Re: Balsa 2.2.0 end user impressions

[Marco van Oostende <marco oostende nl>]

On 2004.07.21 04:11, Willem Riede wrote:
> On 07/20/2004 08:34:15 PM, Craig Routledge wrote:
> >   "SMTP server refused connection.
> >    Balsa by default uses submission service (587).
> >    If you want to submit mail using relay service (25),
> >    specify it explicitly via: "host:smtp".
> >    Message is left in outbox."
> >
> > This may be the best route.  Asking the user for information that they may
> > not have been given by their ISP (who think that all mail programs connect
> > to port 25) is a poor idea for a wizard designed for newbies.
> >
> > This way the wizard does not ask, but the setting is available.  And the
> > user only needs to be concerned with any of this if there is a problem.
> >
> > On 07/20/2004 11:01:09 AM, Peter Bloomfield wrote:
> > > Agreed; some might argue that "submission" (587) is the correct default
> > > port, but I have yet to find an smtp server that provides it!
> >
> > So the only question is: what should the default setting be?  I'm all for
> > using 587, but I don't see any movement away from SMTP on port 25, and  
> > POP3
> > for pickup on the vast majority of major ISPs.  Certainly that's what I'm
> > stuck with at the moment.
>
> Could Balsa check whether 587 is available in real time while the smtp
> server is being set up?
>
> Regards, Willem Riede.

As a novice end user, I would probably consult a nephew to help me out on the  
message above. Wouldn't it be user friendly to have a radio button or  
pulldown that gives you the choice between Submission (587) and SMTP (25)  
during setup, and only the plain address in a text box? That way it is also  
less important what the default is.

Regs,
Marco