Re: getting orca included in gnome 2.16
- From: Henrik Nilsen Omma <henrik ubuntu com>
- To: Orca screen reader developers <orca-list gnome org>
- Cc: blinux-list-bounces redhat com, FSG Accessibility <accessibility freestandards org>, ma-linux tux org, speakup braille uwo ca, gnome-accessibility-list gnome org
- Subject: Re: getting orca included in gnome 2.16
- Date: Sat, 10 Jun 2006 20:01:00 +0100
Janina Sajka wrote:
Mike Pedersen writes:
We have been informed, however, that there can be only one screen
reader/magnifier in the GNOME desktop.
That's a rather outrageous attitude. Who made that decision?
Are they also prepared to have only one web browser? ONly one media
player? ONly one word processor? Only one email client application?
I think you may have misinterpreted this slightly. The idea is that
there will only be one official screen reader in Gnome, as there indeed
is only one email client (Evolution), one browser (Epiphany), one office
suite (gnome office, using abiword and gnumeric). Distributions can, and
do, change these defaults and users can install a whole range of options.
In Ubuntu we include Firefox instead of Epiphany, OpenOffice instead of
Gnome Office, etc. I see no problems with that. Currently we have
Gnopernicus installed by default and Orca as an option. For our next
release we will likely change that so that Orca becomes the default and
Gnopernicus the option. We still package and support a wide range of
options beyond that though and we are actively working on several new
accessibility tools from scratch.
Frankly, it's an insult. This kind of grudging support for accessibility needs to be stopped right now. In fact, it's a stretch to even call it "support."
This may be true in some areas of the open source world still, that
accessibility is an afterthought, but we are working to improve that. An
important factor in becoming better at this is learning to collaborate
better and work together on common tools. Choice is good in principle,
but the price of fragmented effort can be high.
Finally, I think you are complaining the wrong audience here (various
accessibility lists). All these people are already on your side. If you
want to make this complaint it should go to the main developer lists of
gnome, redhat, ubuntu, etc. Though that said, I do actually think that
gnome is right in their policy on this.
Henrik Omma
Ubuntu Accessibility Coordinator
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