Re: open letter to pawel

[Steffen Klemer <masterofheap gmx net>]

I don't think I'm allowed to say anything, 'cause I haven't even coded ony 
byte of code for this project...

but if sb. is interested in my 0.02:

Ali is completly right:

if balsa is quickly and cleanly ported to gnome2 it will definetivly be the 
standart mua again!
Sure: there isn't a huge base of users right after the launch.
But if balsa is there and is there without too many bugs it will compete!
Balsa is nearly feature completed (pgp is missing and the filters have to 
be improved...).
The only thing which is needed is perhaps a little bit more speed and less 
annoying bugs.
Balsa isn't that far away from apps like KMail or so, is has some rough 
edges (like the integration of identities) but it can clearly compete!
All the other nice things like a new MailBoxLibrary or the abandon of 
libmutt are not needed in the very near future.
So why don't make a plan: for the next release we need
that, that and that, who wants to do this?

To clearly show the new raise of balsa it should have the 2.0 as the 
version (and to show the compatibility to gnome2!)
In that direction balsa should (in my eyes) later also adopt more gnomeish 
features like a bonobo support for viewing attachments, gconf/bonoboconf 
support or an oaf framework

Like I said: just my 0.02¤
Not the ¤ of an important prson of this project!

Am 2002.02.14 21:54 schrieb(en) Ali Akcaagac:
   > hello pawel,
   >   > how do you think the future of balsa should look ? i am asking this
   > because there is no reply on some stuff that i posted on the 
mailinglist
   > for discussion. how and what way should balsa continue and how do you
   > see the future ?
   >   > i understand that you do this project for a couple of years now 
and you
   > do quite a good job but personally i think the development of balsa is
   > quite slow and a bit uncoordinated. please dont get me wrong, i 
remember
   > a couple of time back the plans on getting balsa on gnome 2 but really
   > nothing much happened till yet.
   >   > i almost lost interest in doing some lines for balsa since i dont 
see
   > much progress. the only really active ones are always the same people.
   > but we dont get any progress. the version numbers increase, a lot of
   > bugs will be moved from one version to another, new bugs are getting 
in,
   > the code looks like a dutch cheese. gnome 2 is nocking on the door a 
lot
   > of projects like evolution and sylpheed are starting to become better
   > than balsa. i often came up with comments hints and ideas about how we
   > could improve and change but often these mails are beeing unanswered.
   >   > is there any roadmap, any interest any motivation to get balsa 
port to
   > gnome 2 or at least bail out a lot of problems on current versions ? or
   > is there a need that we need to fork balsa and go our own way ?
   >   > look i am active watching the progress of gnome 2 and how much 
stuff
   > people do to get things working, even the claimed dead nautilus gets
   > progress, fast changes etc. by the same free programming developers. a
   > lot of code cleanups, a lot of progress, a lot of speedups etc.
   >   > i see that there are some changes in balsa code every now and then 
but
   > mainly changes, tweaks additions but no CODEFREEZE or no fullstop where
   > one can say. well until here and end, now lets go a new road. nothing
   > that comes from you (somehow we all expect you to say something, since
   > you are the maintainer of balsa) but nothing. actually no one really
   > knows what the plans are and what to do.
   >   > look jelmer did some more or less tweaks to get balsa running on 
gnome 2
   > but thats all and for sure not enough. there are a lot of people on 
this
   > list including me and some others that really BURN to get things worked
   > up. i think with a tad more project organisation etc we could get balsa
   > back to #1 (no its for sure not THE gnome mailclient no more)
   >   > well, i am not the perfect programmer but i think we all together 
could
   > manage it. seriously i hope you gonna answer me and i also hope that 
the
   > others write one or 2 lines for this too otherwise it makes no sense 
for
   > me staying on this mailinglist or contribute more stuff to balsa. well 
i
   > would also take a reply from you where you say that i should completely
   > piss off or something. it would disappoint me but life will continue.
   >   > oki whats up now ? all comments replies welcome. even those 
telling me
   > to fuck off..
   >   > --
   > Name....: Ali Akcaagac
   > Status..: Student Of Computer & Economic Science
   > E-Mail..: mailto:ali.akcaagac@stud.fh-wilhelmshaven.de
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   >   > cu
/Steffen

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