Re: 'Delete' v. 'Move to trash'

[Peter Bloomfield <peterbloomfield bellsouth net>]

On 01/08/2005 04:31:44 AM, Pawel Salek wrote:
> On 01/08/2005 04:43:00 AM, Craig Routledge wrote:
[ snip ]
> > Are you suggesting getting rid of the whole move-to-trash  
> > method of deleting mail?
>
> I would be fine with it - but I would like to know what other  
> people think about this - perhaps it is too radical.

It would work for me--I can't remember the last time I retrieved  
anything from the trash.

> > How I like to work is to have all messages that I choose to  
> > "delete" go away immediately, to some place I can recover them  
> > from if I hit the key on the wrong message or some such.  I  
> > have Trash automatically purged at exit.  Granted, I could  
> > unhide tagged- deleted message them to do the same  sort of  
> > immediate recovery.  But right now that requires that I open  
> > up the  preferences dialog

?? The Mailbox menu ??

> > and do a lot of clicking.  I suppose if the hide/unhide   
> > deleted messages menu item was given a single-key binding I  
> > could dispense with the trash file and all move-to- trash  
> > functions.
>
> Such a shorcut could be arranged for.

...for yourself--that's really a great idea--I just installed  
Shift+Ctrl+H for it, using mouse-over/key-press--can't imagine  
how I got along without it!

> > I think this whole  idea of two different ways of "deleting"  
> > messages is prone to causing some confusion.
>
> Yes, you are right in your analysis.

I recall a period of confusion over that, too.

> Another difference between real (move-to-trash) and virtual  
> (mark-as-deleted) trash models is that virtual trash folders  
> are easiest to expunge on mailbox close: making them expunge  
> messages on balsa exit may require opening them again, which  
> may be time- consuming.
>
> What I would like to know is whether such an idea is not too  
> radical: I mean would it not be a too big shock for a person  
> who has just switched from another program? For a complete  
> beginner? I cannot tell myself.

I have a vague recollection that Mac's OSX mailer does something  
virtual with the trash--trashed messages can be viewed in the  
trashbox, but also in per-account subfolders--where they're  
actually stored wasn't clear.

Peter