[Epiphany] Musings on Bookmarks from an Armchair Developer
- From: Steve McKay <steve colgreen com>
- To: epiphany mozdev org
- Subject: [Epiphany] Musings on Bookmarks from an Armchair Developer
- Date: Sun, 19 Oct 2003 12:21:39 -0700
...and a new Epiphany user.
Looking at Epiphany's 1.2 plan I'd have to guess that bookmark system
has caught a lot of flack. Despite my own early reservations, I now like
the system. I believe it yields a more useful view on my booksmarks
than did the previous hierarchical system I used. Maybe the reason that
Epiphany's bookmark handing generates such heat from users is that the
system is not radically different enough from the old hierarchical system.
My ugly past...
When using other browsers' folder based bookmarking systems I'd collect
a large amount of bookmarks, then add a couple of "favorites" folders to
my browser toolbar, leaving the non-favorites to collect dust. I still
*want* all those other bookmarks, just like I want my browsing history,
but I almost never use them.
Do it like Rhythmbox, you already are...
Maybe a next-gen bookmark system would look more like a set of views on
a single database of visited sites (history), and manually added entries
(bookmarks), all with and comments and other meta information attached
to those records.
Rhythmbox is a great example of how presenting things (oggs and mp3s)
based on queries against harvested meta information (id3 tags) can yield
dramatically improved accessability/usability over traditional folder or
list based browsing mechanisms.
In Epiphany's case "Topics" are a piece of meta information that is
manually selected at the time a bookmark is added. The title and URL are
pieces of meta information that is collected automatically when a
history item is added. Other information that could be collected is the
path followed between sites, and the date and time of day a site was
visited, number of visits to a site, and so on.
I'm not sure how to best expose views on this data. Afterall, the entire
Rhythmbox interface is dedicated to browsing the entries. I would still
want to add my favorites folders to my bookmarks toolbar. So, maybe a
stored query could represent a folder, and the bookmarks toolbar become
effectively the Query results toolbar.
Queries would be something to the effect...
SELECT * FROM Bookmarks WHERE Topic="Gnome" ORDER BY visit_count LIMIT (10)
or we could get something like this
<http://mozdev.org/pipermail/epiphany/2003-August/000093.html> by
stacking queries or grouping by some other piece of meta information.
Of course this type of query could be easily formulated by a small, user
friendly dialog box. Or users could just accept a default "favorites"
menu item that reflects their most frequently/recently visited items
automatically...no user intervention required, no bookmarks to add at all.
I could gush on, but I shan't.
Keep up the good work Marco and gang, and thanks for a nice clean browser!
--
Steve McKay <steve@colgreen.com>
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