nice place that is relaxing
Sep 07 22:32:54 <pockey_lam>	accommodation not far and rather cheap
Sep 07 22:33:14 <pockey_lam>	yep, cheap venue
Sep 07 22:33:15 <utian>	pockey_lam, this 70 people are technical hacker are they?
Sep 07 22:33:17 <pockey_lam>	as well
Sep 07 22:33:26 <pockey_lam>	utian, yes, mainly technical hackers
Sep 07 22:33:36 <pockey_lam>	utian, with some marketing people as well (like myself ) 
Sep 07 22:33:37 <pockey_lam>	:)
Sep 07 22:33:42 <utian>	pockey_lam, i see
Sep 07 22:33:47 <utian>	:)
Sep 07 22:33:49 <emily>	I was thinking about some company might host this hackfest, like Google's office or Oracle's offcie. (But, I only know the contact in China, however, we can not host inside China becasue of firewall )
Sep 07 22:34:05 <andika>	how many rooms and how big? there will be parallel sessions I believe
Sep 07 22:34:20 <wers>	andika, BiNus? UI? :)
Sep 07 22:34:38 <abharath>	emily: I would like some university :) Easier to encourage more students to join
Sep 07 22:34:51 <andika>	wers: could be :), but need to gather reqs first before asking my contacts there
Sep 07 22:35:09 <SFD_Fred>	university is probably the most flexible about the configuration
Sep 07 22:35:09 <pockey_lam>	andika, from 1 big room, up to 7 rooms , quite flexible
Sep 07 22:35:58 <pockey_lam>	but better more than 1 room
Sep 07 22:36:03 <wers>	1 big room for the hackfest, I suppose. we'll think about parallel sessions if we're going to pursue the 'typical conference' type of thing
Sep 07 22:36:03 <pockey_lam>	a few rooms would be great 
Sep 07 22:36:10 *	will-mobile (~yaaic 166 190 13 39) has joined #asia-summit
Sep 07 22:36:45 <utian>	how about the "normal conference", how many people are hoping to attend?
Sep 07 22:37:05 <wers>	I think, 200-300
Sep 07 22:37:06 <SFD_Fred>	utian: the local team should know better
Sep 07 22:37:16 <pockey_lam>	i think the same, around 200
Sep 07 22:37:20 <SFD_Fred>	wers: yes.. 150-300 is ok
Sep 07 22:37:22 <pockey_lam>	but yes, the local team should know better
Sep 07 22:37:23 <utian>	wers, SFD_Fred ok
Sep 07 22:37:38 <will-mobile>	morning / evening all. my apologies on being late. i am on my phone during commute so responses can be slow
Sep 07 22:37:42 <wers>	but yeah, it mostly depends on the local attendees 
Sep 07 22:37:47 <SFD_Fred>	utian: it really depends on the location, the marketing planned ahead of time to promote the conference
Sep 07 22:37:47 <emily>	hi will-mobile
Sep 07 22:38:03 <SFD_Fred>	hi will-mobile 
Sep 07 22:38:16 <wers>	hi will-mobile :)
Sep 07 22:38:24 <pockey_lam>	utian, if we can only find a venue for 100 people, we can also consider
Sep 07 22:38:41 <pockey_lam>	utian, we just either invite less people or have them standing or sitting on the floor
Sep 07 22:38:42 <SFD_Fred>	i don't mind sitting on the floor.. :)
Sep 07 22:38:45 <pockey_lam>	exactly
Sep 07 22:38:47 <pockey_lam>	me neither
Sep 07 22:38:48 <emily>	March is quite close, we need to confirm the venue and ask for the budget plan from travel committee and GNOME foundation 
Sep 07 22:39:08 <SFD_Fred>	so we need to know who is interested and willing to work on this
Sep 07 22:39:17 <SFD_Fred>	the schedule is tight. it's quite some commitment
Sep 07 22:39:21 <pockey_lam>	so our potential hosting places for this 5 days hackfest + 1 day conference are
Sep 07 22:39:22 <abharath>	Sitting and hacking :) I love it :)
Sep 07 22:39:33 <SFD_Fred>	one need to look for "the perfect place" and then prepare
Sep 07 22:39:37 <emily>	hehe :) abharath
Sep 07 22:39:45 <SFD_Fred>	and coffeeing
Sep 07 22:39:50 <pockey_lam>	phillipines, india, indonesia, hong kong
Sep 07 22:39:57 <SFD_Fred>	i might make a prune tart if people ask nicely ;)
Sep 07 22:40:01 <emily>	four candidate places, cool 
Sep 07 22:40:53 <pockey_lam>	but wers from Philippines told me they would rather host gnome.asia 2011 :)
Sep 07 22:40:56 <wers>	I was discussing this with the Philippine Open Source Network. They're willing to do the leg work and proposed to do it in Boracay (white sand ftw). However, 2011 Q1 is too soon
Sep 07 22:41:09 <wers>	pockey_lam, 2012 :D
Sep 07 22:41:11 <pockey_lam>	wers, yeah, so you will do the 2012 
Sep 07 22:41:12 <pockey_lam>	yeah
Sep 07 22:41:13 <pockey_lam>	sorry
Sep 07 22:41:15 <abharath>	pockey_lam: 2010 you mean?
