Re: GNOME 3.0 in March 2011

[John Stowers <john stowers lists gmail com>]

On Thu, 2010-07-29 at 13:50 +0200, Steve Frécinaux wrote:
> On 07/29/2010 01:06 PM, Xavier Claessens wrote:
> >> Speaking about my modules, I will not accept any changes to make them
> >> work with GTK+ 2.x again, nor would I want people to waste their times
> >> doing that.
> >
> > Why? As I understand, GTK3's only advantage is to have GtkApplication,
> > which is being backported to 2.22, right? So I don't see why you can't
> > make a --enable-gtk3 switch in your modules. Empathy is doing that from
> > the beginning, and it works fine.
> 
> This is not so easy for some modules. Especially, those who rely on 
> bindings and have been working toward gobject-introspection support (as 
> gedit, totem and vinagre did, by supporting libpeas) must deal with the 
> fact that those new bindings (or at least, pygobject's g-i support, 
> which was the concern in gedit's case) won't see a 2.32 release.

Would you consider supporting non pygobject-g-i (i.e. traditional)
python plugins in libpeas if I finish the pygtk-3.0 stuff [1]?

John

[1]
http://mail.gnome.org/archives/gtk-devel-list/2010-July/msg00031.html

> 
> >> The 2.32 story is inexistent: "Hey, you have a couple of weeks to
> >> release something that you didn't plan for, and that didn't exist".
> >
> > If I understood, the story for 2.32 is the same than what we planned to
> > be 3.0 so far. Except:
> > 1) modules should release with the version '2.32' instead of '3.0'.
> > 2) gnome-shell won't be part of that release
> > 3) modules must build with GTK 2.22, with extra bonus if they also build
> > with 3.0.
> > 4) did I forgot something else?
> 
> - pygobject with g-i support won't be part of that release
> - dconf won't be part of that release
> => people won't spend time to strip those out of the modules that spent 
> consequent resources on embracing them.
> 
> I think the release-team goal here is not to force those into stripping 
> those 3.0-only bits, hence the agreement on the gedit plan to make just 
> another 2.30 release with some more fixes.
> 
> Regards,
> Steve Frécinaux
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