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RE: gnopernicus concerns

Hi Cody,
No that should work if you have Gnome 2.x installed. If not you can try to get a sighted user to help you go to the top gnome panel, click System > Preferences > Accessibility Support and check the box that says "Enable Acccessibiltiy Support" and "Turn on Screen Reader" on login. Then log out and log back in. Checking that box is equivelant to running that command. This will only needed to be done once, and gnopernicus should be reading gnome data at every login. If you use the GDM login manager you can make that accessible with a short-cut key sequence. This is described in the Accessibility Guide. Hopefully you will have a working environment at that point.
I have found that using JAWS in Windows with the command window with telnet lets me get some stuff done, such as thiss task. It does require you to be comfortable with navigating the unix file structure and commands. 

Hope this helps.

God Bless,

Jason G.
Mathew 11:28-30




hi jay,
do I need to install the java access bridge in order for that command you emailed to work? 

cody



From: "Jason Grieves" <jasongrieves hotmail com>
To: gnome-accessibility-list gnome org
Subject: RE: gnopernicus concerns
Date: Sun, 27 Nov 2005 15:38:38 -0500

Hello,
I am afraid I have not used SuSE before, so someone on this list may be able to help you more. This guide got me started. http://www.gnome.org/learn/access-guide/2.10/ but I am afraid some of it is outdated. The Sun folks have shared they are working on a new one for 2.12, but the full screen magnification section needs some work.
I am afraid the IBM SVDK link has escaped me. The Linux version may not even be free or downloadable anymore. Bill has referenced the Java access bridge which can be found 
http://www.linuxfromscratch.org/blfs/view/stable/gnome/java-access-bridge.html
What you are doing is linking the java environment to a gnome bridge so gnopernicus can pick up on it. I have tested it on open office and it works well.
using the following command should turn on accessibility in gnome. I am not sure if the path has changed or not and do not have access to my gnome desktop for another week or so... 
"gconftool-2 -s /desktop/gnome/interface/accessibility -t bool true"
g-edit (had some problems saving with gnopernicus, as it did not read all elements for me), all of the menu's, gnome control panels worked, etc. I know most if not all default gnome desktop applications work with gnopernicus. Again, I do not know what extra applications SuSE throws in (yast for one) but exporting those modules should work for all other accessible GTK applications. Gaim has been mentioned a couple of times, the archive has a lot of great info. You can set your profile to export this variable on startup so you do not have to manually do it. 

http://mail.gnome.org/archives/gnome-accessibility-list/

Hope that helps.

God Bless,

Jason G.
Mathew 11:28-30




hi,
thanx for all the info. I have formatted with SuSE 9.3 Pro last night. Waht is the name of taht free ibm screen reader? Also, thanx for that export command. As far as open office goes, I have tried to open the word processor in gnome but gnopernicus doesn't like it, how did you get this to work. Also, how will I know whether or not I have to export the java or gtk or not. have you gotten it to work with yast, gnome control center, or the k3b burning software. Can you name some aps you have used in gnome you have used and know for sure work? Thanx a million and a half! 

Cody



From: "Jason Grieves" <jasongrieves hotmail com>
To: cody_hurst hotmail com, gnome-accessibility-list gnome org
Subject: RE: gnopernicus concerns
Date: Sun, 27 Nov 2005 12:51:26 -0500

Hello,

I will try to answer a few of your questions
1) I have gotten gnopernicus to speak with firefox, open-office, gnome desktop applications. I 2) some applications written in GTK require you export the gail and atk bridge this can be done via the command line type "export GTK_MODULES=gail:atk-bridge" 3)you will need to setup your java apps (aka open office) to either work with the java bridge or a native java screen reader (IBM has a free one I have used) 4) If you are using Ubuntu I build .deb packages for gnopernicus. Otherwise you will need to compile your own gonpernicus packages with a compiler. You will also require a little knowledge of building/making. If you post your distribution you may find someone who can build it for you. 

I hope this helps.

God Bless,

Jason G.
Mathew 11:28-30
sorry I hadn't posted a subject here is the message just in case anybody had trashed my email, my bad. 

hi listers,
I'd like a couple things,

1. a list of programs gnopernicus will work with.

2. What is the command to make gnopernicus work with gaim messenger?
3. If any programs require gnopernicus work by typing a command before launching the program, what is it?
4. If anybody has gnopernicus, the latest version, I would like it, and all its dependancies along with it. I believe the latest is 1.12.0 or something. This in itself would be a great help from anybody 

thanks
Cody

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