Regarding behaviour of Gnome and Fedora members
- From: Ty Young <youngty1997 gmail com>
- To: desktop-devel-list gnome org
- Cc: devel lists fedoraproject org, users lists fedoraproject org
- Subject: Regarding behaviour of Gnome and Fedora members
- Date: Fri, 12 Jun 2020 05:50:59 -0500
Hi all,
Gnome recently has stirred up controversy lately and aren't taking other
people's opinions very well, to say the least. So far they've locked
three threads:
https://www.reddit.com/r/gnome/comments/gz6fks/we_must_all_speak_up/
https://www.reddit.com/r/gnome/comments/h107as/i_agree_with_the_we_all_must_speak_up_and_the/
https://www.reddit.com/r/gnome/comments/h0ml37/distrotube_has_posted_a_disgusting_video_calling/
They have engaged in racism and censorship in their subreddit's comment
sections and, just recently, banned me for posting this article, which
I've made:
https://medium.com/@youngty1997/gnome-needs-to-be-better-2151965fd663
You may read it for yourself. In it I cite violations of Gnome's Code of
Conduct by members of the GNOME foundation or the GNOME
foundation(gnome.org email address), both on their subreddit and from
fedora-devel list. I tried to cite as much as possible but Gnome
moderators refused to hand over the moderation logs for when they locked
a thread for reporting a bug when asked. I'm confident that they know
what I'm talking about but just refuse to hand it over.
Keep in mind that, in Gnome's subreddit rules, it's perfectly OK to
criticize GNOME in GNOME's subreddit. It's even in the sidebar, which
you cannot see on old reddit(something I've told them about multiple
times, but they've ignored repeatedly to fix):
"We do not shy away from criticism, in fact, we encourage it!"
GNOME members have recently said that "This mixing of ideas from a wide
range of backgrounds is something that has improved free and open source
software, and it should be highly valued."
However, their actions by locking threads and now banned me for sharing
an article I had made goes against this statement. To be crystal clear
here, the opinions shared in the article are not *just* my own. You may
also read people who agree with my opinions in comment sections of the
GNOME subreddit and Fedora subreddit which I shared it to:
https://www.reddit.com/r/Fedora/comments/h7de62/gnome_needs_to_be_better/
https://www.reddit.com/r/gnome/comments/h7ddom/gnome_needs_to_be_better/
Gnome did not say that any new threads on the topic could be made nor
was there any rule breakage that I could find. I would have loved to
cite more things but alas, I don't have access to the information.
Sadly the moderators of each respective subreddits have censored the
threads, and not even snew shows them for some reason. I've tried
contacting the fedora subreddit moderators but I have a feeling they
won't ever answer.
I was planning on fileing a Code of Conduct violation, but GNOME refused
to turn over the requested moderation logs, so I couldn't do so and,
Gnome's Code of Conduct hints as what the result will be anyway. I have
zero confidence that anything will be done, so here I am sending an email.
So, could anything be done about any of this?
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