Re: Now Getting Braille Output From Gnopernicus

["John J. Boyer" <director chpi org>]

Bill,


On 13 May 2003, Bill Haneman wrote:

> John:
> 
> After setting the gconf key you will need to log out and back in again.
> 
> Apologies for omitting this important piece of information !

Well, that just points up the need for a comprehensive document. however, 
after I did that there is still no change in the braille display and the 
message about Gnopernicus using an idle callback is still appearing when I 
move the mouse. This time my mousing and keyboarding activated gnome-htlp, 
so that part is working at least. i know this because it complained about 
losing it's connection to the display  when I did control-c.

John
 > > - Bill > 
> On Tue, 2003-05-13 at 16:45, John J. Boyer wrote: > > Bill,
> > 
> > 
> > On 13 May 2003, Bill Haneman wrote:
> > 
> > > John:
> > > 
> > > I am wondering if you have turned on the "accessibility" support gconf
> > > key or not.  You may have missed that step, it's been mentioned a few
> > > times on the list.  
> > Yes. I missed that step, and I do remember that it has been mentioned 
> > before.
> > 
> > <I think we need to somehow concatenate all this
> > > information together once again, a number of people have written short
> > > HowTo documents but nothing quite brings all the information together
> > > yet.
> > Definitely we need an up-to-date howto. I would offer to write it, but I 
> > have to wait until I know what I am doing.
> > 
> > > 
> > > Before accessibility will work across the desktop, you need to check
> > > this gconf key:
> > I set the gconf key as you instruct below. However, the behavior of 
> > Gnopernicus is unchanged, even though gconftool-2 --get now shows that the 
> > key is true. When I move the mouse i get the following message on the 
> > screen, but not the braille display:
> > 
> > gnopernicus will use a "idle" callback and will NOT force sometimes it 
> > call
> > 
> > This message can be read with brltty when I switch to another virtual 
> > console and then back. The GUI is no longer in operation after this 
> > switch. Is there a way to restore it?
> > 
> > Thanks,
> > John
> > 
> > 
> >  > 
> > > gconftool-2 --get 
> > /apps/desktop/gnome/interface/accessibility > 
> > > if it's "false", set it to true:
> > > 
> > > gconftool-2 --type bool --set
> > > /apps/desktop/gnome/interface/accessibility true
> > > 
> > > (all one line, my emailer is word-wrapping this command).
> > > 
> > > 
> > > I hope that this will work for you.  If not, then we need to do some
> > > more diagnostics on gnopernicus (you can kill gnopernicus and srcore,
> > > and any gnome-speech drivers, from a console and then run gnopernicus
> > > manually after GNOME has started, perhaps you will see some useful error
> > > messages).
> > > 
> > > I am glad to be of help, thanks for your part in trailblazing!
> > > 
> > > - Bill
> > > 
> > > 
> > > On Tue, 2003-05-13 at 15:18, John J. Boyer wrote:
> > > > Bill,
> > > > 
> > > > The session-manual file that you gave works great. There is now no call to 
> > > > gnopernicus or srcore in my .xinit file. When i type startx there is a 
> > > > delay of about a minute, then the message "Welcome to Gnopern" appears on 
> > > > my braille display. I had a sighted colleague check the screen. gnome is 
> > > > up. The mouse works. However, the Braille display never changes, no matter 
> > > > what is done with the mouse, the keyboard or the front-panel keys on the 
> > > > display itself.
> > > > 
> > > > I am thrilled to be able to contribute to the development of this screen 
> > > > reader even as a tester, and maybe i can make some code contributions in 
> > > > the future.
> > > > 
> > > > John
> > > > 
> > > >  On 13 May 2003, Bill Haneman wrote:
> > > > 
> > > > > John:  
> > > > > 
> > > > > As Christopher said, you should not start gnopernicus before starting
> > > > > GNOME (i.e. gnome-session).
> > > > > 
> > > > > As far as I know, your ~/.xinitrc file need only contain one line,
> > > > > 
> > > > > "exec gnome-session"
> > > > > 
> > > > > in order to start GNOME.  I do not know whether an immediate invocation
> > > > > of "exec gnopernicus" afterwards would cause a race condition or not;
> > > > > perhaps a 'sleep' in between would be advisable.  The "gnome-session"
> > > > > call won't return until you quit GNOME, which is why it needs to be
> > > > > "exec"'ed instead of just placed in the script.
> > > > > 
> > > > > There's a GUI in gnome for adding startup programs.  Unfortunately there
> > > > > isn't a proper command-line or script version of this (yet).  But you
> > > > > can manually edit the session file:
> > > > > 
> > > > > 1) create directory ~/.gnome2 if it doesn't exist yet
> > > > > 2) create file ~/.gnome2/session-manual
> > > > > 3) contents of session-manual file:
> > > > > 
> > > > > <blank line>
> > > > > [Default]
> > > > > num_clients=1
> > > > > 0,RestartStyleHint=3
> > > > > 0,Priority=60
> > > > > 0,RestartCommand=gnopernicus
> > > > > 
> > > > > 
> > > > > 
> > > > > I hope that helps.
> > > > > 
> > > > > Bill
> > > > > 
> > > > > > Hello,
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > Well, at least I am getting something on my Alva 320 display. When I start 
> > > > > > Gnome and Gnopernicus the displaly shows "Welcome to Gnopern". Pressing 
> > > > > > the keys on the front panel of the 320 has no effict. Brltty continues to 
> > > > > > work with the Braille Lite 40 in port 1. I can read on the screen that 
> > > > > > that Braille initialization was successful. 
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > In my .xinitrc file I have srcore -p2 just before      exec 
> > > > > > $GARNOME/bin/gnome-session . When I tried replacing "srcore -p2: with just 
> > > > > > "gnopernicus" it appeared to crash the system. I had to reboot - for the 
> > > > > > first time in two months. Moreover, I had to press reset to do it.
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > I hope these results will help with debugging. They are encouraging, and 
> > > > > > I'm ready to do further testing as soon as I or someone figures out the 
> > > > > > next step.
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > John
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > 
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