Re: How to create independant pop/smtp/mbox accounts

[andré <andr55 laposte net>]

Jack a écrit :
> On 2017.11.23 02:56, andré via balsa-list wrote:
> > I've finally got around to compiling Balsa (version 2.5.3 from the site). Balsa isn't available in my distro, 
> > and compiling seemed to go well once I figured out the dependancies and flags.
> I'm curious which distribution does not provide balsa?

Mageia, which is a fork of (now essentially dead) Mandriva/Mandrake,
 originally a fork of Red Hat.
There was a lot of cleaning of packages without maintainers, especially leaf packages.
> > I have 2 problems :
> > 1) It doesn't give me access to the help. (Trying to read the help xml files with text editer is challenging 
> > at best.)
> I believe the help requires yelp (https://wiki.gnome.org/Apps/Yelp)
> There is no config flag, and if configure doesn't find it, it doesn't complain - it just doesn't include the 
> help files.
Well, yelp, yelp-tools, and lib64yelp0 were already installed, but not lib64yelp-devel.
But recompiling with the latter installed didn't help.
It still gives me the message (translated from french) : The URI « help:balsa/index » doesn't refer to a 
valid page.
I think it should be pointing to "/pdev/devinet/balsa/balsa-2.5.3/doc/fr/index.page".
I tried copying index.page to index in the same directory, and it didn't make any difference.
> > Is there a compile flag needed to give me access to the help files ?
> > I normally use french (which is automatically displayed in the compiled program), but seeing some of the 
> > somewhat interesting translations,
> > it would probably be better to start with the english documentation.
>
> > 2) I'm migrating from Mozilla (which uses mbox), where I link each pop account with its' own smtp account 
> > (with the same id + password), and own mbox folder tree.
> > I would prefer using the same configuration for Balsa.
> I don't think you can quite do that.  You can use an Identity to refer to a set of pop and smtp credentials, 
> but ALL retrieved mail goes into the Inbox.
I was hoping that I could have a separate inbox for each pop account.
I created a separate account just for Mageia due to getting problems from too many emails being filtered from 
an inbox with my other software-oriented email.

> You can use filters to move mail from Inbox to the identity specific folder based on the "To:" address,
> although that won't quite work if you have another alias receiving mail at the same address.
> (For example, my users.sourceforge.net address is only a redirect to my main ISP mailbox, and I have several 
> others which do the same.
> Also, mailing lists have a To: of the list address, not your actual email.)
That could work for incoming mail, since I don't do redirection.
(Except for certain mostly spam, which doesn't have my email address in the "To" field.)
However, that makes filtering a lot more complex, since for most of my 5 accounts I filter to many different 
mailboxes.
It also requires selecting the outgoing smtp accounts, instead of them being automatically associated to the 
incoming account.

> However, as most filtering beyond that are based on From or To addresses which represent mailing lists, that 
> still works fine for sending messages to an appropriate folder.
>
> > Once I have the base mboxes defined for each account, I don't think I'll have much problem creating the 
> > various subsidiary folders.
> > I plan to use mostly filtering to sort incoming emails to the subsidiary folders.
> As I said above, you might have to filter directly from the Inbox, but this should  not be a problem,
> unless you have the same criteria for multiple pop accounts which you want to go to different addresses.
> I suppose it might be possible to use other headers (Delivered-to: ?) which you would have to do with the 
> "User-Header" field on the filter dialog.
> > Any assistance will be very much appreciated.
> Let us know if this is useful - there are others who might have different suggestions.
That does help.  As least I know I was trying the impossible.  And a possible workaround.
I have been spoiled by the Netscape/Mozilla Suite/Mozilla Seamonkey (or Thunderbird) feature of a separate 
mbox inbox/drafts/sent/trash for each email address.
(Unfortunately I have other problems with Mozilla programs, seemingly due to chaotic "improvements".)
It makes me wonder how difficult it would be for Balsa to implement a separate set of base mbox folders for 
each pop account ...
(If that is ever seriously considered, I'd be willing to help ...)

> > Thanks
> >
> > --
> > André
> Jack
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André