Sep 07 22:41:21 <abharath>	eeks 2012 :)
Sep 07 22:41:22 <utian>	question again, to make me clear, so this hackfest is the next form of Gnome.Asia? or it different event between hackfest and gnome.asia?
Sep 07 22:41:44 <wers>	utian, GNOME.Asia 2011 is going to be a hackfest
Sep 07 22:41:44 <pockey_lam>	utian, same event
Sep 07 22:41:53 <emily>	one year one event 
Sep 07 22:41:56 <wers>	that's going to be *the* GNOME.Asia event of the year
Sep 07 22:41:57 <SFD_Fred>	utian: different.. you'll get 2 in 1 actually
Sep 07 22:42:05 <SFD_Fred>	hackfest+GNOME.Asia
Sep 07 22:42:17 <SFD_Fred>	5+1
Sep 07 22:42:40 <emily>	souds good, Fred 
Sep 07 22:42:47 <utian>	all, i see
Sep 07 22:43:25 <pockey_lam>	so up till now, do we have enough information to try to find a venue? :)
Sep 07 22:43:32 <wers>	my concern with that is it would be difficult to attend for people who weren't sponsored by their employers. I'm not sure if my employer will let me leave work for a week since this isn't work-related
Sep 07 22:43:37 <SFD_Fred>	solves the sponsoring and speaker issues as well
Sep 07 22:43:38 <emily>	our task after this IRC meeting is finding and confirm venue asap 
Sep 07 22:44:00 <SFD_Fred>	wers: there will be gnome travel subsidies as usual
Sep 07 22:44:03 <abharath>	pockey_lam: so the checklist for the venue would be the same one as that of the bidding page?
Sep 07 22:44:08 <SFD_Fred>	wers: and based on the funds we can raise
Sep 07 22:44:30 <pockey_lam>	abharath, yeah, plus the things we just said: 
Sep 07 22:44:38 <pockey_lam>	1) Internet
Sep 07 22:44:38 <pockey_lam>	2) Accommondation not far and cheap
Sep 07 22:44:38 <pockey_lam>	3) a few rooms 
Sep 07 22:44:38 <pockey_lam>	4) coffee served
Sep 07 22:44:38 <pockey_lam>	5) relaxing
Sep 07 22:44:48 <pockey_lam>	6) seats and desks
Sep 07 22:44:50 <pockey_lam>	or tables
Sep 07 22:45:20 <abharath>	for all the others who aren;t aware of the checklist, http://gnome.asia/en/p/about/checklist/
Sep 07 22:45:34 <pockey_lam>	abharath, thanks!
Sep 07 22:45:44 <abharath>	most of them apply, not the conference specific ones
Sep 07 22:45:58 <pockey_lam>	abharath, yeah
Sep 07 22:46:12 <pockey_lam>	abharath, but since hackfest also, so we need the 6 points just mentioned as well
Sep 07 22:46:36 <abharath>	pockey_lam: right. In addition to the ones that you mentioned
Sep 07 22:46:43 <pockey_lam>	abharath, yep
Sep 07 22:47:20 <pockey_lam>	so, now we have abharath utian pockey_lam helping to look for venues for 2012 gnome.asia hackfest ? 
Sep 07 22:47:30 <emily>	2011 
Sep 07 22:47:37 <abharath>	emily: ;)
Sep 07 22:47:38 <pockey_lam>	i m responsible to talk to universities in Hong Kong
Sep 07 22:47:49 <pockey_lam>	abharath, can you help to talk to those in india? 
Sep 07 22:47:58 <pockey_lam>	utian, can you help to talk to those in indonesia?
