Re: Hackers, users and Usibility - Was: Re: Control Center Behavior



On Thu, 2002-07-18 at 20:37, Mark Finlay wrote:
> 
> > (Let me also echo Seth's sentiment that we should in no way listen to
> > polls on gnomedesktop.org. ;-) The "real desktop market" by which I
> > mean the easiest 5% of Microsoft market share for us to claim, in
> > order to get started as an interesting desktop OS, is pretty much by
> > definition going to be _totally_ silent on _all_ of our forums. If you
> > know enough about computers to distinguish GNOME from the rest of the
> > OS, and post to a forum, you are not a typical desktop end user, _at
> > all_. End of story. Your needs/wants are going to be totally
> > different.)
> 
> AFAICS , what I see from yourself and Seth is over-anxiousness to break
> with Gnome's image as being the hacker's desktop. Don't alienate and
> dismiss what is after all the majority of your users - the Hackers.

That's why you saw the results you saw on gnomedesktop.org. That, and
the fact that the control-center shell is prettier than what nautilus
shows.

> 
> Appart from that, most of the users of the forum are 'users' - that's
> the idea. Hackers have their lists - users have their forum - most of
> their problems are a joke for myself or anyone else on this list to fix
> - but I set up the forum to help the "new and un-experienced" users with
> GNOME. So the forum users are EXACTLY who you should be listening to.
> These are the users who's friends aren't hackers - these are the people
> who are a single gnome user in a sea of microsoft - these are the users
> who will tell their m$ using friends if they like gnome and feel that
> their opinion counts - these are the users who represent what your
> average microsft users thinks of GNOME.
> 
> It's a good thing that none of them read this list. Havoc, you're a very
> well respected hacker - an insult from you holds as much weight as a
> complement, And i'm not one to tell you what to do - but yeah mmm....

Where did you see insults ? I didn't see any.

<bollocks stuff snipped>

Tada

-- 
/Bastien Nocera
http://hadess.net

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