Yup. The main regression is no control center (the binaries are still there, but the menu entries and control-center-plus aren't). Apart from that, it looks good :) Still, installing it on a work system is a different kettle of fish. There could be more subtle bugs. On Thu, 2003-09-11 at 16:41, Alan wrote: > Just out of interest, is anyone running this yet? I'd love to try it, > but mucking up my work system (where I'm running xd2 on rh9 now) would > not be good :) > > On Thu, Sep 11, 2003 at 03:55:11AM +0200, Raphael Bosshard wrote: > > Does it sound strange when I say that I really love Mr. Villa's > > release-notes? > > > > Raphael > > > > Luis Villa wrote: > > > > >But I can release packages of them. But first, an homage to our more > > >artistic and less violent side. > > > > > >Obligatory Haiku > > >================ > > > > > >shining new software > > >ooh, ahh, shining. and broken. > > >one with bugzilla[1] > > > > > >What the hell is Luis talking about? > > >==================================== > > > > > >There is a new, almost painfully unstable, Ximian Desktop in red > > >carpet's 'xd-unstable' channel. Why 'unstable', you ask? When it is > > >based on the uber-wonderful, uber-stable, uber-Khan-like GNOME 2.4? > > >Because- > > > > > >(1) it is currently full of regressions from XD2.0. > > > > > >(2) Some packages are still not GNOME 2.4.0- they may be 2.2, or > > >2.3.late. Mostly 2.4.0, though. > > > > > >(3) we plan on moving it to GNOME 2.5 as we get our patches upstream, so > > >it will probably get more, not less, unstable as time passes. > > > > > >(4) it is unsupported. If we break it, you pick up the pieces. > > > > > >I can't stress (4) enough- if you're a paid RCX customer, if you > > >install these packages, your support is Nullo and Voido. In fact, you > > >can't actually install over RCX right now- it's basically a bug, but > > >we're thinking of keeping it that way. [You can 'rug up' but that might > > >leave you with an even /more/ broken setup.] > > > > > >This is the greatest thing since Red Carpet 0.9.2.[2] How do I get it? > > >====================================================================== > > > > > >First, you go to http://lists.ximian.com/mailman/listinfo/xd-testers > > >and sign up for the xd-testers list. If we decide to take a hammer to > > >your setup one morning, this list /might/ contain tips on putting it > > >back together again, or possibly even a 'duck!' warning the morning that > > >it happens. > > > > > >I've signed up for the list I swear > > >=================================== > > > > > >Then follow the instructions at > > >http://codeblogs.ximian.com/blogs/desktop/ to install. :) > > > > > >Known Issues > > >============ > > > > > >* only RH9 right now; SuSE 8.2 is Coming Real Soon when the Heroic > > >Miguel Ibarra completes his Dramatic Attack on the packages. > > > > > >* It will install over a 'clean' RH9, but we recommend using it over XD2 > > >since that's slightly more tested internally. > > > > > >* no gnomemeeting; still having problems getting the latest version of > > >the deps building reliably. Will have it by the end of the week. > > > > > >* we aren't currently shipping galeon in xd-unstable, and we are > > >shipping a slightly newer mozilla. So, installing xd-unstable will > > >remove galeon in favor of epiphany. We realize that's not for everyone. > > >:) > > > > > >* lots of panel/menu work still to be done, including rounded corners (I > > >blame Mark, also I suck for not bitching about the regression.) Oh, > > >also, you'll pretty much have to set up your panels from scratch after > > >you install. :) > > > > > >* related to that, if you're using a new account, your panel setup will > > >be totally foobared. It should upgrade from an existing XD2 setup fairly > > >cleanly, though. > > > > > >* quite possibly will break your gstreamer setup if you have one that > > >currently works. > > > > > >So... hope that is sufficiently scary. Still, should be fun. Hope to > > >see many of you along for the ride. > > > > > >Luis, on behalf of the rest of the very kick-ass Ximian Desktop team > > >[and with great thanks to the Mongol Horde that makes our desktop > > >possible.] > > > > > >[1] bugzilla.ximian.com in this case. Though I'm all in favor of > > >one-ness with any bugzilla. > > > > > >[2] I am /still/ in awe of this release announcement and realize that > > >nothing I can write can be more than a pale imitation of that > > >release. Go google for it. Worth your while. I swear. Though now that we > > >have all of these Novell resources we're thinking of commissioning > > >McSweeney's to do our next announcement for us. > > > > > >_______________________________________________ > > >desktop-devel-list mailing list > > >desktop-devel-list gnome org > > >http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/desktop-devel-list > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > desktop-devel-list mailing list > > desktop-devel-list gnome org > > http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/desktop-devel-list -- Andrew Sobala <andrew sobala net> The lighting designer is expected to be a master of art, science, history, psychology, communications, politics and sometimes even mind reading. -- Stage Lighting Design 101
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