Re: GNOME Goal proposal: app menu retirement [aday gnome org]

[Pawel Salek <pawsa0 gmail com>]

If there is one thing that annoys me with balsa menus and dialog boxes, is the disconnect between IMAP and SMTP configurations. email servers usually go together. Right now, the user needs to create imap configuration in one place, and smtp configuration, in another. I think the wizard supports only IMAP configuration. Am I talking sense?

/Pawel

On Sat, Jul 21, 2018 at 12:47 AM Peter Bloomfield <Peterbloomfield bellsouth net> wrote:

Hi All!

Some time ago, Balsa started using an 'app menu'. In desktops that implement it, such as GNOME 3, you access it from the top bar, but in other desktops it's just another menu at the start of the regular menu bar (I believe). As discussed in the attached, abandoning app menus has been proposed as a goal, and to date I've seen no opposition to the proposal, so going along with it would help to keep Balsa a conforming GNOME app, and would probably simplify life for non-GNOME users.

Balsa's current app menu mainly took over items from the 'File' menu, like 'Preferences", but also subsumed an earlier 'Settings' menu. Having both a 'Settings' menu and a 'Preferences' item on the 'File' menu was always confusing, and making them separate items on the app menu did nothing to clarify the situation.

So this is a great opportunity to revisit Balsa's menu structure! The GNOME Human Interface Guidelines 2.2.3 (linked in the attached) have some suggestions about 'Standard Menus'; they appear to be targeted toward document-focused apps rather than e-mail clients, but their spirit is something we could incorporate in a new structure for Balsa.

Looking forward to a vigorous discussion!

Peter


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From: Allan Day <aday gnome org>
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Date: Fri, 29 Jun 2018 16:39:25 +0100
Subject: GNOME Goal proposal: app menu retirement
Hi everyone,

We've been talking for a while about removing app menus, and the
designs have now matured to the point where we can propose a concrete
plan. Specifics can be found on the GNOME goal page:

https://wiki.gnome.org/Initiatives/GnomeGoals/AppMenuRetirement

Those of us on the design side are interested to hear what people
think of this, particularly if there are any apps out there that might
have issues following the guidelines.

The initial proposal is to try and complete this goal within the next
development cycle (3.31.x), so there is no immediate development
action required. (Of course, if people think that we could complete it
for 3.30, that would be great!)

Thanks,

Allan
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