Re: Gnopernicus under 2.8, and thoughts

[Kenny Hitt <kenny hittsjunk net>]

Hi.  I forgot one really important thing.  Don''t forget to use the -u
option when you do a dist-upgrade.  Make sure you don't have important
packages getting removed.  Also, don't forget apt-get update before you
try the dist-upgrade.  Remember, you are running unstable.  If you don't
pay attention, you can sometimes break things.

          Kenny

On Sun, Nov 21, 2004 at 11:16:18PM -0600, Nolan J. Darilek wrote:
> Once again I'm playing with the GNOME accessibility software, and I'm
> having issues. Today I snagged lots of GNOME 2.8 from Debian
> unstable. I didn't do a dist-upgrade, so it's possible that there are
> bits of 2.6 lingering, but if there are then I'm not aware of
> them. I'm having major issues reviewing the screen,
> though. Specifically, flat review mode might work, or it might
> not. Sometimes I can enter flat review mode and review a portion of
> the screen, then gnopernicus switches to focus-tracking mode without
> my having asked it to do so. Sometimes I can't enter review mode
> because Gnopernicus instantly switches back to focus-tracking. It's
> the same in layer 0. I'll hit a boundary, moving too high or too far
> to the right and,, instead of announcing "no next," gnopernicus
> instantly moves the review focus back to where I began.
> 
> I'm not sure if this is a bug, or if it's due to an outdated
> library. Again, I'm running GNOME 2.8. Gnopernicus is a CVS checkout
> as of this morning, though I've also experienced this issue with
> 0.84. I also have the latest CVS checkout of at-spi, as login-helper
> isn't included in the version packaged with Debian.
> 
> Is this a gnopernicus bug, or is it likely caused by having an older
> version of some library which I'm not aware of not having upgraded?
> 
> Also, I have a question about the future of GNOME accessibility and
> Gnopernicus. I was off-list for a few months and, upon browsing
> through recent archives, noticed discussion about Gnopernicus, Orca
> and scripting. Specifically, someone was asking if scripting would be
> included in Gnopernicus.
> 
> Out of curiosity, is this in Gnopernicus' future, or is Orca intended
> to become a fully-functional, competing screen reader? I was under the
> impression that Orca was intended as a test to explore how scripting
> accessibility might work in Python, but are there plans to make it
> more?
> 
> I think that scripted accessibility is an excellent idea and an
> important feature. I wonder, though, if final products should/will be
> scripting language agnostic, thus allowing me to script in Python,
> Ruby, Perl or whichever language I might choose?
> 
> Just some thoughts. I realize that the realization of these ideas is
> still far off, but I thought I'd ask and toss them out regardless.
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