Re: Making GNOME crash

["Gustavo J. A. M. Carneiro" <gjc inescporto pt>]

Seg, 2005-11-07 às 01:36 -0500, Matthias Clasen escreveu:
> On Sun, 2005-11-06 at 17:39 +0100, Vincent Untz wrote:
> > Hey,
> > 
> > The next releases of glib (HEAD and glib-2-8) will support a new debug
> > flag for the G_DEBUG environment variable: fatal_criticals. This make
> > the program crash on critical warnings.
> > 
> > I propose to use this nice feature during the development cycles to help
> > eradicate all these critical warnings. I made a simple patch for
> > gnome-session:
> > 	http://www.gnome.org/~vuntz/tmp/gnome-session.diff
> > 
> > Why? Well, we currently have critical warnings in a lot of modules. And
> > we don't care since we don't notice them. With this, we could easily
> > notice them and have nice stack traces to fix them. This should result
> > in less bugs.
> > 
> > Does it make the desktop unusable? Well, the wncklet-applet crashes [1],
> > it seems bug-buddy crashes on Fedora [2] and, err, I can't use
> > evolution ;-) More crashes are expected, but I think the sooner we fix
> > the critical warnings, the better.
> > 
> > What do you think?
> > 
> > [1] http://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=149326 with a patch
> > [2] http://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=320062
> > 
> > Vincent
> > 
> 
> I'm not convinced that making HEAD unusable for everybody by enforcing
> this in gnome-session is the way forward. For one thing, it will
> drastically reduce the amount of testing that HEAD gets. I think making
> this the focus of a Gnome love day can have the same results without
> affecting the testability of HEAD for everybody else.

  I completely agree.  This reminds me of some modules in the past
having hardcoded -Werror in CFLAGS.  Some people just want to compile
and run GNOME, not be forced into fixing every module in the way.

> 
> Matthias
> 
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