Re: Common AT config panel
- From: Brian Cameron <Brian Cameron Sun COM>
- To: Henrik <henrik ubuntu com>
- Cc: Ubuntu Accessibility Mailing List <ubuntu-accessibility lists ubuntu com>, kde-accessibility kde org, gnome-accessibility-list gnome org
- Subject: Re: Common AT config panel
- Date: Mon, 24 Apr 2006 13:30:17 -0700
Henrik:
I do not think that this completely solve the "how do I set
my accessibility preferences when I can't do anything until the
preferences are set up."
Perhaps a set of hotkeys are necessary to launch the different
accessibility tools so that a user always knows that they can hit
some magic key combination and GOK will start up in a basic dwell
mode. Perhaps not the fastest GOK settings to use, but enough to
allow the user to navigate through the rest of configuration.
It would be nice if these hotkeys could be defined to be as
consistent as possible across distros.
There are several new AT apps coming on line that need settings panels.
Please consider dasher. It is a great alternative keyboard that
some users with accessibility needs find useful.
From the user's perspective it would be preferable to have a single
interface for all the AT on the free desktop. The challenge of course is
that we are dealing with apps written in a variety of languages running
on different platforms using different config systems including dotconf,
gconf and a raw python file.
Perhaps a wrapper API could be written that will hide the details
of whether the KDE, gconf, or python interfaces are being used in the
background. Perhaps this specification needs to be fleshed out and
become that wrapper API?
http://freedesktop.org/wiki/Standards_2fconfig_2dspec
To start us off I've made a simple HTML mock-up of a common AT
configuration panel. The layout is loosely based on the new KDE control
center, where each category of settings is accessed via an icon.
Clicking on an icon presents the relevant settings, which can be
organised with further tabs. It's just a shell ATM simply intended to
convey the idea of how everything can be gathered together. It's just
raw HTML/CSS so it doesn't actually do anything. The next step would be
to write a python version that would generate the GUI in real time,
which then in turn could be linked to a back-end that would read, parse
and write the config files.
Some aspects of the desktop are good to be consistent across desktops.
Configuration management seems to be an obvious choice. I think doing
a GUI via HTML that could be shared across KDE and GNOME would help to
give end users a more consistent and less confusing configuration
experience. Considering how many users dislike or are incapable of
configuring things to work.
I think this is a great idea.
See mock-up: http://people.ubuntu.com/~henrik/at-conf/main.html
Tarball: http://people.ubuntu.com/~henrik/at-conf/at-conf.tar.gz
Screenshots: http://people.ubuntu.com/~henrik/at-conf/at-conf-firefox.png
http://people.ubuntu.com/~henrik/at-conf/at-conf-lynx.png
The HTML implementation has the advantage of being accessible on both
KDE and Gnome via any browser and even at the command line via lynx. If
the layout is designed with the right combination of HTML and CSS it can
be made to look visually rich and support several viewing modes, yet
still look completely clean in a text-based browser. It is also quite
easy to do layout and prototyping in HTML (IMO) so developers from KDE,
gnome and other projects can help shape the basic framework.
I don't claim that an HTML app can look as polished as a native app and
obviously not integrate as well. Fortunately, a language like python can
drive both Qt and GTK front-ends as well. To make this work one would
need to keep the back-end framework separate from the GUI so that GTK,
Qt and HTML front ends could each be written easily. (my point of
reference for this is the espresso installer on Ubuntu which was written
in this way and got a GTK front end first soon followed by a Qt one). It
may even be that some projects decide to write the GTK or the Qt version
before doing a browser-based one. That would be fine too, as long as the
broader landscape is kept in mind so that porting and integration can be
accommodated later.
So, is this realistic? Can we construct the Orca interface so that a)
the GUI and back-end are kept separate and b) so that it can run either
as a separate program or as an integrated part of a common config panel?
If so, we should be able to build a Speech Dispatcher interface using
the same principles, followed by KTTS and other ATs. The big winner will
be the end-user who will be able to access all these settings in one
tidy place, from Gnome, KDE, the command line or across a network.
I know that we have a range of other challenges such as how KDE apps are
eventually meant to communicate with AT-SPI and just the fact that the
different apps store the configuration in different formats. But I'm
trying to simply look at this from the users perspective, who doesn't
know about those technical details. It would seem that having a unified
config utility would be a great help for the user. It's also technically
speaking fairly low hanging fruit for us now because we are creating
many of these config interfaces from scratch anyway. I also think that
having a common gathering point at the front-end can help encourage more
collaboration in the future among AT developers and will make AT more
visible to the wider FOSS community.
- Henrik
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