Sep 07 22:47:59 <abharath>	I'll do my bit with universities in India
Sep 07 22:47:59 <SFD_Fred>	utian: where are you based?
Sep 07 22:48:02 <abharath>	pockey_lam: yes :)
Sep 07 22:48:11 <pockey_lam>	abharath, thanks! 
Sep 07 22:48:13 <SFD_Fred>	utian: which city
Sep 07 22:48:13 <utian>	pockey_lam, i can
Sep 07 22:48:21 <utian>	SFD_Fred, indonesia, bogor
Sep 07 22:48:26 <utian>	it near jakarta
Sep 07 22:48:33 <abharath>	I never actually thought of universities before this meet. I'll talk to some of my Deans this weekend
Sep 07 22:48:44 <emily>	diki is in indonesia, do you know him? utian ? 
Sep 07 22:48:51 <pockey_lam>	for gnome.asia it's great that we have so many contacts now, so one year one city, that would be great, great to have wers utian abharath joined our committee
Sep 07 22:49:09 <utian>	emily, which diki?
Sep 07 22:49:11 <utian>	:)
Sep 07 22:49:16 <SFD_Fred>	utian: Indonesia I remembered.. just didn't know where exactly
Sep 07 22:49:28 <emily>	artist for the logo of GNOME.Asia 
Sep 07 22:49:36 <utian>	SFD_Fred, okay i'll find out
Sep 07 22:49:39 <emily>	diki design the logo and T-shirt for GNOME 
Sep 07 22:49:51 <SFD_Fred>	utian: now i have a better idea.. thanks
Sep 07 22:49:51 <andika>	emily: diki stays in Bandung
Sep 07 22:49:53 <andika>	like me
Sep 07 22:49:59 <pockey_lam>	utian, so which city will you most likely think the GNOME.Asia will host if it is in Indonesia?
Sep 07 22:50:09 <pockey_lam>	utian, or potential cities?
Sep 07 22:50:23 <pockey_lam>	andika, so which city will you most likely think the GNOME.Asia will host if it is in India?
Sep 07 22:50:30 <andika>	pockey_lam: I think it can be Jakarta, Bogor, or Bandung
Sep 07 22:50:36 <utian>	pockey_lam, i think it's around jabodetabek (Jakarta Bogor Depok Tanggerang Bekasi)
Sep 07 22:50:41 <pockey_lam>	andika, thanks!
Sep 07 22:50:43 <utian>	or Bandung
Sep 07 22:50:45 <wers>	utian, is there an airport in bogor? I believe, international flights have to land on jakarta then travel by land, correct?
Sep 07 22:51:01 <abharath>	In India, either Bangalore or Mysore
Sep 07 22:51:14 <SFD_Fred>	wers: Boracay has an international airport?
Sep 07 22:51:15 <andika>	wers: yes
Sep 07 22:51:17 <pockey_lam>	utian, thanks
Sep 07 22:51:18 <abharath>	others might be difficult, but I'll try some others
Sep 07 22:51:19 <utian>	wers, jakarta airport to bogor aproximately about 2 hours
Sep 07 22:51:19 <wers>	SFD_Fred, it does
Sep 07 22:51:27 <andika>	wers: Jakarta - Bogor is only around 1 hr
Sep 07 22:51:44 <utian>	2 hours if you get traffic jam :D
Sep 07 22:51:47 <pockey_lam>	abharath, tanks
Sep 07 22:51:51 <andika>	yeah right :D
Sep 07 22:51:52 <SFD_Fred>	wers: didn t know.. i thought you had to transit through Manila then boat, bus, tricycle and buffalo 
Sep 07 22:52:13 <wers>	SFD_Fred, boracay is seas away from Manila. ahehe
Sep 07 22:52:20 <andika>	Jakarta - Bandung is ideally 2 hrs, 3-4 hrs if includes traffic jam
Sep 07 22:52:23 <abharath>	after this meet, can someone compile a list? A list of things needed from the venue, the target audience, the coll stuff we gonna do, etc
Sep 07 22:52:31 <pockey_lam>	can we try to find a city with international airport? :)
Sep 07 22:52:46 <SFD_Fred>	1 or 2 hours drive is ok i think
Sep 07 22:52:57 <wers>	SFD_Fred, if you know what to ride
Sep 07 22:53:01 <pockey_lam>	no problem
Sep 07 22:53:03 <SFD_Fred>	it's really standard from most International airport to any capital actually
Sep 07 22:53:05 <abharath>	lol
Sep 07 22:53:14 <pockey_lam>	ok ok, 1 - 2 hrs are acceptable :)
Sep 07 22:53:42 <emily>	one question if we host in univeristy 
Sep 07 22:53:43 <andika>	pockey_lam: Bandung has international airport, but only for not so big planes
Sep 07 22:53:44 <pockey_lam>	so any point / question to ask?
