Re: Proposal for inclusion of mozilla-bonobo in 2.5

[Darrell Michaud <dmichaud wsi com>]

I agree there is a general need to support embedded apps inside web
browser, but it would ideal if the embedded plugin mechanism allowed
some kind of GUI trick to break out an embedded document from the
browser into its own full-application window as well.

I can't count the number of times I've wanted to do this on web pages
with various embedded media / apps. Most of the time it is doable, but
the method you use to accomplish it can in some cases be awkward and
inconsistent.


On Tue, 2003-10-21 at 13:12, Andrew Sobala wrote:
> On Tue, 2003-10-21 at 17:47, Sean Middleditch wrote:
> > Given that in the core desktop we are moving away from embedded views,
> > I'm not sure this is a good idea at all.  Generally, if I have a file,
> I
> > want to view it in a real window, not an embedded stripped-down "view"
> > in a web browser.
> > 
> 
> No, we are moving away from embedded views *in the file manager*. The
> web browser is not a file manager and navigation is same-window, as
> opposed to nautilus where it is spacial-different-window. So we're using
> a different metaphor, and this was (I think) noted by the nautilus team
> when they first proposed going spacial. So the paradigms are different.
> 
> It's a bit odd for some links to open in a new window while others are
> same-window; since HTML hyperlinks are same-window, it makes sense to
> have idiot-obfuscated-format hyperlinks be same-window too. Also,
> opening in a separate application frequently involves downloading the
> file to a temporary location and opening the file, which will confuse a
> program if it expects to be able to edit it. (This is for applications
> not fully supporting GNOME-VFS.)
> 
> > Are there any cases for *requiring* this functionality in order to
> > browse a site?
> 
> Yes, some sites embed a file which just results in a broken page for
> browsers without a plugin (which in linux distributions is frequently
> the case).
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Darrell Michaud <dmichaud wsi com>