Re: 3.6 Feature: IBus/XKB integration

[Marguerite Su <i marguerite su>]

On Sun, May 13, 2012 at 10:46 PM, Owen Taylor <otaylor redhat com> wrote:
> On Sun, 2012-05-13 at 08:43 +0100, Tomas Frydrych wrote:
>> Rather a long discussion over IBus, but it seems to more or less boil
>> down to two voices and this:
>>
>> Gnome developers: we want tighter IM integration and simpler UI in the
>> name of better UX, and are looking at IBus as the underlying technology,
>>
>> Users: IBus has poor support for CJK input and a history of not
>> addressing these problems.
>>
>> The developers desire for improving the UX is commendable, but without
>> core functionality there is no UX regardless of how sweet the UI; in the
>> UX contest ugly menu wins over no keyboard hands down; Linux users will
>> put up with a lot, but I dare to say (though I am not a UX designer!) we
>> all draw the line at not being able to use the keyboard.
>>
>> CJK represents a big target user group that Gnome cannot afford to
>> ignore; it would seem to me that the necessary conclusion here is that,
>> at this point in time, IBus is not a suitable candidate for a singular
>> IM framework supported by Gnome, and that any plans for immediate IM
>> improvements need to be rethought to avoid hard IBus dependency.
>
> Tomas - I think there might be some confusion here. IBus is developed by
> Chinese and Japanese developers and is certainly capable of entering
> text in these languages.
>
> - Owen
>
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yes. that's one of the background knowledge.

and another background knowledge:

fcitx is capable of inputing in Traditional Chinese( IBus don't make
it even work), Simplified Chinese(as I said, top choice if user has
choices), Korean( korean Ubuntu users is discussing it in their forums
just right now.), Vietnamese.

and Japanese is starting in two months after Weng finished his
graduation paper. it's for GNOME 3.6 right? he invent fcitx-keyboard
in just two days but solid. can't you wait  two month and work on
other parts of fcitx?

and acutally, we're not pushing to eliminate IBus. we said so much
about fcitx, just want you know there're better choice for users which
should be taken into consideration  for compatibility even if you're
integrating IBus. and they're waiting for you invitation for the
so-called "productive relationship".

Marguerite