Re: I can't beat Mongol Hordes

[Luis Villa <louie ximian com>]

On Thu, 2003-09-11 at 11:41, Alan wrote:
> Just out of interest, is anyone running this yet?  I'd love to try it,
> but mucking up my work system (where I'm running xd2 on rh9 now) would 
> not be good :)

The xd-testers list mentioned in the announce is probably more
appropriate for that kind of question, but several people internal to
ximian are running it, and judging from list subscriptions and bug
filing at least some people are running it with various degrees of
success :)

Luis

> On Thu, Sep 11, 2003 at 03:55:11AM +0200, Raphael Bosshard wrote:
> > Does it sound strange when I say that I really love Mr. Villa's 
> > release-notes?
> > 
> > Raphael
> > 
> > Luis Villa wrote:
> > 
> > >But I can release packages of them. But first, an homage to our more
> > >artistic and less violent side.
> > >
> > >Obligatory Haiku
> > >================
> > >
> > >shining new software
> > >ooh, ahh, shining. and broken.
> > >one with bugzilla[1]
> > >
> > >What the hell is Luis talking about?
> > >====================================
> > >
> > >There is a new, almost painfully unstable, Ximian Desktop in red
> > >carpet's 'xd-unstable' channel. Why 'unstable', you ask? When it is
> > >based on the uber-wonderful, uber-stable, uber-Khan-like GNOME 2.4?
> > >Because-
> > >
> > >(1) it is currently full of regressions from XD2.0.
> > >
> > >(2) Some packages are still not GNOME 2.4.0- they may be 2.2, or
> > >2.3.late. Mostly 2.4.0, though.
> > >
> > >(3) we plan on moving it to GNOME 2.5 as we get our patches upstream, so
> > >it will probably get more, not less, unstable as time passes.
> > >
> > >(4) it is unsupported. If we break it, you pick up the pieces.
> > >
> > >I can't stress (4) enough- if you're a paid RCX customer, if you
> > >install these packages, your support is Nullo and Voido. In fact, you
> > >can't actually install over RCX right now- it's basically a bug, but
> > >we're thinking of keeping it that way. [You can 'rug up' but that might
> > >leave you with an even /more/ broken setup.]
> > >
> > >This is the greatest thing since Red Carpet 0.9.2.[2] How do I get it?
> > >======================================================================
> > >
> > >First, you go to http://lists.ximian.com/mailman/listinfo/xd-testers
> > >and sign up for the xd-testers list. If we decide to take a hammer to
> > >your setup one morning, this list /might/ contain tips on putting it
> > >back together again, or possibly even a 'duck!' warning the morning that
> > >it happens.
> > >
> > >I've signed up for the list I swear
> > >===================================
> > >
> > >Then follow the instructions at
> > >http://codeblogs.ximian.com/blogs/desktop/ to install. :)
> > >
> > >Known Issues
> > >============
> > >
> > >* only RH9 right now; SuSE 8.2 is Coming Real Soon when the Heroic
> > >Miguel Ibarra completes his Dramatic Attack on the packages.
> > >
> > >* It will install over a 'clean' RH9, but we recommend using it over XD2
> > >since that's slightly more tested internally.
> > >
> > >* no gnomemeeting; still having problems getting the latest version of
> > >the deps building reliably. Will have it by the end of the week.
> > >
> > >* we aren't currently shipping galeon in xd-unstable, and we are
> > >shipping a slightly newer mozilla. So, installing xd-unstable will 
> > >remove galeon in favor of epiphany. We realize that's not for everyone.
> > >:)
> > >
> > >* lots of panel/menu work still to be done, including rounded corners (I
> > >blame Mark, also I suck for not bitching about the regression.) Oh,
> > >also, you'll pretty much have to set up your panels from scratch after
> > >you install. :)
> > >
> > >* related to that, if you're using a new account, your panel setup  will
> > >be totally foobared. It should upgrade from an existing XD2 setup fairly
> > >cleanly, though.
> > >
> > >* quite possibly will break your gstreamer setup if you have one that
> > >currently works.
> > >
> > >So... hope that is sufficiently scary. Still, should be fun. Hope to
> > >see many of you along for the ride.
> > >
> > >Luis, on behalf of the rest of the very kick-ass Ximian Desktop team
> > >[and with great thanks to the Mongol Horde that makes our desktop
> > >possible.]
> > >
> > >[1] bugzilla.ximian.com in this case. Though I'm all in favor of
> > >one-ness with any bugzilla.
> > >
> > >[2] I am /still/ in awe of this release announcement and realize that
> > >nothing I can write can be more than a pale imitation of that
> > >release. Go google for it. Worth your while. I swear. Though now that we
> > >have all of these Novell resources we're thinking of commissioning
> > >McSweeney's to do our next announcement for us.
> > >
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