Re: Killing views [Was: Dealing with files in Gnome]

[Ali Akcaagac <aliakc web de>]

On Wednesday 02 April 2003 12:24, Bastien Nocera wrote:
> A file manager acting as a web browser is a crippled file manager. Only
> Microsoft and KDE (+ some Galeon/Ephy users...) seem to think that it's
> a good idea.

Well I don't think so. If you compare the Nautilus window and toolbar then it 
looks really similar to the one from GThumb, Galeon (sorry, I haven't seen 
Epiphany yet) and that's what basically Konqueror is. One window that makes 
usage of plugins to show different tasks in windows (now with tabs support, 
where each tab can do it's own task). Yes I agree to Galeon and the Epiphany 
users and developers here. It doesn't hurt at the end if you don't want to 
use Nautilus as a webbrowser then don't use it, start Galeon or Epiphany as 
standalone application.

Now back to Nautilus, these views basicaly do the same thing don't you think 
now sum up the capabilities of Nautilus, Fontilus, GThumb view, Galeon view 
etc. From final look&feel it's similar to Konqueror but still differently. 
Differently because not all apps can benefit from it. How easy would the 
development of new applications be under GNOME if we use objects of things 
and have them embedded in all apps by simply calling and registring it 
(through Bonobo for example) but right now GNOME still differs between 
standalone apps, Nautilus views and bonoboregistered things for other apps 
e.g. embedding Abiword sheet in Gnumeric (as example).

Am I mistaken here ?

I think that a plugins driven system makes more sense at the end. You write an 
application where the core is placed in a plugin and that you can use in all 
applications on demand and not just in one. GThumb calls up that plugin in 
it's own window and you can use the app normally as standalone app and when 
used in Nautilus it shows it in it's own window and by registering the plugin 
it automatically shows thumbnails, pdf previews, ps previews (depending on 
the plugin), without switching views.

> Well, the only problem is that n-c-b isn't a view, it's a stand-alone
> application, with a gnome-vfs plugin. I guess you need to find another
> example.

Sorry I don't have another example and I must admit that I never spent time 
investigating into either that application nor into writing Nautilus views 
yet. But I'm quite sure that you already figured out what I liked to explain 
here.

(OT) I give you another example. If GNOME had one Bookmark plugin then apps 
such as Nautilus, GThumb, Galeon, Epiphany and various others would simply 
call up that Plugin and have it used in it's own application instead writing 
all time it's own one.

Wrong again ?

That's how entire KDE somehow and works good imo.