Re: [Epiphany] Popups blocking
- From: Seth Nickell <snickell stanford edu>
- To: Marco Pesenti Gritti <marco it gnome org>
- Cc: epiphany mozdev org
- Subject: Re: [Epiphany] Popups blocking
- Date: 30 Dec 2002 23:17:10 -0800
As a default setting its potentially hazardous to the user to block
popups. I don't really know how often they are used for legitimate
things, but I do know of some important cases where you couldn't use a
service without allowing popups (e.g. where they ask you to select media
format or something for videos). On the other hand, *most* popups are
annoying to the user. So a good solution would make popups less annoying
while still presenting them in case they are important.
I suggest that what makes popups annoying is not that they take up space
(which they do, but we tolerate in-page advertisement much better) but
that they force us to close them (either before we read the content or
after, both are annoying). A halfway step between allowing popups and
blocking them would be to present them in a way such that they didn't
have to be closed.
<random ideas....>
Is it possible to somehow close popups when the window they are
associated with closes? Or something like that? Just talking out of my
arse here ;-)
Another idea would be to have a "Popup Navigator" that contains little
thumbnailed snapshots of popup windows which can be "activated" by
clicking on them. If it were a little button or something activatable in
the status bar, it could possibly flash once when a new popup appeared.
Dunno. Anyway, just some random ideas.
-Seth
On Mon, 2002-12-30 at 06:48, Marco Pesenti Gritti wrote:
> I would like to introduce some sort of popup blocking method but I'm
> unsure which one.
>
> I think galeon way to do it is not good. You block everything, also
> popups that may be useful.
>
> Phoenix does a better work I think. When a popup is blocked you can
> access a list and allow the host to show it.
> I see some problems with this approach too, though.
>
> - Apparently once you allowed a site to show popups you cant block it
> anymore.
> - Would a newbie easily understand how to unblock popups ? Otherwise I
> think we would have a prob since some pages needs popups to be
> "functional" ...
> Epiphany show a dialog with an explanation the first time but I'm not
> sure if it's enough.
> - I cant find a way to access the blocked popups list other than the
> statusbar icon. I guess that's at least an accessibility problem. Would
> a menu item do it ?
>
> I'd like to hear opinion about this. I plan to implement it only if we
> find a solution good enough to enable it by default.
>
> Marco
>
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