[Glade-users] [Glade-devel] Making property editor as big as posible!

[tristan.van.berkom at gmail.com (Tristan Van Berkom)]

On Mon, Mar 11, 2013 at 9:58 PM, Igor Chetverovod <chetverovod at gmail.com> wrote:
> Hi Tristan,
> About a bit another thing:)
>
> I think it  would be great  if property editor could have possibility
> to add new properties to the widget and GObject  functions
> g_object_set_data () / g_object_get_data () could be used for access
> to those properties.

Yes, we've discussed that more than once before, the possibility of
setting qdata on a GObject.

I'm not completely convinced that using qdata is the best programming
paradigm, but in any case it requires some GtkBuilder features before
we can really discuss adding such a thing to Glade.

Any qdata parsing from GtkBuilder files should also be typed
(probably only allowing for fundamental types to be parsable).

I.e. parsing the value "GtkButton" as a "string" type would make
a string "GtkButton" be allocated and tied to the GObject's
life cycle, parsing it as a "GType" would have different results.

Again, I think there are other directions to take to make Glade
and GtkBuilder more usable, without encouraging programmers
to hack with GObject qdata.

Cheers,
       -Tristan

> Igor
>
> 2013/3/9, Tristan Van Berkom <tristan.van.berkom at gmail.com>:
> > On Sat, Mar 9, 2013 at 8:13 PM, Johannes Schmid <jhs at jsschmid.de> wrote:
> > > Hi Juan!
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > > https://blogs.gnome.org/xjuan/files/2013/03/glade_new_layout.png
> > >
> > > Overall it looks better to me (I don't really know what the clean button
> > > is for, maybe we can just remove it from such a prominent place). I
> > > would consider to replace the switch buttons with a toggle button that
> > > doesn't have "on/off" but just the name of the property to save more
> > > space.
> > >
> > > I still favor some kind of GtkTreeView thing like done in Visual Basic
> > > for example but it seems the current GtkTreeView is too limited for that
> > > approach.
> >
> > Hi,
> >   Just reiterating what I've said many times before,
> > the reason I don't want to go in the direction of GtkTreeView, is
> > that it treats widget properties like rows of data, this approach
> > limits our capability of providing more user friendly editors.
> >
> > I would rather go in a direction where property editors see
> > more per-widget type customization (i.e. a GtkLabel editor
> > is different than a GtkButton editor), this let's us organize
> > the view in a more human friendly way.
> >
> > I know, most of Glade's property editors don't leverage
> > the custom editor approach enough yet to justify this
> > approach (most of Glade's editors still look like a dumb
> > list of properties), but I think it's the right direction to
> > take in general, so I don't want to frame us into a corner
> > where editor customization becomes impossible.
> >
> > Perhaps with the new dogfooding that we've been
> > doing this will be more easily achieved (i.e. Glades
> > main UI is made with Glade, hopefully the individual
> > property editors soon can also be made with Glade).
> >
> > Cheers,
> >            -Tristan
> >
> > PS: For a basic example of what I ultimately want,
> > I know it sucks to refer to OSX tooling /again/ but
> > here's a screen shot from Interface Builder:
> >
> > http://disanji.net/iOS_Doc/referencelibrary/GettingStarted/URL_Tools_for_iPhone_OS_Development/Art/interface_builder.jpg
> >
> > Notice the property editor on the right hand side,
> > the amount of properties exposed to the user are
> > limited to configuring "things that matter", and
> > there is some interesting grouping of properties
> > going on... this kind of custom layouting is what
> > I really want to see more of in Glade, while the
> > core allows for this customization, it just hasn't
> > been leveraged enough yet to really look great.
> >
> > > Regards,
> > > Johannes
> > >
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