Sep 07 22:53:47 <pockey_lam>	for the venue? 
Sep 07 22:53:58 <emily>	Can we book some many rooms in univeristy for 5 days +1 days ? 
Sep 07 22:54:08 <pockey_lam>	emily, that's why we need to check
Sep 07 22:54:12 <pockey_lam>	emily, we have three chances....
Sep 07 22:54:14 <emily>	OK
Sep 07 22:54:16 <pockey_lam>	emily, three places ;)
Sep 07 22:54:19 <SFD_Fred>	yes during school year it could be a challenge
Sep 07 22:54:22 <pockey_lam>	countries
Sep 07 22:54:31 <pockey_lam>	not necessary universities
Sep 07 22:54:33 <pockey_lam>	we can consider other places
Sep 07 22:54:40 <pockey_lam>	even a motel 
Sep 07 22:54:44 <pockey_lam>	hahaha
Sep 07 22:54:49 <abharath>	:D
Sep 07 22:54:57 <emily>	if not expensive, we can host in hotel 
Sep 07 22:55:03 <SFD_Fred>	with a swimming pool then...
Sep 07 22:55:11 <SFD_Fred>	a guest house
Sep 07 22:55:11 <pockey_lam>	yeah
Sep 07 22:55:18 <wers>	Mmmmm
Sep 07 22:55:35 <abharath>	aah nice suggestions :)
Sep 07 22:55:41 <SFD_Fred>	well whatever place clean enough, with internet and the capacity required
Sep 07 22:55:53 <SFD_Fred>	eventually we can move to a bigger place for the last day
Sep 07 22:55:53 <pockey_lam>	yep
Sep 07 22:55:53 <emily>	check with univeristy first, then companies, then motel/ hotel 
Sep 07 22:55:55 <wers>	SFD_Fred's house
Sep 07 22:56:01 <pockey_lam>	yep
Sep 07 22:56:02 <abharath>	SFD_Fred: +1
Sep 07 22:56:11 <SFD_Fred>	wers: internet just sucks.. else i would happily do it
Sep 07 22:56:23 <utian>	my first target is universities that located in Jakarta, Depok or Bogor, because its feasible place include the distance from airport
Sep 07 22:56:25 <wers>	aww. he found an excuse. haha
Sep 07 22:56:28 <SFD_Fred>	next to the sea, you can go fish your lunch
Sep 07 22:56:39 <pockey_lam>	love the sea
Sep 07 22:56:42 <wers>	utian, Mal Ambasador :D 
Sep 07 22:56:59 <pockey_lam>	2) sponsors
Sep 07 22:57:03 <utian>	wers, it could be, but mal is not university :D
Sep 07 22:57:12 <wers>	utian, just kidding ;)
Sep 07 22:57:14 <abharath>	and with universities, the security issues need to be handled too
Sep 07 22:57:18 <andika>	wers: whoa, what do you want to buy there? ;)
Sep 07 22:57:21 <abharath>	for the last day atleast
Sep 07 22:57:35 <pockey_lam>	any chance to get local sponsors as well in india or indonesia?
Sep 07 22:57:41 <wers>	andika, a lot. :) 
Sep 07 22:57:43 <pockey_lam>	or Hong kong (i ask my self :)
Sep 07 22:57:45 <emily>	novell indian 
Sep 07 22:57:49 <pockey_lam>	hehe
Sep 07 22:58:07 <abharath>	emily: In India, I doubt them :D
Sep 07 22:58:08 <SFD_Fred>	security?
Sep 07 22:58:13 <abharath>	but I should ask :)
Sep 07 22:58:30 <emily>	Novell can send you guys 
Sep 07 22:58:57 <pockey_lam>	but we need to have money to rent the venue :)
Sep 07 22:58:59 <abharath>	SFD_Fred: at the entrance I meant. Validating the registrations
Sep 07 22:59:01 <pockey_lam>	and pay for coffee, hehe
Sep 07 22:59:20 <SFD_Fred>	abharath: ahh... you scared me. i though there were some  terrorist or ... 
