Re: [Gimp-gui] Splash screen + default export file type

[Jehan <jehan girinstud io>]

Hi!

On 2017-12-20 14:19, marty wrote:
> On 12/20/2017 07:05 AM, Jehan wrote:
>
> > Hi!
> >
> > On 2017-12-20 11:41, marty wrote:
> > > lol. I love open source development, but sometimes it is humorous the
> > > rabbit holes it goes down.  Of all the tweaks I'd like to see to GIMP
> > > gui, the splash screen is probably the last thing on the list that
> > > matters to me and completely unrelated to actually using GIMP.
> > >  First thing on my list?
> >
> > This is a public mailing list, which means that *anyone* can write 
> > *anything* here. If someone makes an email about the splash screen, it 
> > does not mean that it is the "first thing" on anyone's list (not even 
> > the poster as far as I know; one can make an email on something which 
> > is not own's higher priority!), and especially it does not mean that 
> > it is the first thing on developer's list. ;-)
> Understood, I just thought it was funny that there is hardly any
> traffic on this list other than about the gui splash lately.  It has
> been kind of quiet overall really.  Not complaining, just being light.

Yeah, actually not much can really happen for the time being, GUI wise, 
because GIMP 2.10 is just too close for us to really plan changes on 
short term.
People are still welcome to discuss GUI and UX topics here but they will 
be mostly theoretical (which is already nice and can pave the way for 
future actual improvements).

I expect/hope more traffic later, after GIMP 2.10 release. Also most 
discussions here are by definition long-term discussion (which have to 
be well-thought) because any update to the GUI cannot be just done as a 
simple "fix". You don't want to do, undo, redo interfaces and end up 
with half-done GUIs.

> > > Making the "export / export as" file type
> > > sticky to whatever one chose last, or some mechanism that allows some
> > > sense continuity of export file type during a workflow across several
> > > imported images.  At least a hot key to select previously used type.
> > > All the fiddly clicking with the mouse to select the same file type
> > > one selected 5 minutes ago is tedious.
> >
> > I think there is a bug report about this. It's not as simple as 
> > remembering the last export file type, since some other people don't 
> > want the last format to be remembered (for instance, you export 99% as 
> > JPEG, but just this one time, you need to export a TIFF. The next time 
> > you open an image, you will still want to see JPEG as default again 
> > and not TIFF).
> The way I pictured it, the "sticky" wouldn't be overrideable, it would
> just replace the .png which is the current default.  So for that one
> time one wanted something other than the sticky, one would simply do
> what we are already doing, select another.  So I hope that clarifies;
> I'm not talking about automatically selecting, just having the default
> for selection be sticky.

In my preferred workflow, I see 3 points:

(1) Being able to choose one own's default format (right now, it's just 
PNG).
(2) Having export format stick for a given XCF across sessions (right 
now it sticks only within current session).
(3) Being able to choose whether the export format stick across images 
(right now if I open an image and export it for the first time within 
this session, it will export to the previously exported format in the 
session).

I believe point (2) should just be saved in the XCF (to be more accurate 
previous export path should stick). And point (1) and (3) should be 
customizable in Preferences.

But that's matter to discuss since we don't agree. ;-)
Also note that my workflow also allows yours. If (1)/(3) are implemented 
as a single settings "Default export format" which is a list of all 
available image formats with the additional "Last exported format".

> > But you are definitely right that this can be improved (as many 
> > things!). Maybe this could be a preference settings where you can 
> > choose your default export format (among the whole list of formats or 
> > set as "last export format").
> >
> > I guess I should look into this.
> Ok, I just sent $25 to gimp.gnome.org (my paypal email is diff from
> one I'm sending from, but it is still 'marty@...').  That is all I can
> really afford right now, but Merry Christmas and thanks for all the
> hard work.  I understand that doing little feature streamlining stuff
> isn't as interesting as big new functionality, but for the person
> working daily with GIMP the little things make a big diff.

I don't have access to the financial, so I can't check if that came in 
without issue.
Anyway thanks on behalf of GIMP project. :-)

Jehan

> Rgds,
> Marty

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