A little apology and discussion (Re: How to get the orbs of SameGnome back?)

[Vesa Paatero <vpaatero lavabit com>]

Dear Jason et al,

I apologize that I entered this list with such a negative tone to begin 
with. It was fed by frustration... as my software had changed for the 
worse, as I felt it, and I couldn't see a way to revert it ... plus 
there was an earlier case regarding gnome-terminal where some people's 
desire for fewer options, in the name of "elegancy" or whatever, limited 
other users' freedom of choice.

You who compile programs yourself don't so easily come to grips with the 
problem that manifests with distros like Ubuntu where you can choose 
when you upgrade your system but the whose system gets upgraded and you 
cannot really control or prevent a particular program from getting 
upgraded - sometimes the change being for the worse (from the particular 
user's point of view, at least).
   Now that Gnome is the official primary user interface system of a 
widespread system like Ubuntu, these things are worthy of 
consideration.. In practice, this would suggest that as long as the name 
of a package remains the same, changes should be ones of evolution 
rather than revolution. Well, in the case of SameGnome and Swell Foop 
the name of the package did change but that was little use because the 
package of Swell Foop was unfortunately marked to exclude the 
installation of SameGnome. Thus, if they were to be installed 
simultaneously, either one had to be installed by inofficial means.


Best Regards,
   Vesa Paatero


PS. If anyone feels so inclined, I'd appreciate any hints regarding why 
high scores don't work in my installations of Swell Foop or SameGnome 
anymore.. It seems that the name of the high score file is constructed 
from some Gnome settings or some way that I couldn't easily decipher 
from the source code.


> Message: 1
> Date: Thu, 18 Nov 2010 23:30:45 +0200
> From: Vesa Paatero<vpaatero lavabit com>
> To: games-list gnome org
> Subject: Re: How to get the orbs of SameGnome back?
> Message-ID:<4CE59B05 7040006 lavabit com>
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> Hi,
>
> I wrote and Jason responded:
>    
> > >   I and our children were recently disappointed to find that the orbs of
> > >   SameGnome have been lost. Why on earth did you guys change the good-looking
> > >   orbs of SameGnome to the plain squares of Swell Foop, without any option to
> > >   use "legacy graphics" or anything?
> > >
> > >
> > >        
> >   They were neither good looking nor scalable. The new engine has animation
> >   and the old one did not. By any objective measure, the new version is an
> >   improvement.
> >
> >      
>
> Come on, that's not really true. For example, the new script-based
> system is slower: When you gather a large contiguous area of the
> same color in Swell Foop and click to remove it, you
> notice an extra delay... how clear it is, depends on your computer.
>
> Mark wrote:
>    
> >   Does Swell Foop use customizable /replaceable SVGs for its images? (all GNOME games really should)
> >   If so, couldn't someone remake the orbs "good looking" and in scalable SVG?
> >
> >      
>
> Thanks for suggesting. As to my case, I managed to install the game
> by ripping apart the .deb package of an older version.
>
> The high scores, however, no longer work in either game.
> For Swell Foop, I can find the score files in /var/games and
> see their reasonable contents, but the game won't show them.
> (it is v1.0).
>
> Vesa
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