Sep 07 22:59:45 <abharath>	SFD_Fred: haha :) nope :) Just a myth :)
Sep 07 22:59:46 <pockey_lam>	so we also need to consider, if we host the gnome.asia hackfest , can we find some local sponsors to cover the cost
Sep 07 23:00:04 <utian>	pockey_lam, its difficult to get sponsor from international IT companies here, because especially me dont have contact name of them
Sep 07 23:00:18 <abharath>	I am sure SFD_Fred ould be shit scared every day now :P
Sep 07 23:00:27 <SFD_Fred>	utian: local ones?
Sep 07 23:00:41 <SFD_Fred>	abharath: maybe wild girls looking for geeks?
Sep 07 23:00:48 <utian>	but for local sponsors such as internet access its very possible
Sep 07 23:00:52 <SFD_Fred>	abharath: so many possible dangers...
Sep 07 23:01:02 <abharath>	SFD_Fred: well I am here, so all the good ones are taken :P
Sep 07 23:01:15 <SFD_Fred>	abharath: haha.. ok
Sep 07 23:01:20 *	sakana (~sakana 221-120-10-186 dynamic hinet net) has joined #asia-summit
Sep 07 23:01:22 <pockey_lam>	utian, noted, depends on the budget, i think the committee can help to get international sponsors, but most likely the budget will be like 5K USD 
Sep 07 23:01:23 <SFD_Fred>	abharath: so I'm safe you mean?
Sep 07 23:01:31 <emily>	hi max 
Sep 07 23:01:33 <pockey_lam>	utian, if hosting in indonesia is about this budget, it's doable :)
Sep 07 23:01:37 <sakana>	sorry for the late
Sep 07 23:01:42 <abharath>	SFD_Fred: you wanna compete wit me you mean? ;)
Sep 07 23:01:43 <utian>	SFD_Fred, local company is possible
Sep 07 23:01:47 <emily>	sakana: welcome 
Sep 07 23:02:00 <pockey_lam>	sakana, it's okay, i wrote meeting notes, we are now talking about the venues of GNOME.Asia hackfest 2012
Sep 07 23:02:02 <sakana>	we just finish ^^
Sep 07 23:02:02 <abharath>	naah on a serious note, no issues in Bangalore
Sep 07 23:02:15 <pockey_lam>	utian, so local companies are possible :)
Sep 07 23:02:45 <emily>	<sakana: would you please shortly introduce yourself ? 
Sep 07 23:02:46 <SFD_Fred>	utian: we would help write a call for sponsorship document and send it to contacts we can find
Sep 07 23:02:50 <emily>	to everyone here 
Sep 07 23:03:00 <SFD_Fred>	utian: but it's true that having local contacts is important
Sep 07 23:03:03 <utian>	pockey_lam, i'll do the best :)
Sep 07 23:03:10 <pockey_lam>	utian, great
Sep 07 23:03:16 <abharath>	ok time to tweet about this :) to see if I am alone or I have any helping hands :D
Sep 07 23:03:23 <pockey_lam>	abharath, how about in india, what do u think getting local sponsors ?
Sep 07 23:03:27 <utian>	SFD_Fred, ok thats gonna help us
Sep 07 23:03:33 <abharath>	Am I permitted to do that? or is this an undercover operation?
Sep 07 23:03:44 <abharath>	pockey_lam: some of them should be very much possible
Sep 07 23:03:46 <sakana>	I am sakana the guy who would like to org the GNOME-TW Users group, and I am an instrator
Sep 07 23:03:58 <sakana>	^^
Sep 07 23:04:00 <abharath>	I'll catch the foss.in organizers and enquire with them
Sep 07 23:04:31 <emily>	sakana: we will send out the IRC minutes, you will catch up them 
Sep 07 23:04:49 <sakana>	emily, thanks you
Sep 07 23:04:52 <wers>	hi sakana :)
Sep 07 23:05:05 <pockey_lam>	abharath, great! 
Sep 07 23:05:07 <wers>	so you're a part of COSCUP, I assume
Sep 07 23:05:17 <pockey_lam>	so, emily and I will prepare a call for host soon ! 
Sep 07 23:05:21 <sakana>	wers, hi ^__^
Sep 07 23:05:38 <emily>	sure, pockey_lam 
Sep 07 23:05:41 <abharath>	pockey_lam: soon == ?
