Re: gnopernicus

[Bill Haneman <bill haneman sun com>]

Hi everybody:

remember, "it's not a product.... yet".

Also some of the problems/silences Deedra is seeing sound like the
speech issues that have been discussed at length on this list already;
there are bugs that can cause large amounts of gnopernicus' speech not
to be emitted.

As Thomas says, a lot (most!) of the programs that are shipped with
"GNOME 2" distributions are actually either GNOME-1.4 or not GNOME at
all, or are missing pieces of the connection to the accessibility
framework.  There is no way that the GNOME-1.4 stuff can be accessible
with gnopernicus, nor the KDE applications (until/unless the KDE
toolkits are bridged to AT-SPI).  Likewise the GNOME-2-compatible
versions of Mozilla are not yet released, so all of this is very much a
work in progress.

I am glad you are hearing good things Deedra - I just hope that they
aren't obscuring the fact that we aren't making product-quality claims
for GNOME accessibility just yet!

- Bill

> what I'm mainly seeing is this. it doesn't announce the name of the
> program that's starting, and take mozilla again for example, when I take
> it to a webpage such as www.debian.org, or www.dmwaters.us, it does not
> read the page, it acts like the page is blank.
> 
> it does the same with the gnome terminal, I haven't tried it in editors,
> and I'm unsure of wether I should try conciddering what I'm seeing so
> far.  I understand that it's still experimental, but from what I've
> heard so far it's supposed to be decently useable.
> 
> On Fri, 30 May 2003,
> Thomas D. Ward wrote:
> 
> > Hi, which arrow keys are you trying to use? Remember the numpad is really
> > only for the mouse, not for working in say the gedit text editor.
> > If you want to move by words use the arrow keys on the upside down t such as
> > control+right arrow and control+left arrow. Reading by line use the up and
> > down arrow keys.
> > As for telling Mozilla what site you want I believe the command is ctrl+l
> > type the address, and enter.
> > Hth.
> >
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: Deedra Waters <dmwaters linuxpowered com>
> > To: <speakup braille uwo ca>
> > Sent: Thursday, May 29, 2003 11:58 PM
> > Subject: gnopernicus
> >
> >
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> > > I've spent most of the afternoon playing with gnopernicus, and so far i
> > > find it very inaccessible.
> > >
> > > You can't read things line by line or word by word, and  I get the
> > > impression that stuff is just scattered across the screen, and you can't
> > > land on anything you want to.
> > >
> > > I saw someone say that it works with different gtk programs to an extent,
> > > but so far I'm seeing the exact opposit, take mozilla for example, it
> > > doesn't read pages as they come up and you can't even really choose to put
> > > in an address and let it take you there, or so it seems.
> > >
> > > If anyone has any ideas on how to make this more useable I'd appreciate
> > > it. I do have the gnome accessibility stuff turned on, but that doesn't
> > > seem to help much accept to make it talk.
> > >
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