Re: Announcing GNOME's official GitHub mirror

[fr33domlover <fr33domlover mailoo org>]

Many large projects use Gitorious successfully.

I have just small repos there, so I don't feel any serious weaknesses,
but some large projects (you can find a list on their website) do use
it. I'm sure Gnome users can do it too.



On ה', 2013-08-15 at 09:47 -0400, Jasper St. Pierre wrote:
> On Thu, Aug 15, 2013 at 9:40 AM, fr33domlover
> <fr33domlover mailoo org> wrote:
>         On ה', 2013-08-15 at 14:29 +0000, Marco Scannadinari wrote:
>         > On Thu, 2013-08-15 at 16:13 +0300, fr33domlover wrote:
>         > > Allow me to clarify:
>         > >
>         > > You're free to use github mirrors, it's your right to do
>         so. But I have
>         > > the right not to cooperate with this. All Gnome
>         maintainers have this
>         > > right.
>         > >
>         > > If you're going to enable those github mirrors, make sure
>         any maintainer
>         > > can easily turn off mirroring for their module.
>         >
>         > why?
>         
>         
>         Because Github is centralized, and partially proprietary. And
>         it has
>         great alternatives like Gitorious and Gitlab, which don't
>         suffer from
>         these problems.
>         
>
>
> Having used both of these tools, they aren't anywhere near what GitHub
> does.
>
> Gitorious is slow, hard to navigate, and tends to spit out error
> messages when trying to load files from anything other than master.
> It's also impossible to view any binary file (icons, images) without
> downloading.
>
>
> GitLab is an attempt at emulating GitHub, but it feels like the
> standard "open-source clone of closed software" in that it's years
> behind and doesn't really have its own design or identity.
>
>  
>         >
>         > By releasing your code under a Free license such as the GPL,
>         you are
>         > allowing others to take your code, and essentially, do what
>         they want
>         > with it. Free licenses by design are made to allow this, and
>         if your app
>         > is part of the Gnome project, then Gnome are free to "do
>         what they want
>         > with it", in this case, to create a *read-only* mirror on
>         GitHub in the
>         > intrest of convenience.
>         
>         
>         Software freedom is more important for me than convenience. If
>         you're
>         interested in convenience you can use MS Windows, Dropbox,
>         Facebook,
>         Skype and Github. Stop developing Gnome and just watch TV all
>         day.
>         That's convenience.
>         
>         I feel that some decisions taken in the name of Gnome don't
>         consider
>         software freedom. That's not fair, especially because many
>         people here
>         are volunteers, and some of them volunteer in the name of
>         software
>         freedom, not convenience or profit.
>         
>
>
> I'm curious how this is different than somebody taking your code
> repository and putting a personal fork of it on GitHub. Is it because
> GNOME's mirrors are called "official", and that you feel that having a
> presence on any proprietary infrastructure feels detrimental to
> GNOME's philosophy and mission?
>
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>   Jasper