Sep 07 23:05:51 <pockey_lam>	and abharath utian andika , you are all invited to submit proposal :)
Sep 07 23:06:00 <abharath>	pockey_lam: yup :)
Sep 07 23:06:04 <pockey_lam>	soon =  in 2 weeks
Sep 07 23:06:07 <pockey_lam>	but you guys know everything we know
Sep 07 23:06:11 <pockey_lam>	so you can start to prepare them :)
Sep 07 23:06:14 <abharath>	ok 2 weeks sounds good enough
Sep 07 23:06:17 <abharath>	:D
Sep 07 23:06:21 <sakana>	wers,  I meet emily at COSCUP / GNOME.Asia  <----
Sep 07 23:06:27 <utian>	pockey_lam, ok
Sep 07 23:07:09 <pockey_lam>	:) 
Sep 07 23:07:14 <abharath>	Show me code, I'll fix it :) Organize an event, I'll surely need to bite into the experience of each and every one of you :)
Sep 07 23:07:27 <wers>	sakana, then we might have met too :)
Sep 07 23:07:30 <pockey_lam>	abharath, you are being humble
Sep 07 23:07:32 <emily>	abharath utian andika, if March is too close and a rush in your country , we can planning for GNOME.Asia 2012, 2013, ... 
Sep 07 23:07:34 *	andika will support utian in proposal preparation; no need to make 2 Indonesian proposals :D
Sep 07 23:07:46 <pockey_lam>	andika, thanks :)
Sep 07 23:08:30 <emily>	<abharath>: you are already good enough !!! 
Sep 07 23:09:00 <pockey_lam>	so, if there is anything else need to ask about gnome.asia hackfest 2012
Sep 07 23:09:06 <pockey_lam>	u can always ask us by email 
Sep 07 23:09:31 <utian>	andika, thank you, pak :)
Sep 07 23:09:33 <emily>	or ask in asia-summit gnome org
Sep 07 23:09:37 <pockey_lam>	already 1 hour...
Sep 07 23:09:39 <abharath>	emily: you ppl scare me now :D
Sep 07 23:09:41 <pockey_lam>	i will skip two agenda items
Sep 07 23:09:56 <pockey_lam>	Start a new Mailing list and IRC channel for GNOME.Asia (not
Sep 07 23:09:56 <pockey_lam>	> > committee ones)  =. emily and myself should take care of it 
Sep 07 23:10:01 *	andika_slow has quit (leaving)
Sep 07 23:10:11 <pockey_lam>	GNOME.Asia website: building new contents => we can have a separate meeting to talk about this one
Sep 07 23:10:27 <pockey_lam>	let's spend 10 mins to talk about Discuss about the event box / kit for local users group ? 
Sep 07 23:10:36 *	abharath claps for the initiatives
Sep 07 23:10:37 <utian>	emily, i think march its low foss conference season here
Sep 07 23:11:27 <emily>	<utian: yes, march is a quite season
Sep 07 23:11:43 <emily>	Good thing is there is no confict event for GNNOME 
Sep 07 23:11:54 <emily>	in 2010, GUADEC and GNOME.Asia are too close 
Sep 07 23:12:20 <pockey_lam>	i also think Q 1 is a good season for GNOME.Asia 
Sep 07 23:12:24 <wers>	is there a sched already for the next GUADEC?
Sep 07 23:12:35 <emily>	in berlin 
Sep 07 23:12:39 <wers>	it's going to be with KDE again, right?
Sep 07 23:12:42 <wers>	oooh
Sep 07 23:12:43 <emily>	yes 
Sep 07 23:12:46 <abharath>	wers: ;)
Sep 07 23:12:50 <wers>	when?
Sep 07 23:12:55 <emily>	august 
Sep 07 23:13:25 <emily>	For the event box, we can talk about it in email 
Sep 07 23:13:30 <pockey_lam>	emily, ok
Sep 07 23:13:44 <wers>	what else do we have for tonight?
Sep 07 23:13:49 <pockey_lam>	wers, nothing then :)
Sep 07 23:13:58 <pockey_lam>	any other question / point?
Sep 07 23:14:01 <wers>	when's the next meeting?
Sep 07 23:14:06 <emily>	general idea is local team can design their own event box in their country and foundation will pay the fee rather than sending a event box 
Sep 07 23:14:08 <pockey_lam>	next tuesday
Sep 07 23:14:15 <pockey_lam>	is it okay for everybody?
