That's a bit of a hacky fix though; we should try and get as many applications as possible to support inhibition automatically. Philip On Fri, 2007-10-19 at 19:48 -0500, Benjamin Gramlich wrote: > Isn't this discussion a bit moot since gnome has a "suspend inhibit" > applet that you can turn on in situations when you want to sit back > and watch a movie or download a .iso image? > > > > On 10/19/07, Richard Hughes <hughsient gmail com> wrote: > On Fri, 2007-10-19 at 18:52 +0100, Odysseus Flappington wrote: > > It appears to me that how Gnome Power Manager determines > whether the > > computer idle before it suspends/hibernates could be better > designed. > > I understand that it is each application's responsibility to > inhibit > > the computer from sleeping while in use > > ( https://wiki.ubuntu.com/GnomePowerManagerInactiveSleep ), > however > > there are so few Gnome apps that actually implement this > properly that > > I'm beginning to believe there must be a better way of doing > this. > > Well, we've discussed quite a few ways of doing this in the > past - > kpowersave just checks a blacklist of processes which is > completely > wrong way to do it in my opinion. Having a nice interface lets > us do > clever things. > > > Just a few example of Gnome putting the computer to sleep > while doing > > stuff, these are off the top of my head and go alongside > countless > > others that I've come across: > > - Firefox when playing Flash. > > Surely you want that to suspend if there's been no movement > for 15 > minutes? flash kills the battery life.. > > > - VLC when playing music. > > Rhythmbox already inhibits gnome-power-manager. > > > - Kino while capturing video through firewire. > > Sure, it should do, although it's not dbusified IIRC. > > > - Synaptic Package Manager while downloading packages! > > PackageKit already does this :-) - I think the ubuntu update > applet also > does an inhibit. > > > - While copying files in Nautilus! > > A bug was files many months ago about that - Nautilus needed > to pick up > a dbus dep which the maintainers at the time didn't like. I > think we can > revisit that one now. > > > This is pretty basic laptop stuff, and since equivalent bugs > haven't > > been reported on Windows and that generally I've never come > across > > these problems, I would conclude that they've found a more > effective > > way of implementing this. > > They haven't. Asking each app "can i suspend?" doesn't scale, > and it > only takes one app to say "no" all the time to get a very hot > closed > laptop. > > > Are there any plans to look at the design of the > suspend/hibernate > > mechanisms that Gnome implements and re-work them? What > consensus has > > been reached regarding this issue already? > > Well, over time more and more stuff uses these interfaces. I > think > brassereo (sp?) already uses the interface when burning a CD. > It's > probably a 10 line patch to add this functionality into > applications. > > Richard. > > > _______________________________________________ > desktop-devel-list mailing list > desktop-devel-list gnome org > http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/desktop-devel-list > > _______________________________________________ > desktop-devel-list mailing list > desktop-devel-list gnome org > http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/desktop-devel-list
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