Re: Gnopernicus Error
- From: Janina Sajka <janina afb net>
- To: Peter Korn <peter korn sun com>
- Cc: gnome-accessibility-list gnome org
- Subject: Re: Gnopernicus Error
- Date: Fri, 18 Apr 2003 22:06:14 -0400
Thanks, Peter.
I used the script to change the condition to 'true.' However, there's seems little else going on other than Gnopernicus. Is it possible the default Red Hat
installation, or whatever I may have mucked up since then, has some other Window manager working? I'd think that highly likely.
So, maybe a more generic question might be how to force the use of GNOME, and only GNOME.
Also, it's clear to me that I'm starting X in a most inefficient manner, first running startx from one console, then export DISPLAY=:0 followed by gnopernicus from
another console. Highly inefficient at best, I'm sure, but setting my default boot to graphical (Red Hat's runlevel 5) gave me grief when I tried to launch gnopernicus
from a console, for some reason.
So, I expect I need also to read more general GNOME docs to learn these things, now that I have gnopernicus launching reliably (with DEC Talk software speech, by the
way--very nice).
Peter Korn writes:
> From: Peter Korn <peter korn sun com>
>
> Hi Janina,
>
> > Just checked out the and compiled--no problems there. When I launch, I
> > get the following error, though Gnopernicus does launch and talk:
> >
> > GTK Accessibility Module initialized
> > gnopernicus-Message: speech initialization succeded
> >
> > (srcore:24943): gnopernicus-WARNING **: Exception "Unknown CORBA
> > exception id: 'IDL:omg.org/CORBA/NO_IMPLEMENT:1.0'" occured at line 429.
>
> This warning does not indicate that something is broken. It is quite likely
> that your problem is that the accessibility machinery isn't turned on on a
> fresh install of the world (you mentioned elsewhere that you had done
> that). We're working on a GUI setting to turn this on (yah, lots of help to
> you!), but meanwhile you can do so from the command line by modifying the
> appropriate GConf setting. The attached script is a handy way to do this -
> just run it from the command line to determine what the setting is set to or
> to set it.
>
> > One more thing ...
> >
> > Now what? I forgot how we go to the "Start Menu." Was that Shift+Alt+TAB
> > that we learned at the CSUN hands on? Guess not, or mine is broke! <grin>
> >
> > Kind of boring just listening to Gnopernicus configurations!
>
> The GNOME 2.2 Accessibility guide has all this, at:
> http://www.gnome.org/learn/access-guide/2.2/gnome-access-guide.html
>
> And specifically the keyboard shortcuts section, at:
> http://www.gnome.org/learn/access-guide/2.2/gnome-access-guide.html#keynav-0
>
> Use Ctrl-Alt-Tab to cycle between the various gnome panels (like the menu
> bar panel) and the desktop. Once on the menu panel, F10 will bring up the
> first menu (in this case the Applications menu, which is the moral
> equivalent of the "Start menu").
>
>
> Regards,
>
> Peter
>
>
> > Bill Haneman writes:
> > > From: Bill Haneman <bill haneman sun com>
> > >
> > > John:
> > >
> > > You can try checking out the "jhbuild" package from GNOME cvs to help
> > > you build the whole stack. After making and installing jhbuild you will
> > > need to edit ".jhbuildrc" in your home directory.
> > >
> > > At the moment the most up-to-date and functional accessibility is from
> > > HEAD, which is what you get from the jhbuild "gnome24" moduleset, but
> > > there are occasional day-to-day build problems with that stack. So
> > > perhaps we should create a "gnomeAccessibilityAlpha" moduleset or
> > > something similar, which pulls the stable gnome-2.2 modules wherever
> > > possible and only pulls "latest-and-greatest" for accessibility
> > > modules. Once you've built the "default" target packages from jhbuild
> > > you would build the "meta-gnome-accessibility" package, and you should
> > > be done.
> > >
> > > I can edit such a moduleset but I would need a volunteer to try it out
> > > (my machines are too full to support yet another full build), any
> > > takers?
> > >
> > > regards,
> > >
> > > Bill
> > >
> > > On Tue, 2003-04-15 at 23:29, John covici wrote:
> > > > OK, so which packages do I need to rebuild and do I get them from the
> > > > regular cvs gnome site? I would really like to build gnome
> > > > completely with the correct packages -- now I have Debian 2.2 and 5
> > > > or 6 packages from cvs.
> > > >
> > > > on Tuesday 04/15/2003 Marc Mulcahy(marc mulcahy sun com) wrote
> > > > > Hi John,
> > > > >
> > > > > OK, well, here you go down the slippery slope of rebuilding things. These
> > > > > look like outdated Nautilus/Gail packages.