Sep 07 23:14:18 <pockey_lam>	same time
Sep 07 23:14:32 <emily>	OK for me 
Sep 07 23:14:35 <pockey_lam>	okay for me
Sep 07 23:14:42 <abharath>	no problems here
Sep 07 23:14:44 <sakana>	ok for me
Sep 07 23:14:50 <pockey_lam>	wers, abharath utian sakana will-mobile ?
Sep 07 23:14:52 <wers>	ok for me :)
Sep 07 23:14:55 <wers>	same time, I suppose
Sep 07 23:15:08 <pockey_lam>	andika?
Sep 07 23:15:12 <pockey_lam>	yes, same time
Sep 07 23:15:15 <pockey_lam>	i will send reminder 
Sep 07 23:15:15 *	lakhil (~lakhil 117 192 12 85) has joined #asia-summit
Sep 07 23:15:17 <utian>	pockey_lam, which mailing list to discuss about it?
Sep 07 23:15:22 <andika>	not sure :(
Sep 07 23:15:31 <pockey_lam>	asia-summit gnome org
Sep 07 23:15:32 <andika>	I will be highly mobile next week
Sep 07 23:15:32 <abharath>	ah ah the savior is here :)
Sep 07 23:15:36 <andika>	holiday
Sep 07 23:15:49 <pockey_lam>	andika, utian can either one of you join? ;)
Sep 07 23:16:02 <abharath>	lakhil: we just now decided Bangalore is the place and the venue is your home :)
Sep 07 23:16:10 <pockey_lam>	lakhil, hi hi 
Sep 07 23:16:16 <emily>	haha 
Sep 07 23:16:20 <pockey_lam>	lakhil, can you shortly introduce yourself?
Sep 07 23:16:24 <emily>	abharath>: you are funny 
Sep 07 23:16:36 <emily>	lakhil: hello 
Sep 07 23:16:37 <lakhil>	hello all
Sep 07 23:16:57 <lakhil>	sorry for coming late :(
Sep 07 23:17:04 <wers>	hi lakhil 
Sep 07 23:17:08 <pockey_lam>	lakhil, it;s okay, i wrote meeting notes, will send email to you
Sep 07 23:17:39 <lakhil>	pockey_lam, i work on Evolution as QA, i do bug triaging in gnome bugzilla
Sep 07 23:18:07 <pockey_lam>	lakhil, cool! i kept note on the meeting minutes for everybody introduction
Sep 07 23:18:30 <lakhil>	abharath, i am moving to Andaman shortly, jfyi ;-)
Sep 07 23:18:38 <lakhil>	pockey_lam, ah..cool
Sep 07 23:18:45 <abharath>	lakhil: cool nice choice for the venue :)
Sep 07 23:18:51 <utian>	pockey_lam, i'll join the mailing list
Sep 07 23:19:03 <abharath>	I think SFD_Fred went to fish by the sea ;)
Sep 07 23:19:13 <pockey_lam>	haha
Sep 07 23:19:19 <andika>	utian: he asked if you can join next week meeting, some time
Sep 07 23:19:19 <SFD_Fred>	abharath: i don't eat fish.. ;-)
Sep 07 23:19:32 <abharath>	SFD_Fred: fish for us I meant :P
Sep 07 23:19:45 <sakana>	SFD_Fred, thanks for not eat me ^^
Sep 07 23:20:10 <pockey_lam>	by the way, since we have so many people
Sep 07 23:20:33 <abharath>	pockey_lam: sure. I'll wait for the minutes. Upload it to a wiki page probably or just exchange emails?
Sep 07 23:20:42 <SFD_Fred>	abharath: haha.. i see
Sep 07 23:20:43 <pockey_lam>	anybody wanna to help to write meeting notes? ;) 
Sep 07 23:20:51 <pockey_lam>	as it's difficult for me to host the chat and write notes at the same time 
Sep 07 23:20:55 <pockey_lam>	i mean for next time
Sep 07 23:20:57 <utian>	andika, o sory yeah next tuesday i can
Sep 07 23:21:03 <pockey_lam>	wers, do u ? ;)
Sep 07 23:21:27 <wers>	pockey_lam, do I? 
Sep 07 23:21:31 <lakhil>	pockey_lam, instead of notes, we can just post full logs, won't it work well ?
Sep 07 23:21:34 <wers>	you mean write notes?
