Re: gnome, orca and enterprise linux

[Willem van der Walt <wvdwalt csir co za>]

What you are saying Peter makes a lot of sense.
I just want to make sure of something which I have never tested.
The orca/gnome setup on a client machine will not read information 
redirected from another machine like the oracle server using the 
export DISPLAY=client.host.name:0.0 method.
Is this assumption correct?
TIA, Willem

On Tue, 8 Apr 2008, Peter Korn wrote:

> Hi Don,
> 
> > Hi all,
> >
> > I have posted much of this to the orca-list so my appologies for the cross-posting.
> >
> > My situation is that I am needing to run oracle enterprise linus 5.0.01 (a derrivative of rhel 5.0).
> > It coms with orca-1.0-2.fc6, and associated packages.
> >
> > All was fine when I installed the o/s. However, I wanted to make a couple of small changes like adding braille support, and adding the ttsynth speech synthesizer.
> >
> > ...  
> >
> > My desire is to get an environment stable enough to perform accessibility testing of Oracle JDeveloper and Oracle database management tools.  Oracle would prefer that I use enterprise linux rather than one of the more "accessible" flavors like ubuntu, fedora, or debian.
> >
> > Any suggestions would be appreciated.
> 
> Separate from any specific suggestions you may get as to the minimum set 
> of packages to update to make this all work, I'd like to share with you 
> a basic observation - one we've struggled with at Sun in our decisions 
> about when and how to fold things like Orca into our Solaris releases.
> 
> Accessibility improvements are happening at a *very* rapid pace, and 
> they are doing so in the latest GNOME releases, on the latest OS 
> releases (on top of the latest Linux kernels, latest Solaris builds).  
> Insisting on using the latest in accessibility on top of a slow-moving, 
> conservative "enterprise" edition is always going to be a huge pain, and 
> always going to involve hard-to-track-down bugs.
> 
> My strong recommendation is to test your apps for full accessibility 
> with the full support for the latest accessibility features on the 
> non-enterprise editions of UNIX variants - e.g. on Ubuntu or Fedora or 
> OpenSolaris (and perhaps best, a bit on all three).  Then go back and 
> make sure that the accessibility support (whatever it is) in the 
> "slow-moving and conservative" enterprise editions also work, so you 
> know you are supporting the less functional accessibility that is being 
> sold in the enterprise variants.  In that way, you will know that you 
> will work with what is supported today in the enterprise (with it's less 
> feature-full accessibility), as well as the latest in accessibility that 
> will become part of tomorrow's enterprise UNIX OS releases.
> 
> Perhaps this is an error on my part, but I frankly think an organization 
> is more likely to give a user with a disability a copy of 
> Ubuntu/Fedora/OpenSolaris rather than attempt to support some odd 
> mixture of old and new platform libraries in an edition of an 
> "enterprise" UNIX.  It'll be much less headache and hassle.  And of 
> course, for users who don't need the newer features (e.g .a user for 
> whom a large print theme is all they need for their vision impairment), 
> enterprise editions are largely there and can be used "directly, out of 
> the box".
> 
> 
> Regards,
> 
> Peter Korn
> Accessibility Architect,
> Sun Microsystems, Inc.
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