Re: What about Embedded?

[Jamie McCracken <jamiemcc blueyonder co uk>]

Philip Van Hoof wrote:
> On Fri, 2006-07-21 at 00:02 +0200, Philip Van Hoof wrote:
> > On Thu, 2006-07-20 at 14:46 -0400, Miguel de Icaza wrote:
>
> > > Mono works just fine on embedded devices, and considering that it
> > > consumes less memory than Python when running Gtk applications and
> > > people do not have a problem using Python on embedded devices I do not
> > > see the problem.
> > In fact. Considering that most of ALSO the application developers in the
> > GNOME context are very good at *not* freeing up their memory,
>
> Oh, before you all start thinking he's doing the holier-than-thou thing
> again: Remember that I said I wanted to use Mono for my future/upcoming
> applications? That's because I'm equally bad at freeing up my memory.
>
> The reality in this story is that application developers don't want to
> care about this. This is why a lot of them prefer to develop using
> virtual machines.
>
> And this is why GNOME should accept and go for higher programming
> languages and modern development techniques.

I totally agree but wouldn't it be better to use native languages that 
offer all this like the D language (http://www.digitalmars.com/d/).

No one has ever justified why we need a VM given all its disadvantages 
(speed - especially when mixing with native code, startup time, resource 
usage, bloat etc)

Also managed languages can still leak and crash and misbehave if the 
p/invoke is not done properly so it aint a silver bullet.

The D language offers the best of all worlds IMO *without* compromising 
on speed, resource usage or bloat. It would be madness to use a VM instead!

(of course its not as integrated into Gnome yet and lacks an IDE but if 
someone puts the work in you will have a killer platform than no VM 
based platform can match)

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Mr Jamie McCracken
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