Sep 07 23:21:44 <abharath>	pockey_lam: don't ask lakhil to ;) he'll just post them in his bug reports :D
Sep 07 23:21:45 <pockey_lam>	anybody volunteer to write meeting minutes 
Sep 07 23:21:52 <pockey_lam>	abharath, LOL
Sep 07 23:21:56 <emily>	lakhil: minute will digest content and AI is more clear 
Sep 07 23:22:04 <pockey_lam>	we just need to write AI 
Sep 07 23:22:07 <pockey_lam>	action items
Sep 07 23:22:14 <utian>	o i forget to tell you all, in indonesia this week are gonna be long holiday
Sep 07 23:22:29 <emily>	pockey will send this time, you will see the tempate 
Sep 07 23:22:35 <lakhil>	emily, pockey_lam ah..k but do we post complete log some where ?
Sep 07 23:22:52 <emily>	lakhil: just in mail list 
Sep 07 23:23:04 <emily>	reminder everyone to finish their AI before next meeting 
Sep 07 23:23:05 <lakhil>	okies
Sep 07 23:23:05 *	SFD_Fred going to cut myself another slice of tart
Sep 07 23:23:06 <utian>	so the progress to prepare it from me this week will not significant
Sep 07 23:23:08 <pockey_lam>	lakhil, yeah, i will save as file and put in the list, in the future, WILL will help us to post it in the site? 
Sep 07 23:23:12 <pockey_lam>	will-mobile, hey
Sep 07 23:23:14 <pockey_lam>	will-mobile, can you
Sep 07 23:23:15 <pockey_lam>	?
Sep 07 23:23:46 <pockey_lam>	utian, no problem , just to digest 
Sep 07 23:23:48 <emily>	That's easy for will 
Sep 07 23:24:00 <pockey_lam>	will-mobile, emily, good 
Sep 07 23:24:23 <pockey_lam>	AI : emily / Will to post log online and send us the link
Sep 07 23:24:58 <pockey_lam>	hehe, if anybody wanna volunteer later, the post is always open
Sep 07 23:25:00 <pockey_lam>	:)
Sep 07 23:25:02 <abharath>	aah cool all moderators for asia-summit list are here :)
Sep 07 23:25:07 <pockey_lam>	thank you very much guys 
Sep 07 23:25:08 <utian>	but to prepare writing proposal its no problem
Sep 07 23:25:14 <pockey_lam>	it's a very productive meeting
Sep 07 23:25:24 <emily>	good start 
Sep 07 23:25:29 <abharath>	+1
Sep 07 23:25:31 <pockey_lam>	utian, yep 
Sep 07 23:25:38 <sakana>	+1
Sep 07 23:25:45 <pockey_lam>	utian, and u can ask questions next week 
Sep 07 23:25:51 <SFD_Fred>	so who's the committee secretary?
Sep 07 23:26:07 *	abharath looks at pockey_lam ;)
Sep 07 23:26:17 <emily>	pockey is the host 
Sep 07 23:26:18 <pockey_lam>	abharath, hahaa
Sep 07 23:26:25 <pockey_lam>	abharath, you are naughty
Sep 07 23:26:28 <abharath>	then /me looks at emily :D
Sep 07 23:26:28 <SFD_Fred>	well if no one volunteer we'll change at every meeting
Sep 07 23:26:43 <utian>	pockey_lam, is it asia-summit gnome org and asia-summit-list gnome org are same mailing list?
Sep 07 23:26:57 <pockey_lam>	asia-summit-list gnome org is the right one, wait
Sep 07 23:26:58 <andika>	asia-summit gnome org is different to asia-summit-list gnome org?
Sep 07 23:27:06 <andika>	ah
Sep 07 23:27:12 <andika>	you can read my mind
Sep 07 23:27:13 <andika>	hahahaha
Sep 07 23:27:17 <pockey_lam>	asia-summit-list gnome org is the right one
Sep 07 23:27:22 <emily>	asia-summit-list gnome org
Sep 07 23:28:06 <utian>	ok then, thanks all
Sep 07 23:28:10 <emily>	good nite every one 
Sep 07 23:28:18 <emily>	time to bed
Sep 07 23:28:22 <sakana>	^^
Sep 07 23:28:30 <sakana>	time to get down MRT
Sep 07 23:28:34 <andika>	kthxbye
Sep 07 23:28:38 *	andika (~andika 182 0 95 74) has left #asia-summit
Sep 07 23:28:43 <wers>	g'niiiiiiiight
Sep 07 23:28:43 <pockey_lam>	thanks guys and bye :)