Re: Panel menu [was Re: [Usability] 'Capplets' ]

[Calum Benson <calum benson sun com>]

Bill Haneman wrote:

> OK, that sounds OK, except that it's "yet another" magic keybinding...
> If we just insisted that F10 was reserved for the panel menu and applets
> couldn't grab it, that's be fine, since we already use F10 for menus.

Currently, however, you have to use F10 to give focus to the menus and
the dropdown windowlist thing on the menu panel.  This is sucky almost
beyond belief, but until you can just Tab into these things to give them
focus as you can with any other panel object (which I think Padraig told
me needed some gtk fixes), I think F10 might be ruled out for this other
purpose.

Alt+Space does seem like a reasonable alternative, although right now we
don't even have Alt+Space popping up the window menu by default in
Sawfish, and John Harper is averse to adding this as a default
keybinding (see http://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=76290).

> > I still don't understand why we are making panel focus indication
> > inconsistent with other focus indication.
> 
> Well, PRELIGHT would be consistent with menu items, and what
> toolbar items do when mouseover occurs.  

It would also be consistent with splitter bars in paned windows, and the
titlebars of regular windows if you're using focus-follows-mouse. 
(Well, okay, the latter is stretching the point a little, as it's not
quite using the same prelight mechanism that we're talking about here).

Cheeri,
Calum.

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