Re: metacity, vte

[Sander Vesik <Sander Vesik Sun COM>]

On 22 Sep 2002, Sean Middleditch wrote:

> On Sun, 2002-09-22 at 14:05, Alan wrote:
> > On Sun, Sep 22, 2002 at 06:01:51AM -0500, John J. Boyer wrote:
> > > Hello,
> > > I would favor giving the user a choice of window managers. One manager 
> > > could be the default. Perhaps a list of window managers could be 
> > > displayed during startup, and when startup is finished the user could 
> > > change to the one s/he likes best. Then save the ssion and continue.
> > 
> > I disagree with this a bit.  If gnome is going to be a simple/everyday
> > os, I'd vote for using a default WM on install, but sticking the option
> > in a capplet in the advanced section.  Personally I find metacity a bit
> > thing for what I want, and lacking in the configurability to do the
> > things I do with sawfish.  Before anyone asks/flames: dealing with
> > sticky correctly (xmms) nicer alt-tab ability (ie: ot bringing each app
> > to the foreground when I alt tab through my apps), customizable
> > keybindings that actually work (I couldn't get alt-rmb to map to resize
> > window and alt-lmb to map to move window like in sawfish, I just got
> > gconf errors about invalid strings), and a few others. 
> 
> I agree that the average user shouldn't be asked to pick a WM.  That is
> a horrible way to "Make computing easy."
> 
> I still disagree on the capplet, however, if only because users are in
> general idiots, a lot of them are going to end up changing to Sawfish or
> whatnot without having any clue what they're "playing with" and breaking
> their setup, and so on.
> 
> I would maintain that if you are an advanced enough user to configure
> and use Sawfish, even tho it will not be integrated into GNOME the way
> Metacity should (and hopefully will) be, you are also advanced enough to
> change your WM without using a capplet.
> 

Of course, if you count the number of people asking on the gnome lists and
irc on how to change the window manager (and getting the usual answer
involving kill, set, start ...) you will realise that this is just plain
wrong.

	Sander

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