> > > > >
> > > > > Marc
> > > > >
> > > > > At 04:06 AM 4/15/2003 -0400, John covici wrote:
> > > > > >Well, the warning about libgail-gnome went away when I check it
> > > > > >out -- with its correct spelling, but now I get the following:
> > > > > >
> > > > > >(gnome-panel:28597): GLib-GObject-WARNING **: invalid cast from
> > > > > >`SpiAccessible' to `BonoboControlAccessible'
> > > > > >
> > > > > >(nautilus:28600): GLib-GObject-WARNING **: invalid cast from
> > > > > >`FMIconContainer' to `GnomeCanvas'
> > > > > >
> > > > > >(nautilus:28600): Gtk-CRITICAL **: file gtktextbuffer.c: line 496
> > > > > >(gtk_text_buffer_set_text): assertion `text != NULL' failed
> > > > > >
> > > > > >Also, since I do have the Dec talk hardware, can I use that instead
> > > > > >of festival and if so, how do I change the synth I am using?
> > > > > >I think we are getting there, but we do have those annoying xml files
> > > > > >which its hard to figure out what they do.
> > > > > >
> > > > > >on Monday 04/14/2003 Marc Mulcahy(marc mulcahy sun com) wrote
> > > > > > > John,
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Also, if you have an environment in which you can build GNOME modules,
> > > > > > you
> > > > > > > might try just checking out libgail-gnome and seeing how you get
> > > > > > > along. libgail-gnome is needed to make the panel and many other GNOME
> > > > > > apps
> > > > > > > accessible.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > marc
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > At 03:51 PM 4/14/2003 -0400, John covici wrote:
> > > > > > > >Well, it said the word panel, possibly an improvement, but its
> > > > > > > >looking for libgale-gnome which seems not to be there.
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > >I may try some other apps and see if it says anything.
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > >But so far no luck, although I did hear restore window once, so it
> > > > > > > >looks like something is happening.
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > >What I think I need to do is get the whole gnome environment from cvs
> > > > > > > >rather than trying to use the Debian gnome 2.2 environment -- what
> > > > > > > >would be the best way to do that?
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > >on Monday 04/14/2003 Peter Korn(peter korn sun com) wrote
> > > > > > > > > Hi John,
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > Hi. After getting cvs versions of gnopernicus, atk at-spi and of
> > > > > > > > > > course the famous gtk-doc, I cannot get gnopernicus to say anything
> > > > > > > > > > after the welcome message -- I can run gnome-panel, and nothing
> > > > > > > > > > happens hotting tab, alt, arrow keys and I get nothing. It always
> > > > > > > > > > says welcome to gnopernicus, so its running and the message says
> > > > > > > > > > speech initialization successful on the text console, but
> > > > > > that's all
> > > > > > > > > > I get.
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > Well, what do I do from here?
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > The accessibility machinery needs to be turned on for Gnopenricus
> > > > > > to read
> > > > > > > > > the contents of applications. The attached script is nice to use to
> > > > > > > > modify
> > > > > > > > > the GConf setting to make this happen. Re-start your gnome
> > > > > > session after
> > > > > > > > > you run this script.
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > Peter#!/bin/sh
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > if test $# -eq 0
> > > > > > > > > then gconftool-2 -g /desktop/gnome/interface/accessibility
> > > > > > > > > fi
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > if test $# -eq 1
> > > > > > > > > then if test $1 = on -o $1 = true
> > > > > > > > > then gconftool-2 -s
> > > > > > /desktop/gnome/interface/accessibility \
> > > > > > > > > -t bool true
> > > > > > > > > elif test $1 = off -o $1 = false
> > > > > > > > > then gconftool-2 -s
> > > > > > /desktop/gnome/interface/accessibility \
> > > > > > > > > -t bool false
> > > > > > > > > else echo gnome-accessibility: unknown command $1
> > > > > > > > > fi
> > > > > > > > > fi
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > >--
> > > > > > > > John Covici
> > > > > > > > covici ccs covici com
> > > > > > > >_______________________________________________
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> > > > > >
> > > > > >--
> > > > > > John Covici
> > > > > > covici ccs covici com
> > > > > >_______________________________________________
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> > > >
> > > > --
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> > > > covici ccs covici com
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> > --
> >
> > Janina Sajka, Director
> > Technology Research and Development
> > Governmental Relations Group
> > American Foundation for the Blind (AFB)
> >
> > Email: janina afb net Phone: (202) 408-8175
> #!/bin/sh
>
> if test $# -eq 0
> then gconftool-2 -g /desktop/gnome/interface/accessibility
> fi
>
> if test $# -eq 1
> then if test $1 = on -o $1 = true
> then gconftool-2 -s /desktop/gnome/interface/accessibility \
> -t bool true
> elif test $1 = off -o $1 = false
> then gconftool-2 -s /desktop/gnome/interface/accessibility \
> -t bool false
> else echo gnome-accessibility: unknown command $1
> fi
> fi
--
Janina Sajka, Director
Technology Research and Development
Governmental Relations Group
American Foundation for the Blind (AFB)
Email: janina afb net Phone: (202) 408-8175
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